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| Started by | Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2016-01-21 07:56 -0500 |
| Last post | 2016-01-23 02:27 -0500 |
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When Will We Reach the End of the Periodic Table? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-01-21 07:56 -0500
When Will We Reach the End of the Periodic Table? HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 05:24 -0800
Re: When Will We Reach the End of the Periodic Table? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-01-22 18:35 -0500
Re: When Will We Reach the End of the Periodic Table? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-23 16:35 +1100
Re: When Will We Reach the End of the Periodic Table? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2016-01-23 02:27 -0500
| From | Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-21 07:56 -0500 |
| Subject | When Will We Reach the End of the Periodic Table? |
| Message-ID | <sYidndCv75H-SD3LnZ2dnUU7-bmdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
Lots of problems standing in the way of going towards superheavy elements. From Islands of Stability to super-luminal electrons being required. http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/when-will-we-reach-end-periodic-table-180957851/ Yousuf Khan
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-21 05:24 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <16b628f2-7c4f-430b-9cc4-3cc48ef6893e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #546964 |
Any observation or experiment which indicates something moving faster than light speed needs to be discarded forthwith. If you understand physics and relativity, you know why this must be so. Sorry kooks. Nothing in our universe can travel faster than light
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| From | Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-22 18:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <-vidnWarV_VVIT_LnZ2dnUU7-UGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #546968 |
On 21/01/2016 8:24 AM, HVAC wrote: > Any observation or experiment which indicates something moving faster than light speed needs to be discarded forthwith. > > If you understand physics and relativity, you know why this must be so. > > Sorry kooks. Nothing in our universe can travel faster than light Well, of course, that's why we may be nearing the end of the periodic table, as some of the electrons in the outer shells may be so far out that they are already travelling at relativistic speeds, so go any further and you need super-luminal electrons just to stay in orbit around them which is impossible. Yousuf Khan
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2016-01-23 16:35 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dgghpjFebdqU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #547331 |
On 23/01/2016 10:35 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote: > On 21/01/2016 8:24 AM, HVAC wrote: >> Any observation or experiment which indicates something moving faster >> than light speed needs to be discarded forthwith. >> >> If you understand physics and relativity, you know why this must be so. >> >> Sorry kooks. Nothing in our universe can travel faster than light > > Well, of course, that's why we may be nearing the end of the periodic > table, as some of the electrons in the outer shells may be so far out > that they are already travelling at relativistic speeds, so go any > further and you need super-luminal electrons just to stay in orbit > around them which is impossible. > Or trying to apply the classical model just doesn't work at all up there. Sylvia.
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| From | Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-23 02:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <VYGdnfwQse_Utj7LnZ2dnUU7-bednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #547407 |
On 23/01/2016 12:35 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 23/01/2016 10:35 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote: >> Well, of course, that's why we may be nearing the end of the periodic >> table, as some of the electrons in the outer shells may be so far out >> that they are already travelling at relativistic speeds, so go any >> further and you need super-luminal electrons just to stay in orbit >> around them which is impossible. >> > > Or trying to apply the classical model just doesn't work at all up there. Well, it's hardly a classical model that they're using. It's been proven that the larger atoms have electrons that are orbiting at relativistic speeds. For example, it's the main reason for the gold colour of gold atoms: their outer shell electrons absorb a lot of blue light. Relativistic quantum chemistry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_quantum_chemistry Yousuf Khan
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