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How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?

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First post2015-08-09 20:04 -0500
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  How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 20:04 -0500
    Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-09 20:35 -0500
      light, waves thereof noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 11:37 -0700
    Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 01:33 -0400
    Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 10:05 -0700
      Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-10 10:17 -0700
    Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 18:48 -0500
      Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-07 00:43 +0000
        Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 19:49 -0500
          Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-07 01:34 +0000
            Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 21:01 -0500
              Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-07 03:25 +0000
                Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 11:55 -0500
                  Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-07 17:10 +0000
                    Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 12:27 -0500
                      Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-07 17:54 +0000
              Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-06 22:53 -0500
                Re: How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 06:15 -0500
                Re: Rocky expands his kookery jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-07 05:59 +0000

#512291 — How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-09 20:04 -0500
SubjectHow can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?
Message-ID<ld6dnYLFWIkwZVrInZ2dnUU7-bWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?
> http://www.askamathematician.com/2014/03/q-how-can-the-universe-expand-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/

> Physicist: You’ll often hear that “the universe is expanding faster
> than the speed of light”.  However, this statement is akin to
> statements like “green is bigger than happy”.  It’s not even wrong.
>
> There are two big things to remember about the expansion of the
> universe.  First, the universe doesn’t expand at a particular speed,
> it expands at a speed per distance.  Right now it’s about 70
> kilometers per second per megaparsec.  That means that galaxies that
> are about 1 megaparsec (1 parsec = 3 lightyears and change) away are
> presently getting farther away at the rate of 70 km every second, on
> average.  Galaxies that are 2 megaparsecs away are presently getting
> father away at the rate of 140 km every second, on average.
>



> It’s a little subtle (“subtle” = “math heavy”), but there are a
> number of phenomena that allow astronomers to clearly tell the
> difference between things “moving away” and things “expanding away”
> from us.  For example, beyond a certain distance galaxies no longer
> get smaller (the way things that are moving away should), instead
> they get redder and stay about the same size independent of distance,
> due to a lensing effect of the expansion.  Isn’t that weird?



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#512299

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-09 20:35 -0500
Message-ID<mq8v4t$15m$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#512291
On 8/9/2015 8:04 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?
>> http://www.askamathematician.com/2014/03/q-how-can-the-universe-expand-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/
>>
>
>> Physicist: You’ll often hear that “the universe is expanding faster
>> than the speed of light”.  However, this statement is akin to
>> statements like “green is bigger than happy”.  It’s not even wrong.



           this guy is just goofy

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#512474 — light, waves thereof

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-10 11:37 -0700
Subjectlight, waves thereof
Message-ID<bfa88f14-ee86-4026-8ddc-70355e960026@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#512299
happy is a lot smaller than greeN (your teaM

> >> statements like "green is bigger than happy".  It's not even wrong.
> 
> 
> 
>            this guy is just goofy

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#512340

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-10 01:33 -0400
Message-ID<gIWxx.27364$bg4.1546@fx29.iad>
In reply to#512291
On 08/09/2015 09:04 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?
>> http://www.askamathematician.com/2014/03/q-how-can-the-universe-expand-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/
>>
>
>> Physicist: You’ll often hear that “the universe is expanding faster
>> than the speed of light”.  However, this statement is akin to
>> statements like “green is bigger than happy”.  It’s not even wrong.
>>
>> There are two big things to remember about the expansion of the
>> universe.  First, the universe doesn’t expand at a particular speed,
>> it expands at a speed per distance.  Right now it’s about 70
>> kilometers per second per megaparsec.  That means that galaxies that
>> are about 1 megaparsec (1 parsec = 3 lightyears and change) away are
>> presently getting farther away at the rate of 70 km every second, on
>> average.  Galaxies that are 2 megaparsecs away are presently getting
>> father away at the rate of 140 km every second, on average.
>>
>
>
>
>> It’s a little subtle (“subtle” = “math heavy”), but there are a
>> number of phenomena that allow astronomers to clearly tell the
>> difference between things “moving away” and things “expanding away”
>> from us.  For example, beyond a certain distance galaxies no longer
>> get smaller (the way things that are moving away should), instead
>> they get redder and stay about the same size independent of distance,
>> due to a lensing effect of the expansion.  Isn’t that weird?
>
>
>
Sam, Big Bang is pure Bullshit.



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#512428

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-10 10:05 -0700
Message-ID<6af28f5c-0414-4d0b-8029-a0a8d86d87f7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#512291
On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 6:04:52 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?
> > http://www.askamathematician.com/2014/03/q-how-can-the-universe-expand-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/
> 
> > Physicist: You'll often hear that "the universe is expanding faster
> > than the speed of light".  However, this statement is akin to
> > statements like "green is bigger than happy".  It's not even wrong.
> >
> > There are two big things to remember about the expansion of the
> > universe.  First, the universe doesn't expand at a particular speed,
> > it expands at a speed per distance.  Right now it's about 70
> > kilometers per second per megaparsec.  That means that galaxies that
> > are about 1 megaparsec (1 parsec = 3 lightyears and change) away are
> > presently getting farther away at the rate of 70 km every second, on
> > average.  Galaxies that are 2 megaparsecs away are presently getting
> > father away at the rate of 140 km every second, on average.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> > It's a little subtle ("subtle" = "math heavy"), but there are a
> > number of phenomena that allow astronomers to clearly tell the
> > difference between things "moving away" and things "expanding away"
> > from us.  For example, beyond a certain distance galaxies no longer
> > get smaller (the way things that are moving away should), instead
> > they get redder and stay about the same size independent of distance,
> > due to a lensing effect of the expansion.  Isn't that weird?
> 
> 
> 
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Sam not wierd but reality. Its the raisen bread theory TreBert

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#512433

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2015-08-10 10:17 -0700
Message-ID<mqamhs$6dq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#512428
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> Swine Glazier "reber g=emc^2" wrote
"reality is the raisen bread theory" which Cretin Glazier made from
Bert's Shit and Glazierola

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#519434

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-06 18:48 -0500
Message-ID<BpidnZUfQIhLTXHInZ2dnUU7-cednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#512291
On 8/9/15 8:04 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?
>> http://www.askamathematician.com/2014/03/q-how-can-the-universe-expand-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/
>>
>
>> Physicist: You’ll often hear that “the universe is expanding faster
>> than the speed of light”.  However, this statement is akin to
>> statements like “green is bigger than happy”.  It’s not even wrong.
>>
>> There are two big things to remember about the expansion of the
>> universe.  First, the universe doesn’t expand at a particular speed,
>> it expands at a speed per distance.  Right now it’s about 70
>> kilometers per second per megaparsec.  That means that galaxies that
>> are about 1 megaparsec (1 parsec = 3 lightyears and change) away are
>> presently getting farther away at the rate of 70 km every second, on
>> average.  Galaxies that are 2 megaparsecs away are presently getting
>> father away at the rate of 140 km every second, on average.
>>
>
>
>
>> It’s a little subtle (“subtle” = “math heavy”), but there are a
>> number of phenomena that allow astronomers to clearly tell the
>> difference between things “moving away” and things “expanding away”
>> from us.  For example, beyond a certain distance galaxies no longer
>> get smaller (the way things that are moving away should), instead
>> they get redder and stay about the same size independent of distance,
>> due to a lensing effect of the expansion.  Isn’t that weird?
>
>
>

   This is worth looking at in detail.

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#519445

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-07 00:43 +0000
Message-ID<b63vbc-6f5.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#519434
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/9/15 8:04 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?

>   This is worth looking at in detail.

Only if you went to school in a one room school in some backwater like
Iowa with a sign on the front reading "Skull Hose".

 

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#519446

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-06 19:49 -0500
Message-ID<BpidnZQfQIhjQ3HInZ2dnUU7-cednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#519445
On 9/6/15 7:43 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 8/9/15 8:04 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?
>
>>    This is worth looking at in detail.
>
> Only if you went to school in a one room school in some backwater like
> Iowa with a sign on the front reading "Skull Hose".
>

   Newton No. 6 Hammer school -- one room, good teacher.


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#519459

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-07 01:34 +0000
Message-ID<a66vbc-1r5.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#519446
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/6/15 7:43 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/9/15 8:04 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>> How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?
>>
>>>    This is worth looking at in detail.
>>
>> Only if you went to school in a one room school in some backwater like
>> Iowa with a sign on the front reading "Skull Hose".
>>
> 
>   Newton No. 6 Hammer school -- one room, good teacher.
 
Might have been, but a shit head for a student.
 

-- 
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#519462

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-06 21:01 -0500
Message-ID<ef-dnb6wwZBtcnHInZ2dnUU7-c2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#519459
On 9/6/15 8:34 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
> Might have been, but a shit head for a student.
>

   Now, now jimp--are you always so nasty, angry and mean spirited?
   Rancho Cucamonga Anger Management Classes
> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes

   Shall I make an appointment for you, jimp?

   How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?
> http://www.askamathematician.com/2014/03/q-how-can-the-universe-expand-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/

 > Physicist: You’ll often hear that “the universe is expanding faster
 > than the speed of light”.  However, this statement is akin to
 > statements like “green is bigger than happy”.  It’s not even wrong.
 >
 > There are two big things to remember about the expansion of the
 > universe.  First, the universe doesn’t expand at a particular speed,
 > it expands at a speed per distance.  Right now it’s about 70
 > kilometers per second per megaparsec.  That means that galaxies that
 > are about 1 megaparsec (1 parsec = 3 lightyears and change) away are
 > presently getting farther away at the rate of 70 km every second, on
 > average.  Galaxies that are 2 megaparsecs away are presently getting
 > father away at the rate of 140 km every second, on average.

 > It’s a little subtle (“subtle” = “math heavy”), but there are a
 > number of phenomena that allow astronomers to clearly tell the
 > difference between things “moving away” and things “expanding away”
 > from us.  For example, beyond a certain distance galaxies no longer
 > get smaller (the way things that are moving away should), instead
 > they get redder and stay about the same size independent of distance,
 > due to a lensing effect of the expansion.  Isn’t that weird?


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#519475

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-07 03:25 +0000
Message-ID<imcvbc-kf6.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#519462
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/6/15 8:34 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>> Might have been, but a shit head for a student.
>>
> 
>   Now, now jimp

Now, now, ass hole, fuck off and die.


-- 
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#519558

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-07 11:55 -0500
Message-ID<zdCdnWOzL9znXHDInZ2dnUU7-XOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#519475
On 9/6/15 10:25 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Now, now, ass hole, fuck off and die.


   Wow, jimp--Such out of control anger!  Whoo!
   See: Rancho Cucamonga Anger Management Classes
> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes

   How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?
> http://www.askamathematician.com/2014/03/q-how-can-the-universe-expand-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/

 > Physicist: You’ll often hear that “the universe is expanding faster
 > than the speed of light”.  However, this statement is akin to
 > statements like “green is bigger than happy”.  It’s not even wrong.
 >
 > There are two big things to remember about the expansion of the
 > universe.  First, the universe doesn’t expand at a particular speed,
 > it expands at a speed per distance.  Right now it’s about 70
 > kilometers per second per megaparsec.  That means that galaxies that
 > are about 1 megaparsec (1 parsec = 3 lightyears and change) away are
 > presently getting farther away at the rate of 70 km every second, on
 > average.  Galaxies that are 2 megaparsecs away are presently getting
 > father away at the rate of 140 km every second, on average.
 >
 > It’s a little subtle (“subtle” = “math heavy”), but there are a
 > number of phenomena that allow astronomers to clearly tell the
 > difference between things “moving away” and things “expanding away”
 > from us.  For example, beyond a certain distance galaxies no longer
 > get smaller (the way things that are moving away should), instead
 > they get redder and stay about the same size independent of distance,
 > due to a lensing effect of the expansion.  Isn’t that weird?


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#519576

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-07 17:10 +0000
Message-ID<e1t0cc-gmb.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#519558
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/6/15 10:25 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Now, now, ass hole, fuck off and die.
> 
> 
>   Wow, jimp

Wow ass hole, the same cut and paste nonsense again.

Fuck off and die a painfull lingering death, ass hole.


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#519584

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-07 12:27 -0500
Message-ID<zdCdnZeyL9yPVHDInZ2dnUU7-XOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#519576
On 9/7/15 12:10 PM, Nasty Name-calling jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Fuck off and die a painfull lingering death, ass hole.


   My, my, jimp--Such out of control anger!  Get help!
   See: Rancho Cucamonga Anger Management Classes
> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes

   How can the universe expand faster than the speed of light?
> http://www.askamathematician.com/2014/03/q-how-can-the-universe-expand-faster-than-the-speed-of-light/

 > Physicist: You’ll often hear that “the universe is expanding faster
 > than the speed of light”.  However, this statement is akin to
 > statements like “green is bigger than happy”.  It’s not even wrong.
 >
 > There are two big things to remember about the expansion of the
 > universe.  First, the universe doesn’t expand at a particular speed,
 > it expands at a speed per distance.  Right now it’s about 70
 > kilometers per second per megaparsec.  That means that galaxies that
 > are about 1 megaparsec (1 parsec = 3 lightyears and change) away are
 > presently getting farther away at the rate of 70 km every second, on
 > average.  Galaxies that are 2 megaparsecs away are presently getting
 > father away at the rate of 140 km every second, on average.
 >
 > It’s a little subtle (“subtle” = “math heavy”), but there are a
 > number of phenomena that allow astronomers to clearly tell the
 > difference between things “moving away” and things “expanding away”
 > from us.  For example, beyond a certain distance galaxies no longer
 > get smaller (the way things that are moving away should), instead
 > they get redder and stay about the same size independent of distance,
 > due to a lensing effect of the expansion.  Isn’t that weird?



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#519600

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-07 17:54 +0000
Message-ID<gkv0cc-60c.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#519584
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/7/15 12:10 PM, Nasty Name-calling jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Fuck off and die a painfull lingering death, ass hole.
> 
> 
>   My, my, jimp

My, my, the shit head spammer cut and pastes the same shit once again.


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#519479

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-09-06 22:53 -0500
Message-ID<--udnW6Ky-8LlHDInZ2dnUU7-TWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#519462
added alt.conspiracy
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:ef-dnb6wwZBtcnHInZ2dnUU7-c2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On 9/6/15 8:34 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>> Might have been, but a shit head for a student.
>>
>
>   Now, now jimp--are you always so nasty, angry and mean spirited?
>   Rancho Cucamonga Anger Management Classes
>> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes
>
>   Shall I make an appointment for you, jimp?

Please don't because jimp is just about to have another fantastic meltdown 
where he keep repeating the exact same shit over and over and over.

Rocky

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#519520

From"K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-07 06:15 -0500
Message-ID<bdsqua5gc3cd6o5ckhh1nb9qib50b8vn5i@4ax.com>
In reply to#519479
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 22:53:10 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>added alt.conspiracy
>"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:ef-dnb6wwZBtcnHInZ2dnUU7-c2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On 9/6/15 8:34 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Might have been, but a shit head for a student.
>>>
>>
>>   Now, now jimp--are you always so nasty, angry and mean spirited?
>>   Rancho Cucamonga Anger Management Classes
>>> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes
>>
>>   Shall I make an appointment for you, jimp?
>
>Please don't because jimp is just about to have another fantastic meltdown 
>where he keep repeating the exact same shit over and over and over.
>

     Are you claiming Jim pulled a "Rocky?"
     Pulling a Rocky is what we call it when someone keeps posting the
exact same thing over and over and over.

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#519531 — Re: Rocky expands his kookery

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-09-07 05:59 +0000
SubjectRe: Rocky expands his kookery
Message-ID<vnlvbc-pa7.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#519479
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
> added alt.conspiracy
> "Sam Wormley" <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:ef-dnb6wwZBtcnHInZ2dnUU7-c2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On 9/6/15 8:34 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Might have been, but a shit head for a student.
>>>
>>
>>   Now, now jimp--are you always so nasty, angry and mean spirited?
>>   Rancho Cucamonga Anger Management Classes
>>> http://www.yellowpages.com/rancho-cucamonga-ca/anger-management-classes
>>
>>   Shall I make an appointment for you, jimp?
> 
> Please don't because jimp is just about to have another fantastic meltdown 
> where he keep repeating the exact same shit over and over and over.

By that I assume you mean the truths your delusional mind just can't
accept, to wit:

The facts are some airliners were hijacked.

Two of them crashed into the World Trade Center towers, starting fires
which weakened the central support columns and the buildings collapesed
almost 2 hours later.

One of them crashed into the Pentagon causing a partial collapse of the
western side and one of them crashed into a field in Pennsylvania.

When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a unique seismic signature
that can be detected anywhere on the planet.

There were no nuclear seismic signatures detected on 9/11 but the 
collapse of the two towers as well as the plane crash at the Pentagon
and the crash in Pennsyvania were detected.

This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.

Everything else is kook babble.



-- 
Jim Pennino

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