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  U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 21:28 -0500
    Re: U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-20 06:12 +0000
      Re: U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 08:17 -0500
        Re: U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-20 18:07 +0000
          Re: U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 15:30 -0500
            Re: U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-20 21:08 +0000
              Re: U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 09:11 -0500
                Re: U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-24 18:49 +0000
                  Re: U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 14:30 -0500
                    Re: U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-10-26 20:02 +0000
    Re: U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment Raymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net> - 2015-10-20 09:34 -0700
    Re: U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 14:34 -0700

#526996 — U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-19 21:28 -0500
SubjectU.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment
Message-ID<EuednQYMyfEtO7jLnZ2dnUU7-fUAAAAA@giganews.com>
U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment
> http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2015/10/u-s-nuclear-physicists-push-new-neutrino-experiment


> The United States should seize the initiative and soon mount a
> massive experiment to search for a hypothesized type of nuclear decay
> that is possible only if an elusive, nearly massless particle called
> the neutrino is—weirdly—its own antiparticle. That’s one of four
> recommendations in a new long-range plan developed by U.S. nuclear
> physicists. The plan, presented to a federal advisory panel today in
> Washington, D.C., will inform planning for the coming decade in the
> Department of Energy’s (DOE’s) nuclear physics program, and the
> National Science Foundation’s (NSF’s) physics program. If researchers
> observe the new decay—and they hope to start work on the experiment
> within 3 years—the discovery would require rewrites of textbooks in
> nuclear and particle physics.
>
> The report, which was unanimously approved by the Nuclear Science
> Advisory Committee (NSAC), immediately met with praise from DOE
> officials. “It’s an ambitious plan,” says Patricia Dehmer, acting
> director of DOE’s $5.1 billion Office of Science, which will spend
> $596 million this year on its nuclear physics program. “It builds on
> the past and looks to a very promising future.”

This is a big deal.

> In ordinary beta decay, a neutron in a nucleus such as tritium can
> change into a proton by spitting out an electron and an
> anti-neutrino. Some nuclei, such as selenium-82, can spit out two
> electrons and two antineutrinos in so-called double beta decay. But
> in neutrinoless double beta decay, only two electrons would come out
> of a nucleus. For that to happen, the neutrino would have to be its
> own antiparticle, as the antineutrino emitted with one electron would
> instantly be reabsorbed as a neutrino to trigger emission of the
> second electron.
>
> If the neutrino were its own antiparticle, it would be the only
> building block of matter with that property—although force-carrying
> particles like the photon gluon are their own antiparticles. It would
> also mean that the neutrino would have to get its mass in away
> different from other matter particles, that are weighed down by the
> so-called Higgs mechanism.
>


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#527023

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-10-20 06:12 +0000
Message-ID<ii2hfc-dsr.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#526996
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment

Of course they do or they would be out of a job, shithead.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#527024

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-20 08:17 -0500
Message-ID<o8GdnVs1q7xgo7vLnZ2dnUU7-SWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#527023
On 10/20/15 1:12 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment
>
> Of course they do or they would be out of a job, shithead.
>
>

   Looking into my crystal ball--I see Anger Management classes in
   your future, jimp.

   U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment
> http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2015/10/u-s-nuclear-physicists-push-new-neutrino-experiment

 > The United States should seize the initiative and soon mount a
 > massive experiment to search for a hypothesized type of nuclear decay
 > that is possible only if an elusive, nearly massless particle called
 > the neutrino is—weirdly—its own antiparticle. That’s one of four
 > recommendations in a new long-range plan developed by U.S. nuclear
 > physicists. The plan, presented to a federal advisory panel today in
 > Washington, D.C., will inform planning for the coming decade in the
 > Department of Energy’s (DOE’s) nuclear physics program, and the
 > National Science Foundation’s (NSF’s) physics program. If researchers
 > observe the new decay—and they hope to start work on the experiment
 > within 3 years—the discovery would require rewrites of textbooks in
 > nuclear and particle physics.
 >
 > The report, which was unanimously approved by the Nuclear Science
 > Advisory Committee (NSAC), immediately met with praise from DOE
 > officials. “It’s an ambitious plan,” says Patricia Dehmer, acting
 > director of DOE’s $5.1 billion Office of Science, which will spend
 > $596 million this year on its nuclear physics program. “It builds on
 > the past and looks to a very promising future.”

This is a big deal.

 > In ordinary beta decay, a neutron in a nucleus such as tritium can
 > change into a proton by spitting out an electron and an
 > anti-neutrino. Some nuclei, such as selenium-82, can spit out two
 > electrons and two antineutrinos in so-called double beta decay. But
 > in neutrinoless double beta decay, only two electrons would come out
 > of a nucleus. For that to happen, the neutrino would have to be its
 > own antiparticle, as the antineutrino emitted with one electron would
 > instantly be reabsorbed as a neutrino to trigger emission of the
 > second electron.
 >
 > If the neutrino were its own antiparticle, it would be the only
 > building block of matter with that property—although force-carrying
 > particles like the photon gluon are their own antiparticles. It would
 > also mean that the neutrino would have to get its mass in away
 > different from other matter particles, that are weighed down by the
 > so-called Higgs mechanism.
 >



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#527058

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-10-20 18:07 +0000
Message-ID<efcifc-i53.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#527024
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/20/15 1:12 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment
>>
>> Of course they do or they would be out of a job, shithead.
>>
>>
> 
>   Looking into my crystal ball--I see Anger Management classes in
>   your future, jimp.

And yet again the ignorant ass hat, spamming piece of shit confuses
the absolute contempt and total disgust for his cut and paste spamming
for anger.

Perhaps it is it's own anger at itself for having no purpose in life
other than to cut and paste puff piece articles from web sites to a
discussion group.

<snip yet another repaste of a snipped cut and paste>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#527077

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-20 15:30 -0500
Message-ID<d4WdnT4vsbLqObvLnZ2dnUU7-XmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#527058
On 10/20/15 1:07 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> And yet again the ignorant ass hat, spamming piece of shit confuses
> the absolute contempt and total disgust for his cut and paste spamming
> for anger.

   Absolute contempt and total disgust are the meat of these Anger
   Management classes, jimp. You need these services:
> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes


U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment
> http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2015/10/u-s-nuclear-physicists-push-new-neutrino-experiment

 > The United States should seize the initiative and soon mount a
 > massive experiment to search for a hypothesized type of nuclear decay
 > that is possible only if an elusive, nearly massless particle called
 > the neutrino is—weirdly—its own antiparticle. That’s one of four
 > recommendations in a new long-range plan developed by U.S. nuclear
 > physicists. The plan, presented to a federal advisory panel today in
 > Washington, D.C., will inform planning for the coming decade in the
 > Department of Energy’s (DOE’s) nuclear physics program, and the
 > National Science Foundation’s (NSF’s) physics program. If researchers
 > observe the new decay—and they hope to start work on the experiment
 > within 3 years—the discovery would require rewrites of textbooks in
 > nuclear and particle physics.
 >
 > The report, which was unanimously approved by the Nuclear Science
 > Advisory Committee (NSAC), immediately met with praise from DOE
 > officials. “It’s an ambitious plan,” says Patricia Dehmer, acting
 > director of DOE’s $5.1 billion Office of Science, which will spend
 > $596 million this year on its nuclear physics program. “It builds on
 > the past and looks to a very promising future.”


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#527082

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-10-20 21:08 +0000
Message-ID<l3nifc-q94.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#527077
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/20/15 1:07 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> And yet again the ignorant ass hat, spamming piece of shit confuses
>> the absolute contempt and total disgust for his cut and paste spamming
>> for anger.
> 
>   Absolute contempt and total disgust are the meat of these Anger

Absolute contempt and total disgust are not anger, stupid, cut and
paste, spamming ass hole.

<snip third idiotic repaste of snipped cut and paste>

Have you ever wondered what your life might have been like if you had
the competence to do more than copy the words of others, spamming piece
of shit?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#527869

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-24 09:11 -0500
Message-ID<KNWdnSvBDooYDLbLnZ2dnUU7-dGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#527082
On 10/20/15 4:08 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Absolute contempt and total disgust are not anger, stupid, cut and
> paste, spamming ass hole.


   Absolute contempt and total disgust are the meat of these Anger
   Management classes, jimp. You need these services:
> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes

   U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment
> http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2015/10/u-s-nuclear-physicists-push-new-neutrino-experiment

 > The United States should seize the initiative and soon mount a
 > massive experiment to search for a hypothesized type of nuclear decay
 > that is possible only if an elusive, nearly massless particle called
 > the neutrino is—weirdly—its own antiparticle. That’s one of four
 > recommendations in a new long-range plan developed by U.S. nuclear
 > physicists. The plan, presented to a federal advisory panel today in
 > Washington, D.C., will inform planning for the coming decade in the
 > Department of Energy’s (DOE’s) nuclear physics program, and the
 > National Science Foundation’s (NSF’s) physics program. If researchers
 > observe the new decay—and they hope to start work on the experiment
 > within 3 years—the discovery would require rewrites of textbooks in
 > nuclear and particle physics.
 >
 > The report, which was unanimously approved by the Nuclear Science
 > Advisory Committee (NSAC), immediately met with praise from DOE
 > officials. “It’s an ambitious plan,” says Patricia Dehmer, acting
 > director of DOE’s $5.1 billion Office of Science, which will spend
 > $596 million this year on its nuclear physics program. “It builds on
 > the past and looks to a very promising future.”

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#527920

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-10-24 18:49 +0000
Message-ID<sd0tfc-k2a.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#527869
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:

A repaste of the previously snipped cut and paste yet again.

Have you ever wondered what your life might have been like if you had
the competence to do more than just copy the words of others, spamming
piece of shit?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#528305

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-26 14:30 -0500
Message-ID<AKSdncG7c-Xd4rPLnZ2dnUU7-budnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#527920
On 10/24/15 1:49 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> A repaste of the previously snipped cut and paste yet again.
>
> Have you ever wondered what your life might have been like if you had
> the competence to do more than just copy the words of others, spamming
> piece of shit?
>




   Absolute contempt and total disgust are the meat of these Anger
   Management classes, jimp. You need these services:
> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes


   U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment
> http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2015/10/u-s-nuclear-physicists-push-new-neutrino-experiment

 > The United States should seize the initiative and soon mount a
 > massive experiment to search for a hypothesized type of nuclear decay
 > that is possible only if an elusive, nearly massless particle called
 > the neutrino is—weirdly—its own antiparticle. That’s one of four
 > recommendations in a new long-range plan developed by U.S. nuclear
 > physicists. The plan, presented to a federal advisory panel today in
 > Washington, D.C., will inform planning for the coming decade in the
 > Department of Energy’s (DOE’s) nuclear physics program, and the
 > National Science Foundation’s (NSF’s) physics program. If researchers
 > observe the new decay—and they hope to start work on the experiment
 > within 3 years—the discovery would require rewrites of textbooks in
 > nuclear and particle physics.
 >
 > The report, which was unanimously approved by the Nuclear Science
 > Advisory Committee (NSAC), immediately met with praise from DOE
 > officials. “It’s an ambitious plan,” says Patricia Dehmer, acting
 > director of DOE’s $5.1 billion Office of Science, which will spend
 > $596 million this year on its nuclear physics program. “It builds on
 > the past and looks to a very promising future.”



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#528322

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-10-26 20:02 +0000
Message-ID<ggd2gc-d0s.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#528305
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:

Nothing; just a repaste of the previously snip cut and paste.

Have you ever wondered what your life might have been like if you had
the competence to do more than just copy the words of others, spamming
piece of shit?

Have you ever wondered why you are the only person who thinks I am
angry with them, spamming piece of shit?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#527043

FromRaymond Yohros <bat@birdband.net>
Date2015-10-20 09:34 -0700
Message-ID<94673671-b70e-4be6-91e7-634e516a4d30@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#526996
On Monday, 19 October 2015 21:28:02 UTC-5, Sam Wormley  wrote:
> > If the neutrino were its own antiparticle, it would be the only
> > building block of matter with that property--although force-carrying
> > particles like the photon gluon are their own antiparticles. It would
> > also mean that the neutrino would have to get its mass in away
> > different from other matter particles, that are weighed down by the
> > so-called Higgs mechanism.
> >
> 

fermions that act like bosons have interesting implications
the Higgs mechanism does not work the way it was previously thought 

r.y

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#528353

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-26 14:34 -0700
Message-ID<5a092899-b2d1-44c6-a12a-764d0c72c5f9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#526996
On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 7:28:02 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> U.S. nuclear physicists push for new neutrino experiment
> > http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2015/10/u-s-nuclear-physicists-push-new-neutrino-experiment
> 
> 
> > The United States should seize the initiative and soon mount a
> > massive experiment to search for a hypothesized type of nuclear decay
> > that is possible only if an elusive, nearly massless particle called
> > the neutrino is--weirdly--its own antiparticle. That's one of four
> > recommendations in a new long-range plan developed by U.S. nuclear
> > physicists. The plan, presented to a federal advisory panel today in
> > Washington, D.C., will inform planning for the coming decade in the
> > Department of Energy's (DOE's) nuclear physics program, and the
> > National Science Foundation's (NSF's) physics program. If researchers
> > observe the new decay--and they hope to start work on the experiment
> > within 3 years--the discovery would require rewrites of textbooks in
> > nuclear and particle physics.
> >
> > The report, which was unanimously approved by the Nuclear Science
> > Advisory Committee (NSAC), immediately met with praise from DOE
> > officials. "It's an ambitious plan," says Patricia Dehmer, acting
> > director of DOE's $5.1 billion Office of Science, which will spend
> > $596 million this year on its nuclear physics program. "It builds on
> > the past and looks to a very promising future."
> 
> This is a big deal.
> 
> > In ordinary beta decay, a neutron in a nucleus such as tritium can
> > change into a proton by spitting out an electron and an
> > anti-neutrino. Some nuclei, such as selenium-82, can spit out two
> > electrons and two antineutrinos in so-called double beta decay. But
> > in neutrinoless double beta decay, only two electrons would come out
> > of a nucleus. For that to happen, the neutrino would have to be its
> > own antiparticle, as the antineutrino emitted with one electron would
> > instantly be reabsorbed as a neutrino to trigger emission of the
> > second electron.
> >
> > If the neutrino were its own antiparticle, it would be the only
> > building block of matter with that property--although force-carrying
> > particles like the photon gluon are their own antiparticles. It would
> > also mean that the neutrino would have to get its mass in away
> > different from other matter particles, that are weighed down by the
> > so-called Higgs mechanism.
> >
> 


Neutrino is bradyon and tachyon?

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