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Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics

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First post2015-09-18 10:50 -0700
Last post2015-09-23 05:47 +0200
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  Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-18 10:50 -0700
    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 14:53 -0400
      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 15:33 -0400
        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-18 20:03 +0000
          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 18:03 -0400
            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-18 17:13 -0700
              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:06 -0400
            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 23:04 -0400
              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-19 04:48 +0000
                Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:08 -0400
                  Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 13:22 -0700
                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 13:43 -0700
                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 13:54 -0700
                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-19 15:51 -0700
                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-21 20:54 +0200
                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-21 14:03 -0700
                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-21 14:45 -0700
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-22 05:43 +0200
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-21 22:16 -0700
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-22 01:29 -0400
                Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 09:35 -0700
                  Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-19 18:12 +0000
                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 13:22 -0500
                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-19 18:42 +0000
                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 13:58 -0500
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-19 20:13 +0000
                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 12:54 -0700
                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 16:30 -0400
                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 13:22 -0700
                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-19 22:23 +0000
                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 17:10 -0700
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 01:15 +0000
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-19 22:33 -0400
                              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 03:09 +0000
                              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 00:45 -0400
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 20:17 -0700
                              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 05:35 +0000
                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 00:20 +0000
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 01:20 +0000
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 15:28 +0000
                              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 17:22 +0000
                                Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 18:18 +0000
                                  Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-20 11:31 -0700
                                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 18:50 +0000
                                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-20 19:06 +0000
                                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 20:49 +0000
                                  Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 18:46 +0000
                                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 20:53 +0000
                                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 21:31 +0000
                                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 19:08 -0400
                                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-20 23:17 +0000
                                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 23:36 +0000
                                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 23:34 +0000
                                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 00:00 +0000
                                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-21 00:06 +0000
                                              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 02:16 +0000
                                                Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-21 02:42 +0000
                                                  Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 04:57 +0000
                                                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-21 05:23 +0000
                                                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-21 06:13 +0000
                                                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-21 13:18 +0000
                                                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-21 14:21 +0000
          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 18:24 -0400
        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-09-19 00:46 -0700
          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 04:09 -0400
            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-09-19 11:57 -0700
              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 16:23 -0400
                Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 17:43 -0400
                  Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-19 18:00 -0400
                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 18:59 -0400
                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-20 15:11 -0400
                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-20 15:24 -0400
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:44 -0400
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-20 18:40 -0400
                              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 19:18 -0400
                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 15:54 -0400
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-20 17:17 -0400
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 19:05 -0400
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-20 20:30 -0600
                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-20 16:03 -0400
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-20 17:22 -0400
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:51 -0400
                              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-29 03:20 +0200
                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 00:29 -0400
                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 23:17 -0700
                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-19 23:19 -0700
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 23:57 -0700
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 00:01 -0700
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 00:06 -0700
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-20 08:24 -0700
                              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-20 08:29 -0700
                                Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 12:04 -0400
                                  Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-20 16:00 -0400
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 07:42 -0400
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-20 15:57 -0400
                              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 18:48 -0400
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 23:27 -0700
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 23:33 -0700
              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 17:25 -0400
              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-20 10:52 -0400
                Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-20 08:30 -0700
          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 09:33 -0700
            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-09-19 11:57 -0700
              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 13:07 -0700
                Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-19 16:13 -0400
                Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 16:21 -0400
                  Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 13:33 -0700
                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 20:17 -0400
                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 17:28 -0700
                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 00:54 -0400
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> - 2015-09-19 22:32 -0700
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-09-20 06:01 +0000
                              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 11:47 -0700
                                Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics BTR1701 <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-20 15:51 -0500
                                  Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-20 16:55 -0700
                                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2015-09-20 23:56 +0000
                                  Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 23:35 -0700
                            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 03:31 -0400
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 23:09 -0700
                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 20:34 -0700
                        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-21 06:26 +0200
                          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-23 07:15 +0200
                Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2015-09-21 01:22 -0700
          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Rhino <no_offline_contact_please@example.com> - 2015-09-19 17:51 -0400
      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-18 12:59 -0700
        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-09-18 13:10 -0700
        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> - 2015-09-18 17:14 -0700
      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-18 22:41 +0200
        Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-18 23:03 -0700
          Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-21 05:54 +0200
            Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-21 01:06 -0400
              Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-21 07:42 +0200
                Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-21 02:02 -0400
                  Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-21 20:32 +0200
                    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-21 16:49 -0400
                      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-22 06:02 +0200
    Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Persecute Global Warming Skeptics Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> - 2015-09-22 19:48 -0400
      Re: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-23 05:47 +0200

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#522219

Fromanim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
Date2015-09-20 08:30 -0700
Message-ID<anim8rfsk-BB029E.08301420092015@news.easynews.com>
In reply to#522211
In article <mtmh75$6d8$1@panix3.panix.com>,
 wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:

> -- wds

Hey WDS!  (waves)

-- 
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEQUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuu......

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#522026

FromBTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
Date2015-09-19 09:33 -0700
Message-ID<atropos-3A8F3D.09331019092015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#521953
In article <1maz02q.bglsl6byw589N%csampson@inetworld.net>,
 csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:

> FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2015-09-18 18:53:35 +0000, benj <nobody@gmail.com> said:
> > 
> > > You said it Starmaker. Hey censorship of political speech as well as
> > > political prisoners is the traditional way of all Banana Republics, of
> > > which we have obviously become one. As I understand it, the favored
> > > method is dropping deniers out Helicopters
> > 
> > You DO realize that being ASKED to do something isn't the same as 
> > actually DOING it, right?
> 
> Has anybody actually looked at the two-page petition (one-page plus
> signatures) cited by the OP? It doesn't ask Obama to prosecute anybody.
> It is a petition in support of an action proposed by a Senator: to
> conduct a RICO investigation of groups denying climate change

RICO is a criminal statute. If you're under RICO investigation, you're 
being considered for prosecution. Saying they're not asking for anyone 
to be prosecuted, just investigated under RICO, is idiotic.

> If the investigation concludes that that's what they're doing,
> prosecution can follow.

No, it can't. Not without repealing the 1st Amendment.

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#522068

Fromcsampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson)
Date2015-09-19 11:57 -0700
Message-ID<1mazuy4.y6vseo1uh8s6aN%csampson@inetworld.net>
In reply to#522026
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

> In article <1maz02q.bglsl6byw589N%csampson@inetworld.net>,
>  csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:
> 
> > FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2015-09-18 18:53:35 +0000, benj <nobody@gmail.com> said:
> > > 
> > > > You said it Starmaker. Hey censorship of political speech as well as
> > > > political prisoners is the traditional way of all Banana Republics, of
> > > > which we have obviously become one. As I understand it, the favored
> > > > method is dropping deniers out Helicopters
> > > 
> > > You DO realize that being ASKED to do something isn't the same as
> > > actually DOING it, right?
> > 
> > Has anybody actually looked at the two-page petition (one-page plus
> > signatures) cited by the OP? It doesn't ask Obama to prosecute anybody.
> > It is a petition in support of an action proposed by a Senator: to
> > conduct a RICO investigation of groups denying climate change
> 
> RICO is a criminal statute. If you're under RICO investigation, you're
> being considered for prosecution. Saying they're not asking for anyone
> to be prosecuted, just investigated under RICO, is idiotic.

You can't make an even halfway reasonable comment without ruining it
with some invective, can you?

Of course, they're not going to launch an expesive investigation without
suspecting that those being investigated are guilty. I'm pretty sure
that if the investigation is unable to find adequate evidence of
wrongdoing, the whole effort will stop.

> > If the investigation concludes that that's what they're doing,
> > prosecution can follow.
> 
> No, it can't. Not without repealing the 1st Amendment.

As the petition says, what the Senator is proposing and what the
scientists are supporting is similar to the way RICO was used against
the tobacco companies when they put out tons of misinformation about the
harmfulness of cigarettes after the harm had been established medically.
Short form: RICO has been used this way before.

Charlie
-- 
Nobody in this country got rich on his own.  You built a factory--good.
But you moved your goods on roads we all paid for.  You hired workers we
all paid to educate. So keep a big hunk of the money from your factory.
But take a hunk and pay it forward.  Elizabeth Warren (paraphrased)

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#522078

FromBTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
Date2015-09-19 13:07 -0700
Message-ID<atropos-A80827.13074519092015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#522068
In article <1mazuy4.y6vseo1uh8s6aN%csampson@inetworld.net>,
 csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1maz02q.bglsl6byw589N%csampson@inetworld.net>,
> >  csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:

> > > If the investigation concludes that that's what they're doing,
> > > prosecution can follow.
> > 
> > No, it can't. Not without repealing the 1st Amendment.
> 
> As the petition says, what the Senator is proposing and what the
> scientists are supporting is similar to the way RICO was used against
> the tobacco companies when they put out tons of misinformation about the
> harmfulness of cigarettes after the harm had been established medically.
> Short form: RICO has been used this way before.

The RICO prosecutions of the tobacco companies were based overwhelmingly 
on their actions, not their speech, specifically the manipulation of the 
nicotine delivery of cigarettes, deceptive marketing of regulated 
products (cigarettes) as "light" or "low tar", and failing to produce 
safer cigarettes, as they had promised to.

Conversely, this new "throw the deniers in jail" movement by the 
Warmists is based *solely* on their speech and nothing else. The 
so-called "deniers" aren't marketing regulated products; they aren't 
failing to live up to a negotiated promise with the government to 
produce a product of a certain quality; and they haven't falsely 
manipulated any product in commerce.

So the comparison to the RICO case against the tobacco companies fails 
on multiple levels. This is a proposed prosecution based on nothing but 
pure speech and disagreement with "the consensus".

What's next? Throwing people in jail because they disagree with "the 
consensus" on Obamacare, because that deprives people of their civil 
right to health care? Or putting pro-2nd Amendment/gun rights supporters 
behind bars because the "progressive" intelligentsia has determined that 
it deprives people of their civil right to be free from violence? Or 
criminalizing any pro-life speech because it deprives people of their 
civil rights to an abortion?

Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or 
execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?

Statism: Ideas so wonderful, they have to be mandatory!

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#522080

Fromkefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com>
Date2015-09-19 16:13 -0400
Message-ID<gdgrvatjqvm27su9ssq7tco2jeorvvqdq8@4ax.com>
In reply to#522078
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:07:45 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <1mazuy4.y6vseo1uh8s6aN%csampson@inetworld.net>,
> csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > In article <1maz02q.bglsl6byw589N%csampson@inetworld.net>,
>> >  csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:
>
>> > > If the investigation concludes that that's what they're doing,
>> > > prosecution can follow.
>> > 
>> > No, it can't. Not without repealing the 1st Amendment.
>> 
>> As the petition says, what the Senator is proposing and what the
>> scientists are supporting is similar to the way RICO was used against
>> the tobacco companies when they put out tons of misinformation about the
>> harmfulness of cigarettes after the harm had been established medically.
>> Short form: RICO has been used this way before.
>
>The RICO prosecutions of the tobacco companies were based overwhelmingly 
>on their actions, not their speech, specifically the manipulation of the 
>nicotine delivery of cigarettes, deceptive marketing of regulated 
>products (cigarettes) as "light" or "low tar", and failing to produce 
>safer cigarettes, as they had promised to.
>
>Conversely, this new "throw the deniers in jail" movement by the 
>Warmists is based *solely* on their speech and nothing else. The 
>so-called "deniers" aren't marketing regulated products; they aren't 
>failing to live up to a negotiated promise with the government to 
>produce a product of a certain quality; and they haven't falsely 
>manipulated any product in commerce.
>
>So the comparison to the RICO case against the tobacco companies fails 
>on multiple levels. This is a proposed prosecution based on nothing but 
>pure speech and disagreement with "the consensus".
>
>What's next? Throwing people in jail because they disagree with "the 
>consensus" on Obamacare, because that deprives people of their civil 
>right to health care? Or putting pro-2nd Amendment/gun rights supporters 
>behind bars because the "progressive" intelligentsia has determined that 
>it deprives people of their civil right to be free from violence? Or 
>criminalizing any pro-life speech because it deprives people of their 
>civil rights to an abortion?
>
>Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or 
>execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?
>
>Statism: Ideas so wonderful, they have to be mandatory!

       Help!   Please don't investigate me for
thinking that greenhouse gases are the primary
cooling mechanism of the atmosphere.




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#522084

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-19 16:21 -0400
Message-ID<mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#522078
On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:

> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or
> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?

Same old lie.

Who has been jailed?  Who has been executed?
-- 
"Didn't believe we needed to "Make America Great Again" - until I saw 
the people we're seriously considering putting on the Presidential 
ballot." - Kelly Hines 2015

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#522092

FromBTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
Date2015-09-19 13:33 -0700
Message-ID<atropos-53131D.13335619092015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#522084
In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> 
> > Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or
> > execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?
> 
> Same old lie.

Except it's not.

> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed?

In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the 
desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants 
to..."

In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists 
on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous.

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#522126

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-19 20:17 -0400
Message-ID<mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#522092
On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:

> In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
>> 
>>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or
>>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?
>> 
>> Same old lie.
> 
> Except it's not.
> 
>> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed?
> 
> In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the
> desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants
> to..."
> 
> In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists
> on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous.

You left out that guy with the little mustache... why?
-- 
"Didn't believe we needed to "Make America Great Again" - until I saw 
the people we're seriously considering putting on the Presidential 
ballot." - Kelly Hines 2015

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#522128

FromBTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
Date2015-09-19 17:28 -0700
Message-ID<atropos-69AAFF.17283419092015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#522126
In article <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> 
> > In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> >> 
> >>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or
> >>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?
> >> 
> >> Same old lie.
> > 
> > Except it's not.
> > 
> >> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed?
> > 
> > In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the
> > desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants
> > to..."
> > 
> > In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists
> > on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous.
> 
> You left out that guy with the little mustache... why?

My apologies. I had no idea he means so much to you.

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#522152

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-20 00:54 -0400
Message-ID<mtle2i$75o$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#522128
On 2015-09-20 00:28:34 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:

> In article <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
>> 
>>> In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
>>>> 
>>>>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or
>>>>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?
>>>> 
>>>> Same old lie.
>>> 
>>> Except it's not.
>>> 
>>>> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed?
>>> 
>>> In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the
>>> desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants
>>> to..."
>>> 
>>> In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists
>>> on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous.
>> 
>> You left out that guy with the little mustache... why?
> 
> My apologies. I had no idea he means so much to you.

Well, he's the pinnacle of murderers, and, yet you left him off your 
list of leftist killers.

Did you just forget the worst of the worst?  Or didn't you want to 
admit that the biggest slaughterer wasn't a leftist, but a right wing 
psychopath?

It kind of knocks your premise into a cocked hat...where it belongs.
-- 
"Didn't believe we needed to "Make America Great Again" - until I saw 
the people we're seriously considering putting on the Presidential 
ballot." - Kelly Hines 2015

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#522155

FromBTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
Date2015-09-19 22:32 -0700
Message-ID<atropos-00E9F0.22324419092015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#522152
In article <mtle2i$75o$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> On 2015-09-20 00:28:34 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> 
> > In article <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> >> 
> >>> In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or
> >>>>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Same old lie.
> >>> 
> >>> Except it's not.
> >>> 
> >>>> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed?
> >>> 
> >>> In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the
> >>> desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants
> >>> to..."
> >>> 
> >>> In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists
> >>> on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous.
> >> 
> >> You left out that guy with the little mustache... why?
> > 
> > My apologies. I had no idea he means so much to you.
> 
> Well, he's the pinnacle of murderers

Not hardly. Stalin and Mao both beat him by a significant number.

> Did you just forget the worst of the worst?

No, 'cause he's not.

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#522158

FromMike M <mike@xenocyte.com>
Date2015-09-20 06:01 +0000
Message-ID<d670ecF5h9mU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#522155
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <mtle2i$75o$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-09-20 00:28:34 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
>> 
>>> In article <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
>>>> 
>>>>> In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or
>>>>>>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same old lie.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Except it's not.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the
>>>>> desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants
>>>>> to..."
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists
>>>>> on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous.
>>>> 
>>>> You left out that guy with the little mustache... why?
>>> 
>>> My apologies. I had no idea he means so much to you.
>> 
>> Well, he's the pinnacle of murderers
> 
> Not hardly. Stalin and Mao both beat him by a significant number.

With respect to the Soviets this, it seems, may have been exaggerated by
Cold War propaganda. Hard to tell at this distance but Hitler probably beat
out Stalin by a good couple of millions (see
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/mar/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/
for one viewpoint). Which by no means makes Uncle Joe a jolly good fellow,
but worse than Hitler? Not really.

Mao's regime, on the other hand, was indeed the most murderous in history.
Possibly five times more than Hitler - the Great Leap Forward alone may
have had a death toll approaching 50 millions.

>> Did you just forget the worst of the worst?
> 
> No, 'cause he's not.

He was, however, most likely worse than everyone other than Mao.

-- 
For the night is drak, and full of errors.

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#522250

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-09-20 11:47 -0700
Message-ID<55FEFF27.324A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#522158
Mike M wrote:
> 
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> > In article <mtle2i$75o$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-09-20 00:28:34 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> >>
> >>> In article <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or
> >>>>>>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Same old lie.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Except it's not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the
> >>>>> desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants
> >>>>> to..."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists
> >>>>> on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous.
> >>>>
> >>>> You left out that guy with the little mustache... why?
> >>>
> >>> My apologies. I had no idea he means so much to you.
> >>
> >> Well, he's the pinnacle of murderers
> >
> > Not hardly. Stalin and Mao both beat him by a significant number.
> 
> With respect to the Soviets this, it seems, may have been exaggerated by
> Cold War propaganda. Hard to tell at this distance but Hitler probably beat
> out Stalin by a good couple of millions (see
> http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/mar/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/
> for one viewpoint). Which by no means makes Uncle Joe a jolly good fellow,
> but worse than Hitler? Not really.
> 
> Mao's regime, on the other hand, was indeed the most murderous in history.
> Possibly five times more than Hitler - the Great Leap Forward alone may
> have had a death toll approaching 50 millions.
> 
> >> Did you just forget the worst of the worst?
> >
> > No, 'cause he's not.
> 
> He was, however, most likely worse than everyone other than Mao.


Aldof Hitler NEVER hit a jewish person, never yelled at a jewish person,
he never killed a jewish person.

Yous people have been brainwashed by TV and Hollywood movies...by the
people who run it.

Now, all you Global Warming Skeptics/Deniers if you know whats good for
you then pack up and
leave the country...

go to the south pole.

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#522279

FromBTR1701 <address_is@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-09-20 15:51 -0500
Message-ID<930417728464474459.869850address_is-invalid.invalid@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#522250
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> Now, all you Global Warming Skeptics/Deniers if you know whats good for
> you then pack up and
> leave the country...
> 
> go to the south pole.

Come at me, bro.

I like my odds.

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#522391

Fromanim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
Date2015-09-20 16:55 -0700
Message-ID<anim8rfsk-4C8BCC.16550620092015@news.easynews.com>
In reply to#522279
In article 
<930417728464474459.869850address_is-invalid.invalid@news.giganews.com>,
 BTR1701 <address_is@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Now, all you Global Warming Skeptics/Deniers if you know whats good for
> > you then pack up and
> > leave the country...
> > 
> > go to the south pole.
> 
> Come at me, bro.
> 
> I like my odds.

No, seriously, is he mentally ill or trolling?

-- 
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEQUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuu......

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#522392

From"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
Date2015-09-20 23:56 +0000
Message-ID<mtnh3q$c0v$5@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#522391
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>BTR1701 <address_is@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>>>Now, all you Global Warming Skeptics/Deniers if you know whats good for
>>>you then pack up and
>>>leave the country...

>>>go to the south pole.

>>Come at me, bro.

>>I like my odds.

>No, seriously, is he mentally ill or trolling?

Old-fashioned Usenet kook

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#522441

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-09-20 23:35 -0700
Message-ID<55FFA516.713E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#522279
BTR1701 wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > Now, all you Global Warming Skeptics/Deniers if you know whats good for
> > you then pack up and
> > leave the country...
> >
> > go to the south pole.
> 
> Come at me, bro.
> 
> I like my odds.



When 'the scientist' come looking for you, don't ask me to hide you in
the attic.

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#522167

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-20 03:31 -0400
Message-ID<mtln9r$9sj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#522155
On 2015-09-20 05:32:44 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:

> In article <mtle2i$75o$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-09-20 00:28:34 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
>> 
>>> In article <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
>>>> 
>>>>> In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or
>>>>>>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same old lie.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Except it's not.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the
>>>>> desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants
>>>>> to..."
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists
>>>>> on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous.
>>>> 
>>>> You left out that guy with the little mustache... why?
>>> 
>>> My apologies. I had no idea he means so much to you.
>> 
>> Well, he's the pinnacle of murderers
> 
> Not hardly. Stalin and Mao both beat him by a significant number.
> 
>> Did you just forget the worst of the worst?
> 
> No, 'cause he's not.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/mar/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/

Today, 

> after two decades of access to Eastern European archives, and thanks to 
> the work of German, Russian, Israeli, and other scholars, we can 
> resolve the question of numbers. The total number of noncombatants 
> killed by the Germans—about 11 million—is roughly what we had thought. 
> The total number of civilians killed by the Soviets, however, is 
> considerably less than we had believed. We know now that the Germans 
> killed more people than the Soviets did. That said, the issue of 
> quality is more complex than was once thought.
-- 
"Didn't believe we needed to "Make America Great Again" - until I saw 
the people we're seriously considering putting on the Presidential 
ballot." - Kelly Hines 2015

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#522159

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-09-19 23:09 -0700
Message-ID<55FE4D98.2148@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#522152
FPP wrote:
> 
> On 2015-09-20 00:28:34 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> 
> > In article <mtktre$s2r$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> >>
> >>> In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or
> >>>>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?
> >>>>
> >>>> Same old lie.
> >>>
> >>> Except it's not.
> >>>
> >>>> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed?
> >>>
> >>> In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the
> >>> desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants
> >>> to..."
> >>>
> >>> In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists
> >>> on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous.
> >>
> >> You left out that guy with the little mustache... why?
> >
> > My apologies. I had no idea he means so much to you.
> 
> Well, he's the pinnacle of murderers, and, yet you left him off your
> list of leftist killers.
> 
> Did you just forget the worst of the worst?  Or didn't you want to
> admit that the biggest slaughterer wasn't a leftist, but a right wing
> psychopath?
> 
> It kind of knocks your premise into a cocked hat...where it belongs.


I don't know who you people are talking about...
who is this "leftist killer" or "the pinnacle of murderers" that his name was left out????

Who are you people talking about????


If yous are talking about "that guy with the little mustache"....then yous must be greatly mistaken.


"that guy with the little mustache" never hurt anyone. 

Are there any photos of "that guy with the little mustache" killing anyone, or hitting anyone, or slapping anyone, or yelling at anyone?


Yous have been watching to much Hollywood TV.

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#522147

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-09-19 20:34 -0700
Message-ID<55FE2934.1CEF@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#522126
FPP wrote:
> 
> On 2015-09-19 20:33:56 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> 
> > In article <mtkg13$a4v$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-09-19 20:07:45 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> said:
> >>
> >>> Why is it the Left, when given the power, always wants to jail or
> >>> execute anyone who dissents or disagrees with them?
> >>
> >> Same old lie.
> >
> > Except it's not.
> >
> >> Who has been jailed? Who has been executed?
> >
> > In this case, no one yet. The Warmists have certainly expressed the
> > desire for jailings, however. Which is what I said: "...always wants
> > to..."
> >
> > In the broader sense, millions have been jailed and executed by leftists
> > on the loose. Mao, Stalin, Guevara, Castro... the list is voluminous.
> 
> You left out that guy with the little mustache... why?



he wasn't a leftests he was right handed.

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