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Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways

Started byFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
First post2015-11-09 18:27 +0000
Last post2015-11-10 05:17 +0000
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  Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:27 +0000
    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 19:47 +0100
      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:59 +0000
        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:45 -0500
        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:24 -0500
        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:54 -0700
    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 12:47 -0600
    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:50 -0700
    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:42 -0500
      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 22:26 +0000
        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 22:32 +0000
          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 22:43 +0000
            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 17:25 -0600
              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 23:59 +0000
            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:45 -0500
              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 22:38 +0000
                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-11 06:57 -0600
            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:56 -0700
        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 15:36 -0700
          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 22:50 +0000
            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 16:04 -0700
              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:59 -0700
        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:41 -0500
          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 23:04 +0000
            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 16:19 -0700
              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 23:25 +0000
                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 16:42 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 00:17 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 17:25 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 00:41 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 17:48 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 03:20 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:50 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:09 -0700
                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-09 23:33 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 19:00 -0700
                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 19:00 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 03:28 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:49 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 05:06 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 22:12 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 06:01 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 06:07 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 09:33 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 09:33 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 22:02 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 17:43 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 01:09 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 20:14 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:14 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 19:52 -0600
                                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 02:02 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 20:08 -0600
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-11 09:10 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 06:53 -0800
                                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 12:13 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:51 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-12 12:26 -0600
                                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 12:01 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-10 10:42 -0600
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 10:33 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 05:16 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:12 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 22:06 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 22:13 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:31 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 23:28 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 19:32 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 23:22 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 18:25 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 00:44 +0100
                                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 18:50 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-11 09:04 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 15:49 +0100
                                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-11 10:37 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 17:46 +0100
                                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-11 12:21 -0500
                                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 11:01 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:50 -0700
                                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:52 -0700
                                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:36 -0700
                                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 23:06 +0100
                                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:28 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 23:56 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 19:02 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 00:59 +0000
                                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 19:44 -0600
                                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 04:20 +0000
                                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 21:02 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 02:49 +0000
                                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 21:57 -0500
                                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 03:24 +0000
                                                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-12 12:28 -0600
                                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-11 07:33 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 23:29 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 18:32 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 23:27 +0100
                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:29 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:27 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:12 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:36 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 22:24 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:36 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:30 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 17:46 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 01:22 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:50 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 02:26 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 10:34 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-11 13:52 -0700
                                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:26 -0700
                                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 20:03 -0700
                                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:32 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:29 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:10 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 22:07 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 17:59 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 23:42 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 18:59 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 19:47 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 16:41 -0800
                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-11 00:52 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 20:42 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 20:05 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 01:27 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-11 02:56 +0100
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-11 13:55 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 19:39 -0600
                                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 02:19 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 20:47 -0600
                                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 03:04 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 21:24 -0600
                                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 03:40 +0000
                                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 07:11 -0600
                                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 04:45 +0000
                                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 07:15 -0600
                                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-11 09:03 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:31 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 13:38 -0600
                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:11 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 22:26 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:33 -0700
            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 18:41 -0500
              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 16:51 -0700
            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-09 20:52 -0600
              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-10 08:29 -0600
                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 14:34 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 14:56 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 15:01 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-10 10:40 -0600
                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:16 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 09:56 -0800
                      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-10 13:00 -0600
                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 19:05 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-11 06:14 -0500
                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 12:00 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-11 09:10 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-11 11:34 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-11 12:18 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:23 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-12 12:23 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:21 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-11 13:57 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-11 12:04 -0600
                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-11 13:12 -0500
                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-11 15:26 -0500
                          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 20:30 +0000
                          The Jackass, aka Turdv, braying away. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-11 13:59 -0700
                Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:47 -0500
        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-09 16:41 -0600
          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 18:35 -0500
            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 16:52 -0700
        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 18:15 -0600
          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 00:30 +0000
            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 18:43 -0600
              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 03:37 +0000
            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 00:46 +0000
              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:07 -0700
              Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 19:03 -0700
        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:56 -0700
        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-10 06:03 -0500
          Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 14:59 +0000
            Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-10 13:41 -0500
      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 23:34 +0000
        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 18:42 -0500
        Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 16:53 -0700
    Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways "Wipe A Rat" <invalid@example.com> - 2015-11-09 19:44 -0800
      Re: Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 05:17 +0000

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FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-10 22:26 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.10.22.26.48@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#531845
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:11:33 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:

>>
> A desktop is necessary if you doing graphics...
>

Not true.  Only a window manager is necessary.

On Linux, there are dozens available.  On MS Windows ... groan ...
only one.

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#531930

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-10 16:33 -0700
Message-ID<FeidnaW65-Qt49_LnZ2dnUU7-WWdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#531905
On 11/10/15 15:26, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:11:33 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>
>>>
>> A desktop is necessary if you doing graphics...
>>
>
> Not true.  Only a window manager is necessary.
>
> On Linux, there are dozens available.  On MS Windows ... groan ...
> only one.
>
Still trolling away, I see.
And you only need one window manager on Windows.
On Solaris I have two window managers, but both can do graphics.
Design programs use nice graphical tools to get the job done.
Doing it your way would get you fired from a corporation that wants it 
done yesterday.

-- 
My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.

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#531592

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-09 18:41 -0500
Message-ID<n1raqu$tuq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#531575
On 2015-11-09 6:04 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 17:41:40 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> at
>> least it doesn't require configuration once it is. With Linux, this is
>> usually necessary for newly-installed programs.
>>
> 
> You bet!
> 
> Linux does not try to do everything for the user.  Linux does not automatically
> assume what is best for the user.  Linux does not hold the user's hand  or wipe
> the user's ass.
> 
> Linux allows the user to run his own game, and that requires CONFIGURATION.

The problem is that certain programs are useless unless you know exactly
how to configure them. For professionals, this is quite simple but for
most users it is cumbersome. Handbrake is actually a perfect example of
an excellent program which is completely useless unless you know exactly
what you're doing.

>> Well, it just makes sense that Microsoft would cater to the companies
>> which provide the operating system with software that allows it to stand
>> out from something that has no exclusive software like Linux.
> 
> There used to be an honor system, but Microsoft is not an honorable company.

It has nothing to do with Microsoft and everything to do with human
nature. People, in general, always feel entitled and will pirate things
even if they can afford to buy them. They also won't stop at pirating
the things that they need and will copy software which is of no use to
them and share it. I don't blame Microsoft and third-parties for not
trusting the user.

>> Good software deserves that the developer get compensated. Since Linux
>> developers aren't, we know what kind of quality to expect from free
>> software.
> 
> Yes, we know that the quality of open source is always BETTER.

Wow, that is incredible delusion. LibreOffice vs. Microsoft Office is a
perfect example of how open-source fails. Amarok vs. MediaMonkey is another.

> Open source does not need to conform to the pressures exerted by
> marketing "experts" that will often dictate software functionality
> and direct it to the level of the "lowest common denominator."
> 
> Open source source need not rely on continued profit and so can
> dispense with the gimmicks and other deceptions that often infiltrate
> commercial software to boost sales.
> 
> Open source CAN be better.  Commercial software often CAN NOT.

We both know that's not true. Catering to the lowest common denominator
as you say ensures that everyone will be able to use the software. It
therefore becomes accessible and intuitive but also interesting to the
advanced user as the features he is looking for are included as well
though inside an "advanced" menu in most cases. This approach sells and
allows a programmer or his employer to make money whereas the Linux
developer's "everything must be needlessly complicated" approach ensures
that free software will continue to be ignored.

-- 
Slimer

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#531601

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-09 16:51 -0700
Message-ID<D2667FA3.6357D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#531592
On 11/9/15, 4:41 PM, in article n1raqu$tuq$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
<.m@nsn.s> wrote:

...
>> Linux does not try to do everything for the user.  Linux does not
>> automatically assume what is best for the user.  Linux does not hold the
>> user's hand  or wipe the user's ass.
>> 
>> Linux allows the user to run his own game, and that requires CONFIGURATION.
>> 
> The problem is that certain programs are useless unless you know exactly how
> to configure them. For professionals, this is quite simple but for most users
> it is cumbersome. Handbrake is actually a perfect example of an excellent
> program which is completely useless unless you know exactly what you're doing.

LOL! Great example. I pointed someone to it recently so they could use some
footage for a personal video... they gave up and used their phone to record
the video playing on their TV.

...
>> Yes, we know that the quality of open source is always BETTER.
> 
> Wow, that is incredible delusion. LibreOffice vs. Microsoft Office is a
> perfect example of how open-source fails. Amarok vs. MediaMonkey is another.

There are some excellent open source programs - but the idea they are
"always BETTER" is just absurd.

>> Open source does not need to conform to the pressures exerted by
>> marketing "experts" that will often dictate software functionality
>> and direct it to the level of the "lowest common denominator."
>> 
>> Open source source need not rely on continued profit and so can
>> dispense with the gimmicks and other deceptions that often infiltrate
>> commercial software to boost sales.
>> 
>> Open source CAN be better.  Commercial software often CAN NOT.
> 
> We both know that's not true. Catering to the lowest common denominator
> as you say ensures that everyone will be able to use the software. It
> therefore becomes accessible and intuitive but also interesting to the
> advanced user as the features he is looking for are included as well
> though inside an "advanced" menu in most cases. This approach sells and
> allows a programmer or his employer to make money whereas the Linux
> developer's "everything must be needlessly complicated" approach ensures
> that free software will continue to be ignored.

Desktop Linux is so great it is easy to get, easy to install, has been
marketed by Dell and HP and Walmart and others, and is STILL at less than 2%
usage.


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#531673

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2015-11-09 20:52 -0600
Message-ID<slrnn42n03.a86.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#531575
On 2015-11-09, Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 17:41:40 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> at
>> least it doesn't require configuration once it is. With Linux, this is
>> usually necessary for newly-installed programs.
>> 

    That's stupid. Any non-trivial application is going to require some
configuration just to allow the end user to set up the options they want.
You are either exposing this to the end user or your program is just 
crippled. 

    Although Unix design principles call for useful defaults.

>
> You bet!
>
> Linux does not try to do everything for the user.  Linux does not automatically
> assume what is best for the user.  Linux does not hold the user's hand  or wipe
> the user's ass.
>
> Linux allows the user to run his own game, and that requires CONFIGURATION.

[deletia]

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#531757

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-11-10 08:29 -0600
Message-ID<38v34bhlohvlr9dmahvoqush58ftis5aoe@4ax.com>
In reply to#531673
>> slime wrote:
>>> 
>>> at least it doesn't require configuration once it is. With Linux, this
>>> is usually necessary for newly-installed programs.

Poor "Slimer" seems to want some "committee" to decide on the "best"
configuration, for EVERYONE, and then lock it down.

We don't need all that choice.  It just confuses people!  Consistency
is more important than flexibility.  Forcing people of all skill
levels to use a single compromise configuration does _not_ result in
loss of productivity!

Sheesh.  What a dipshit.

-- 
"Attaching the Linux name to a product essentially kills that product.
That's why Google refuses to admit Linux is a part of its systems."  -
"Slimer", lying shamelessly

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#531758

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-10 14:34 +0000
Message-ID<daedjlFd88pU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#531757
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 08:29:02 -0600, chrisv wrote:

>>> slime wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> at least it doesn't require configuration once it is. With Linux,
>>>> this is usually necessary for newly-installed programs.
> 
> Poor "Slimer" seems to want some "committee" to decide on the "best"
> configuration, for EVERYONE, and then lock it down.
> 
> We don't need all that choice.  It just confuses people!  Consistency is
> more important than flexibility.  Forcing people of all skill levels to
> use a single compromise configuration does _not_ result in loss of
> productivity!
> 
> Sheesh.  What a dipshit.

Every minute spent configuring the OS is a minute of productivity lost 
unless the configuring of the OS is the only job at hand.



-- 
Lloyd

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#531765

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-10 14:56 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.10.14.56.18@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#531758
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:34:29 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> 
> Every minute spent configuring the OS is a minute of productivity lost 
> unless the configuring of the OS is the only job at hand.
>

Spoken like a true brain-dead, sub-idiotic MBA.  Is it any wonder
that the Chinese will soon be eating our lunch?

The computer is obviously not the proper choice for a dumb-fuck
like you.  You need to go back to adding machines and typewriters.
Those antiquated machines are still available and they can still
do the job.  But best of all, such antiquated technology would allow
you to better grasp the totality as they would not boggle your pathetic
little mind.

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#531767

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-10 15:01 +0000
Message-ID<daef66Fd88pU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#531765
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:56:13 +0000, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:34:29 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> 
> 
>> Every minute spent configuring the OS is a minute of productivity lost
>> unless the configuring of the OS is the only job at hand.
>>
>>
> Spoken like a true brain-dead, sub-idiotic MBA.  Is it any wonder that
> the Chinese will soon be eating our lunch?
>
Right, because the Chinese have found that fucking with the OS is so 
productive.

What a fucking moron you show yourself to be!
 
> The computer is obviously not the proper choice for a dumb-fuck like
> you.  You need to go back to adding machines and typewriters. Those
> antiquated machines are still available and they can still do the job. 
> But best of all, such antiquated technology would allow you to better
> grasp the totality as they would not boggle your pathetic little mind.

I have been using computers at many levels for many years.  Probably was 
using and programming them when you weren't even a twinkle in your 
daddy's eye.


-- 
Lloyd

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#531801

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2015-11-10 10:40 -0600
Message-ID<slrnn447fb.eh.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#531765
On 2015-11-10, Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:34:29 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>> 
>> Every minute spent configuring the OS is a minute of productivity lost 
>> unless the configuring of the OS is the only job at hand.
>>

    So that's what? X minutes for the duration of usage?

    That's hardly a great burden to productivity.

    Your argument only makes sense to a mathematically illiterate audience.

>
> Spoken like a true brain-dead, sub-idiotic MBA.  Is it any wonder
> that the Chinese will soon be eating our lunch?
>
> The computer is obviously not the proper choice for a dumb-fuck
> like you.  You need to go back to adding machines and typewriters.
> Those antiquated machines are still available and they can still
> do the job.  But best of all, such antiquated technology would allow
> you to better grasp the totality as they would not boggle your pathetic
> little mind.
>

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#531805

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-10 17:16 +0000
Message-ID<daen30Ffu64U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#531801
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:40:11 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:

> On 2015-11-10, Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:34:29 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Every minute spent configuring the OS is a minute of productivity lost
>>> unless the configuring of the OS is the only job at hand.
>>>
>>>
>     So that's what? X minutes for the duration of usage?
> 
>     That's hardly a great burden to productivity.
> 
>     Your argument only makes sense to a mathematically illiterate
>     audience.
> 
Except I've never seen anyone with Linux on the desktop that isn't 
fiddling with the OS off and on and accumulating some significant amount 
of time doing it.




-- 
Lloyd

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#531814

FromMahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-10 09:56 -0800
Message-ID<5b06def6-45b2-45e2-bfb2-ee04b0ab2437@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#531801
On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 12:00:12 PM UTC-5, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2015-11-10, Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:34:29 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >
> >> Every minute spent configuring the OS is a minute of productivity lost 
> >> unless the configuring of the OS is the only job at hand.

Every minute? Tick tick TICK... Tock tock TOCK... I see a Clock...
 
>     So that's what? X minutes for the duration of usage?
> 
>     That's hardly a great burden to productivity.
> 
>     Your argument only makes sense to a mathematically illiterate audience.

Hey, I've worked in corporate USA for some duration now. Now I'm one
those 50+ years of age or older crowd. Corporate and Governmental USA
loves us! Hell, they're evening opening doors for us as they
forcefully shove us out of them. But I digress...

It's far more productive, as we We WE all monetizing focused minds
know this in every inch of our thoughts, waiting around three plus
hours or a week before the young male asian tech support gurus, with
their fancy admin account passwords written inside their sweaty palms,
to come back and reinstall Windows (#AnyNumber@all). Been there, done
that, not going back. Please don't make me go back into Cubicle Hell
With A Windoze Based PC. The Horror! Help me...

Thank goodness there's cygwin. But I do not have the admin password to
be allowed to install it. What the hell?! Help...

> > Spoken like a true brain-dead, sub-idiotic MBA.  Is it any wonder
> > that the Chinese will soon be eating our lunch?
> >
> > The computer is obviously not the proper choice for a dumb-fuck
> > like you.  You need to go back to adding machines and typewriters.
> > Those antiquated machines are still available and they can still
> > do the job.  But best of all, such antiquated technology would allow
> > you to better grasp the totality as they would not boggle your pathetic
> > little mind.

-- Mahipal

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#531840

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-11-10 13:00 -0600
Message-ID<kje44bdc2etgrt7h64aet20iiih5mevqgq@4ax.com>
In reply to#531801
JEDIDIAH wrote:

>> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>> 
>>> Every minute spent configuring the OS is a minute of productivity lost 
>>> unless the configuring of the OS is the only job at hand.

Offset by increased productivity in the future, you fscking moron.

Do you consider "training" just "productivity lost", too?

Every minute you spend braying like a jackass is a minute of
respectability lost, "Lloyd".

>    So that's what? X minutes for the duration of usage?
>
>    That's hardly a great burden to productivity.
>
>    Your argument only makes sense to a mathematically illiterate audience.

I'm reminded of being attacked for my choice of calculator.  Its RPN
interface was different from the (most popular, therefore "best")
interface of most calculators, you see.

Some of these imbeciles thought it was just a *terrible* that it might
take a couple days to get used-to what I personally considered a
*much* more efficient tool, that would be heavily used for *years*.

-- 
"Your claim is disproven by your repeated posts that were highly
critical about the lack of USB on the iPad."  -  lying asshole "-hh"

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#531841

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-10 19:05 +0000
Message-ID<daetfjFhieiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#531840
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:00:09 -0600, chrisv wrote:

> JEDIDIAH wrote:
> 
>>> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Every minute spent configuring the OS is a minute of productivity
>>>> lost unless the configuring of the OS is the only job at hand.
> 
> Offset by increased productivity in the future, you fscking moron.
> 
Technically correct with most OS's including Linux.  But you idiots like 
to play with the OS.  Hell you like to post about crap on usenet while on 
your employer's dime.  I guess he doesn't mind since it probably 
indicates you aren't actually needed there all that much.

> Do you consider "training" just "productivity lost", too?
> 
It can be.  Not all 'training' is useful.

> Every minute you spend braying like a jackass is a minute of
> respectability lost, "Lloyd".
> 
But yet you are too chickenshit to respond to original postings of mine.  
What 'respectability' do you think you have you Windows using moron?

>>    So that's what? X minutes for the duration of usage?
>>
>>    That's hardly a great burden to productivity.
>>
>>    Your argument only makes sense to a mathematically illiterate
>>    audience.
> 
> I'm reminded of being attacked for my choice of calculator.  Its RPN
> interface was different from the (most popular, therefore "best")
> interface of most calculators, you see.
> 
> Some of these imbeciles thought it was just a *terrible* that it might
> take a couple days to get used-to what I personally considered a *much*
> more efficient tool, that would be heavily used for *years*.

I don't remember any such discussion.  Must be from LOTS of years ago, or 
maybe just in your mind.



-- 
Lloyd

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#532044

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2015-11-11 06:14 -0500
Message-ID<n1v7re$lsg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#531840
chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
>>> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Every minute spent configuring the OS is a minute of productivity lost 
>>>> unless the configuring of the OS is the only job at hand.
>
> Offset by increased productivity in the future, you fscking moron.
>
> Do you consider "training" just "productivity lost", too?
>
> Every minute you spend braying like a jackass is a minute of
> respectability lost, "Lloyd".

Why would "Lloyd" care about "productivity"?  He's "retired".  No longer
"productive".

>>    So that's what? X minutes for the duration of usage?
>>
>>    That's hardly a great burden to productivity.
>>
>>    Your argument only makes sense to a mathematically illiterate audience.
>
> I'm reminded of being attacked for my choice of calculator.  Its RPN
> interface was different from the (most popular, therefore "best")
> interface of most calculators, you see.
>
> Some of these imbeciles thought it was just a *terrible* that it might
> take a couple days to get used-to what I personally considered a
> *much* more efficient tool, that would be heavily used for *years*.

I have the cross-platform Free42 app on my Android phone, a nice and
flexible emulation of the HP-42 engineering calculator.  Made a real
spiffy HP-42 skin for it, too.

Yeah, RPN is a great thing, and, like many other great things (vi,
consoles, markup languages for documents and typesetting), under-appreciated
by the younger crowd, weaned on the "advanced" and "modern" products of
Apple and <laughing> Microsoft.

-- 
It is so very hard to be an
on-your-own-take-care-of-yourself-because-there-is-no-one-else-to-do-it-for-you
grown-up.

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#532049

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-11 12:00 +0000
Message-ID<dagovpF92jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#532044
On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 06:14:01 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>
>>>> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Every minute spent configuring the OS is a minute of productivity
>>>>> lost unless the configuring of the OS is the only job at hand.
>>
>> Offset by increased productivity in the future, you fscking moron.
>>
>> Do you consider "training" just "productivity lost", too?
>>
>> Every minute you spend braying like a jackass is a minute of
>> respectability lost, "Lloyd".
> 
> Why would "Lloyd" care about "productivity"?  He's "retired".  No longer
> "productive".
> 
>>>    So that's what? X minutes for the duration of usage?
>>>
>>>    That's hardly a great burden to productivity.
>>>
>>>    Your argument only makes sense to a mathematically illiterate
>>>    audience.
>>
>> I'm reminded of being attacked for my choice of calculator.  Its RPN
>> interface was different from the (most popular, therefore "best")
>> interface of most calculators, you see.
>>
>> Some of these imbeciles thought it was just a *terrible* that it might
>> take a couple days to get used-to what I personally considered a *much*
>> more efficient tool, that would be heavily used for *years*.
> 
> I have the cross-platform Free42 app on my Android phone, a nice and
> flexible emulation of the HP-42 engineering calculator.  Made a real
> spiffy HP-42 skin for it, too.
> 
> Yeah, RPN is a great thing, and, like many other great things (vi,
> consoles, markup languages for documents and typesetting),
> under-appreciated by the younger crowd, weaned on the "advanced" and
> "modern" products of Apple and <laughing> Microsoft.

Yeah, the 98.5% of the desktop/laptop market is just so behind the 
times.  Only you linux loonies are picking the right tools for the jobs 
at hand.

RPN is fine I suppose, I've got friends that swore by it.  I never took 
to it even when I was programming in Forth back in the day.  Just 
personal preference.

As to the CLI, various text editors (many also available for windows and 
OSX), as are markup languages, if you need them they are important.  
Outside of some relatively small niches, none of them are actually needed 
or used.

And I note you and chrisv are still just talking to each other and almost 
all posts bitching about the comments of 'trolls' you claim you don't 
read.  What a bunch of cowards you all are.

For all of the crap Peter catches, he isn't a bit afraid to comment 
directly.  I respect him for that.

For the rest of you that are afraid to engage, well go back to your 
circle jerk.




-- 
Lloyd

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#532084

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-11-11 09:10 -0600
Message-ID<4il64blu1meuickk6maool786i5d0dmka5@4ax.com>
In reply to#532044
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>>
>> I'm reminded of being attacked for my choice of calculator.  Its RPN
>> interface was different from the (most popular, therefore "best")
>> interface of most calculators, you see.
>>
>> Some of these imbeciles thought it was just a *terrible* that it might
>> take a couple days to get used-to what I personally considered a
>> *much* more efficient tool, that would be heavily used for *years*.
>
>Yeah, RPN is a great thing, and, like many other great things (vi,
>consoles, markup languages for documents and typesetting), under-appreciated
>by the younger crowd, weaned on the "advanced" and "modern" products of
>Apple and <laughing> Microsoft.

There are many parallels between RPN calculators and desktop Linux.

"The people have rejected RPN.  The market share of RPN proves that it
is inferior.  It must suck to be an RPN user."  Etc, etc.

The idiocy.

Some trolls are so vile, so dishonest, that they would ridicule anyone
who claimed to be pro-choice but who uses an RPN calculator.  There is
a far-greater selection of algebraic calculators, you see.

-- 
'Ah, Linux, the "advantage" of less choice.'  -  "Snit", because the
Windows ecosystem has drivers for a broader range of PC motherboards.

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#532090

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2015-11-11 11:34 -0500
Message-ID<n1vql1$v7h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#532084
chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> -- 
> 'Ah, Linux, the "advantage" of less choice.'  -  "Snit", because the
> Windows ecosystem has drivers for a broader range of PC motherboards.

That applies far more to Mac than Linux!

-- 
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#532113

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-11 12:18 -0500
Message-ID<n1vt5c$at3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#532090
On 2015-11-11 11:34 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>> -- 
>> 'Ah, Linux, the "advantage" of less choice.'  -  "Snit", because the
>> Windows ecosystem has drivers for a broader range of PC motherboards.
> 
> That applies far more to Mac than Linux!

Speaking of Macs, I have to wonder why nobody has ever talked about the
quality of the motherboards Apple puts in its machines. As a PC user
knows, choosing an ASUS motherboard will likely improve your computer's
performance. It is certainly better than a Gigabyte, an MSI or an
AsRock. A great processor on poor hardware will simply give you poor
performance.

With that in mind, how does an Apple motherboard compare? I would
imagine that they use quality parts but does it perform the way an ASUS
would or is it closer to something like a DFI?


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#532338

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-12 10:23 -0700
Message-ID<D26A190C.639FE%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#532090
On 11/11/15, 9:34 AM, in article n1vql1$v7h$1@dont-email.me, "Chris
Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

> chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>> -- 
>> 'Ah, Linux, the "advantage" of less choice.'  -  "Snit", because the
>> Windows ecosystem has drivers for a broader range of PC motherboards.
> 
> That applies far more to Mac than Linux!

Mac users rarely run around claiming their choice offers more choices than
the others. Sure, in general it offers more choice than Linux (though not in
this area) but Windows is the "winner" when it comes to choices in
general... OS X the "winner" with choices for streamlining workflows (and
even then there are exceptions).

Linux offers the least choice. A million distros with a thousand DE's all
tied to a very limited ecosystem.


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* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
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* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
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