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Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators

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First post2016-06-27 23:15 -0500
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  Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-27 23:15 -0500
    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-28 14:12 -0400
      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-28 13:58 -0700
        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-06-28 19:42 -0400
          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 01:14 -0500
            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-28 23:45 -0700
          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 10:31 -0700
      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-29 14:48 -0400
    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-28 18:23 +0000
    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 14:15 -0500
      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-30 18:13 -0400
        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 20:40 -0500
          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 01:50 +0000
            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 21:20 -0500
              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 05:57 +0000
                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 11:22 -0500
                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 16:34 +0000
                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:19 -0500
                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 17:39 +0000
                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 13:02 -0500
                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 18:58 +0000
                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:23 -0500
                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:38 +0000
                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:10 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:32 +0000
                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:11 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 17:33 -0500
                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:05 -0500
                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 09:18 -0500
                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:10 -0500
                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:25 -0500
                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 17:44 +0000
                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:57 -0500
                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:03 +0000
                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:33 -0500
                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 14:41 -0500
                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:55 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:15 +0000
                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:19 -0500
                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:33 +0000
                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:02 -0500
                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 21:19 +0000
                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:47 -0500
                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:42 +0000
                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:11 -0500
                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:26 +0000
                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 19:41 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:04 +0000
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:27 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:35 +0000
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 09:16 -0500
                                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:41 +0000
                                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:52 -0500
                                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:38 +0000
                                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 20:12 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 15:37 -0500
                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 16:03 -0500
                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:34 -0500
                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:03 +0000
                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 17:23 -0500
                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:46 +0000
                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:19 -0500
                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:27 +0000
                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 19:43 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:05 +0000
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:32 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 09:23 -0500
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:08 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 11:53 -0500
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 12:26 -0500
                                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:43 +0000
                                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 13:45 -0500
                                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:49 -0500
                                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 22:57 -0500
                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 17:25 -0500
                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:01 -0500
                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:32 +0000
                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:03 -0500
                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:39 +0000
                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 09:35 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:54 +0000
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:03 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:43 +0000
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 19:58 -0500
                                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 01:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 23:20 -0500
                                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 06:00 +0000
                                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-03 09:45 -0500
                                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 17:04 +0000
                                              Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:44 -0500
                                                Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die; sick or not, Swiss or not. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 21:38 -0500
                                              Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-02 19:00 -0400
                                                Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 23:24 +0000
                                                Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 16:36 -0700
                                                  Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-02 19:59 -0400
                                                    Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 17:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-07-02 21:08 -0600
                                                      Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 20:32 -0700
                                              Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-07-03 14:58 -0500
                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:55 +0000
                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:16 -0500
                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:37 +0000
                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:59 -0500
                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 21:21 +0000
                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:45 -0500
                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:12 +0000
                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 17:36 -0500
                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:38 +0000
                                                Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:16 -0500
                                                  Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:41 +0000
                                                    Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:05 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:55 +0000
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:05 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:46 -0700
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 17:07 -0500
                                                              Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-03 00:05 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:44 +0000
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 20:05 -0500
                                                      Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 14:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:41 -0500
                                                          Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-03 00:16 -0500
                                                            Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-03 10:33 -0500

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#587532

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-01 20:33 +0000
Message-ID<gl0j4d-lm9.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587529
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:15:36 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There
>>>>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere
>>>>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic
>>>>>> posting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very
>>>>> precisely so it could be put to use. A lot of death
>>>>> anguish and pain is also from muscle spasms. I heard
>>>>> how someone died and last two hours of it was nothing
>>>>> but extreme pain from muscle spasm. That was just
>>>>> cancer. Who knows how people die in other ways. Why
>>>>> the hell haven't they started to use curare at least
>>>>> for the dying?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> curare is not a pain reliever,
>>>> it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits, 
>>>> google for it.
>>>> 
>>>> they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you 
>>>> want that.
>>>> 
>>>> if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain.
>>>> 
>>>> so dont get liver cancer.
>>> 
>>> The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach
>>> muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were
>>> intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit
>>> (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop
>>> before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let
>>> her die in a rest position and in peace.
>> 
>> She would have died unable to speak, move, or breathe, but still in
>> pain, you uneducable idiot.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Not with the right amount of curare, no. 

Ignorant, babbling nonsense even after being spoon fed the applicable
information.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#587537

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 16:02 -0500
Message-ID<pcqwzv0jzlh8.rxojklb06k6p$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587532
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:33:20 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:15:36 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There
>>>>>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere
>>>>>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic
>>>>>>> posting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very
>>>>>> precisely so it could be put to use. A lot of death
>>>>>> anguish and pain is also from muscle spasms. I heard
>>>>>> how someone died and last two hours of it was nothing
>>>>>> but extreme pain from muscle spasm. That was just
>>>>>> cancer. Who knows how people die in other ways. Why
>>>>>> the hell haven't they started to use curare at least
>>>>>> for the dying?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> curare is not a pain reliever,
>>>>> it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits, 
>>>>> google for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you 
>>>>> want that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain.
>>>>> 
>>>>> so dont get liver cancer.
>>>> 
>>>> The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach
>>>> muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were
>>>> intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit
>>>> (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop
>>>> before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let
>>>> her die in a rest position and in peace.
>>> 
>>> She would have died unable to speak, move, or breathe, but still in
>>> pain, you uneducable idiot.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Not with the right amount of curare, no. 
> 
> Ignorant, babbling nonsense even after being spoon fed the applicable
> information.
> 

Then you should spoon feed me more. What you provided
wasn't enough to rule its successful application out
for leg cramps. 

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#587541

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-01 21:19 +0000
Message-ID<gc3j4d-av9.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587537
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:33:20 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:15:36 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There
>>>>>>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere
>>>>>>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic
>>>>>>>> posting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very
>>>>>>> precisely so it could be put to use. A lot of death
>>>>>>> anguish and pain is also from muscle spasms. I heard
>>>>>>> how someone died and last two hours of it was nothing
>>>>>>> but extreme pain from muscle spasm. That was just
>>>>>>> cancer. Who knows how people die in other ways. Why
>>>>>>> the hell haven't they started to use curare at least
>>>>>>> for the dying?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> curare is not a pain reliever,
>>>>>> it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits, 
>>>>>> google for it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you 
>>>>>> want that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> so dont get liver cancer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach
>>>>> muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were
>>>>> intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit
>>>>> (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop
>>>>> before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let
>>>>> her die in a rest position and in peace.
>>>> 
>>>> She would have died unable to speak, move, or breathe, but still in
>>>> pain, you uneducable idiot.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not with the right amount of curare, no. 
>> 
>> Ignorant, babbling nonsense even after being spoon fed the applicable
>> information.
>> 
> 
> Then you should spoon feed me more. What you provided
> wasn't enough to rule its successful application out
> for leg cramps. 

You mean in spite of the references plainly saying there are better
things these days?


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#587550

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 16:47 -0500
Message-ID<gzj9vckgvwvl$.bnohjdbjci98$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587541
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:19:44 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:33:20 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:15:36 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There
>>>>>>>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere
>>>>>>>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic
>>>>>>>>> posting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very
>>>>>>>> precisely so it could be put to use. A lot of death
>>>>>>>> anguish and pain is also from muscle spasms. I heard
>>>>>>>> how someone died and last two hours of it was nothing
>>>>>>>> but extreme pain from muscle spasm. That was just
>>>>>>>> cancer. Who knows how people die in other ways. Why
>>>>>>>> the hell haven't they started to use curare at least
>>>>>>>> for the dying?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> curare is not a pain reliever,
>>>>>>> it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits, 
>>>>>>> google for it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you 
>>>>>>> want that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> so dont get liver cancer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach
>>>>>> muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were
>>>>>> intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit
>>>>>> (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop
>>>>>> before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let
>>>>>> her die in a rest position and in peace.
>>>>> 
>>>>> She would have died unable to speak, move, or breathe, but still in
>>>>> pain, you uneducable idiot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Not with the right amount of curare, no. 
>>> 
>>> Ignorant, babbling nonsense even after being spoon fed the applicable
>>> information.
>>> 
>> 
>> Then you should spoon feed me more. What you provided
>> wasn't enough to rule its successful application out
>> for leg cramps. 
> 
> You mean in spite of the references plainly saying there are better
> things these days?
> 

These "things" they say are better have side effects
and addictions to them.

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#587566

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-01 22:42 +0000
Message-ID<v78j4d-iga.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587550
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:19:44 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:33:20 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:15:36 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There
>>>>>>>>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic
>>>>>>>>>> posting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very
>>>>>>>>> precisely so it could be put to use. A lot of death
>>>>>>>>> anguish and pain is also from muscle spasms. I heard
>>>>>>>>> how someone died and last two hours of it was nothing
>>>>>>>>> but extreme pain from muscle spasm. That was just
>>>>>>>>> cancer. Who knows how people die in other ways. Why
>>>>>>>>> the hell haven't they started to use curare at least
>>>>>>>>> for the dying?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> curare is not a pain reliever,
>>>>>>>> it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits, 
>>>>>>>> google for it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you 
>>>>>>>> want that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> so dont get liver cancer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach
>>>>>>> muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were
>>>>>>> intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit
>>>>>>> (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop
>>>>>>> before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let
>>>>>>> her die in a rest position and in peace.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> She would have died unable to speak, move, or breathe, but still in
>>>>>> pain, you uneducable idiot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not with the right amount of curare, no. 
>>>> 
>>>> Ignorant, babbling nonsense even after being spoon fed the applicable
>>>> information.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then you should spoon feed me more. What you provided
>>> wasn't enough to rule its successful application out
>>> for leg cramps. 
>> 
>> You mean in spite of the references plainly saying there are better
>> things these days?
>> 
> 
> These "things" they say are better have side effects
> and addictions to them.

Did you get your medical degree at the Josef Mengele Institute?


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#587574

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 18:11 -0500
Message-ID<m9781l98lntr$.43srt8njro3m$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587566
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:42:39 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:19:44 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:33:20 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:15:36 -0000,
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well then dilute it by another factor of 1000. There
>>>>>>>>>>>> must be a safe and effective range in there somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>> that would only curb the spasm and nothing else.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Once again a little reading would have prevented yet another idiotic
>>>>>>>>>>> posting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The toxicity of curare alkaloids in man hasn't been established."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curare#Toxicity
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then what's pharma for? They should establish it very
>>>>>>>>>> precisely so it could be put to use. A lot of death
>>>>>>>>>> anguish and pain is also from muscle spasms. I heard
>>>>>>>>>> how someone died and last two hours of it was nothing
>>>>>>>>>> but extreme pain from muscle spasm. That was just
>>>>>>>>>> cancer. Who knows how people die in other ways. Why
>>>>>>>>>> the hell haven't they started to use curare at least
>>>>>>>>>> for the dying?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> curare is not a pain reliever,
>>>>>>>>> it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits, 
>>>>>>>>> google for it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you 
>>>>>>>>> want that.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> so dont get liver cancer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach
>>>>>>>> muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were
>>>>>>>> intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit
>>>>>>>> (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop
>>>>>>>> before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let
>>>>>>>> her die in a rest position and in peace.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> She would have died unable to speak, move, or breathe, but still in
>>>>>>> pain, you uneducable idiot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not with the right amount of curare, no. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ignorant, babbling nonsense even after being spoon fed the applicable
>>>>> information.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Then you should spoon feed me more. What you provided
>>>> wasn't enough to rule its successful application out
>>>> for leg cramps. 
>>> 
>>> You mean in spite of the references plainly saying there are better
>>> things these days?
>>> 
>> 
>> These "things" they say are better have side effects
>> and addictions to them.
> 
> Did you get your medical degree at the Josef Mengele Institute?
> 
> 

Leg cramps looks like is not a one time thing. It is
with someone for a while. Then use of diazepam is
obviously wrong cause it creates addiction. You need
common sense, not a medical degree. I give it a good
chance the only reason they want to stay away from
curare as a med for people's use against cramps is its
potential to be an ideal suicide drug. Double the
injection dose and you are byebye and nobody can help
you if they don't know you did it. Clean, effective,
and humane compared to use of guns or "belts." 

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#587583

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 00:26 +0000
Message-ID<o9ej4d-04b.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587574
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Leg cramps looks like is not a one time thing.

You don't know what leg cramps are.

<snip silly babble>

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#587587

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 19:41 -0500
Message-ID<1vkj3i2dp4guk.1smdut17aa0jh.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587583
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:26:00 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> Leg cramps looks like is not a one time thing.
> 
> You don't know what leg cramps are.
> 

Then explain.

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#587605

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 01:04 +0000
Message-ID<ehgj4d-h8b.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587587
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:26:00 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>>> Leg cramps looks like is not a one time thing.
>> 
>> You don't know what leg cramps are.
>> 
> 
> Then explain.

Do your own research, idiot.


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#587610

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 20:27 -0500
Message-ID<t16g8u2cpzxn$.163p8xcl22gh0.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587605
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 01:04:14 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:26:00 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> <snip>
>>> 
>>>> Leg cramps looks like is not a one time thing.
>>> 
>>> You don't know what leg cramps are.
>>> 
>> 
>> Then explain.
> 
> Do your own research, idiot.
> 

You're the one who jumped in here. Well, if you have
done your research explain it then. 

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#587629

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 05:35 +0000
Message-ID<ud0k4d-nrc.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587610
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 01:04:14 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:26:00 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> <snip>
>>>> 
>>>>> Leg cramps looks like is not a one time thing.
>>>> 
>>>> You don't know what leg cramps are.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then explain.
>> 
>> Do your own research, idiot.
>> 
> 
> You're the one who jumped in here.

If you post idiocy, expect someone to note that.

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#587633

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-02 09:16 -0500
Message-ID<4mv6lyp4yvin$.8uc9b5kttiq4$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587629
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:35:26 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 01:04:14 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:26:00 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Leg cramps looks like is not a one time thing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You don't know what leg cramps are.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Then explain.
>>> 
>>> Do your own research, idiot.
>>> 
>> 
>> You're the one who jumped in here.
> 
> If you post idiocy, expect someone to note that.
> 

You can't fight idiocy without any counter argument.

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#587662

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 17:41 +0000
Message-ID<cual4d-5ch.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587633
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:35:26 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 01:04:14 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:26:00 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Leg cramps looks like is not a one time thing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You don't know what leg cramps are.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then explain.
>>>> 
>>>> Do your own research, idiot.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> You're the one who jumped in here.
>> 
>> If you post idiocy, expect someone to note that.
>> 
> 
> You can't fight idiocy without any counter argument.

In your case that has been trivial.

All one need do is look up leg cramps causes and cures and curare.


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#587706

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-02 16:52 -0500
Message-ID<112im23m2x7nd.owdnpaq2koay$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587662
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:41:00 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:35:26 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 01:04:14 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:26:00 -0000,
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Leg cramps looks like is not a one time thing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You don't know what leg cramps are.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Then explain.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do your own research, idiot.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You're the one who jumped in here.
>>> 
>>> If you post idiocy, expect someone to note that.
>>> 
>> 
>> You can't fight idiocy without any counter argument.
> 
> In your case that has been trivial.
> 
> All one need do is look up leg cramps causes and cures and curare.
> 

"Go Look it up" is not much in the spirit of usenet.
That kook Uncle Al used to say that too, telling us to
look it up. In usenet you other stay aside or
participate with the information itself, not
references to it. 

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#587710

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-02 22:38 +0000
Message-ID<0csl4d-t4j.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#587706
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:41:00 -0000,
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:35:26 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 01:04:14 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:26:00 -0000,
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Leg cramps looks like is not a one time thing.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You don't know what leg cramps are.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Then explain.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do your own research, idiot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You're the one who jumped in here.
>>>> 
>>>> If you post idiocy, expect someone to note that.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> You can't fight idiocy without any counter argument.
>> 
>> In your case that has been trivial.
>> 
>> All one need do is look up leg cramps causes and cures and curare.
>> 
> 
> "Go Look it up" is not much in the spirit of usenet.

Childish nonsense.

> That kook Uncle Al used to say that too,

Uncle Al is a very smart person.

<snip more childish twaddle>


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#587749

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-02 20:12 -0500
Message-ID<qxbp93fr4dx4.njzkvwdrtu2k$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587710
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 22:38:24 -0000,
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:41:00 -0000,
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:35:26 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 01:04:14 -0000,
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:26:00 -0000,
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Leg cramps looks like is not a one time thing.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You don't know what leg cramps are.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Then explain.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Do your own research, idiot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You're the one who jumped in here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you post idiocy, expect someone to note that.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You can't fight idiocy without any counter argument.
>>> 
>>> In your case that has been trivial.
>>> 
>>> All one need do is look up leg cramps causes and cures and curare.
>>> 
>> 
>> "Go Look it up" is not much in the spirit of usenet.
> 
> Childish nonsense.
> 

It's the fact. We _are_ looking it up, in a sense,
when we go to usenet. What remains is bringing such
facts to it. A library doesn't tell you "go buy the
book you want". It has the book. Do you get it?

>> That kook Uncle Al used to say that too,
> 
> Uncle Al is a very smart person.
> 

Being "kook" can be very tricky :) I could recognize
the "kook"ishness in him. You evidently didn't. 

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#587530

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-07-01 15:37 -0500
Message-ID<nl6kao$m7b$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#587524
On 7/1/2016 2:55 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>
>> On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>
>>


>> curare is not a pain reliever,
>> it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits,
>> google for it.
>>
>> they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you
>> want that.

>> if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain.
>>
>> so dont get liver cancer.
>
> The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach
> muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were
> intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit
> (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop
> before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let
> her die in a rest position and in peace. Her daughter
> watching this had to be hospitalized for hours for the
> shock!

   Dr in the USA today would fix that with enough morphine, the feel no 
pain as you die thing, they add one or two other drugs to it as well. 
Dr's will not talk about it, only to the one in trouble, or their family.

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#587534

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
Message-ID<1xfbwvzry5xdr$.1h8lmeuejx5gi.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587530
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:37:29 -0500, Sergio wrote:

> On 7/1/2016 2:55 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> 
> 
>>> curare is not a pain reliever,
>>> it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits,
>>> google for it.
>>>
>>> they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you
>>> want that.
> 
>>> if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain.
>>>
>>> so dont get liver cancer.
>>
>> The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach
>> muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were
>> intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit
>> (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop
>> before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let
>> her die in a rest position and in peace. Her daughter
>> watching this had to be hospitalized for hours for the
>> shock!
> 
>    Dr in the USA today would fix that with enough morphine, the feel no 
> pain as you die thing, they add one or two other drugs to it as well. 
> Dr's will not talk about it, only to the one in trouble, or their family.

I really hope so. This took place in early 1980s in
Dallas in a Church related hospital (presbyterian). 

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#587538

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-07-01 16:03 -0500
Message-ID<nl6lqo$oj8$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#587534
On 7/1/2016 3:54 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:37:29 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>
>> On 7/1/2016 2:55 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>> curare is not a pain reliever,
>>>> it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits,
>>>> google for it.
>>>>
>>>> they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you
>>>> want that.
>>
>>>> if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain.
>>>>
>>>> so dont get liver cancer.

>>> The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach
>>> muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were
>>> intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit
>>> (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop
>>> before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let
>>> her die in a rest position and in peace. Her daughter
>>> watching this had to be hospitalized for hours for the
>>> shock!
>>
>>    Dr in the USA today would fix that with enough morphine, the feel no
>> pain as you die thing, they add one or two other drugs to it as well.
>> Dr's will not talk about it, only to the one in trouble, or their family.
>
> I really hope so. This took place in early 1980s in
> Dallas in a Church related hospital (presbyterian).
>

its different today, even in states that have it outlawed.
I've watched 2, and know of 2 others.
it is between a patient and his/her Dr.
and Drs don't want patients to suffer any pain.
curarie not used in the end game.

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#587543

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-07-01 16:34 -0500
Message-ID<1v7802pwgoytr.yif9u71627xz.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#587538
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:03:05 -0500, Sergio wrote:

> On 7/1/2016 3:54 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:37:29 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/1/2016 2:55 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:41:59 -0500, Sergio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, ClutterFreak wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:03:05 -0000,
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:44:22 -0000,
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> curare is not a pain reliever,
>>>>> it is used in many operations in small amounts, had many benifits,
>>>>> google for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> they use morphine for extreme pain, and to check you out for good if you
>>>>> want that.
>>>
>>>>> if you have liver cancer, they cannot relieve the pain.
>>>>>
>>>>> so dont get liver cancer.
> 
>>>> The pain, in that case, was from spasm of her stomach
>>>> muscles. Old and emaciated as she was, the spasms were
>>>> intense enough to make her sit up each time and vomit
>>>> (non-producing). She did that for two hours nonstop
>>>> before she died. Fuck that. A little curare could let
>>>> her die in a rest position and in peace. Her daughter
>>>> watching this had to be hospitalized for hours for the
>>>> shock!
>>>
>>>    Dr in the USA today would fix that with enough morphine, the feel no
>>> pain as you die thing, they add one or two other drugs to it as well.
>>> Dr's will not talk about it, only to the one in trouble, or their family.
>>
>> I really hope so. This took place in early 1980s in
>> Dallas in a Church related hospital (presbyterian).
>>
> 
> its different today, even in states that have it outlawed.
> I've watched 2, and know of 2 others.
> it is between a patient and his/her Dr.
> and Drs don't want patients to suffer any pain.
> curarie not used in the end game.

If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams
chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on
enough morphine to do the job. 

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