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  Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-14 12:29 -0800
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Ty Knotts <TyKnotts@hotmail.org> - 2015-11-14 20:37 +0000
      Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Ty Knotts <TyKnotts@hotmail.org> - 2015-11-14 20:38 +0000
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 15:37 -0600
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-11-15 10:34 +0800
      Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-15 05:32 +0000
        Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-11-14 21:50 -0800
          Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-11-15 07:22 +0000
            Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 07:12 -0500
        Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 07:11 -0500
        Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-11-16 14:16 +0800
          Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:14 -0600
            Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-16 17:56 +0100
              Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:06 -0600
                Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-16 18:28 +0100
                  Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:59 -0600
                    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-16 19:02 +0100
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-15 08:22 -0600
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-11-15 08:51 -0600
      Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 11:11 -0500
        Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-15 11:57 -0500
          Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 18:10 +0100
          Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 12:40 -0500
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 15:52 -0800
    Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-11-22 06:58 +0100
      Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. Walter Ilinois <walin@wej98j5q.org> - 2015-11-22 13:51 +0000
        Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning. "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 10:56 -0800
        Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the   beginning. Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-11-23 20:48 +0100
          Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the   beginning. Carl Heinz Krüger <heinzkrueger@ubernetz.org> - 2015-12-01 19:57 +0000

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#533287

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:11:11 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <n2a61u$hhk$1@dont-email.me>, dstaup@charter.net says...
>> 
>> On 11/14/2015 2:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
>> >
>> > "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that water may have been a
>> > fundamental part of Earth since its beginning some 4.5 billion years ago."
>> >
>> >
>> > "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research indicates they might be right."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > These science guys find themselves always going
>> > back to...
>> >
>> >
>> > 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
>> > Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
>> >
>> 
>> chuckle
>> 
>> It is you who makes that connection
>> 
>> the science is clear and requires no god
>> 
>> you get "science" from the huffington post?  that clearly marks you as 
>> an idiot
>> 
>> the STUDY was published in 2014. you may be able to understand this 
>> write up.... but who knows what an idiot will understand
>> 
>> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141030-starstruck-earth-water-origin-vesta-science/
>
>I'm not sure I understand why anybody would think that water was not 
>primordial.  Most of the universe is hydrogen and almost half the mass 
>of Earth's crust is oxygen so it would be very surprising if a certain 
>percentage of that oxygen was _not_ bound with hydrogen.

         The problem was, most of the oxygen was
bound to carbon, until a microbe became plentiful
enough to release it by metabolizing the carbon.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/origin-of-oxygen-in-atmosphere/


       I  don't know why the url you posted is news,
I saw a special on this on pbs the other day, and
thought it was old news.

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#533288

Dne 15/11/2015 v 17:57 kefischer napsal(a):

> 
>          The problem was, most of the oxygen was
> bound to carbon, until a microbe became plentiful
> enough to release it by metabolizing the carbon.
> 


As there is much more of oxygen then of carbon on Earth,
it is not true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_of_elements_in_Earth%27s_crust

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/elabund.html


-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#533291

In article <ctdh4blqeg20sjojgugvic35r2o5rf5eph@4ax.com>, 
emoneyjoe@iglou.com says...
> 
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:11:11 -0500, "J. Clarke"
> <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >In article <n2a61u$hhk$1@dont-email.me>, dstaup@charter.net says...
> >> 
> >> On 11/14/2015 2:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
> >> >
> >> > "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that water may have been a
> >> > fundamental part of Earth since its beginning some 4.5 billion years ago."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research indicates they might be right."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > These science guys find themselves always going
> >> > back to...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
> >> > Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
> >> >
> >> 
> >> chuckle
> >> 
> >> It is you who makes that connection
> >> 
> >> the science is clear and requires no god
> >> 
> >> you get "science" from the huffington post?  that clearly marks you as 
> >> an idiot
> >> 
> >> the STUDY was published in 2014. you may be able to understand this 
> >> write up.... but who knows what an idiot will understand
> >> 
> >> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141030-starstruck-earth-water-origin-vesta-science/
> >
> >I'm not sure I understand why anybody would think that water was not 
> >primordial.  Most of the universe is hydrogen and almost half the mass 
> >of Earth's crust is oxygen so it would be very surprising if a certain 
> >percentage of that oxygen was _not_ bound with hydrogen.
> 
>          The problem was, most of the oxygen was
> bound to carbon, until a microbe became plentiful
> enough to release it by metabolizing the carbon.

Wrong.  If _all_ the carbon in Earth's crust was bound to oxygen that 
would account for about 0.1% of the oxygen in Earth's crust.  The 
largest percentage of it is bound to silicon, aluminum, and iron. 
 
> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/origin-of-oxygen-in-atmosphere/

That article is about free oxygen in the atmosphere.  The vast majority 
of oxygen on Earth is not free oxygen in the atmosphere, the vast 
majority is chemically bound, mostly to silicon, magnesium, and iron.  
And hydrogen.

>        I  don't know why the url you posted is news,
> I saw a special on this on pbs the other day, and
> thought it was old news.

I didn't post a URL.

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#533662

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 12:29:04 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/earths-water-old_56460271e4b08cda348867ea
> 
> "An international team of scientists has found new evidence that water may have been a 
> fundamental part of Earth since its beginning some 4.5 billion years ago."
> 
> 
> "..water has been on Earth since its formation -- and new research indicates they might be right."
> 
> 
> 
> These science guys find themselves always going
> back to...
> 
> 
> 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 
> Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.

Best to keep in mind imperial thinkers still jave "once Upon a Time" comets were snowballs.Just like Tempel 1 and the others.Reality is fine dust is running water to them.  TreBert

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#534506

Am 14.11.2015 21:29, schrieb The Starmaker:
> 'In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
> Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'
>
>
>
>
> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.

 From Leonard Cohen:

he wrote: ... I'm the little Jew who wrote the Bible...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaxvBsyigM


;-)


TH

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#534534

Thomas Heger wrote:

>> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
> 
>  From Leonard Cohen:  he wrote: ... I'm the little Jew who wrote the
>  Bible...
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaxvBsyigM

Isn't it considered a sin by the conventional modern science?

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#534580

On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 5:51:14 AM UTC-8, Walter Ilinois wrote:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> >> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
> > 
> >  From Leonard Cohen:  he wrote: ... I'm the little Jew who wrote the
> >  Bible...
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaxvBsyigM
> 
> Isn't it considered a sin by the conventional modern science?

Thinking of a song with these words.Hate heaven hell H-Bombs Humans .It tell how Gods will make the Earth unfit for all life. Humankind is afraid to die.In death they do cry.They will be dead before they hit the ground,nor hear the sound. TreBert

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#534876 — Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning.

Am 22.11.2015 14:51, schrieb Walter Ilinois:

>>> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
>>
>>    From Leonard Cohen:  he wrote: ... I'm the little Jew who wrote the
>>   Bible...
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaxvBsyigM
>
> Isn't it considered a sin by the conventional modern science?

Aehh.. what?

'Sin' as referring to some kind of activity, that violate heavenly laws 
(like the 'ten commandments').

But singing about to have written the bible, that is not against any 
known law.

Modern science has different laws (than churches), which mainly cover 
physical relations or the conservation of something.

So you could violate the laws of physics only, if you violate - for 
example- the law of conservation of energy or the second law of 
thermodynamics.

These are - nevertheless- severe sins, for what you could be sentenced 
to drop out of the universe.

TH

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#536793 — Re: Water may have been a part of our planet's history since the beginning.

суббота., Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:48:27 +0100 пользователь Thomas Heger
написал:

> Am 22.11.2015 14:51, schrieb Walter Ilinois:
> 
>>>> Maybe they should be investigating where those words come from.
>>>
>>>    From Leonard Cohen:  he wrote: ... I'm the little Jew who wrote the
>>>   Bible...
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaxvBsyigM
>>
>> Isn't it considered a sin by the conventional modern science?
> 
> Aehh.. what?
> 
> 'Sin' as referring to some kind of activity, that violate heavenly laws
> (like the 'ten commandments').But singing about to have written the
> bible, that is not against any known law.

You said "little Jew who wrote the Bible...". It appears to be two 
distinct domains of applicability.

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