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Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again?

Started byJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
First post2018-11-24 11:46 -0800
Last post2018-12-17 02:14 +0100
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  Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 11:46 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 12:57 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 15:49 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 16:34 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 20:48 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 09:27 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 20:53 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-25 11:40 -0600
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 11:26 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Steve <invalidz@example.net> - 2018-11-25 16:52 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-11-26 01:06 +0000
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 21:05 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 10:51 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Richard Cranium <involidz@example.net> - 2018-11-28 07:38 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-26 12:54 -0600
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-25 22:57 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-24 16:22 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-25 14:06 -0800
    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 15:43 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 17:51 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Oscar <invalidz@example.net> - 2018-11-26 18:11 -0800
      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-26 20:09 -0800
        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 20:40 -0800
          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 03:40 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 16:44 +0000
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 15:38 -0800
            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 11:14 -0800
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 15:42 -0800
                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-11-28 01:08 +0100
              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 21:51 -0800
                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 23:32 -0800
                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-27 23:44 -0800
                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-27 23:59 -0800
                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 08:54 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Buck Futter <invaolidz@example.net> - 2018-11-28 17:28 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 17:48 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 20:43 -0800
                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 20:50 -0800
                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 23:55 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 01:01 -0800
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 12:08 -0800
                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 15:11 -0800
                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-28 20:50 -0800
                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 23:12 -0800
                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 00:03 -0800
                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 00:07 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Steve <invaolidz@example.net> - 2018-11-29 18:57 -0800
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-30 14:06 -0600
                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 12:02 -0800
                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 14:56 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 23:06 +0000
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 15:38 -0800
                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 18:05 -0800
                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 01:41 -0800
                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-30 14:06 -0600
                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 16:08 -0800
                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 01:34 -0800
                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 19:16 -0800
                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 20:14 -0800
                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 20:27 -0800
                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 21:59 -0800
                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 09:48 -0800
                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 11:07 -0800
                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 12:22 -0800
                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-02 18:31 -0800
                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-02 22:13 -0800
                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-02 22:14 -0800
                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-02 22:20 -0800
                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 13:28 -0800
                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-03 13:44 -0800
                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 14:38 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-03 14:47 -0800
                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 03:32 -0800
                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 23:31 +0000
                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 17:14 -0800
                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 17:44 -0800
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-05 18:49 -0700
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 20:00 -0800
                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 19:24 -0800
                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 20:05 -0800
                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 21:08 -0800
                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 21:35 -0800
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 22:38 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 22:52 -0800
                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 22:50 -0800
                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 22:58 -0800
                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-05 23:14 -0800
                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 13:33 +0000
                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 07:41 -0800
                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-06 16:34 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 09:45 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 09:56 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 11:16 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-06 12:26 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 11:34 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-06 12:54 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 13:42 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 19:48 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 20:35 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 08:14 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 15:58 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 16:34 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 21:46 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 22:16 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 22:32 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 23:38 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 09:45 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:43 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? % <%> - 2018-12-12 14:46 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 23:33 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 23:40 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:51 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 20:29 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-08 23:07 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:20 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 09:13 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 09:40 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-09 14:37 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-10 14:03 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:34 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 21:33 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 13:06 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:06 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 16:01 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 16:36 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 04:28 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 15:25 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 07:46 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 17:18 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 09:51 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 18:05 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:17 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 10:44 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-07 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 13:26 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 15:05 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 17:37 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 19:22 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-07 21:48 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 13:08 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:26 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:27 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-10 14:09 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 15:00 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 03:17 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-07 23:03 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:02 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 18:14 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:25 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-08 18:44 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 10:52 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-09 05:44 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:31 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 10:49 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-09 22:36 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 23:44 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-08 18:28 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 02:52 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 08:22 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 18:22 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again? James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-09 20:14 -0800
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#714456 — Does Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again?

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-24 11:46 -0800
SubjectDoes Gravity Actually Bend Light? Or Are We Fooling Ourselves -- Again?
Message-ID<f8354264-41d4-4192-88a4-01da14b422ac@googlegroups.com>
Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  

Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)

Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?

Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?

James McGinn   

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#714469

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-24 12:57 -0800
Message-ID<c5745040-abc6-4aaa-bdb6-5ea7134ed335@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714456
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> 
> Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> 
> Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> 
> Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> 
> James McGinn

No. Sun's atmosphere would refract light in all its directions.
Leading to no net light direction change.
But gravity curves motion and we can see.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#714524

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-24 15:49 -0800
Message-ID<2482743d-8819-49ac-8c51-603efdabd7f6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714469
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 10:57:16 PM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> > 
> > Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> > 
> > Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> > 
> > Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> > 
> > James McGinn
> 
> No. Sun's atmosphere would refract light in all its directions.
> Leading to no net light direction change.
> But gravity curves motion and we can see.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch

=====================
and what happens **after** that gravity 'force'' lines are leaving the sun atmosphere ?

do you mean that
gravity force lines 
are   curving  naturally   ??
===
TIA
Y.P
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#714546

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-24 16:34 -0800
Message-ID<c39e2517-abaf-48d1-8503-cb8e398f2a5d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714524
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 3:49:50 PM UTC-8, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 10:57:16 PM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > > Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> > > 
> > > Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> > > 
> > > Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> > > 
> > > Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> > > 
> > > James McGinn
> > 
> > No. Sun's atmosphere would refract light in all its directions.
> > Leading to no net light direction change.
> > But gravity curves motion and we can see.
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> =====================
> and what happens **after** that gravity 'force'' lines are leaving the sun atmosphere ?

Its motion curves from the space curve surrounding the Sun.

> 
> do you mean that
> gravity force lines 
> are   curving  naturally   ??


Don't be offended porat.
God creates gravity.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#714587

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-24 20:48 -0800
Message-ID<966a15d9-2e12-43bc-a857-bcc58345c741@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714546
On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 2:34:16 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 3:49:50 PM UTC-8, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 10:57:16 PM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > > > Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> > > > 
> > > > Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> > > > 
> > > > Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> > > > 
> > > > Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> > > > 
> > > > James McGinn
> > > 
> > > No. Sun's atmosphere would refract light in all its directions.
> > > Leading to no net light direction change.
> > > But gravity curves motion and we can see.
> > > 
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> > =====================
> > and what happens **after** that gravity 'force'' lines are leaving the sun atmosphere ?
> 
> Its motion curves from the space curve surrounding the Sun.
=================================

enough with  that  parroting stupidity !!

space is  nothing !
and    NOTHING''CAN DO NOTHING !    
more than time  for you to  LEAR NEW THIGS

IT IA MASS!!THAT  IS DOING   IT !


==================================================================
MASS **  IS THE CREATOR OF** ALL** FORCES -  INCLUDING  GRAVITY !!!
===================================================================
TIA
y.p=
================
 

NO CURVATURE AND  NO   SCHMERVATURE   OF SPACE !

ITIS MASS THAT DOES OT 
> > 
> > do you mean that
> > gravity force lines 
> > are   curving  naturally   ??
> 
> 
> Don't be offended porat.
> God creates gravity.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch

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#714675

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-25 09:27 -0800
Message-ID<3aeb94d1-546a-478d-8a4f-5e63f1d81e92@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714587
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 8:48:37 PM UTC-8, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 2:34:16 AM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 3:49:50 PM UTC-8, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 10:57:16 PM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > > > > Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> > > > > 
> > > > > James McGinn
> > > > 
> > > > No. Sun's atmosphere would refract light in all its directions.
> > > > Leading to no net light direction change.
> > > > But gravity curves motion and we can see.
> > > > 
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > 
> > > =====================
> > > and what happens **after** that gravity 'force'' lines are leaving the sun atmosphere ?
> > 
> > Its motion curves from the space curve surrounding the Sun.
> =================================
> 
> enough with  that  parroting stupidity !!
> 
> space is  nothing !

Space is aether.

> and    NOTHING''CAN DO NOTHING !    
> more than time  for you to  LEAR NEW THIGS
> 
> IT IA MASS!!THAT  IS DOING   IT !
> 
> 
> ==================================================================
> MASS **  IS THE CREATOR OF** ALL** FORCES -  INCLUDING  GRAVITY !!!
> ===================================================================
> TIA
> y.p=
> ================
>  
> 
> NO CURVATURE AND  NO   SCHMERVATURE   OF SPACE !
> 
> ITIS MASS THAT DOES OT 
> > > 
> > > do you mean that
> > > gravity force lines 
> > > are   curving  naturally   ??
> > 
> > 
> > Don't be offended porat.
> > God creates gravity.
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch

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#714590

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-24 20:53 -0800
Message-ID<33c0ff3a-dc10-499c-9e3d-b37f21a01e5c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714524
On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 1:49:50 AM UTC+2, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 10:57:16 PM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > > Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> > > 
> > > Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> > > 
> > > Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> > > 
> > > Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> > > 
> > > James McGinn
> > 
> > No. Sun's atmosphere would refract light in all its directions.
> > Leading to no net light direction change.
> > But gravity curves motion and we can see.
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> =====================
> and what happens **after** that gravity 'force'' lines are leaving the sun atmosphere ?
> 
> do you mean that
> gravity force lines 
> are   curving  naturally   ??
> ===
> TIA
> Y.P
> ===============================

bending light is 
because may be you still   don t know 

LIGHT HAS MASS !! THE ONLY MASS!!
AN PROBABLY YOU KNOW  THAT OUR GLOBE HAS MASS!

IS SO ..WHY WONDER ??!!
=====
TIA
Y.P
=====================

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#714677

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-11-25 11:40 -0600
Message-ID<ptemq0$pco$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#714469
On 11/24/2018 2:57 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
>> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  

yes

>>
>> Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)

no

>>
>> Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?

it is very evident

>>
>> Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?

no.

>>
>> James McGinn

AKA "Caudious Dink"    is cladious your aunts name ?

> 
> No. Sun's atmosphere would refract light in all its directions.
> Leading to no net light direction change.
> But gravity curves motion and we can see.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 

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#714696

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-25 11:26 -0800
Message-ID<f3b8db27-76af-4e0d-8c3d-43cd30d8ae44@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714677
On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 7:40:20 PM UTC+2, Sergio wrote:
> On 11/24/2018 2:57 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> >> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> 
> yes
> 
> >>
> >> Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> 
> no
> 
> >>
> >> Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> 
> it is very evident
> 
> >>
> >> Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> 
> no.
> 
> >>
> >> James McGinn
> 
> AKA "Caudious Dink"    is cladious your aunts name ?
> 
> > 
> > No. Sun's atmosphere would refract light in all its directions.
> > Leading to no net light direction change.
> > But gravity curves motion and we can see.
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> >
==========================
yes 
gravity   gravity you  keep on parroting 
but the only simple  thig you did not yet  internalize is 
======================================
MASS  IS THE CRERATOR OF ALL  FORCES 
INCLUDING GRAVITTY 
===================

you neve find any  force in which mass is found near
(or not so near ) by 
so difficult to get   it ??
+
TIA
Y.P
================

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#714739

FromSteve <invalidz@example.net>
Date2018-11-25 16:52 -0800
Message-ID<ptfg4t$429$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#714696
> ======================================
> MASS  IS THE CRERATOR OF ALL  FORCES
> INCLUDING GRAVITTY
> ===================

"CRERATOR" is not a word, you blithering fuckwit.

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#714743

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2018-11-26 01:06 +0000
Message-ID<dhtrcf-fpa.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#714739
Steve <invalidz@example.net> wrote:
>> ======================================
>> MASS  IS THE CRERATOR OF ALL  FORCES
>> INCLUDING GRAVITTY
>> ===================
> 
> "CRERATOR" is not a word, you blithering fuckwit.
 
Neither is "GRAVITTY" and why isn't there a period at the end of the sentence?
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#714773

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-25 21:05 -0800
Message-ID<1dc34b25-acc8-4e81-9588-be4c228b31d7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714739
On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 2:52:51 AM UTC+2, Steve wrote:
> > ======================================
> > MASS  IS THE CRERATOR OF ALL  FORCES
> > INCLUDING GRAVITTY
> > ===================
> 
> "CRERATOR" is not a word, you blithering fuckwit.
=====================
=thank you great physicist  A NEW  SHAKESPEAR IN OUR N G   of physics

mass ** is the  creator of all   forces 
ICLUDING  GRAVITY !!
btw
little drek  shit   have some  PHYSICS  NEWES  for this N G ?

_+++++
Y.P
===============

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#714846

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-11-26 10:51 -0800
Message-ID<9fcb3ba4-0427-423c-994e-6ee589a1bdaf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714773
On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 9:05:36 PM UTC-8, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 2:52:51 AM UTC+2, Steve wrote:
> > > ======================================
> > > MASS  IS THE CRERATOR OF ALL  FORCES
> > > INCLUDING GRAVITTY
> > > ===================
> > 
> > "CRERATOR" is not a word, you blithering fuckwit.
> =====================
> =thank you great physicist  A NEW  SHAKESPEAR IN OUR N G   of physics
> 
> mass ** is the  creator of all   forces 
> ICLUDING  GRAVITY !!
> btw
> little drek  shit   have some  PHYSICS  NEWES  for this N G ?
> 
> _+++++
> Y.P
> ===============

I do not believe in the weak force. No instead it is just radioactivity.
It is describing fission phenomenon. Force it together and the pile
goes critical.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#715110

FromRichard Cranium <involidz@example.net>
Date2018-11-28 07:38 -0800
Message-ID<ptmcpf$1nme$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#714773
> Ass ** is the  creator of all farces
> ICLUDING  GRAVITY !!
> btw
> little drek  shit   have some  PHYSICS  NEWES  for this N G ?
> NEWES! NEWES! NEWES! NEWES! NEWES! NEWES! NEWES! NEWES! NEWES! 

"ICLUDING" is not a word, you blithering fuckwit.

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#714847

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2018-11-26 12:54 -0600
Message-ID<pthfhd$1e7i$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#714739
On 11/25/2018 6:52 PM, Steve wrote:
>> ======================================
>> MASS  IS THE CRERATOR OF ALL  FORCES
>> INCLUDING GRAVITTY
>> ===================
> 
> "CRERATOR" is not a word, you blithering fuckwit.
> 
> 

fuckwit is a UK word, get a clueb

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#714798

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-25 22:57 -0800
Message-ID<404a3b18-83e5-44b2-8690-951f594bd279@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714696
On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 9:26:13 PM UTC+2, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 7:40:20 PM UTC+2, Sergio wrote:
> > On 11/24/2018 2:57 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> > >> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> > 
> > yes
> > 
> > >>
> > >> Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> > 
> > no
> > 
> > >>
> > >> Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> > 
> > it is very evident
> > 
> > >>
> > >> Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> > 
> > no.
> > 
> > >>
> > >> James McGinn
> > 
> > AKA "Caudious Dink"    is cladious your aunts name ?
> > 
> > > 
> > > No. Sun's atmosphere would refract light in all its directions.
> > > Leading to no net light direction change.
> > > But gravity curves motion and we can see.
> > > 
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > >
> ==========================
> yes 
> gravity   gravity you  keep on parroting 
> but the only simple  thig you did not yet  internalize is 
> ======================================
> MASS  IS THE CRERATOR OF ALL  FORCES 
> INCLUDING GRAVITTY 
> ===================
> 
> you neve find any  force in which mass is found near
> (or not so near ) by 
> so difficult to get   it ??
> +
> TIA
> Y.P
> ================
and !!

 I t  is more than time for you to know that:

EM WAIVES HAVE MASS  THE ONLY !! MASS
NOT RELATIVISTIC AND NOT SCHMELATIVISTIC   !
if as why wonder ??
you have the  mass of earth 
and the MASS of em waves 
and what ?
are you able to  go on   with it  
or need   to  take you by your hand to do it ??
2
a hint

E=hf  energy of em  
see/DO  the dimension analysis OF IT !!
there is nothing  there to multiply the mass of hf
NOT BY ZERO MORE BY ANY RELATIVISTIC FACTOR !!
complicated   ??
need one to be a genius for that ??

only for parrots 
that never ending in   this ng !

==
TIA
Y.P
==================================



  

 


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#714541

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2018-11-24 16:22 -0800
Message-ID<5a103580-2870-4248-a3b9-ef43b40c2c1e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714456
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-8, James McGinn wrote:
> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> 
> Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> 
> Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> 
> Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> 
> James McGinn

The problem with this thinking, Jim, is that the Sun's corona has a density of only 10^{-16} g/cm^3, which is essentially a better vacuum than can be made here on Earth. Compare this to the density of air on Earth, which is about 10^{-3} g/cm^3 at sea level. 

This means that almost all starlight that passes through the Sun's coronal atmosphere without encountering any matter at all.

http://solar-center.stanford.edu/vitalstats.html

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#714708

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-25 14:06 -0800
Message-ID<3e2df72e-c1b2-466e-9b0d-48a4a6cfc9fc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714456
Some excellent questions James.

On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 2:46:06 PM UTC-5, James McGinn wrote:
> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  

Yes.
> 
> Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)

Atmospheric source is too thin. Also such refractive bending
is different for different wavelengths. So stars would smear.

Newton's corpuscular theory also predicts bending of light,
but by a smaller amount than what is observed.

> 
> Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident
> if gravity actually did bend light?

You are implying an assumption an assumption that gravity does not
bend light.

The evidence it that gravitational lensing does happen.

> 
> Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that
> is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> 
> James McGinn

Why do you call it "limited"? there are plenty of examples.

As for the second part, already answered. The results from
atmospheric bending do not match what is observed. Stars observed
in solar eclipse are still sharp images, just displaced. And
the measured displacement matches the calculated value
from Relativity, and not from refractive or classical calculations.

HTH.

Enjoy.
   Ed

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#714891

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-26 15:43 -0800
Message-ID<7deb9e00-f427-4fde-be3e-ff2a2a13f2cb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714456
On Sunday, 25 November 2018 06:46:06 UTC+11, James McGinn  wrote:
> Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  

So is claimed by the e=mcc=hv Einsteinan devils, as a "proof" for their ridiculous theories of relativity.

> Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)

Of course this is the obvious explanation. I have been making it since 2003 or earlier. The Sun's outer atmosphere is acting as an optical lens. What is a simple optical phenomenon is being passed off as proof of GR. Heh. 

> Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?

Gravity does not bend light, but appears to from the moving Earth platform. So when the light goes straight away from the Earth - really - it APPEARS to be bending from the Earth platform, and this happens because the Earth too is moving. Now, this APPARENT bending of light is said to be caused by Earth's gravity. Which is false. Similarly for GPS - the maths works because of conformal mapping (keeping the Earth still and twist up the maths), a great case of two wrongs making a right.

> Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?

Stars are too far away, James. We need to know what is what right beneath our feet. Is the centre of the Earth, Sun, Jupiter or any other large body with a magnetic field very cold, or very hot?  

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
> 
> James McGinn

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#714905

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-11-26 17:51 -0800
Message-ID<d9877e5d-6c57-4044-a9c7-a5b7753baf2e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#714891
On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 1:43:22 AM UTC+2, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Sunday, 25 November 2018 06:46:06 UTC+11, James McGinn  wrote:
> > Did the eclipse experiment actually demonstrate that light is bent by gravity?  
> 
> So is claimed by the e=mcc=hv Einsteinan devils, as a "proof" for their ridiculous theories of relativity.
> 
> > Is there another explanation?  (ie. the sun's atmosphere)
> 
> Of course this is the obvious explanation. I have been making it since 2003 or earlier. The Sun's outer atmosphere is acting as an optical lens. What is a simple optical phenomenon is being passed off as proof of GR. Heh. 
> 
> > Wouldn't gravitational lensing be much more evident if gravity actually did bend light?
> 
> Gravity does not bend light, but appears to from the moving Earth platform. So when the light goes straight away from the Earth - really - it APPEARS to be bending from the Earth platform, and this happens because the Earth too is moving. Now, this APPARENT bending of light is said to be caused by Earth's gravity. Which is false. Similarly for GPS - the maths works because of conformal mapping (keeping the Earth still and twist up the maths), a great case of two wrongs making a right.
> 
> > Can the limited amount of gravitational lensing that is evident be explained by stars having atmospheres?
> 
> Stars are too far away, James. We need to know what is what right beneath our feet. Is the centre of the Earth, Sun, Jupiter or any other large body with a magnetic field very cold, or very hot?  
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
> > 
> > James McGinn
=============================
the Eddington experiment
was not done too  far from   us …
as you mumble
2
listen to what the old   man  is telling you 
-------------------
photons   has mass -the only mass
and that is the key  why light bends next to a big mass !!
not even f en curved space 
=================
Y.P
============



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