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LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves?

Started byKent Beeler <kenbee@jefffast.au>
First post2015-10-01 19:18 +0000
Last post2015-10-25 05:29 +0100
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  LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Kent Beeler <kenbee@jefffast.au> - 2015-10-01 19:18 +0000
    Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-01 22:00 +0200
      Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-02 05:58 +0200
        Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-10-02 13:41 -0700
          Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 15:56 -0700
        Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-03 07:10 +0200
          Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Kent Beeler <kenbee@jefffast.au> - 2015-10-03 15:00 +0000
            Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-03 21:31 +0200
              Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Kent Beeler <kenbee@jefffast.au> - 2015-10-03 21:20 +0000
                Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-04 05:30 +0200
                  Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 22:08 -0700
                  Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-10-04 06:14 +0000
                  Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Kent Beeler <kenbee@jefffast.au> - 2015-10-04 17:07 +0000
                    Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-04 22:32 +0200
                      Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Kent Beeler <kenbee@jefffast.au> - 2015-10-04 20:51 +0000
                      Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-10-04 16:39 -0500
                        Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Natalina Nazvarova <natana42@hotmail.com> - 2015-10-10 11:42 +0000
                      Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-04 18:50 -0400
                        Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 16:16 -0700
                Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 21:55 -0700
                  Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-10-05 17:32 -0700
                    Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 18:10 -0700
                      Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-10-05 18:32 -0700
                        Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 01:43 -0700
                          Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 21:36 -0700
                            Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 13:08 -0700
    Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 15:23 -0700
      Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 12:01 -0700
        Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 16:01 -0700
          Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 13:18 -0700
    Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Erebus Xanthopoulos <elefxa@spacepark.au> - 2015-10-24 11:13 +0000
      Re: LIGO experiment seen gravitational waves? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-25 05:29 +0100

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#524805

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2015-10-05 17:32 -0700
Message-ID<a7271766-e687-48b0-8244-c4e71327473b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#524472
On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 9:55:17 PM UTC-7, Y.Porat wrote:
> On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:20:35 AM UTC+3, Kent Beeler wrote:
> > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > 
> > >> That wave amplitude would be magnitude insignificant compared to that
> > >> of Earth. However, in principle that wave could be filtered out by a
> > >> proper LP filter applied numerically to the received data.
> > > 
> > > If waves are filtered out, than what waves could the device actually
> > > measure
> > 
> > Well, I meant taking out the Earth's offset, since the frequency of that 
> > wave must be in the Lower region. Sort of taking the DC out, or moving the 
> > zero axis up to the necessary level. Is done in software anyway.
> 
> ==========================
> i offered long ago
> to make an experiment to find out if
> 
> THERE IS SOME NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 
> g  AT NIGHT AND AT DAY!!...--
> ---at the same spot  on earth !!! 
> (even a long statistical experiment might be 
> relevant !!!
> 
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> =======================


My guess is that either at night or day the gravity would be less than at twilight time.

Double-A

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#524807

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-05 18:10 -0700
Message-ID<cfeab552-9c6c-48c6-886c-3ada349fac54@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#524805
On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 5:32:19 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 9:55:17 PM UTC-7, Y.Porat wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:20:35 AM UTC+3, Kent Beeler wrote:
> > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > 
> > > >> That wave amplitude would be magnitude insignificant compared to that
> > > >> of Earth. However, in principle that wave could be filtered out by a
> > > >> proper LP filter applied numerically to the received data.
> > > > 
> > > > If waves are filtered out, than what waves could the device actually
> > > > measure
> > > 
> > > Well, I meant taking out the Earth's offset, since the frequency of that 
> > > wave must be in the Lower region. Sort of taking the DC out, or moving the 
> > > zero axis up to the necessary level. Is done in software anyway.
> > 
> > ==========================
> > i offered long ago
> > to make an experiment to find out if
> > 
> > THERE IS SOME NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 
> > g  AT NIGHT AND AT DAY!!...--
> > ---at the same spot  on earth !!! 
> > (even a long statistical experiment might be 
> > relevant !!!
> > 
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > =======================
> 
> 
> My guess is that either at night or day the gravity would be less than at twilight time.
> 
> Double-A

AA Hot cup of tea weighs more than a cold cup.Treb tells me this.The grip on spacetime on mass is what in reality we are looking for. TreBert

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#524813

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2015-10-05 18:32 -0700
Message-ID<muv88d$bo1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#524807
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> Cretin Glazier "reber g=emc^2" wrote in message 
news:cfeab552-9c6c-48c6-886c-3ada349fac54@googlegroups.com...
> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 5:32:19 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
>> On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 9:55:17 PM UTC-7, Y.Porat wrote:
>> > On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:20:35 AM UTC+3, Kent Beeler wrote:
>> > > Thomas Heger wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >> That wave amplitude would be magnitude insignificant compared to 
>> > > >> that
>> > > >> of Earth. However, in principle that wave could be filtered out by 
>> > > >> a
>> > > >> proper LP filter applied numerically to the received data.
>> > > >
>> > > > If waves are filtered out, than what waves could the device 
>> > > > actually
>> > > > measure
>> > >
>> > > Well, I meant taking out the Earth's offset, since the frequency of 
>> > > that
>> > > wave must be in the Lower region. Sort of taking the DC out, or 
>> > > moving the
>> > > zero axis up to the necessary level. Is done in software anyway.
>> >
>> > ==========================
>> > i offered long ago
>> > to make an experiment to find out if
>> >
>> > THERE IS SOME NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
>> > g  AT NIGHT AND AT DAY!!...--
>> > ---at the same spot  on earth !!!
>> > (even a long statistical experiment might be
>> > relevant !!!
>> >
>> > TIA
>> > Y.Porat
>> > =======================
>>
>>
>> My guess is that either at night or day the gravity would be less than at 
>> twilight time.
>>
>> Double-A
>
> AA Hot cup of tea weighs more than a cold cup.Treb tells me this.The grip 
> on spacetime on mass is what in reality we are looking for, as long as it 
> is produced by Glazier's Gutter physics and his filthy Glazierola. TreBert 

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#524848

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-06 01:43 -0700
Message-ID<169c67dd-b9d1-4d27-afc0-b827aad6a7eb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#524813
There is a constant pressure from
all matter. It is at all the frequencies
at which matter radiates. It
pervades space.
Since bodies of matter also absorb
all these same frequencies, an
observer will always see less
pressure in the direction of a body
of matter. This is Gravity.

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#528010

From"Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-24 21:36 -0700
Message-ID<a2462563-042e-4342-9328-6f8f4a628a3d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#524848
On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 1:43:07 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
> There is a constant pressure from
> all matter. It is at all the frequencies
> at which matter radiates. It
> pervades space.
> Since bodies of matter also absorb
> all these same frequencies, an
> observer will always see less
> pressure in the direction of a body
> of matter. This is Gravity.

Some might have that gravity is pushing 
all things together, that their nuclear 
force binding energy establishes their 
volume as of balancing charge, then that 
the volume occludes gravity as pushing 
things together, instead of the objects 
pulling themselves together.

Basically everything is always falling 
into the origin, which is everywhere.

nuclear force
charge

gravity

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#528320

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-26 13:08 -0700
Message-ID<7ab80193-ed0d-4485-98d9-cd99bb77f602@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#528010
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 9:36:32 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 1:43:07 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
> > There is a constant pressure from
> > all matter. It is at all the frequencies
> > at which matter radiates. It
> > pervades space.
> > Since bodies of matter also absorb
> > all these same frequencies, an
> > observer will always see less
> > pressure in the direction of a body
> > of matter. This is Gravity.
> 
> Some might have that gravity is pushing 
> all things together, that their nuclear 
> force binding energy establishes their 
> volume as of balancing charge, then that 
> the volume occludes gravity as pushing 
> things together, instead of the objects 
> pulling themselves together.
> 
> Basically everything is always falling 
> into the origin, which is everywhere.
> 
> nuclear force
> charge
> 
> gravity

Inertia and gravity are the same.Both need nothing waving. TreBert

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#525333

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-08 15:23 -0700
Message-ID<ade0482e-8a9c-4435-b216-57ea6cedbf32@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#524106
On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 12:18:11 PM UTC-7, Kent Beeler wrote:
> On 25 September, a sensational rumour appeared on Twitter: 
> Lawrence Krauss, a cosmologist, reported hearing that the
> world's largest gravitational-wave observatory had seen a 
> signal, barely a week after its official re-opening.
> 
> http://www.nature.com/news/has-giant-ligo-experiment-seen-gravitational-waves-1.18449?WT.mc_id=SFB_NNEWS_1508_RHBox

So Far LIGO is still waiting to be hit by a gravity wave.Those that got the money to build it are still busy counting all that money. When they finish their greed will tell the tax payer they need just one more billion. LIGO is just away of stealing,and never going to jail. TreBert

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#525626

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-10 12:01 -0700
Message-ID<7395ee67-69ed-4e95-bc14-ef76377ae41e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#525333
On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 3:23:41 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 12:18:11 PM UTC-7, Kent Beeler wrote:
> > On 25 September, a sensational rumour appeared on Twitter: 
> > Lawrence Krauss, a cosmologist, reported hearing that the
> > world's largest gravitational-wave observatory had seen a 
> > signal, barely a week after its official re-opening.
> > 
> > http://www.nature.com/news/has-giant-ligo-experiment-seen-gravitational-waves-1.18449?WT.mc_id=SFB_NNEWS_1508_RHBox
> 
> So Far LIGO is still waiting to be hit by a gravity wave.Those that got the money to build it are still busy counting all that money. When they finish their greed will tell the tax payer they need just one more billion. LIGO is just away of stealing,and never going to jail. TreBert

GOP Mafia loves LIGO.I hate it.GOP Mafia know it now can fool the people some times,and now all of the time.They are the POWER and the GLORY.Think Bush and 13.5 trillion $$$$$ and giving tax credits ro factories if they moved to China.Think of thr 43 years of Micky Mouse shuttlers that killed 12 people,and could only go up 200 miles.Think of Nixon and Walter Annenberg scraping the great Sarurn V that got us to the moon over and over again. Now we have to buy China or Russian rockets to go to the ISS.GOP Mafia will sell USA if the price is right. Ben Franklin said THE PRESS WILL BE THE WATCH DOG.O Ya.GOP Mafia uses the press to cover up all their fraud and corruprion.  TreBert

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#525920

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-12 16:01 -0700
Message-ID<7cc5b984-7c42-43f9-b072-40793bd289aa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#525626
On Saturday, October 10, 2015 at 12:01:08 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 3:23:41 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 12:18:11 PM UTC-7, Kent Beeler wrote:
> > > On 25 September, a sensational rumour appeared on Twitter: 
> > > Lawrence Krauss, a cosmologist, reported hearing that the
> > > world's largest gravitational-wave observatory had seen a 
> > > signal, barely a week after its official re-opening.
> > > 
> > > http://www.nature.com/news/has-giant-ligo-experiment-seen-gravitational-waves-1.18449?WT.mc_id=SFB_NNEWS_1508_RHBox
> > 
> > So Far LIGO is still waiting to be hit by a gravity wave.Those that got the money to build it are still busy counting all that money. When they finish their greed will tell the tax payer they need just one more billion. LIGO is just away of stealing,and never going to jail. TreBert
> 
> GOP Mafia loves LIGO.I hate it.GOP Mafia know it now can fool the people some times,and now all of the time.They are the POWER and the GLORY.Think Bush and 13.5 trillion $$$$$ and giving tax credits ro factories if they moved to China.Think of thr 43 years of Micky Mouse shuttlers that killed 12 people,and could only go up 200 miles.Think of Nixon and Walter Annenberg scraping the great Sarurn V that got us to the moon over and over again. Now we have to buy China or Russian rockets to go to the ISS.GOP Mafia will sell USA if the price is right. Ben Franklin said THE PRESS WILL BE THE WATCH DOG.O Ya.GOP Mafia uses the press to cover up all their fraud and corruprion.  TreBert

LIGO I relate to the shuttles.Both built by GOP Mafia.Both useless. TreBert

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#527951

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-24 13:18 -0700
Message-ID<400cf6bf-fe28-495f-a8e2-218da51d9a62@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#525920
On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 4:01:23 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Saturday, October 10, 2015 at 12:01:08 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 3:23:41 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 12:18:11 PM UTC-7, Kent Beeler wrote:
> > > > On 25 September, a sensational rumour appeared on Twitter: 
> > > > Lawrence Krauss, a cosmologist, reported hearing that the
> > > > world's largest gravitational-wave observatory had seen a 
> > > > signal, barely a week after its official re-opening.
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.nature.com/news/has-giant-ligo-experiment-seen-gravitational-waves-1.18449?WT.mc_id=SFB_NNEWS_1508_RHBox
> > > 
> > > So Far LIGO is still waiting to be hit by a gravity wave.Those that got the money to build it are still busy counting all that money. When they finish their greed will tell the tax payer they need just one more billion. LIGO is just away of stealing,and never going to jail. TreBert
> > 
> > GOP Mafia loves LIGO.I hate it.GOP Mafia know it now can fool the people some times,and now all of the time.They are the POWER and the GLORY.Think Bush and 13.5 trillion $$$$$ and giving tax credits ro factories if they moved to China.Think of thr 43 years of Micky Mouse shuttlers that killed 12 people,and could only go up 200 miles.Think of Nixon and Walter Annenberg scraping the great Sarurn V that got us to the moon over and over again. Now we have to buy China or Russian rockets to go to the ISS.GOP Mafia will sell USA if the price is right. Ben Franklin said THE PRESS WILL BE THE WATCH DOG.O Ya.GOP Mafia uses the press to cover up all their fraud and corruprion.  TreBert
> 
> LIGO I relate to the shuttles.Both built by GOP Mafia.Both useless. TreBert

Mafia NASA is thinking how it can lie,and get away with it as I type.They are so devious so dishonest.Think Nixon,Bush,Red Cross,Shuttles,and 20 trillion in the red.Think inside trading.Tax breaks for rich.What the police do to protesters. The worse is on its way as told to us by Buffit.TreBert

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#527849

FromErebus Xanthopoulos <elefxa@spacepark.au>
Date2015-10-24 11:13 +0000
Message-ID<n0fp50$kav$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#524106
Gary Harnagel wrote:

>> So we need to define the meter first, to make a useful statement about
>> the speed of light in meters per second.
> 
> No, we don't.  Suppose we call the unit of speed one uggam.  We have the
> unit of time is one second.  Then distance is uggams times seconds.

Another pearl out of harnagelstein. That distance is useless, not 
specifying the length of it, in relation to some other lengths. Heger is 
consistent, you don't.

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#528009

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2015-10-25 05:29 +0100
Message-ID<d9345kFdnp2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#527849
Am 24.10.2015 13:13, schrieb Erebus Xanthopoulos:
> Gary Harnagel wrote:
>
>>> So we need to define the meter first, to make a useful statement about
>>> the speed of light in meters per second.
>>
>> No, we don't.  Suppose we call the unit of speed one uggam.  We have the
>> unit of time is one second.  Then distance is uggams times seconds.
>
> Another pearl out of harnagelstein. That distance is useless, not
> specifying the length of it, in relation to some other lengths. Heger is
> consistent, you don't.

It is kind of 'disease' and all the physicists are 'infected'. It's 
called 'mathematism'.

Physicists are happy if both sides of the equal sing fit together. But 
then refuse to answer the question, what the symbols actually represent 
any why they assume, they should be equal.

So we have a formula like v= dx/dt and   'Gary Harnagel' refuses to 
accept the meaning of the term 'x'.

That makes me wonder, what these guys actually do all day.

TH

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