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Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air

Started byJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
First post2016-02-27 18:30 -0800
Last post2016-03-08 10:01 -0800
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  Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 18:30 -0800
    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 20:40 -0600
      Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 18:56 -0800
        Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 12:52 -0600
          Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 12:38 -0800
            Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 15:04 -0600
              Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 13:47 -0800
                Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-28 16:05 -0600
                  Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 14:20 -0800
                    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 16:43 -0600
                    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-28 22:43 +0000
                    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-28 16:46 -0600
              Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 16:05 -0800
                Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 18:46 -0600
                  Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 16:58 -0800
                    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 19:07 -0600
                Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-03 00:51 +0000
            Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-28 21:33 +0000
              Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 13:59 -0800
                Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 14:36 -0800
                  Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-28 22:51 +0000
                Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-28 22:44 +0000
                  Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 14:53 -0800
                    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-28 23:48 +0000
                  Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 15:11 -0800
                    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 17:18 -0600
                      Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-28 23:51 +0000
                      Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 16:07 -0800
                        Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-28 18:13 -0600
                        Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 18:22 -0600
                          Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 16:28 -0800
                    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-28 23:49 +0000
          Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 15:59 -0800
            Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-03 00:12 +0000
              Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 16:18 -0800
                Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-03 00:52 +0000
              Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 08:54 -0800
    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 20:52 -0600
      Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 18:57 -0800
        Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-27 19:31 -0800
          Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 19:54 -0800
            Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-27 22:37 -0600
              Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 20:51 -0800
            Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-27 21:11 -0800
              Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 21:55 -0800
                Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-27 22:28 -0800
                  Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 23:08 -0800
                Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-28 19:21 -0600
    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-27 20:51 -0600
      Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 23:34 -0800
    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 21:18 -0800
      re, re, re noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 13:12 -0800
        Re: re, re, re James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 14:53 -0800
          Re: re, re, re Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 17:33 -0600
            Re: re, re, re James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 15:36 -0800
              Re: re, re, re jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-02 23:55 +0000
                Re: re, re, re Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 18:50 -0600
                Re: re, re, re James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 11:24 -0800
                  Re: re, re, re jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-05 19:35 +0000
          re de rain noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 11:37 -0800
            Re: re de rain James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 13:32 -0800
              Re: re de rain noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:22 -0800
          Re: re, re, re noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:20 -0800
            Re: re, re, re James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:29 -0800
    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air lipperf <pippinese@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 09:51 -0800
      Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 10:17 -0800
        Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air lipperf <pippinese@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 11:16 -0800
          Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 11:31 -0800
            Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air lipperf <pippinese@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 11:42 -0800
              Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 12:15 -0800
                Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air lipperf <pippinese@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 07:41 -0800
                  Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 08:42 -0800
                    Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air pippinese@gmail.com - 2016-03-08 09:22 -0800
                      Re: Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 10:01 -0800

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#557478

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-27 19:54 -0800
Message-ID<9244b1bc-38fc-4183-88f9-766823de77ab@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#557472
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 7:31:52 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:57:36 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:52:32 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > Density of Moist Air - an Air Vapor Mixture
> > > 
> > > > The amount of water vapor in air will influence the density. Water
> > > > vapor is a relatively light *gas* compared to diatomic Oxygen and
> > > > diatomic Nitrogen - the dominant components in air.
> > > >
> > > > When the vapor content increase in moist air the amount of Oxygen and
> > > > Nitrogen are decreased per unit volume and the density of the mix
> > > > will also decrease since the mass is decreasing.
> > > >
> > > > *Dry air is more dense that humid air* !
> > 
> > This tests for weight, not density.
> 
> But all along you have claimed that moist air is denser than dry air...

Not me.

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#557494

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-02-27 22:37 -0600
Message-ID<nattjo$1o4t$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#557478
On 2/27/2016 9:54 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 7:31:52 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:57:36 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:52:32 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>>> Density of Moist Air - an Air Vapor Mixture
>>>>
>>>>> The amount of water vapor in air will influence the density. Water
>>>>> vapor is a relatively light *gas* compared to diatomic Oxygen and
>>>>> diatomic Nitrogen - the dominant components in air.

>>>>> When the vapor content increase in moist air the amount of Oxygen and
>>>>> Nitrogen are decreased per unit volume and the density of the mix
>>>>> will also decrease since the mass is decreasing.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Dry air is more dense that humid air* !
>>>
>>> This tests for weight, not density.
>>
>> But all along you have claimed that moist air is denser than dry air...
>
> Not me.
>

Liar !   ... that is why you are in an institution!


what happened to your videos on you tube ?

why  did you take them down ?

was it the feedback ?

did people enjoy your advanced intellectualism ?

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#557498

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-27 20:51 -0800
Message-ID<bc189fdc-26ce-4631-aca6-043d92eaac23@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#557494
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 8:38:26 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
> On 2/27/2016 9:54 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 7:31:52 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:57:36 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:52:32 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> >>>>> Density of Moist Air - an Air Vapor Mixture
> >>>>
> >>>>> The amount of water vapor in air will influence the density. Water
> >>>>> vapor is a relatively light *gas* compared to diatomic Oxygen and
> >>>>> diatomic Nitrogen - the dominant components in air.
> 
> >>>>> When the vapor content increase in moist air the amount of Oxygen and
> >>>>> Nitrogen are decreased per unit volume and the density of the mix
> >>>>> will also decrease since the mass is decreasing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Dry air is more dense that humid air* !
> >>>
> >>> This tests for weight, not density.
> >>
> >> But all along you have claimed that moist air is denser than dry air...
> >
> > Not me.
> >
> 
> Liar !   ... that is why you are in an institution!
> 
> 
> what happened to your videos on you tube ?
> 
> why  did you take them down ?
> 
> was it the feedback ?
> 
> did people enjoy your advanced intellectualism ?

Maybe you could make a video about your problems with wetness.

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#557503

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2016-02-27 21:11 -0800
Message-ID<21b4883e-8294-4cd5-963c-feb86374a030@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#557478
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 7:54:56 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 7:31:52 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:57:36 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > > On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:52:32 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > > > Density of Moist Air - an Air Vapor Mixture
> > > > 
> > > > > The amount of water vapor in air will influence the density. Water
> > > > > vapor is a relatively light *gas* compared to diatomic Oxygen and
> > > > > diatomic Nitrogen - the dominant components in air.
> > > > >
> > > > > When the vapor content increase in moist air the amount of Oxygen and
> > > > > Nitrogen are decreased per unit volume and the density of the mix
> > > > > will also decrease since the mass is decreasing.
> > > > >
> > > > > *Dry air is more dense that humid air* !
> > > 
> > > This tests for weight, not density.
> > 
> > But all along you have claimed that moist air is denser than dry air...
> 
> Not me.

Well, yes, you did make that claim.

It makes no difference in any case, because when measuring equal volumes, the heavier is also the densest... after all, D=m/v

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#557506

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-27 21:55 -0800
Message-ID<2d1fab8c-1b2b-4f0f-b979-a3896c2f44af@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#557503
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 9:11:22 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:

> It makes no difference in any case, because when measuring equal volumes, the heavier is also the densest... after all, D=m/v

As you suggest, it can mean that.  But, as I've explained about 20 times now, it can also mean H2O/air.  In fact this is what meteorologists measure.   

The only question that remains is how many more fucking times will I have to explain this to you morons.

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#557509

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2016-02-27 22:28 -0800
Message-ID<526d948e-2a9b-4ab7-b164-2396a99e192d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#557506
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 9:55:42 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 9:11:22 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > It makes no difference in any case, because when measuring equal volumes, the heavier is also the densest... after all, D=m/v
> 
> As you suggest, it can mean that.  But, as I've explained about 20 times now, it can also mean H2O/air.  In fact this is what meteorologists measure.

But H2O/air is lighter than just air and not as dense (as long as the H2O is in the form of water vapor, of course)!   
 
> The only question that remains is how many more fucking times will I have to explain this to you morons.

But you haven't explained anything!

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#557510

FromSolving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-27 23:08 -0800
Message-ID<4ed913f4-0771-4c24-b22c-c33d26379cc6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#557509
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 10:28:32 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 9:55:42 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 9:11:22 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > > It makes no difference in any case, because when measuring equal volumes, the heavier is also the densest... after all, D=m/v
> > 
> > As you suggest, it can mean that.  But, as I've explained about 20 times now, it can also mean H2O/air.  In fact this is what meteorologists measure.
> 
> But H2O/air is lighter than just air and not as dense (as long as the H2O is in the form of water vapor, of course)!   

I'm not sure, but I think you are starting to understand.  Maybe it is best for you to quit while you're ahead.

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#557722

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-02-28 19:21 -0600
Message-ID<nb06g6$1atp$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#557506
On 2/27/2016 11:55 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 9:11:22 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> It makes no difference in any case, because when measuring equal
>> volumes, the heavier is also the densest... after all, D=m/v
>
> As you suggest, it can mean that.  But, as I've explained about 20
> times now, it can also mean H2O/air.

"H2O/air", WTF is that ?  Water Gas ? what 20 times, each time you have 
a different spew.


> In fact this is what
> meteorologists measure.

no, typical measurement of humidity is...  => You go google it, pupa.

>
> The only question that remains is how many more fucking times will I
> have to explain this to you morons.

explaining why you don't believe in common science facts, without any 
math or science behind it, will take a really really long time.

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#557461

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-02-27 20:51 -0600
Message-ID<natne2$1hgf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#557455
On 2/27/2016 8:30 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air
> versus dry air
>
> Purpose: Compare the weight of moist air versus dry air, all other
> factors being controlled
>
> Materials needed: Mason jars, one dozen (to repeat controlled
> experiment 4 times) Aluminum foil , one square foot Fishing line, one
> yard, scissors Cotton ball Distilled water, one ounce Access to warm,
> dry room, or dry environment, like a desert setting Extremely
> sensitive scales that can measure extremely small differences in
> weight between mason jars Vacuum pump
>
> Procedures: In warm, dry room, or windless, desert environment set up
> a table.
>
> Prepare two, two by two inch squares of aluminum foil enclosed around
> a cotton ball with fishing line, such that the whole thing can be
> lowered into an open mason jar, without contaminating the jar with
> cotton or precipitate from the water droplet.
>
> Open three of the mason jars and let the ambient air balance in all
> three.  Fan them to balance the air in all three.
>
> In one of the two aluminum foil, cotton, fishing line thingies put a
> drop of distilled water.  Be sure to allow for moisture to evaporate
> out of it

evaporate ?
liquid water disappears into the air,
water turn into a GAS ?

     you said this is impossible, did your little troll brain forget ?


So you are loony toony, delusional, and a stinking little brony

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#558233

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-29 23:34 -0800
Message-ID<65285b8b-e618-463b-8d50-cec7540fed28@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#557461
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:52:56 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote:
> On 2/27/2016 8:30 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> > Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air
> > versus dry air
> >
> > Purpose: Compare the weight of moist air versus dry air, all other
> > factors being controlled
> >
> > Materials needed: Mason jars, one dozen (to repeat controlled
> > experiment 4 times) Aluminum foil , one square foot Fishing line, one
> > yard, scissors Cotton ball Distilled water, one ounce Access to warm,
> > dry room, or dry environment, like a desert setting Extremely
> > sensitive scales that can measure extremely small differences in
> > weight between mason jars Vacuum pump
> >
> > Procedures: In warm, dry room, or windless, desert environment set up
> > a table.
> >
> > Prepare two, two by two inch squares of aluminum foil enclosed around
> > a cotton ball with fishing line, such that the whole thing can be
> > lowered into an open mason jar, without contaminating the jar with
> > cotton or precipitate from the water droplet.
> >
> > Open three of the mason jars and let the ambient air balance in all
> > three.  Fan them to balance the air in all three.
> >
> > In one of the two aluminum foil, cotton, fishing line thingies put a
> > drop of distilled water.  Be sure to allow for moisture to evaporate
> > out of it
> 
> evaporate ?
> liquid water disappears into the air,
> water turn into a GAS ?
> 
>      
you said this is impossible, did your little troll brain forget ?
> 
> 
> So you are loony toony, delusional, and a stinking little brony

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#557766

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-28 21:18 -0800
Message-ID<dda3d8fc-6b06-4bac-8350-c326a35c536f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#557455
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 6:30:35 PM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> 
Procedures and Methods for measuring (testing) the weigh of moist air versus dry air 
> 
> Purpose: 
> Compare the weight of moist air versus dry air, all other factors being controlled
> 
> Materials needed:
> Mason jars, one dozen (to repeat controlled experiment 4 times)
> Aluminum foil , one square foot
> Fishing line, one yard, scissors
> Cotton ball
> Distilled water, one ounce
> Access to warm, dry room, or dry environment, like a desert setting
> Extremely sensitive scales that can measure extremely small differences in weight between mason jars
> Vacuum pump
> 
> Procedures:
> In warm, dry room, or windless, desert environment set up a table.  
> 
> Prepare two, two by two inch squares of aluminum foil enclosed around a cotton ball with fishing line, such that the whole thing can be lowered into an open mason jar, without contaminating the jar with cotton or precipitate from the water droplet.
> 
> Open three of the mason jars and let the ambient air balance in all three.  Fan them to balance the air in all three.  
> 
> In one of the two aluminum foil, cotton, fishing line thingies put a drop of distilled water.  Be sure to allow for moisture to evaporate out of it
> 
> Lower both of these thingies into two of the jars.
> 
> Turn the lids upside down for all three jars and place them over the top of the jars, this will trap any moisture and prevent it from "convecting" away.  Wait for ten minutes, or so, allowing for evaporation.
> 
> Any moisture should have evaporated in from the thingies into the mason jars.  This should have increased the moisture level in the one jar and should have left it unchanged in the other jars.  The moisture having pushed out a equal number of air particles.  
> 
> Carefully remove the thingies and screw the top on the jars tightly.  
> 
> Be sure to only handle jars with latex gloves, don't tape or glue anything to jars.  Put jars in plastic bags to protect them from contamination.  Be sure to distinguish which jar is which.  And be sure to keep respective sets together.
> 
> Weigh the mason jars and record their respective weights
> Open lid, fan to balance humidity level and weigh again
> Evacuate all with pump and weigh again.
> 
> Produce a data table with all of the respective weights for all three of the jars.  Repeat for all additional (three) sets of jars.
> 
> Evaluate data.  
> 
> If the moist air jar is heavier (as I claim) then my premise is proven.  
> If it is lighter then the traditional understanding is proven.  
> If there is no measurable different then more precise scales are needed.

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#558052 — re, re, re

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-29 13:12 -0800
Subjectre, re, re
Message-ID<5db378ad-faa0-473f-93e3-f9bc1613220e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#557766
you may have a postulate as to why,
if HOH is lighter than air,
it should increase the weight of air.  so, I gather that
you say it is because HOH does not occur in the gas phase,
by refusing to completely evaporate

> > If the moist air jar is heavier (as I claim) then my premise is proven.  
> > If it is lighter then the traditional understanding is proven.  
> > If there is no measurable different then more precise scales are needed.

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#558079 — Re: re, re, re

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-29 14:53 -0800
SubjectRe: re, re, re
Message-ID<1047c703-e5a1-4c74-a008-f5b2f863b337@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#558052
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 1:12:14 PM UTC-8, noTthaTguY wrote:
> you may have a postulate as to why,
> if HOH is lighter than air,
> it should increase the weight of air.  so, I gather that
> you say it is because HOH does not occur in the gas phase,
> by refusing to completely evaporate

On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 1:12:14 PM UTC-8, noTthaTguY wrote:
> you may have a postulate as to why,
> if HOH is lighter than air,
> it should increase the weight of air.  so, I gather that
> you say it is because HOH does not occur in the gas phase,
> by refusing to completely evaporate

Right.  Even when it is invisible it is still liquid droplets/cluster.  In fact it is impossible, because water's boiling point has been well established by the laboratory evidence.

How was it that it took you this long to figure out that this was my postulate?

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#558092 — Re: re, re, re

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-29 17:33 -0600
SubjectRe: re, re, re
Message-ID<4uGdndN3xaH8SEnLnZ2dnUU7-IOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#558079
On 2/29/16 4:53 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> Even when it is invisible it is still liquid droplets/cluster.


   Except when it [water] is gas, which is most of the time.

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#558722 — Re: re, re, re

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-02 15:36 -0800
SubjectRe: re, re, re
Message-ID<fdf0b568-b019-4b73-8b38-a7628f34016f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#558092
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 3:33:55 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 2/29/16 4:53 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> > Even when it is invisible it is still liquid droplets/cluster.
> 
> 
>    Except when it [water] is gas, which is most of the time.

Sam, do you have any proof that clear air is gaseous?

Answer the question you evasive AGW loon.

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#558731 — Re: re, re, re

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-03-02 23:55 +0000
SubjectRe: re, re, re
Message-ID<24bkqc-87p.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#558722
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 3:33:55 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 2/29/16 4:53 PM, James McGinn wrote:
>> > Even when it is invisible it is still liquid droplets/cluster.
>> 
>> 
>>    Except when it [water] is gas, which is most of the time.
> 
> Sam, do you have any proof that clear air is gaseous?

Have you the slightest clue just how mind boggling, blaziningly, and
absolutely ignorant that question is?


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#558749 — Re: re, re, re

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-02 18:50 -0600
SubjectRe: re, re, re
Message-ID<78GdnekfxPbKF0rLnZ2dnUU7-NkAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#558731
On 3/2/16 5:55 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Have you the slightest clue just how mind boggling, blaziningly, and
> absolutely ignorant that question is?


   It like you saying, "I fell down, but nobody can prove gravity exists,
   after all I can't see it".

   Get real, James.

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#559620 — Re: re, re, re

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-05 11:24 -0800
SubjectRe: re, re, re
Message-ID<8f66d5a6-a151-4c72-aeba-f9fcac25f4af@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#558731
On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> >>    Except when it [water] is gas, which is most of the time.
> > 
> > Sam, do you have any proof that clear air is gaseous?
> 
> Have you the slightest clue just how mind boggling, blazingly, and
> absolutely ignorant that question is?

Seems like a good question to me.  Is there some reason you don't just answer it?

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#559636 — Re: re, re, re

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-03-05 19:35 +0000
SubjectRe: re, re, re
Message-ID<e0prqc-mpk.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#559620
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> >>    Except when it [water] is gas, which is most of the time.
>> > 
>> > Sam, do you have any proof that clear air is gaseous?
>> 
>> Have you the slightest clue just how mind boggling, blazingly, and
>> absolutely ignorant that question is?
> 
> Seems like a good question to me.

This is because you are delusional and mind boggling, blazingly, and 
absolutely ignorant.


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#558651 — re de rain

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-02 11:37 -0800
Subjectre de rain
Message-ID<4ae16d52-5e7a-422a-8f6b-0fa4546a9d09@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#558079
given the relative humidity (r.h,
it is hard for drops to form when it is less than 1 (one;
more than one is supersaturated, whence falleth raindrops

> > by refusing to completely evaporate
> 
> Right.  Even when it is invisible it is still liquid droplets/cluster.  In fact it is impossible, because water's boiling point has been well established by the laboratory evidence.
> 
> How was it that it took you this long to figure out that this was my postulate?

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