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| First post | 2016-09-11 12:43 -0700 |
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Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 12:43 -0700
Atheism is Witchcraft john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 14:02 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-09-11 16:16 -0600
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Normal Human <NH@....> - 2016-09-12 08:01 +1000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-11 15:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-11 16:28 -0600
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 16:49 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-12 00:06 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:26 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Hot-Text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-16 18:57 -0500
Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-16 22:06 -0600
"Wisely Non-Theist" "Billy_Ray_Ferrell_USA-VP_2016" <billyrferrell@minpin.mshome.net> - 2016-09-17 00:32 -0500
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 00:34 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:07 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:21 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-13 09:42 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 10:21 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 14:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-14 12:06 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 09:10 +1000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-13 17:21 -0600
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 19:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-14 03:15 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 20:33 -0500
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:09 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-13 20:55 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-14 20:47 +1000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-14 01:16 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-13 22:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-13 21:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 09:32 +1000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 17:38 -0600
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-14 23:15 -0600
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-15 03:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 23:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 08:52 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-15 18:01 +1000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 02:50 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-15 22:48 +0200
Re: Theism is Witchcraft Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-09-15 15:02 -0600
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-16 02:58 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-16 08:16 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-16 01:15 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 23:41 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-18 13:26 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-18 21:01 -0600
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:49 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 17:31 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 23:16 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 21:38 -0700
Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-19 23:37 -0600
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-19 23:58 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 09:59 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:11 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 22:28 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 10:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 18:38 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-20 15:14 -0400
Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-20 13:46 -0600
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 20:46 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-15 22:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 17:45 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-15 17:15 -0500
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-15 21:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 04:23 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 21:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 01:56 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 08:30 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-17 07:10 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 04:14 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 16:25 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 16:44 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 19:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:50 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:14 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-18 15:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-30 06:33 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-29 23:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:48 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 10:10 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-01 10:42 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 02:54 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 02:06 -0500
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 11:17 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-30 14:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-30 23:11 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-01 08:52 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-01 05:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 07:39 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 02:24 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-10-02 11:53 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-10-02 09:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-10-02 18:02 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-02 11:02 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-17 17:26 +0000
Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 11:48 -0600
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-17 12:54 -0500
Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-17 12:47 -0600
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 20:50 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:41 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:36 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 12:00 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-17 17:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:32 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 22:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-18 06:35 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-18 07:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-18 06:35 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:46 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:15 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:43 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 01:02 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 08:21 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 20:04 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-20 13:09 -0700
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-18 00:50 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 20:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 17:49 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-16 21:51 +0000
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 02:49 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 03:47 -0500
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-16 05:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-16 17:12 -0400
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-16 16:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-17 19:00 +0200
Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-14 03:58 -0400
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-09-18 06:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <e46kpjFacr1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #597367 |
Am 18.09.2016 02:42, schrieb Christopher A. Lee: >>>>>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals, >>>>>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god >>>>>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no >>>>>> supernatural beings. >>>>> >>>>> Darwin was an evil British idiot. >>>> >>>> How was he "evil"? >>>> >>>> >>>>> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him >>>>> personally to various 'bad guys'. > > What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot. > >>>> What is this line? >>> >>> There was a 'Thomas Huxley', who was called 'Darwin's bulldog'. > > So? > > He defended Darwin's ideas. > > What they actually wore, not what liars like this one pretend. > >>> He was member of the so called 'X-Club', which had friendly relations to >>> Count Arthur de Gobineau. > > It was a science club. > > And what was their connection with de Gobineau? > >>> From this guy stems the idea of the 'Aryan race'. He was quite >>> influential on other Nazi-theoreticians, like e.g. Houston Steward >>> Chamberlain. > Maybe you should open a book about the history of the 20th century. And certainly you'll find an article or two about Germany. And certainly you will read about the WWs one and two. The 2nd of these wars was caused by a political party called 'NSDAP' in Germany. This party and their members are commonly called 'Nazis'. NSDAP means in English 'National Socialist Workers Party of Germany'. They had occult roots, which stem from theosophy of Helena Blavatski, which had led to the 'Thule society'. Another source was socialism and that to the foundations of 'DAP' (Deutsche Arbeiter Partei - German Workers Party). Than we find elitism in form of occult orders like the 'SS'. Other roots stem from the support by large corporations, like e.g. the Ford Motor Company. From the theoretical side we had roots in certain ideologies and ideas. The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself based his ideas on Darwin. And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds and the bankers. Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'. And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in the 20th. But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger puzzle. It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators from further destruction. The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown systems are reinvented from what is known about them. If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find out, who did what in these evil plans. TH
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| From | Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-17 23:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hlwdjsd2-FAFAEE.23242217092016@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #597385 |
In article <e46kpjFacr1U1@mid.individual.net>, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > Am 18.09.2016 02:42, schrieb Christopher A. Lee: > > >>>>>> Atheism says nothing about evolution, natural selection, animals, > >>>>>> predators, creation of the universe or lies other than it wasn't a god > >>>>>> responsible as the one and only tenet of athesism is that there are no > >>>>>> supernatural beings. > >>>>> > >>>>> Darwin was an evil British idiot. > >>>> > >>>> How was he "evil"? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> He is among the ancestors of Naziism and a line can be drawn from him > >>>>> personally to various 'bad guys'. > > > > What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot. > > > >>>> What is this line? > >>> > >>> There was a 'Thomas Huxley', who was called 'Darwin's bulldog'. > > > > So? > > > > He defended Darwin's ideas. > > > > What they actually wore, not what liars like this one pretend. > > > >>> He was member of the so called 'X-Club', which had friendly relations to > >>> Count Arthur de Gobineau. > > > > It was a science club. > > > > And what was their connection with de Gobineau? > > > >>> From this guy stems the idea of the 'Aryan race'. He was quite > >>> influential on other Nazi-theoreticians, like e.g. Houston Steward > >>> Chamberlain. > > > > Maybe you should open a book about the history of the 20th century. > > And certainly you'll find an article or two about Germany. > > And certainly you will read about the WWs one and two. > > The 2nd of these wars was caused by a political party called 'NSDAP' in > Germany. > > This party and their members are commonly called 'Nazis'. > > NSDAP means in English 'National Socialist Workers Party of Germany'. > > They had occult roots, which stem from theosophy of Helena Blavatski, > which had led to the 'Thule society'. > > Another source was socialism and that to the foundations of 'DAP' > (Deutsche Arbeiter Partei - German Workers Party). > > Than we find elitism in form of occult orders like the 'SS'. > > Other roots stem from the support by large corporations, like e.g. the > Ford Motor Company. > > From the theoretical side we had roots in certain ideologies and ideas. > > The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself > based his ideas on Darwin. > > And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds > and the bankers. > > Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'. > > And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in > the 20th. > > But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger > puzzle. > > It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators > from further destruction. > > The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown > systems are reinvented from what is known about them. > > If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system > can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find > out, who did what in these evil plans. And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any of this had anything to do with Darwin. -- JD Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a God superior to themselves. Most Gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-09-18 20:14 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #597393 |
Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas: >> From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas. >> >> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself >> based his ideas on Darwin. >> >> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds >> and the bankers. >> >> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'. >> >> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in >> the 20th. >> >> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger >> puzzle. >> >> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators >> from further destruction. >> >> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown >> systems are reinvented from what is known about them. >> >> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system >> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find >> out, who did what in these evil plans. > > > > And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any > of this had anything to do with Darwin. > Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind. But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political importance as Naziism. TH
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-09-18 15:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <tbpttb1onon70nfeu9v0p8ld2igju23asi@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #597417 |
On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in alt.atheism with message-id <e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net> wrote: >Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas: > >>> From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas. >>> >>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself >>> based his ideas on Darwin. >>> >>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds >>> and the bankers. >>> >>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'. >>> >>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in >>> the 20th. >>> >>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger >>> puzzle. >>> >>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators >>> from further destruction. >>> >>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown >>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them. >>> >>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system >>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find >>> out, who did what in these evil plans. >> >> >> >> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any >> of this had anything to do with Darwin. >> > >Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind. > >But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political >importance as Naziism. > >TH Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of psychopaths. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 06:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <e56891FsschU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #597421 |
Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de> in
> alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
>
>> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>>
>>>> From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
>>>>
>>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
>>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
>>>>
>>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
>>>> and the bankers.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
>>>>
>>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
>>>> the 20th.
>>>>
>>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
>>>> puzzle.
>>>>
>>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
>>>> from further destruction.
>>>>
>>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
>>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
>>>>
>>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
>>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
>>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
>>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
>>>
>>
>> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
>>
>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>> importance as Naziism.
>>
>> TH
>
> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
> psychopaths.
>
Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
the same age as Hitler and also gay.
Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
got a false beard and the hair painted.
He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
her kids.
And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
similar to Winifried's friend.
Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
what is actually a death symbol.
Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
for Human Relations').
Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
(Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
Tavistock Square.)
But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
British aristocracy.
So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
'capitalists'.
Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
long as Briton stays a monarchy.
TH
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-09-29 23:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57EE05BC.22C2@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #598904 |
Thomas Heger wrote:
>
> Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
> > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de> in
> > alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> >>
> >>>> From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
> >>>>
> >>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
> >>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
> >>>>
> >>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
> >>>> and the bankers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
> >>>>
> >>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
> >>>> the 20th.
> >>>>
> >>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
> >>>> puzzle.
> >>>>
> >>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
> >>>> from further destruction.
> >>>>
> >>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
> >>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
> >>>>
> >>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
> >>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
> >>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
> >>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
> >>
> >> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
> >> importance as Naziism.
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> > Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
> > psychopaths.
> >
>
> Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>
> The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
>
> The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
>
> Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
>
> Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
> society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
>
> This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
> the same age as Hitler and also gay.
>
> Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
>
> Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
>
> So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
>
> The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
> got a false beard and the hair painted.
>
> He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
> was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
> Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
>
> The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
> grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
>
> The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
> real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
> of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
>
> Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
> 'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
> Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
> paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
>
> Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
> a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
> Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
> her kids.
>
> And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
> similar to Winifried's friend.
>
> Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
> had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
> what is actually a death symbol.
>
> Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
> the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
>
> There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
> 'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
>
> In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
>
> 'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
> 'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
> hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
>
> To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
> linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
> activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
> to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
>
> In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
> be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
> British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
> for Human Relations').
>
> Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
> Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
> since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
> could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
>
> The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
> side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
> aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
>
> It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
> Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
>
> (Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
> Tavistock Square.)
>
> But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
> British aristocracy.
>
> So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
>
> Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
> that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
> who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
> 'capitalists'.
>
> Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
> long as Briton stays a monarchy.
>
> TH
i don't know too much about Germany history..
i'm an American...
they don't talk too much about that period..
but i do remember
there was a east Berlin and
west Berlin.
i think the east might have something to do with commies...
the people of Germany fought the commies because:
"A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism." karl marx
So, anybody who is on the commie side had to be killed.
Aldolf Hitler dies and you got the Wall.
He was just tryin to keep the commies away..
'the spectre of communism'
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-09-30 02:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <s83subtlqsgbpl1stt5lvhauoev7vpj0dv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #598922 |
On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 23:27:08 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<57EE05BC.22C2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>> Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
>> > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de> in
>> > alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>> >>
>> >>>> From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
>> >>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
>> >>>> and the bankers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
>> >>>> the 20th.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
>> >>>> puzzle.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
>> >>>> from further destruction.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
>> >>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
>> >>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
>> >>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
>> >>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
>> >>
>> >> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>> >> importance as Naziism.
>> >>
>> >> TH
>> >
>> > Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
>> > psychopaths.
>> >
>>
>> Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>>
>> The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
>>
>> The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
>>
>> Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
>>
>> Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
>> society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
>>
>> This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
>> the same age as Hitler and also gay.
>>
>> Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
>>
>> Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
>>
>> So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
>>
>> The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
>> got a false beard and the hair painted.
>>
>> He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
>> was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
>> Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
>>
>> The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
>> grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
>>
>> The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
>> real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
>> of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
>>
>> Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
>> 'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
>> Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
>> paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
>>
>> Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
>> a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
>> Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
>> her kids.
>>
>> And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
>> similar to Winifried's friend.
>>
>> Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
>> had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
>> what is actually a death symbol.
>>
>> Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
>> the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
>>
>> There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
>> 'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
>>
>> In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
>>
>> 'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
>> 'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
>> hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
>>
>> To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
>> linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
>> activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
>> to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
>>
>> In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
>> be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
>> British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
>> for Human Relations').
>>
>> Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
>> Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
>> since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
>> could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
>>
>> The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
>> side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
>> aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
>>
>> It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
>> Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
>>
>> (Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
>> Tavistock Square.)
>>
>> But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
>> British aristocracy.
>>
>> So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
>>
>> Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
>> that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
>> who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
>> 'capitalists'.
>>
>> Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
>> long as Briton stays a monarchy.
>>
>> TH
>
>
>
>
>i don't know too much about Germany history..
>i'm an American...
>they don't talk too much about that period..
>
>but i do remember
>there was a east Berlin and
>west Berlin.
>
>i think the east might have something to do with commies...
>
>the people of Germany fought the commies because:
>
>"A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism." karl marx
>
>
>So, anybody who is on the commie side had to be killed.
>
>Aldolf Hitler dies and you got the Wall.
>
>He was just tryin to keep the commies away..
>
>
>'the spectre of communism'
I see you are off your meds too.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.
Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.
Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.
If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-09-30 11:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57EEB361.441E@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #598922 |
The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Thomas Heger wrote:
> >
> > Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
> > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de> in
> > > alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> > >>
> > >>>> From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
> > >>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
> > >>>> and the bankers.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
> > >>>> the 20th.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
> > >>>> puzzle.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
> > >>>> from further destruction.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
> > >>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
> > >>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
> > >>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
> > >>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
> > >>
> > >> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
> > >> importance as Naziism.
> > >>
> > >> TH
> > >
> > > Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
> > > psychopaths.
> > >
> >
> > Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
> >
> > The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
> >
> > The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
> >
> > Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
> >
> > Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
> > society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
> >
> > This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
> > the same age as Hitler and also gay.
> >
> > Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
> >
> > Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
> >
> > So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
> >
> > The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
> > got a false beard and the hair painted.
> >
> > He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
> > was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
> > Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
> >
> > The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
> > grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
> >
> > The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
> > real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
> > of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
> >
> > Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
> > 'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
> > Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
> > paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
> >
> > Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
> > a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
> > Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
> > her kids.
> >
> > And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
> > similar to Winifried's friend.
> >
> > Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
> > had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
> > what is actually a death symbol.
> >
> > Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
> > the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
> >
> > There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
> > 'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
> >
> > In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
> >
> > 'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
> > 'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
> > hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
> >
> > To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
> > linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
> > activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
> > to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
> >
> > In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
> > be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
> > British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
> > for Human Relations').
> >
> > Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
> > Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
> > since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
> > could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
> >
> > The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
> > side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
> > aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
> >
> > It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
> > Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
> >
> > (Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
> > Tavistock Square.)
> >
> > But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
> > British aristocracy.
> >
> > So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
> >
> > Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
> > that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
> > who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
> > 'capitalists'.
> >
> > Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
> > long as Briton stays a monarchy.
> >
> > TH
>
> i don't know too much about Germany history..
> i'm an American...
> they don't talk too much about that period..
>
> but i do remember
> there was a east Berlin and
> west Berlin.
>
> i think the east might have something to do with commies...
>
> the people of Germany fought the commies because:
>
> "A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism." karl marx
>
> So, anybody who is on the commie side had to be killed.
>
> Aldolf Hitler dies and you got the Wall.
>
> He was just tryin to keep the commies away..
>
> 'the spectre of communism'
The truth is...
and when I say "The Truth is"
it means the truth no one has ever told you
the truth is..
the reason they killed all the jewish people was because
they were all...communist.
Auschwitz was created to kill commies. It was in commie terroritory. All
those camps were in commie terriotity.
It was a message to Russia..."Look at what we are doing to yous commies."
Here is another Truth...
Do you know why Israel kills babies in Palestine all the time??
Answer: They are afraid Jesus might come back in Palestine again.
The 'word' is out in Israel...kill Jesus Christ the second he tries to come back.
And the only way to do that is to kill all the babies in Palestine.
The first thing Israel does is kill all the Christians in Palestine.
For some reason that I don't understand...Israel thinks Jesus will return in
Palestine.
So, the order is..to kill all the babies in Palestine.
A game of Whack-A-Mole if you ask me.
In Israel, there is a contract out on Jesus Christ...if you see him, shoot him.
I heard Jesus Christ used to hang out in Palestine a lot...I'm not sure why.
But He is not coming back in Brooklyn...
or Miami florida.
I don't know where Jesus was born at, but I bet they got Israeli soldiers there with
machine guns ready to kill any baby born there.
If you're a woman living in Palestine, ...don't name your child Mary or Jesus.
There is a contract out on both of yous....
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-01 10:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57EFEDF7.7775@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #598971 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > Here is another Truth... > Do you know why Israel kills babies in Palestine all the time?? > Answer: They are afraid Jesus might come back in Palestine again. > > The 'word' is out in Israel...kill Jesus Christ the second he tries to come back. > And the only way to do that is to kill all the babies in Palestine. > > The first thing Israel does is kill all the Christians in Palestine. > > For some reason that I don't understand...Israel thinks Jesus will return in > Palestine. > > So, the order is..to kill all the babies in Palestine. > > A game of Whack-A-Mole if you ask me. > > In Israel, there is a contract out on Jesus Christ...if you see him, shoot him. > > I heard Jesus Christ used to hang out in Palestine a lot...I'm not sure why. > > But He is not coming back in Brooklyn... > > or Miami florida. > > I don't know where Jesus was born at, but I bet they got Israeli soldiers there with > machine guns ready to kill any baby born there. > > If you're a woman living in Palestine, ...don't name your child Mary or Jesus. > > There is a contract out on both of yous.... It appears that some people believe Jesus Christ was born in Jerusalem. "U.S. policy has long refrained from recognizing any nation’s sovereignty over Jerusalem." http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article105236776.html "A 2015 Supreme Court decision reaffirmed U.S. practice that forbids Americans born in Jerusalem to list Israel as their country of birth on passports." http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article105236776.html
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-01 10:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57EFF59C.10FC@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #599048 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Here is another Truth... > > Do you know why Israel kills babies in Palestine all the time?? > > Answer: They are afraid Jesus might come back in Palestine again. > > > > The 'word' is out in Israel...kill Jesus Christ the second he tries to come back. > > And the only way to do that is to kill all the babies in Palestine. > > > > The first thing Israel does is kill all the Christians in Palestine. > > > > For some reason that I don't understand...Israel thinks Jesus will return in > > Palestine. > > > > So, the order is..to kill all the babies in Palestine. > > > > A game of Whack-A-Mole if you ask me. > > > > In Israel, there is a contract out on Jesus Christ...if you see him, shoot him. > > > > I heard Jesus Christ used to hang out in Palestine a lot...I'm not sure why. > > > > But He is not coming back in Brooklyn... > > > > or Miami florida. > > > > I don't know where Jesus was born at, but I bet they got Israeli soldiers there with > > machine guns ready to kill any baby born there. > > > > If you're a woman living in Palestine, ...don't name your child Mary or Jesus. > > > > There is a contract out on both of yous.... > > It appears that some people believe Jesus Christ was born in Jerusalem. > > "U.S. policy has long refrained from recognizing any nation’s sovereignty over Jerusalem." > > http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article105236776.html > > "A 2015 Supreme Court decision reaffirmed U.S. practice that forbids Americans born in Jerusalem to list Israel as their country of birth on passports." > > http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article105236776.html Now, I know what you're thinking... you never heard that Israel has a contract out on Jesus Christ! The United tates is trying to protect Jesus Christ from Israel. It's gotten, political. I'm not...political. I don't live in Washington, D.C. But the Truth is.. Israel has a contract on Jesus Christ. He shows up, He's dead! Israel kills babies in Palestine because they believe that is where Jesus Christ will return. Israel is trying to prevent the return of Jesus Christ. If you look at the Palestine before 1949, you will find the population of Christians was much higher then it is today. Israel killed all the Christians in Palestine. A systemantic genocide of Christians in Palestine. All the Israeli know they must kill Palestine babies...I'm sure they don't know Why. They are probably are told that they will grow up to be terrorist or something like that... just as the United States once told everyone to kill all the American Indians because they were saverages. (you already know the truth about that) https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.activism/pZ-msR5CNpw/4HMPZ60IE0MJ I know you haven't heard anywhere else that Israel has a contract on Jesus Christ, and they kill Palestine babies to prevent His return. You won't read about that in the media or anywhere else in the world....Can you imagine if that got out??? The whole world would go against Israel, we certaintly cannot have that, can we? The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-09-30 02:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1u2subhh498ks283bdpe75rf896tuaq4r5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #598904 |
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 06:33:29 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
alt.atheism with message-id <e56891FsschU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
>Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>>>
>>>>> From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
>>>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
>>>>>
>>>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
>>>>> and the bankers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
>>>>>
>>>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
>>>>> the 20th.
>>>>>
>>>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
>>>>> puzzle.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
>>>>> from further destruction.
>>>>>
>>>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
>>>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
>>>>>
>>>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
>>>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
>>>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
>>>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
>>>
>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>>> importance as Naziism.
>>>
>>> TH
>>
>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
>> psychopaths.
>>
>
>Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>
>The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
No, it isn't.
>
>The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
>
>Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
>
>Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
>society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
>
>This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
>the same age as Hitler and also gay.
>
>Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
>
>Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
>
>So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
>
>The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
>got a false beard and the hair painted.
>
>He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
>was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
>Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
>
>The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
>grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
>
>The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
>real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
>of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
>
>Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
>'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
>Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
>paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
>
>Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
>a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
>Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
>her kids.
>
>And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
>similar to Winifried's friend.
>
>Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
>had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
>what is actually a death symbol.
>
>Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
>the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
>
>There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
>'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
>
>In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
>
>'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
>'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
>hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
>
>To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
>linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
>activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
>to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
>
>In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
>be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
>British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
>for Human Relations').
>
>Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
>Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
>since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
>could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
>
>The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
>side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
>aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
>
>It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
>Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
>
>(Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
>Tavistock Square.)
>
>But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
>British aristocracy.
>
>So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
>
>Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
>that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
>who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
>'capitalists'.
>
>Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
>long as Briton stays a monarchy.
>
>
>TH
>
You find one under every rock don't you?
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard.
Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
guaranteed above average income for every person.
Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.
If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-09-30 02:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ij3subh2j85rs0rgnpjgbtifmefog3rt7m@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #598925 |
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 02:54:49 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
>On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 06:33:29 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
>alt.atheism with message-id <e56891FsschU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
>
>>Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
>>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de> in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>>>>
>>>>>> From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
>>>>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
>>>>>> and the bankers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
>>>>>> the 20th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
>>>>>> puzzle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
>>>>>> from further destruction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
>>>>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
>>>>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
>>>>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
>>>>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
>>>>
>>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>>>> importance as Naziism.
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>
>>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
>>> psychopaths.
>>>
>>
>>Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>>
>>The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
>
>No, it isn't.
>
>>
>>The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
>>
>>Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
>>
>>Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
>>society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
>>
>>This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
>>the same age as Hitler and also gay.
>>
>>Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
>>
>>Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
>>
>>So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
>>
>>The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
>>got a false beard and the hair painted.
>>
>>He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
>>was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
>>Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
>>
>>The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
>>grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
>>
>>The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
>>real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
>>of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
>>
>>Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
>>'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
>>Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
>>paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
>>
>>Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
>>a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
>>Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
>>her kids.
>>
>>And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
>>similar to Winifried's friend.
>>
>>Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
>>had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
>>what is actually a death symbol.
>>
>>Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
>>the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
>>
>>There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
>>'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
>>
>>In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
>>
>>'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
>>'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
>>hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
>>
>>To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
>>linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
>>activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
>>to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
>>
>>In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
>>be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
>>British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
>>for Human Relations').
>>
>>Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
>>Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
>>since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
>>could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
>>
>>The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
>>side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
>>aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
>>
>>It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
>>Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
>>
>>(Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
>>Tavistock Square.)
>>
>>But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
>>British aristocracy.
>>
>>So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
>>
>>Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
>>that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
>>who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
>>'capitalists'.
>>
>>Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
>>long as Briton stays a monarchy.
>>
>>
>>TH
>>
>
>You find one under every rock don't you?
He's insane.
And none of his lies are relevant in any of the groups where he posted
them.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-09-30 11:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57EEAC24.54AF@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #598929 |
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 02:54:49 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 06:33:29 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
> >alt.atheism with message-id <e56891FsschU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
> >>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de> in
> >>> alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
> >>>>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
> >>>>>> and the bankers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
> >>>>>> the 20th.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
> >>>>>> puzzle.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
> >>>>>> from further destruction.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
> >>>>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
> >>>>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
> >>>>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
> >>>>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
> >>>>
> >>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
> >>>> importance as Naziism.
> >>>>
> >>>> TH
> >>>
> >>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
> >>> psychopaths.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
> >>
> >>The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
> >
> >No, it isn't.
> >
> >>
> >>The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
> >>
> >>Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
> >>
> >>Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
> >>society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
> >>
> >>This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
> >>the same age as Hitler and also gay.
> >>
> >>Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
> >>
> >>Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
> >>
> >>So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
> >>
> >>The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
> >>got a false beard and the hair painted.
> >>
> >>He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
> >>was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
> >>Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
> >>
> >>The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
> >>grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
> >>
> >>The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
> >>real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
> >>of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
> >>
> >>Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
> >>'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
> >>Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
> >>paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
> >>
> >>Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
> >>a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
> >>Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
> >>her kids.
> >>
> >>And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
> >>similar to Winifried's friend.
> >>
> >>Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
> >>had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
> >>what is actually a death symbol.
> >>
> >>Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
> >>the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
> >>
> >>There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
> >>'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
> >>
> >>In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
> >>
> >>'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
> >>'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
> >>hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
> >>
> >>To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
> >>linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
> >>activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
> >>to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
> >>
> >>In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
> >>be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
> >>British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
> >>for Human Relations').
> >>
> >>Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
> >>Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
> >>since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
> >>could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
> >>
> >>The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
> >>side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
> >>aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
> >>
> >>It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
> >>Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
> >>
> >>(Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
> >>Tavistock Square.)
> >>
> >>But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
> >>British aristocracy.
> >>
> >>So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
> >>
> >>Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
> >>that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
> >>who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
> >>'capitalists'.
> >>
> >>Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
> >>long as Briton stays a monarchy.
> >>
> >>
> >>TH
> >>
> >
> >You find one under every rock don't you?
>
> He's insane.
>
> And none of his lies are relevant in any of the groups where he posted
> them.
sez the witch...i bet you got a wart on your nose...i mean big nose..i
mean a wart on your big nose..i mean a big wart on your nose..i mean
pants on fire too.
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-09-30 14:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <3udtub56jq3j58ta7sfif63vhqbs21a24r@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #598969 |
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:17:08 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 02:54:49 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 06:33:29 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in
>> >alt.atheism with message-id <e56891FsschU1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Am 18.09.2016 21:06, schrieb Attila <:
>> >>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 20:14:35 +0200, Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de> in
>> >>> alt.atheism with message-id<e483sgFlf63U1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Am 18.09.2016 08:24, schrieb Jeanne Douglas:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> From the theoretical side Nazis had roots in certain ideologies and ideas.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The ideas stem from theoreticians like Arthur de Gobineau, who himself
>> >>>>>> based his ideas on Darwin.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> And Darwin was apparently supported by (British) aristocracy, the Guilds
>> >>>>>> and the bankers.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Apparently this was according to plan and to something called an 'agenda'.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> And this agenda had not begun in the 19th century, nor had it ended in
>> >>>>>> the 20th.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> But apparently the Nazis and their wars were just a piece in a larger
>> >>>>>> puzzle.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> It is now essential to identify this agenda, to prevent its perpetrators
>> >>>>>> from further destruction.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The method is called 'reverse engineering'. This means, that unknown
>> >>>>>> systems are reinvented from what is known about them.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If simulation and real system behave somehow similar, the real system
>> >>>>>> can be modelled with a simulation. That would make it possible to find
>> >>>>>> out, who did what in these evil plans.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> And yet again you fail to provide even the slightest evidence that any
>> >>>>> of this had anything to do with Darwin.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ok, actually I don't know, what Darwin had in mind.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political
>> >>>> importance as Naziism.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> TH
>> >>>
>> >>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of
>> >>> psychopaths.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism).
>> >>
>> >>The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'.
>> >
>> >No, it isn't.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>The head of the Eugenics society was Julian Huxley.
>> >>
>> >>Head of the Fabian socialists was Bertrand Russel.
>> >>
>> >>Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russel were both members of the secret
>> >>society 'The apostles' of Cambridge, together with Ludwig Wittgenstein.
>> >>
>> >>This is interesting, since Wittgenstein was at the same school and of
>> >>the same age as Hitler and also gay.
>> >>
>> >>Most likely they have known each other and were 'friends'.
>> >>
>> >>Now Aldous Huxley and Adolf Hitler share this 'A. H.' initials.
>> >>
>> >>So kind of 'joke' would be possible, if a spy needs a false identity.
>> >>
>> >>The real identity of that spy was (in my eyes) Noel Trevenen Huxley. He
>> >>got a false beard and the hair painted.
>> >>
>> >>He started his training in Bavaria in the house of Isolde Beidler, who
>> >>was the daughter of Richard Wagner. (Hitler actually lived officially at
>> >>Prinzregentenplatz 16 in Munich.)
>> >>
>> >>The connection to Darwin was Thomas Huxley ('Darwins Bulldog'),
>> >>grandfather of the Huxley brothers.
>> >>
>> >>The connection to the Wagner family was Lord Redescale. This was the
>> >>real father of Clementine Hozier (Churchill's wife) and the grandfather
>> >>of Unity Midfort (Hitler's girlfriend).
>> >>
>> >>Son in Law of Richard Wagner was Houston Steward Chamberlain. He was the
>> >>'hub' of Bavarian Naziism and allegedly the real author of 'My
>> >>Struggle'. Forewords to his pamphlet wrote said Lord Redescale, who also
>> >>paid for printing. He also translated the books into English.
>> >>
>> >>Then we have Marjorie Winifried Williams (aka Winifried Wagner), who was
>> >>a close friend of Adolf Hitler. Her husband was the gay son of Richard
>> >>Wagner. So we would need to search for a candidate for the fatherhood of
>> >>her kids.
>> >>
>> >>And we don't need to search very far, since e.g. Friedelind looks quite
>> >>similar to Winifried's friend.
>> >>
>> >>Lord Redescale was the owner of a gold-mine in Swastika, Canada. This
>> >>had as logo the real Nazi swastika (the inverted Hindu wheel of life),
>> >>what is actually a death symbol.
>> >>
>> >>Other hints to British involvement in the creation of Naziism are e.g.
>> >>the similarity between British uniforms in 2nd Boer War to those of the SA.
>> >>
>> >>There they have invented 'concentration camps'. The German word
>> >>'Konzentrationslager' is now a (bad) literal translation of this word.
>> >>
>> >>In German you would say 'Sammellager'.
>> >>
>> >>'To concentrate' means 'sammeln' in German. The German word
>> >>'konzentrieren' is inappropriate, since it means something like 'think
>> >>hard about a certain subject' or ' make a chemical solution thicker'.
>> >>
>> >>To call 'herding people together' 'konzentrieren' comes from the
>> >>linguistic picture, which is used in the English language for the
>> >>activity of collecting (puling together). German uses a picture similar
>> >>to 'picking things up' (sammeln).
>> >>
>> >>In this circumstances I have found, that the book 'Mein Kampf' seems to
>> >>be a translation of an English script, created somewhere inside the
>> >>British Intelligence (possibly Chamberlain or the 'Tavistock Institute
>> >>for Human Relations').
>> >>
>> >>Also the so called Hitler diaries seem to be scripts, created by the
>> >>Tavistock Institute ('Scriptwriters of the Brave New World Order'),
>> >>since the books carry the sign. 'F.H.' (in Old English Gothic), which
>> >>could stand for 'Freud Hilton' and that for this institute.
>> >>
>> >>The other stream of support for Naziism stems from the collectivism
>> >>side, called 'socialism'. This had as main roots other British
>> >>aristocrats, especially Sir Bertrand Russel.
>> >>
>> >>It is certainly just coincidence, that the Lords of Tavistock have been
>> >>Russels and that Swastika in Canada is located in the county Tavistock.
>> >>
>> >>(Maybe it is also just coincidence that one of the 7/7 bombs went of at
>> >>Tavistock Square.)
>> >>
>> >>But socialism in total seems to originate in Britain and especially in
>> >>British aristocracy.
>> >>
>> >>So why in the world would British Lords promote socialism?
>> >>
>> >>Well, it's all about money and how to extract money from the people. And
>> >>that's what aristocrats are supposed to do. And it's about an 'elite',
>> >>who had to defend privileges against competition by non-appointed
>> >>'capitalists'.
>> >>
>> >>Turning Europe upside down for this purpose was not their concern, as
>> >>long as Briton stays a monarchy.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>TH
>> >>
>> >
>> >You find one under every rock don't you?
>>
>> He's insane.
>>
>> And none of his lies are relevant in any of the groups where he posted
>> them.
>
>
>
>sez the witch...i bet you got a wart on your nose...i mean big nose..i
>mean a wart on your big nose..i mean a big wart on your nose..i mean
>
>pants on fire too.
And you're just as mentally ill.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 23:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <t9auub9j79q9k2j3849ltshkt8ljul2fno@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #598969 |
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:17:08 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <57EEAC24.54AF@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> He's insane. >> >> And none of his lies are relevant in any of the groups where he posted >> them. > > > >sez the witch...i bet you got a wart on your nose...i mean big nose..i >mean a wart on your big nose..i mean a big wart on your nose..i mean > >pants on fire too. Quite the intellectual isn't he? -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 08:52 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <e594ppFj81dU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #598925 |
Am 30.09.2016 08:54, schrieb Attila <: >>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political >>>> importance as Naziism. >>>> >>>> TH >>> >>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of >>> psychopaths. >>> >> >> Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism). >> >> The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'. > > No, it isn't. Well, actually you are correct. 'Nazi' is an abbreviation for 'National Socialist'. This stems from German and was meant as opposition to 'Sozi'. 'Sozi' stems from 'Sozialdemokrat' (social democrat). SPD (Sozis) had fought their enemies (Nazis) in the streets of Berlin in the 1920th. Finally the Nazis had won (with a little help from Wall Street). Anyhow.. The Nazi-party had the real Name 'Nationalsozialistische Arbeiter Partei Deutschland' (national-socialist workers party of Germany). They were actually not very nationalistic, but 'race-chauvinistic'. The idea of 'Aryans' came from French Count August de Gobineau, who wrote a race-chauvinistic manifesto. This was supported by the British author Houston Steward Chamberlain, son in Law of an Italian baroness. Till then there were no Germans involved, till Hitler came (Austrian) and Henry Ford (author of 'The International Jew'). Hitler's girlfriend was English again (Unity Midfort). So these guys were everything else but German nationalists. They were elitists, racists and internationalists. Their agenda was nothing in support of the country Germany or the workers there. These were in both cases just 'cannon fodder'. And definitely they were not workers. What they had in mind was 'collectivism' (=Socialism). The idea behind collectivism is, that the state could try to create a 'super-human', if all the people unite into one single entity, which thinks and acts like one being (the SUPERMAN). This did work somehow, but caused unwanted effects (like genocide, war, theft of colossal proportions, invasions and a few other). So collectivism did not work, nor did actually racism. 'Racism' is in fact based on Darwin's flawed concept of evolution, because the 'cleaners of the race' (Eugenics) tried to enhance the power of the collective, by eliminating unwanted members of the society. They believed, that races emerge in a few centuries and therefore killing sick people would make the rest fitter in case of reproduction. This is somehow possible, but only if you believe in Lamarkism, which states, that acquired features could be inherited. But Darwin said, this is not possible. So only the genes decide, who someone is or could become (what is wrong!). So killing unfit people would strengthen the 'race'. Only this is evil blunder from beginning to end. TH
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 05:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <h2uuub1g32q99njvlglbe1cnefd26qfkn4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #599021 |
On Sat, 01 Oct 2016 08:52:38 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in alt.atheism with message-id <e594ppFj81dU1@mid.individual.net> wrote: >Am 30.09.2016 08:54, schrieb Attila <: > >>>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political >>>>> importance as Naziism. >>>>> >>>>> TH >>>> >>>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of >>>> psychopaths. >>>> >>> >>> Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism). >>> >>> The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'. >> >> No, it isn't. > >Well, actually you are correct. Then why did you say it? > >'Nazi' is an abbreviation for 'National Socialist'. National German Socialist Workers Party. Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei > >This stems from German and was meant as opposition to 'Sozi'. > >'Sozi' stems from 'Sozialdemokrat' (social democrat). > >SPD (Sozis) had fought their enemies (Nazis) in the streets of Berlin in >the 1920th. > >Finally the Nazis had won (with a little help from Wall Street). I doubt "Wall Street" was even aware of them. Whatever "Wall Street" is. > >Anyhow.. > >The Nazi-party had the real Name 'Nationalsozialistische Arbeiter Partei >Deutschland' (national-socialist workers party of Germany). > >They were actually not very nationalistic, but 'race-chauvinistic'. > >The idea of 'Aryans' came from French Count August de Gobineau, who >wrote a race-chauvinistic manifesto. > >This was supported by the British author Houston Steward Chamberlain, >son in Law of an Italian baroness. > >Till then there were no Germans involved, till Hitler came (Austrian) >and Henry Ford (author of 'The International Jew'). > >Hitler's girlfriend was English again (Unity Midfort). > >So these guys were everything else but German nationalists. > >They were elitists, racists and internationalists. > >Their agenda was nothing in support of the country Germany or the >workers there. These were in both cases just 'cannon fodder'. > >And definitely they were not workers. > >What they had in mind was 'collectivism' (=Socialism). > >The idea behind collectivism is, that the state could try to create a >'super-human', if all the people unite into one single entity, which >thinks and acts like one being (the SUPERMAN). > >This did work somehow, but caused unwanted effects (like genocide, war, >theft of colossal proportions, invasions and a few other). > >So collectivism did not work, nor did actually racism. > >'Racism' is in fact based on Darwin's flawed concept of evolution, >because the 'cleaners of the race' (Eugenics) tried to enhance the power >of the collective, by eliminating unwanted members of the society. > >They believed, that races emerge in a few centuries and therefore >killing sick people would make the rest fitter in case of reproduction. > >This is somehow possible, but only if you believe in Lamarkism, which >states, that acquired features could be inherited. > >But Darwin said, this is not possible. So only the genes decide, who >someone is or could become (what is wrong!). So killing unfit people >would strengthen the 'race'. > >Only this is evil blunder from beginning to end. > > >TH I am not bothering with that rambling Conspiracy Theory nonsense. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-10-02 07:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <e5bktjF72cgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #599029 |
Am 01.10.2016 11:00, schrieb Attila <: >>>>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political >>>>>> importance as Naziism. >>>>>> >>>>>> TH >>>>> >>>>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of >>>>> psychopaths. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism). >>>> >>>> The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'. >>> >>> No, it isn't. >> >> Well, actually you are correct. > > Then why did you say it? It is not the same thing, but has actually the same concept: racism, meant as alleged of superiority of the white settlers. (which 'allowed' them to rape, plunder and kill) >> >> 'Nazi' is an abbreviation for 'National Socialist'. > > National German Socialist Workers Party. The party itself was not called 'Nazi'. 'Nazi' was the nickname for the followers of the Nazi-movement. Since the party 'NSDAP' did not take everybody, who wanted to, the party-members were the 'elite' of the Nazis. But a lot of other supporters were also called 'Nazis', like the members of the 'SS', 'SA', 'BDM' or 'HJ'. >> >> This stems from German and was meant as opposition to 'Sozi'. >> >> 'Sozi' stems from 'Sozialdemokrat' (social democrat). >> >> SPD (Sozis) had fought their enemies (Nazis) in the streets of Berlin in >> the 1920th. >> >> Finally the Nazis had won (with a little help from Wall Street). > > I doubt "Wall Street" was even aware of them. Whatever "Wall Street" > is. Look at 'Anthony Suton, "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler"' Naziism had also roots in Italy, England, Canada and in the USA. Forerunners of the German Nazi movement were the so called 'Silver shirts' of the USA and the black-shirts of Italy. In the USA we had also the 'Kuhn party' and several other racists groups. The so called 'Hitler salute' was actually derived from the 'pledge of allegiance' in US schools, which was invented by the US socialists Francis and Edward Bellamy. 'Hitler Youth' seems to be a carbon copy of the Boy Scouts and the SA uniforms look like derived from British uniforms in the 2nd Boer war. Btw: 'fascism' comes from 'fasces' and those are these things, where Abraham Lincoln rests his arms on in Lincoln Memorial. 'Fascism' as political system is the mixture of political power with oligarchal capitalism as privatised dictatorship (='corporatism'). TH
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-10-02 02:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5s91vb1cgfuqh8oiuscehi7obav5dtd51k@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #599106 |
On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:39:59 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> in alt.atheism with message-id <e5bktjF72cgU1@mid.individual.net> wrote: >Am 01.10.2016 11:00, schrieb Attila <: > >>>>>>> But Darwin as a person is not as interesting and of such political >>>>>>> importance as Naziism. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TH >>>>>> >>>>>> Darwin is much more interesting and influential than a bunch of >>>>>> psychopaths. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Darwinism is a central part of Naziism (the other is socialism). >>>>> >>>>> The English word for Naziism is 'Eugenics'. >>>> >>>> No, it isn't. >>> >>> Well, actually you are correct. >> >> Then why did you say it? > > >It is not the same thing, but has actually the same concept: > >racism, meant as alleged of superiority of the white settlers. > >(which 'allowed' them to rape, plunder and kill) Every society has had a sub-class. > >>> >>> 'Nazi' is an abbreviation for 'National Socialist'. >> >> National German Socialist Workers Party. > > >The party itself was not called 'Nazi'. > >'Nazi' was the nickname for the followers of the Nazi-movement. > >Since the party 'NSDAP' did not take everybody, who wanted to, the >party-members were the 'elite' of the Nazis. > >But a lot of other supporters were also called 'Nazis', like the members >of the 'SS', 'SA', 'BDM' or 'HJ'. Part of the Party. > > >>> >>> This stems from German and was meant as opposition to 'Sozi'. >>> >>> 'Sozi' stems from 'Sozialdemokrat' (social democrat). >>> >>> SPD (Sozis) had fought their enemies (Nazis) in the streets of Berlin in >>> the 1920th. >>> >>> Finally the Nazis had won (with a little help from Wall Street). >> >> I doubt "Wall Street" was even aware of them. Whatever "Wall Street" >> is. >Look at 'Anthony Suton, "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler"' > >Naziism had also roots in Italy, England, Canada and in the USA. > >Forerunners of the German Nazi movement were the so called 'Silver >shirts' of the USA and the black-shirts of Italy. > >In the USA we had also the 'Kuhn party' and several other racists groups. > >The so called 'Hitler salute' was actually derived from the 'pledge of >allegiance' in US schools, which was invented by the US socialists >Francis and Edward Bellamy. Actually it goes back to Rome. > >'Hitler Youth' seems to be a carbon copy of the Boy Scouts and the SA >uniforms look like derived from British uniforms in the 2nd Boer war. > >Btw: 'fascism' comes from 'fasces' and those are these things, where >Abraham Lincoln rests his arms on in Lincoln Memorial. > >'Fascism' as political system is the mixture of political power with >oligarchal capitalism as privatised dictatorship (='corporatism'). > > > >TH -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor OBastard. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2016-10-02 11:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnv1t9n.oqe.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #599109 |
Attila wrote: > Thomas Heger wrote: ----snip---- > > The so called 'Hitler salute' was actually derived from the > > 'pledge of allegiance' in US schools, which was invented by > > the US socialists Francis and Edward Bellamy. > > Actually it goes back to Rome. So some say. But there's no evidence for ir; in fact, it looks a lot like an attempt to deflect sone of the ignominy from the USA. Ned
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