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Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon

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  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-03 12:52 -0400
    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-03 17:07 +0000
      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-04 15:20 +0000
        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-04 18:35 +0000
          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-04-04 12:14 -0700
          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 12:58 -0700
          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jack Ryan <mixmaster@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-04-05 03:50 -0400
            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-05 18:20 +0000
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 16:14 -0700
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-05 18:47 -0500
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 00:00 -0700
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-07 06:10 -0400
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 18:51 +0000
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-08 14:23 -0500
                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:25 -0700
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 09:57 -0500
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:20 -0700
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 00:28 +0000
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-05 22:14 -0400
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 03:38 +0000
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 00:07 -0700
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-07 06:24 -0400
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:03 +0000
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-05 19:53 -0600
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 03:42 +0000
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-05 23:06 -0600
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 18:05 +0000
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 12:34 -0700
                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-07 19:18 +0000
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 13:04 -0700
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-07 21:07 +0000
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 00:03 -0700
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-08 17:50 +0000
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:03 -0700
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-08 21:47 +0000
                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:24 -0700
                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-09 13:55 +0000
                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 10:08 -0500
                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 08:51 -0700
                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:07 +0000
                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 12:49 -0700
                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:16 +0000
                                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:07 -0700
                                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 06:16 +0000
                                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:46 -0700
                                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 16:23 +0000
                                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:19 -0700
                                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 22:49 +0000
                                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 20:02 -0700
                                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 04:05 +0000
                                                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 01:41 -0700
                                                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 18:18 +0000
                                                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:20 -0700
                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-10 12:06 +0000
                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:57 -0700
                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-10 14:17 +0000
                                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 08:26 -0700
                                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-10 16:40 +0000
                                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 15:38 -0700
                                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-11 19:06 +0000
                                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 19:50 +0000
                                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 20:02 -0700
                                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 17:16 +0000
                                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:54 -0700
                                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 17:18 +0000
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 20:26 +0000
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 14:46 -0700
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 22:52 +0000
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 21:25 -0400
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 23:49 -0700
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 18:24 +0000
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:10 -0700
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 22:40 +0000
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:55 -0700
                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 06:11 +0000
                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 07:49 -0700
                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:21 +0000
                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 12:57 -0700
                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:29 +0000
                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:30 -0700
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-09 00:01 -0600
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-04-09 09:21 +0100
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:24 +0000
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-09 15:49 +0000
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 09:01 -0700
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 14:22 -0400
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:26 +0000
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:45 -0700
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 19:08 +0000
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:22 -0700
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:41 +0000
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:50 -0700
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-06 17:39 +0000
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 18:08 +0000
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 12:36 -0700
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:06 +0000
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 12:59 -0700
                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 20:28 +0000
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 23:52 -0700
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 18:26 +0000
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:14 -0700
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 22:42 +0000
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:57 -0700
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 06:14 +0000
                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 07:52 -0700
                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-09 10:09 -0500
                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:31 +0000
                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:00 -0700
                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:34 +0000
                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:42 -0700
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-07 15:55 +0000
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 19:14 +0000
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-09 14:54 +0000
                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:36 +0000
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:00 -0700
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:36 +0000
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 19:44 -0700
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 06:19 +0000
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:47 -0700
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-09 18:17 -0600
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 00:37 +0000
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-10 16:50 +0000
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 17:13 +0000
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-11 16:41 +0000
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 18:21 +0000
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-12 15:48 +0000
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 17:21 +0000
          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-05 17:42 +0000
            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-05 18:32 +0000
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 15:09 -0400
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-05 18:54 -0500
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-05 19:57 -0600
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-06 17:56 +0000
                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 18:35 +0000
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 15:43 -0400
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 20:08 +0000
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 16:35 -0700
                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 23:49 +0000
                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 19:28 -0700
                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 03:51 +0000
                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 22:06 -0700
                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 06:17 +0000
                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 12:32 -0700
                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 20:33 +0000
                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 00:01 -0700
                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 18:32 +0000
                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 13:16 -0700
                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 22:52 +0000
                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 21:59 -0700
                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 06:18 +0000
                                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 07:57 -0700
                                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 18:45 +0000
                                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:05 -0700
                                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 20:54 +0000
                                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 20:01 -0700
                                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 16:42 +0000
                                                              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 16:12 -0700
                                                                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 01:10 +0000
                                                                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 20:22 -0700
                                                                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 06:09 +0000
                                                                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 07:36 -0700
                                                                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 18:26 +0000
                                                                          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:24 -0700
                                                                            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 17:24 +0000
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 04:43 -0700
                  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 12:51 -0700
                    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-06 22:06 +0000
                      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 17:11 -0700
                        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-07 04:30 +0000
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#569069

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-08 13:14 -0700
Message-ID<t24ggbdbp743phth3gbdas2rqf47nnm5gi@4ax.com>
In reply to#569021
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> For your reference, records indicate that 
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No successful colony in history required anything beyond 10th Century
>>>>>>>>> technology to survive.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Because thats just the nature of how time works.  In a future where 
>>>>>>>> humanity is looking to colonize planets around other stars, some yahoo 
>>>>>>>> like you will likely crawl out of the woodwork and say something like 
>>>>>>>> No successful planetary colony in history required anything beyond 
>>>>>>>> 22nd Century technology to survive.?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If Star Trek technology were available, then off Earth colonization
>>>>>>>would be possible, but Star Trek technology doesn't exist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And apparently neither does logic in your world.  If magic existed,
>>>>>> then the colonization of North America would have been possible, but
>>>>>> magic doesn't exist.
>>>>> 
>>>>>Non sequitur; 
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Glad you got my point, which was mocking your original remark as being
>>>> a non sequitur (and a violation of the rules of basic logic).
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>Don't you really mean I have gored your ox of space cadets hanging
>>>out in Martian bars?
>>>
>> 
>> No, I'm not responsible for your silly and ignorant delusions.
>> 
>> Take a logic course, Chimp.  You're saying "If A then we could B" and
>> trying to parlay that into "We cannot B without A", which is a totally
>> different proposition and a basic logical fallacy.
>>
> 
>No, I am saying no one is going to pony up the many trillions of dollars
>required to even begin to build a real colony off the Earth.
>

Not what you said at all.  Where'd you get your cost (other than out
of your ass, I mean)?  Never heard of Elon Musk?  His numbers don't
agree with yours and when it comes to that sort of thing, I think I'm
going to believe him over you.


-- 
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
 truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
                               -- Thomas Jefferson

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#569096

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-08 22:42 +0000
Message-ID<jnoltc-fb8.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#569069
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> For your reference, records indicate that 
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> No successful colony in history required anything beyond 10th Century
>>>>>>>>>> technology to survive.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Because thats just the nature of how time works.  In a future where 
>>>>>>>>> humanity is looking to colonize planets around other stars, some yahoo 
>>>>>>>>> like you will likely crawl out of the woodwork and say something like 
>>>>>>>>> No successful planetary colony in history required anything beyond 
>>>>>>>>> 22nd Century technology to survive.?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If Star Trek technology were available, then off Earth colonization
>>>>>>>>would be possible, but Star Trek technology doesn't exist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And apparently neither does logic in your world.  If magic existed,
>>>>>>> then the colonization of North America would have been possible, but
>>>>>>> magic doesn't exist.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Non sequitur; 
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Glad you got my point, which was mocking your original remark as being
>>>>> a non sequitur (and a violation of the rules of basic logic).
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>Don't you really mean I have gored your ox of space cadets hanging
>>>>out in Martian bars?
>>>>
>>> 
>>> No, I'm not responsible for your silly and ignorant delusions.
>>> 
>>> Take a logic course, Chimp.  You're saying "If A then we could B" and
>>> trying to parlay that into "We cannot B without A", which is a totally
>>> different proposition and a basic logical fallacy.
>>>
>> 
>>No, I am saying no one is going to pony up the many trillions of dollars
>>required to even begin to build a real colony off the Earth.
>>
> 
> Not what you said at all.  Where'd you get your cost (other than out
> of your ass, I mean)?  Never heard of Elon Musk?  His numbers don't
> agree with yours and when it comes to that sort of thing, I think I'm
> going to believe him over you.
 
Yeah, I've heard of Elon Musk; he's that guy that makes cars that don't
make a profit.

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#569135

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-08 21:57 -0700
Message-ID<es2hgb58jsqo30hngsbh792oulod63pje4@4ax.com>
In reply to#569096
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> For your reference, records indicate that 
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No successful colony in history required anything beyond 10th Century
>>>>>>>>>>> technology to survive.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Because thats just the nature of how time works.  In a future where 
>>>>>>>>>> humanity is looking to colonize planets around other stars, some yahoo 
>>>>>>>>>> like you will likely crawl out of the woodwork and say something like 
>>>>>>>>>> No successful planetary colony in history required anything beyond 
>>>>>>>>>> 22nd Century technology to survive.?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If Star Trek technology were available, then off Earth colonization
>>>>>>>>>would be possible, but Star Trek technology doesn't exist.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And apparently neither does logic in your world.  If magic existed,
>>>>>>>> then the colonization of North America would have been possible, but
>>>>>>>> magic doesn't exist.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Non sequitur; 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Glad you got my point, which was mocking your original remark as being
>>>>>> a non sequitur (and a violation of the rules of basic logic).
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>Don't you really mean I have gored your ox of space cadets hanging
>>>>>out in Martian bars?
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> No, I'm not responsible for your silly and ignorant delusions.
>>>> 
>>>> Take a logic course, Chimp.  You're saying "If A then we could B" and
>>>> trying to parlay that into "We cannot B without A", which is a totally
>>>> different proposition and a basic logical fallacy.
>>>>
>>> 
>>>No, I am saying no one is going to pony up the many trillions of dollars
>>>required to even begin to build a real colony off the Earth.
>>>
>> 
>> Not what you said at all.  Where'd you get your cost (other than out
>> of your ass, I mean)?  Never heard of Elon Musk?  His numbers don't
>> agree with yours and when it comes to that sort of thing, I think I'm
>> going to believe him over you.
> 
>Yeah, I've heard of Elon Musk; he's that guy that makes cars that don't
>make a profit.
>

Yeah, he only has a net worth of $13B.  How are YOU doing?


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#569195

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-09 06:14 +0000
Message-ID<d6jmtc-mua.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#569135
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
 
>>Yeah, I've heard of Elon Musk; he's that guy that makes cars that don't
>>make a profit.
>>
> 
> Yeah, he only has a net worth of $13B.  How are YOU doing?
 
Just fine, thanks for asking, but I don't see what my economic status
has to do with a Martian colony other than I think it would be a waste
of tax dollars.

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#569216

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-09 07:52 -0700
Message-ID<5k5igb59ph5i5u1r0uu51j8tkqnu5815tb@4ax.com>
In reply to#569195
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>>Yeah, I've heard of Elon Musk; he's that guy that makes cars that don't
>>>make a profit.
>>>
>> 
>> Yeah, he only has a net worth of $13B.  How are YOU doing?
> 
>Just fine, thanks for asking, but I don't see what my economic status
>has to do with a Martian colony other than I think it would be a waste
>of tax dollars.
>

Why, Elon is one of those 'space cadets' you denigrate as never having
done anything or built anything.  Surely someone like you, a
non-'space cadet' with all that world experience would be doing better
than us 'space cadets', right?

Well, apparently not...


-- 
You are 
What you do 
When it counts.

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#569226

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-04-09 10:09 -0500
Message-ID<neb60c$f5e$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#569216
On 4/9/2016 9:52 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
>> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Well, apparently not...
>
>
 > Oven.  Whatever is needed.  Oven.  Whatever it needs to.

no answer ?    try to think it through.

          man needs 500 liters of O2 per day
     there are 10 men up there, 2 are needed to run the O2 plant, and 2 
are needed to run the Water plant, and 2 are needed to run the N2 plant.

so your O2 flow rate is 5,000 liters per day,
your N2 flow rate is 15,000 liters per day (assume a 25% O2)
and about 7.5 liters of water per day per person

so how many tons rocks do you cook per day ?
How much energy is needed to run the rock cooking plant?
What type of rocks work for O2 that are on the surface ?

where do you get  24 liters of water per day ? (assume a 25% recapture rate)

Biofilm questions: where does the lost water go? will the biofilm cause 
dammage to the electronics?  How much energy is used to keep the 
Humidity down to below 70% ?

how do you reprocess the salt bath used for cooking the rocks ?

What rocks do you cook to get N2 ???

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#569251

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-09 18:31 +0000
Message-ID<jduntc-2gf.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#569216
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>>Yeah, I've heard of Elon Musk; he's that guy that makes cars that don't
>>>>make a profit.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Yeah, he only has a net worth of $13B.  How are YOU doing?
>> 
>>Just fine, thanks for asking, but I don't see what my economic status
>>has to do with a Martian colony other than I think it would be a waste
>>of tax dollars.
>>
> 
> Why, Elon is one of those 'space cadets' you denigrate as never having
> done anything or built anything.  Surely someone like you, a
> non-'space cadet' with all that world experience would be doing better
> than us 'space cadets', right?

Nope, there go the voices in you head again.

All I said about Elon Musk is that he is the guy that builds the cars
that have never made a profit, which is a statement of fact.

What I did say was that it is obvious YOU have never built anything
or have the slightest clue what doing so takes.
 
> Well, apparently not...
 
If net worth is your standard, then you REALLY must be in love with the
Kardashians.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#569269

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-09 13:00 -0700
Message-ID<tlnigbhhv4em3esbpng5cdufh9rtc7d893@4ax.com>
In reply to#569251
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>Yeah, I've heard of Elon Musk; he's that guy that makes cars that don't
>>>>>make a profit.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, he only has a net worth of $13B.  How are YOU doing?
>>> 
>>>Just fine, thanks for asking, but I don't see what my economic status
>>>has to do with a Martian colony other than I think it would be a waste
>>>of tax dollars.
>>>
>> 
>> Why, Elon is one of those 'space cadets' you denigrate as never having
>> done anything or built anything.  Surely someone like you, a
>> non-'space cadet' with all that world experience would be doing better
>> than us 'space cadets', right?
>
>Nope, there go the voices in you head again.
>

Well, if you'd STFU the most annoying one would go away.

>
>All I said about Elon Musk is that he is the guy that builds the cars
>that have never made a profit, which is a statement of fact.
>

But he's a 'space cadet' and you've characterized them as "have never
built anything or have the slightest clue what doing so takes".

>
>What I did say was that it is obvious YOU have never built anything
>or have the slightest clue what doing so takes.
>

I'm sure many egregiously stupid things are 'obvious' to you.
 
>
>> Well, apparently not...
> 
>If net worth is your standard, then you REALLY must be in love with the
>Kardashians.
> 

They've done more than you have.  Which is a really sad commentary on
you...


-- 
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
 only stupid."
                            -- Heinrich Heine 

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#569288

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-09 20:34 +0000
Message-ID<ek5otc-q7g.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#569269
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>Yeah, I've heard of Elon Musk; he's that guy that makes cars that don't
>>>>>>make a profit.
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, he only has a net worth of $13B.  How are YOU doing?
>>>> 
>>>>Just fine, thanks for asking, but I don't see what my economic status
>>>>has to do with a Martian colony other than I think it would be a waste
>>>>of tax dollars.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Why, Elon is one of those 'space cadets' you denigrate as never having
>>> done anything or built anything.  Surely someone like you, a
>>> non-'space cadet' with all that world experience would be doing better
>>> than us 'space cadets', right?
>>
>>Nope, there go the voices in you head again.
>>
> 
> Well, if you'd STFU the most annoying one would go away.

No, I'm afraid it would take far more than that.

>>All I said about Elon Musk is that he is the guy that builds the cars
>>that have never made a profit, which is a statement of fact.
>>
> 
> But he's a 'space cadet' and you've characterized them as "have never
> built anything or have the slightest clue what doing so takes".

Those voices again.

Nope, see below.

>>
>>What I did say was that it is obvious YOU have never built anything
>>or have the slightest clue what doing so takes.
>>
> 
> I'm sure many egregiously stupid things are 'obvious' to you.

So what thing, i.e. something tangible, have you built that you are
most proud of?

Putting an IKEA bookcase together doesn't count.

>>> Well, apparently not...
>> 
>>If net worth is your standard, then you REALLY must be in love with the
>>Kardashians.
>> 
> 
> They've done more than you have.  Which is a really sad commentary on
> you...

Well they do have a lot more arrests than I do, but I'm nod jealous.
 
So you are gaga over celebrities.

How long did you cry when Princess Di died?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#569346

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-09 19:42 -0700
Message-ID<9oejgbt4ubakfgrmbm3k9nccibat7mopuk@4ax.com>
In reply to#569288
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Yeah, I've heard of Elon Musk; he's that guy that makes cars that don't
>>>>>>>make a profit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yeah, he only has a net worth of $13B.  How are YOU doing?
>>>>> 
>>>>>Just fine, thanks for asking, but I don't see what my economic status
>>>>>has to do with a Martian colony other than I think it would be a waste
>>>>>of tax dollars.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Why, Elon is one of those 'space cadets' you denigrate as never having
>>>> done anything or built anything.  Surely someone like you, a
>>>> non-'space cadet' with all that world experience would be doing better
>>>> than us 'space cadets', right?
>>>
>>>Nope, there go the voices in you head again.
>>>
>> 
>> Well, if you'd STFU the most annoying one would go away.
>>
>
>No, I'm afraid it would take far more than that.
>

No need to be afraid, chimp.  The future is coming without you.

>>>All I said about Elon Musk is that he is the guy that builds the cars
>>>that have never made a profit, which is a statement of fact.
>>>
>> 
>> But he's a 'space cadet' and you've characterized them as "have never
>> built anything or have the slightest clue what doing so takes".
>>
>
>Those voices again.
>

Especially that annoying one from your direction.

>
>Nope, see below.
>

Yep, changing your story now doesn't change your original remark with
regard to all those 'space cadets'.

>>>
>>>What I did say was that it is obvious YOU have never built anything
>>>or have the slightest clue what doing so takes.
>>>
>> 
>> I'm sure many egregiously stupid things are 'obvious' to you.
>>
>
>So what thing, i.e. something tangible, have you built that you are
>most proud of?
>

You first, monkey boy.  I just retired after 32 years as an engineer
whose job was designing and making things to cost and schedule.

So what have you done?

>
>Putting an IKEA bookcase together doesn't count.
>

Trying to erect barriers to progress doesn't count.

>>>> Well, apparently not...
>>> 
>>>If net worth is your standard, then you REALLY must be in love with the
>>>Kardashians.
>>> 
>> 
>> They've done more than you have.  Which is a really sad commentary on
>> you...
>>
>
>Well they do have a lot more arrests than I do, but I'm nod jealous.
>

Yet you haven't been able to parlay your bullshit into money and they
have.
 
>
>So you are gaga over celebrities.
>

Why would you say that?  Where did I say it?  Stop lying, Jimp.
Thinking that someone has done more than you have is pretty far from
'gaga'.

>
>How long did you cry when Princess Di died?
>

Why would I care?  If you weren't just a chimp I'd tell you to stop
throwing gorilla dust.


-- 
You are 
What you do 
When it counts.

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#568584

FromDoc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com>
Date2016-04-07 15:55 +0000
Message-ID<ne5vud$a34$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#568342
For your reference, records indicate that 
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> And if Star Trek technology did exist, people wouldn't bother attempting
> to colonize airless, barren rocks.

Stupid people will always try to inhabit stupid places for stupid reasons.  
Access to technology that makes it easier to do so only makes the problem 
*worse*.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Everest
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_sprawl

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#568641

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-07 19:14 +0000
Message-ID<g5oitc-mir.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#568584
In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> And if Star Trek technology did exist, people wouldn't bother attempting
>> to colonize airless, barren rocks.
> 
> Stupid people will always try to inhabit stupid places for stupid reasons.  
> Access to technology that makes it easier to do so only makes the problem 
> *worse*.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Everest
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_sprawl
 
Perhaps I should have said the vast majority of people wouldn't bother
attempting to colonize airless, barren rocks.

There will always be hermits in one form or another, but a colony implies
a community with families and kids.

If Star Trek technology did exist, there are currently several million
refugees in Europe that would jump at the chance to colonize somewhere
else, but not an airless, barren rock.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#569219

FromDoc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com>
Date2016-04-09 14:54 +0000
Message-ID<neb541$ip7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#568641
For your reference, records indicate that 
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> Perhaps I should have said the vast majority of people wouldn't bother
> attempting to colonize airless, barren rocks.

That’s another non-statement.  Whether settling new frontiers is easy or 
difficult, it has never been something the “vast majority” did.  All it 
takes is enough of them to do it, and survive, and spread.

> If Star Trek technology did exist, there are currently several million
> refugees in Europe that would jump at the chance to colonize somewhere
> else, but not an airless, barren rock.

Nonsense.  If you have Trek tech, it won’t be airless and barren for 
long.  Or, hell, the whole habitat could be nothing but a holodeck!

Your solutions lack imagination.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#569252

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-09 18:36 +0000
Message-ID<1muntc-2gf.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#569219
In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> Perhaps I should have said the vast majority of people wouldn't bother
>> attempting to colonize airless, barren rocks.
> 
> Thats another non-statement.  Whether settling new frontiers is easy or 
> difficult, it has never been something the vast majority”did.  All it 
> takes is enough of them to do it, and survive, and spread.
> 
>> If Star Trek technology did exist, there are currently several million
>> refugees in Europe that would jump at the chance to colonize somewhere
>> else, but not an airless, barren rock.
> 
> Nonsense.  If you have Trek tech, it wont be airless and barren for 
> long.  Or, hell, the whole habitat could be nothing but a holodeck!
> 
> Your solutions lack imagination.

Note that even in Star Trek, the coloies were agrarian, they did very
little in the way of terraforming, and when they did, they didn't
start with airless rocks.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#569270

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-09 13:00 -0700
Message-ID<vqnigb93utgpom3d77em13be2c0d2sm75n@4ax.com>
In reply to#569252
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>> For your reference, records indicate that 
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Perhaps I should have said the vast majority of people wouldn't bother
>>> attempting to colonize airless, barren rocks.
>> 
>> Thats another non-statement.  Whether settling new frontiers is easy or 
>> difficult, it has never been something the vast majority”did.  All it 
>> takes is enough of them to do it, and survive, and spread.
>> 
>>> If Star Trek technology did exist, there are currently several million
>>> refugees in Europe that would jump at the chance to colonize somewhere
>>> else, but not an airless, barren rock.
>> 
>> Nonsense.  If you have Trek tech, it wont be airless and barren for 
>> long.  Or, hell, the whole habitat could be nothing but a holodeck!
>> 
>> Your solutions lack imagination.
>
>Note that even in Star Trek, the coloies were agrarian, they did very
>little in the way of terraforming, and when they did, they didn't
>start with airless rocks.
> 

Note that you're the only one whose head is up and locked about Star
Trek.


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#569289

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-09 20:36 +0000
Message-ID<lm5otc-q7g.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#569270
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>> For your reference, records indicate that 
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Perhaps I should have said the vast majority of people wouldn't bother
>>>> attempting to colonize airless, barren rocks.
>>> 
>>> Thats another non-statement.  Whether settling new frontiers is easy or 
>>> difficult, it has never been something the vast majority?did.  All it 
>>> takes is enough of them to do it, and survive, and spread.
>>> 
>>>> If Star Trek technology did exist, there are currently several million
>>>> refugees in Europe that would jump at the chance to colonize somewhere
>>>> else, but not an airless, barren rock.
>>> 
>>> Nonsense.  If you have Trek tech, it wont be airless and barren for 
>>> long.  Or, hell, the whole habitat could be nothing but a holodeck!
>>> 
>>> Your solutions lack imagination.
>>
>>Note that even in Star Trek, the coloies were agrarian, they did very
>>little in the way of terraforming, and when they did, they didn't
>>start with airless rocks.
>> 
> 
> Note that you're the only one whose head is up and locked about Star
> Trek.
 
Note that even in science fiction your ideas are childish.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#569347

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-09 19:44 -0700
Message-ID<2dfjgb1sgn6p8mtqgf0q2pd3tbqnifd232@4ax.com>
In reply to#569289
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>>> For your reference, records indicate that 
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps I should have said the vast majority of people wouldn't bother
>>>>> attempting to colonize airless, barren rocks.
>>>> 
>>>> Thats another non-statement.  Whether settling new frontiers is easy or 
>>>> difficult, it has never been something the vast majority?did.  All it 
>>>> takes is enough of them to do it, and survive, and spread.
>>>> 
>>>>> If Star Trek technology did exist, there are currently several million
>>>>> refugees in Europe that would jump at the chance to colonize somewhere
>>>>> else, but not an airless, barren rock.
>>>> 
>>>> Nonsense.  If you have Trek tech, it wont be airless and barren for 
>>>> long.  Or, hell, the whole habitat could be nothing but a holodeck!
>>>> 
>>>> Your solutions lack imagination.
>>>
>>>Note that even in Star Trek, the coloies were agrarian, they did very
>>>little in the way of terraforming, and when they did, they didn't
>>>start with airless rocks.
>>> 
>> 
>> Note that you're the only one whose head is up and locked about Star
>> Trek.
>>
> 
>Note that even in science fiction your ideas are childish.
>

Which ideas are those, chimp?  You're the one who seems childish, at
the level of a two year old.  "No!" and then call names, distort, and
lie when your 'logic' explodes in your face.


-- 
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
 only stupid."
                            -- Heinrich Heine 

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#569418

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-10 06:19 +0000
Message-ID<sr7ptc-3mj.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#569347
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>>>> For your reference, records indicate that 
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Perhaps I should have said the vast majority of people wouldn't bother
>>>>>> attempting to colonize airless, barren rocks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thats another non-statement.  Whether settling new frontiers is easy or 
>>>>> difficult, it has never been something the vast majority?did.  All it 
>>>>> takes is enough of them to do it, and survive, and spread.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> If Star Trek technology did exist, there are currently several million
>>>>>> refugees in Europe that would jump at the chance to colonize somewhere
>>>>>> else, but not an airless, barren rock.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nonsense.  If you have Trek tech, it wont be airless and barren for 
>>>>> long.  Or, hell, the whole habitat could be nothing but a holodeck!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your solutions lack imagination.
>>>>
>>>>Note that even in Star Trek, the coloies were agrarian, they did very
>>>>little in the way of terraforming, and when they did, they didn't
>>>>start with airless rocks.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Note that you're the only one whose head is up and locked about Star
>>> Trek.
>>>
>> 
>>Note that even in science fiction your ideas are childish.
>>
> 
> Which ideas are those, chimp?  You're the one who seems childish, at
> the level of a two year old.  "No!" and then call names, distort, and
> lie when your 'logic' explodes in your face.
 
Childish in thinking that women would want to raise children on a barren,
lifeless rock.

Childish in thinking very many people would want to spend their lives
in what would amount to a buried submarine.



-- 
Jim Pennino

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#569425

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-10 06:47 -0700
Message-ID<r9mkgb5aorfk38j11rq6koukpson9fpo3r@4ax.com>
In reply to#569418
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>>>>> For your reference, records indicate that 
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Perhaps I should have said the vast majority of people wouldn't bother
>>>>>>> attempting to colonize airless, barren rocks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thats another non-statement.  Whether settling new frontiers is easy or 
>>>>>> difficult, it has never been something the vast majority?did.  All it 
>>>>>> takes is enough of them to do it, and survive, and spread.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If Star Trek technology did exist, there are currently several million
>>>>>>> refugees in Europe that would jump at the chance to colonize somewhere
>>>>>>> else, but not an airless, barren rock.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nonsense.  If you have Trek tech, it wont be airless and barren for 
>>>>>> long.  Or, hell, the whole habitat could be nothing but a holodeck!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your solutions lack imagination.
>>>>>
>>>>>Note that even in Star Trek, the coloies were agrarian, they did very
>>>>>little in the way of terraforming, and when they did, they didn't
>>>>>start with airless rocks.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Note that you're the only one whose head is up and locked about Star
>>>> Trek.
>>>>
>>> 
>>>Note that even in science fiction your ideas are childish.
>>>
>> 
>> Which ideas are those, chimp?  You're the one who seems childish, at
>> the level of a two year old.  "No!" and then call names, distort, and
>> lie when your 'logic' explodes in your face.
>>
> 
>Childish in thinking that women would want to raise children on a barren,
>lifeless rock.
>

Mars One - 45% women.  Sorry to cloud the issue with facts.

>
>Childish in thinking very many people would want to spend their lives
>in what would amount to a buried submarine.
>

Mars One - 200,000 volunteers in a very short interval.  Sorry to
cloud the issue with facts.


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#569314

FromGreg Goss <gossg@gossg.org>
Date2016-04-09 18:17 -0600
Message-ID<dmtkbsFchbqU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#569252
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>Note that even in Star Trek, the coloies were agrarian, they did very
>little in the way of terraforming, and when they did, they didn't
>start with airless rocks.

Well, except for movie two.  Did they ever reuse that tech after that?
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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