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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

Started byChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
First post2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
Last post2015-08-12 12:35 +0800
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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 10:14 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 13:01 -0400
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-11 23:26 +0800
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 00:24 +0800
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-11 13:36 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:58 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:23 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:48 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:13 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 20:57 +0800
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:39 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:48 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 15:26 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 07:26 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 12:51 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:03 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-12 17:49 -0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 18:08 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-13 00:27 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:25 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:55 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:00 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:53 +0800
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:58 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 15:56 +0800
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:37 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:25 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-13 06:13 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 14:20 +0100
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:39 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:59 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:15 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:44 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:30 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:26 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:30 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-14 10:19 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:11 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:31 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:25 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:02 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:46 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:45 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:48 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:15 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:15 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 00:38 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:22 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:30 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 10:27 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:50 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:28 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:32 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:49 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:48 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:00 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:24 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 06:45 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:33 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:35 +0800
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:22 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 12:47 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 01:08 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:36 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:55 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:29 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:04 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:53 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:30 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 10:08 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 11:40 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:23 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:56 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:11 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:00 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 14:12 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:53 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:57 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:26 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:53 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:58 +0100
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:52 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:56 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:49 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:50 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:33 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:26 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:26 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:35 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:41 +0800
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:58 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:44 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:01 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 08:10 +0800
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:42 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:26 +0800
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:59 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:17 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:48 +0800
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:30 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:38 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:21 +0100
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:19 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:40 +0100
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:36 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 21:52 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:57 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:23 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:30 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:32 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:37 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 23:38 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:55 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:12 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:45 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:28 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:43 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 15:53 +0100
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:24 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:08 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:17 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-14 04:50 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:53 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-14 06:54 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:16 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:51 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-15 06:41 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:11 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 03:36 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 07:43 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 18:36 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 00:56 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:08 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:09 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 14:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:04 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 12:12 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:37 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:21 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-18 14:23 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:58 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 18:47 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:30 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 10:15 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:50 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 00:44 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:43 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 09:45 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:06 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 00:25 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:52 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 13:19 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:29 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 00:18 -0700
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:39 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 12:23 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:57 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:06 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:28 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:08 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:04 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:07 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:16 +0800
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:27 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:51 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:34 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:55 +0800
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:48 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:59 +0800
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:13 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:30 +0800
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:58 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 19:58 +0800
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:31 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 07:47 +0800
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:40 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:19 +0800
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:58 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:20 +0800
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:23 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:37 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:58 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-15 15:17 +0100
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:31 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 12:14 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:36 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:11 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:48 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:58 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 12:58 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 12:56 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 12:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 14:34 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 19:59 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:33 +0800
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:47 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:34 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:36 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-13 13:10 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 13:25 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:49 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:33 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:24 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 10:55 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:01 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 16:55 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:11 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:39 +0100
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-18 11:55 +0100
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:38 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:00 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:41 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:08 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:04 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 15:38 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:57 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:29 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:44 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-11 20:23 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:14 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:55 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:00 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:51 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:49 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:46 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:18 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-14 03:19 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:25 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:34 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:30 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:59 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 15:03 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:30 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:19 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:36 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:53 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:20 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-12 10:01 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:16 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 20:22 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:49 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 14:38 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:53 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:51 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800

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#514986

FromOlrik <olrik666@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-18 01:37 -0400
Message-ID<mqug7k$7gg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#514984
Le 2015-08-18 01:30, The Starmaker a écrit :
> Olrik wrote:
>>
>> Le 2015-08-18 01:13, Rudy Canoza a écrit :
>>> On 8/17/2015 10:10 PM, Olrik wrote:
>>>> Le 2015-08-18 01:07, Rudy Canoza a écrit :
>>>>> On 8/17/2015 9:57 PM, Olrik wrote:
>>>>>> Le 2015-08-18 00:52, The Starmaker a écrit :
>>>>>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>>>>>>>> world of death.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>>>>>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the
>>>>>>>>> world of
>>>>>>>>> living will cease to exist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <looks around>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No god, and everything is still here...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what do you think a fish sees when he <looks around> from inside the
>>>>>>> aquarium tank?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can now be looking at God but simply don't understand what you're
>>>>>>> seeing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, it looks as if God is not there...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you have fish eyes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You should be in an institution.
>>>>>
>>>>> You should be dead and have worms eating your body.
>>>>
>>>> Why the conditional?
>>>
>>> What conditional, fuckwit?  There was no conditional.
>>>
>>> Maybe you're not a native English speaker after all.
>>
>> «after all»? I never pretended to be one, you little troll.
>>
>>> However...you need to stop with the "a écrit" bullshit, espèce de con.
>>> Tu n'ecris pas dans un forum francophone.  Arrête avec ta connerie.
>>
>> Why did you write your comment in French? Hypocrite much?
>
>
> You see what happens when you mix diffrent breeds of fishes in the same
> tank...

Indeed! You've been eaten and spit out!

Good riddance, troll!


-- 
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division

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#514996

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-08-17 23:38 -0700
Message-ID<55D2D2DC.3BC7@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#514986
Olrik wrote:
> 
> Le 2015-08-18 01:30, The Starmaker a écrit :
> > Olrik wrote:
> >>
> >> Le 2015-08-18 01:13, Rudy Canoza a écrit :
> >>> On 8/17/2015 10:10 PM, Olrik wrote:
> >>>> Le 2015-08-18 01:07, Rudy Canoza a écrit :
> >>>>> On 8/17/2015 9:57 PM, Olrik wrote:
> >>>>>> Le 2015-08-18 00:52, The Starmaker a écrit :
> >>>>>>> Alex W. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
> >>>>>>>>>>> world of death.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
> >>>>>>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the
> >>>>>>>>> world of
> >>>>>>>>> living will cease to exist.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <looks around>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No god, and everything is still here...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> what do you think a fish sees when he <looks around> from inside the
> >>>>>>> aquarium tank?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You can now be looking at God but simply don't understand what you're
> >>>>>>> seeing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So, it looks as if God is not there...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> you have fish eyes.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You should be in an institution.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You should be dead and have worms eating your body.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why the conditional?
> >>>
> >>> What conditional, fuckwit?  There was no conditional.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe you're not a native English speaker after all.
> >>
> >> «after all»? I never pretended to be one, you little troll.
> >>
> >>> However...you need to stop with the "a écrit" bullshit, espèce de con.
> >>> Tu n'ecris pas dans un forum francophone.  Arrête avec ta connerie.
> >>
> >> Why did you write your comment in French? Hypocrite much?
> >
> >
> > You see what happens when you mix diffrent breeds of fishes in the same
> > tank...
> 
> Indeed! You've been eaten and spit out!
> 
> Good riddance, troll!
> 
> --
> Olrik
> aa #1981
> EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division




that is no way for a food inspector to talk.

tell me, what is the longest period of time meat is kept refridgerated
before it reaches comsumers? 5 years, ten years, twenty years?

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#514595

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-17 05:55 -0400
Message-ID<7qb3talvd61dbjg5c0ltuf9fjq7ule62f1@4ax.com>
In reply to#514200
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:53:17 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>
>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>
>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>> world of death.
>>
>> And what definition is _that_?
>
>It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all 
>living things.

But where is this definition found?

> Without God, all living things will die, and the world of 
>living will cease to exist.

What evidence do you have that any god ever existed?  Please use
verified sources only, and no vague ambiguities.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#514616

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-17 20:12 +0800
Message-ID<mqsjdk$7c0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#514595
On 2015-08-17 05:55 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:53:17 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>
>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>> world of death.
>>>
>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>
>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>> living things.
>
> But where is this definition found?

The Bible in Genesis.

>
>> Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>> living will cease to exist.
>
> What evidence do you have that any god ever existed?  Please use
> verified sources only, and no vague ambiguities.

The issue of God's existence is a personal one. I can't give you my 
experience of God. You have to have your own experience to truly 
understand the meaning of God. I can only show you where you can find 
your own God. He is within you as the center of your life. You live your 
life for him, and he rewards you with happiness and love in life.

Once again, this isn't your elementary science education, so stop asking 
for the "evidence" of God like a total idiot. Can you give me ten pounds 
of love and three ounces of wisdom? If not, there is no such thing as 
the evidence of God either. The entire universe is God's manifestation. 
You can not claim one part of the universe is God's evidence but the 
other part is not.

>
> --
> Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
>
> Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially
> those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.
>
> Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
> guaranteed above average income for every person.
>
> Every illegal alien is a criminal.
> No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
> Deportation upon identification as the only option.
>
> If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
> before you run into me.
>

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#514924

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
Message-ID<c2r4tad5tj9fqd9q067id44fhlbnk5qj8g@4ax.com>
In reply to#514616
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:12:46 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdk$7c0$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 2015-08-17 05:55 PM, Attila < wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:53:17 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>
>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>> world of death.
>>>>
>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>
>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>> living things.
>>
>> But where is this definition found?
>
>The Bible in Genesis.

That source, being unverified, is rejected as being useless as well as
valueless.

>
>>
>>> Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>> living will cease to exist.
>>
>> What evidence do you have that any god ever existed?  Please use
>> verified sources only, and no vague ambiguities.
>
>The issue of God's existence is a personal one.

Then that 'god' can have no effect on the real world because if it
could everyone would be aware of it.

> I can't give you my 
>experience of God.

I didn't ask for it, and I really am not interested in it.

> You have to have your own experience to truly 
>understand the meaning of God. I can only show you where you can find 
>your own God. He is within you as the center of your life. You live your 
>life for him, and he rewards you with happiness and love in life.

No thanks.  Not interested in mythology.

>
>Once again, this isn't your elementary science education, so stop asking 
>for the "evidence" of God like a total idiot. Can you give me ten pounds 
>of love and three ounces of wisdom?

Nope.  Nether of those actually exist.

> If not, there is no such thing as 
>the evidence of God either. The entire universe is God's manifestation. 
>You can not claim one part of the universe is God's evidence but the 
>other part is not.
>

So a god can affect the universe as much as an emotion or any other
emotion can.  But no more.

Interesting.  But not very.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#514994

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-18 13:45 +0800
Message-ID<mqujaa$gfe$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#514924
On 2015-08-18 07:25 AM, Attila < wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:12:46 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdk$7c0$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-17 05:55 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:53:17 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>>> world of death.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>>
>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>>> living things.
>>>
>>> But where is this definition found?
>>
>> The Bible in Genesis.
>
> That source, being unverified, is rejected as being useless as well as
> valueless.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>>> living will cease to exist.
>>>
>>> What evidence do you have that any god ever existed?  Please use
>>> verified sources only, and no vague ambiguities.
>>
>> The issue of God's existence is a personal one.
>
> Then that 'god' can have no effect on the real world because if it
> could everyone would be aware of it.
>
>> I can't give you my
>> experience of God.
>
> I didn't ask for it, and I really am not interested in it.
>
>> You have to have your own experience to truly
>> understand the meaning of God. I can only show you where you can find
>> your own God. He is within you as the center of your life. You live your
>> life for him, and he rewards you with happiness and love in life.
>
> No thanks.  Not interested in mythology.
>
>>
>> Once again, this isn't your elementary science education, so stop asking
>> for the "evidence" of God like a total idiot. Can you give me ten pounds
>> of love and three ounces of wisdom?
>
> Nope.  Nether of those actually exist.

Yet, do you deny that love and wisdom actually exist also?

>
>> If not, there is no such thing as
>> the evidence of God either. The entire universe is God's manifestation.
>> You can not claim one part of the universe is God's evidence but the
>> other part is not.
>>
>
> So a god can affect the universe as much as an emotion or any other
> emotion can.  But no more.
>
> Interesting.  But not very.

You forget to mention the word wisdom.

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#515000

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-18 03:28 -0400
Message-ID<dhn5tah7njqahbu609sqtpo5qt4so9br6u@4ax.com>
In reply to#514994
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:45:42 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 2015-08-18 07:25 AM, Attila < wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:12:46 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdk$7c0$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-17 05:55 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:53:17 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>>>> world of death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>>>> living things.
>>>>
>>>> But where is this definition found?
>>>
>>> The Bible in Genesis.
>>
>> That source, being unverified, is rejected as being useless as well as
>> valueless.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>>>> living will cease to exist.
>>>>
>>>> What evidence do you have that any god ever existed?  Please use
>>>> verified sources only, and no vague ambiguities.
>>>
>>> The issue of God's existence is a personal one.
>>
>> Then that 'god' can have no effect on the real world because if it
>> could everyone would be aware of it.
>>
>>> I can't give you my
>>> experience of God.
>>
>> I didn't ask for it, and I really am not interested in it.
>>
>>> You have to have your own experience to truly
>>> understand the meaning of God. I can only show you where you can find
>>> your own God. He is within you as the center of your life. You live your
>>> life for him, and he rewards you with happiness and love in life.
>>
>> No thanks.  Not interested in mythology.
>>
>>>
>>> Once again, this isn't your elementary science education, so stop asking
>>> for the "evidence" of God like a total idiot. Can you give me ten pounds
>>> of love and three ounces of wisdom?
>>
>> Nope.  Nether of those actually exist.
>
>Yet, do you deny that love and wisdom actually exist also?

Outside of the individual mind involved, yes.

>
>>
>>> If not, there is no such thing as
>>> the evidence of God either. The entire universe is God's manifestation.
>>> You can not claim one part of the universe is God's evidence but the
>>> other part is not.
>>>
>>
>> So a god can affect the universe as much as an emotion or any other
>> emotion can.  But no more.
>>
>> Interesting.  But not very.
>
>You forget to mention the word wisdom.
>

Nope.  There are a lot of mental conditions I did not mention.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#515144

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-19 07:43 +0800
Message-ID<mr0hqp$2h7$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#515000
On 2015-08-18 03:28 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:45:42 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-18 07:25 AM, Attila < wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:12:46 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdk$7c0$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-17 05:55 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:53:17 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>>>>> world of death.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>>>>> living things.
>>>>>
>>>>> But where is this definition found?
>>>>
>>>> The Bible in Genesis.
>>>
>>> That source, being unverified, is rejected as being useless as well as
>>> valueless.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>>>>> living will cease to exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> What evidence do you have that any god ever existed?  Please use
>>>>> verified sources only, and no vague ambiguities.
>>>>
>>>> The issue of God's existence is a personal one.
>>>
>>> Then that 'god' can have no effect on the real world because if it
>>> could everyone would be aware of it.
>>>
>>>> I can't give you my
>>>> experience of God.
>>>
>>> I didn't ask for it, and I really am not interested in it.
>>>
>>>> You have to have your own experience to truly
>>>> understand the meaning of God. I can only show you where you can find
>>>> your own God. He is within you as the center of your life. You live your
>>>> life for him, and he rewards you with happiness and love in life.
>>>
>>> No thanks.  Not interested in mythology.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Once again, this isn't your elementary science education, so stop asking
>>>> for the "evidence" of God like a total idiot. Can you give me ten pounds
>>>> of love and three ounces of wisdom?
>>>
>>> Nope.  Nether of those actually exist.
>>
>> Yet, do you deny that love and wisdom actually exist also?
>
> Outside of the individual mind involved, yes.

First of all, how do you define outside of the individual mind? where 
would that be? Can you point me to the outside of the individual mind 
with your individual mind?

Secondly, can you deny the importance of love and wisdom simply because 
it's "within" your individual mind?

>
>>
>>>
>>>> If not, there is no such thing as
>>>> the evidence of God either. The entire universe is God's manifestation.
>>>> You can not claim one part of the universe is God's evidence but the
>>>> other part is not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So a god can affect the universe as much as an emotion or any other
>>> emotion can.  But no more.
>>>
>>> Interesting.  But not very.
>>
>> You forget to mention the word wisdom.
>>
>
> Nope.  There are a lot of mental conditions I did not mention.

OK. Can you show me anything that is not a mental condition?

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#513271

From"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2015-08-13 15:53 +0100
Message-ID<d33pafFbe9vU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#513234
On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote:

> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the
> god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>
> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life?

WHy should death be evil?
It is a natural part of the cycle of life.  Decay and death feeds new 
growth.  Death is *good*.

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#513480

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-14 17:24 +0800
Message-ID<mqke7a$vf2$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#513271
On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote:
> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote:
>
>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the
>> god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>
>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life?
>
> WHy should death be evil?

Because killing life is evil.

> It is a natural part of the cycle of life.  Decay and death feeds new
> growth.  Death is *good*.
>

Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception. 
It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence.

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#513491

From"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2015-08-14 12:08 +0100
Message-ID<d360idFsfjsU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#513480
On 14/08/2015 10:24, niunian wrote:
> On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote:
>>
>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the
>>> god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>
>>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life?
>>
>> WHy should death be evil?
>
> Because killing life is evil.

Unless god tells us to do it.
Read Joshua.

Or unless by killing we preserve our own life.

Or unless by killing we preserve the lives of others.

And that's not even discussing natural death.

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#513652

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-08-14 14:17 -0500
Message-ID<3lfssapnpq98a6qdnm0e385knolvltrb8r@4ax.com>
In reply to#513491
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 12:08:59 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 14/08/2015 10:24, niunian wrote:
>> On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote:
>>>
>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the
>>>> god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>
>>>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life?
>>>
>>> WHy should death be evil?
>>
>> Because killing life is evil.
>
>Unless god tells us to do it.
>Read Joshua.
>
>Or unless by killing we preserve our own life.


LOL what happend to turn the other cheek, thats somewhere in the bible
>
>Or unless by killing we preserve the lives of others.

I guess that one doesnt apply to your god thougfh
>
>And that's not even discussing natural death.
>

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#513501

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-08-14 04:50 -0700
Message-ID<mqkklu0kd5@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#513480
niunian wrote:
>
> Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception.
> It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence.

It's a wonder why theists do not rush to avail themselves of this 
vaunted freedom.

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#513503

From"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2015-08-14 12:53 +0100
Message-ID<d36354Ft71kU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#513501
On 14/08/2015 12:50, talishi wrote:
> niunian wrote:
>>
>> Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception.
>> It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical
>> existence.
>
> It's a wonder why theists do not rush to avail themselves of this
> vaunted freedom.

Given how some Muslims choose to enter this blessed state, we should be 
thankful for such small mercy...

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#513529

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-08-14 06:54 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-DC7E67.06545914082015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#513501
In article <mqkklu0kd5@news3.newsguy.com>,
 talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

> niunian wrote:
> >
> > Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception.
> > It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence.
> 
> It's a wonder why theists do not rush to avail themselves of this 
> vaunted freedom.


Hence, the declaration that suicide will land you in hell.

-- 

JD

Išve officially given up trying to find the bottom 
of the barrel that is Republican depravity.--Jidyom 
Rosario, Addicting Info

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#513650

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-08-14 14:16 -0500
Message-ID<bcfssa5gn0qn5mf6l0hs4ngj4c0ceitcl8@4ax.com>
In reply to#513480
On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:24:50 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote:

>On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote:
>>
>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the
>>> god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>
>>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life?
>>
>> WHy should death be evil?
>
>Because killing life is evil.

yeah LOL you should have told that to your god, it has murdered more
people than small pox, oh wait it made small pox also, so it gets
credit for all of those, ok then it has killed more people than
hitler, oh wait according to you it made hitler so it gets credit for
all of those also, I guess you are just fucked

>
>> It is a natural part of the cycle of life.  Decay and death feeds new
>> growth.  Death is *good*.
>>
>
>Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception. 
>It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence.

hell when your god kills it will torture the fuck out of people,
drowning, burning, disease... boy that sounds like a real stand up guy
that god of yours

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#513781

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-15 07:51 +0800
Message-ID<mqmckh$1cg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#513650
On 2015-08-15 03:16 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:24:50 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote:
>>>
>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the
>>>> god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>
>>>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life?
>>>
>>> WHy should death be evil?
>>
>> Because killing life is evil.
>
> yeah LOL you should have told that to your god, it has murdered more
> people than small pox, oh wait it made small pox also, so it gets
> credit for all of those, ok then it has killed more people than
> hitler, oh wait according to you it made hitler so it gets credit for
> all of those also, I guess you are just fucked
>
>>
>>> It is a natural part of the cycle of life.  Decay and death feeds new
>>> growth.  Death is *good*.
>>>
>>
>> Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception.
>> It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence.
>
> hell when your god kills it will torture the fuck out of people,
> drowning, burning, disease... boy that sounds like a real stand up guy
> that god of yours
>

Nope. None of anything you have said including what you mentioned from 
the Bible has anything to do with the God of living. The God of living 
only gives life. Only the force of evil and sometimes it is the force of 
nature would take life. God as the source and energy of all living 
things does not kill life. For God to kill life, it would mean God has 
killed himself. It's stupid to even imagine such thing.

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#513802

FromMike M <mike@xenocyte.com>
Date2015-08-15 06:41 +0000
Message-ID<1459346691461313425.308533mike-xenocyte.com@news.individual.net>
In reply to#513781
niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote:
> On 2015-08-15 03:16 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:24:50 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the
>>>>> god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life?
>>>> 
>>>> WHy should death be evil?
>>> 
>>> Because killing life is evil.
>> 
>> yeah LOL you should have told that to your god, it has murdered more
>> people than small pox, oh wait it made small pox also, so it gets
>> credit for all of those, ok then it has killed more people than
>> hitler, oh wait according to you it made hitler so it gets credit for
>> all of those also, I guess you are just fucked
>> 
>>> 
>>>> It is a natural part of the cycle of life.  Decay and death feeds new
>>>> growth.  Death is *good*.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception.
>>> It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence.
>> 
>> hell when your god kills it will torture the fuck out of people,
>> drowning, burning, disease... boy that sounds like a real stand up guy
>> that god of yours
>> 
> 
> Nope. None of anything you have said including what you mentioned from
> the Bible has anything to do with the God of living. The God of living
> only gives life. Only the force of evil and sometimes it is the force of
> nature would take life. God as the source and energy of all living things
> does not kill life. For God to kill life, it would mean God has killed
> himself. It's stupid to even imagine such thing.

I'm trying to figure out whether your religion has anything to do with any
established ones, and failing. Certainly not Judaism, Christianity or Islam
- to name just three of the ones that embrace the notion that God erased
most of the life on Earth in a flood so he could start afresh ...

-- 
So much universe, and so little time. - Sir Terry Pratchett

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#513820

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-15 16:11 +0800
Message-ID<mqn36b$5ht$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#513802
On 2015-08-15 02:41 PM, Mike M wrote:
> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-08-15 03:16 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:24:50 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>>> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the
>>>>>> god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life?
>>>>>
>>>>> WHy should death be evil?
>>>>
>>>> Because killing life is evil.
>>>
>>> yeah LOL you should have told that to your god, it has murdered more
>>> people than small pox, oh wait it made small pox also, so it gets
>>> credit for all of those, ok then it has killed more people than
>>> hitler, oh wait according to you it made hitler so it gets credit for
>>> all of those also, I guess you are just fucked
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It is a natural part of the cycle of life.  Decay and death feeds new
>>>>> growth.  Death is *good*.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception.
>>>> It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence.
>>>
>>> hell when your god kills it will torture the fuck out of people,
>>> drowning, burning, disease... boy that sounds like a real stand up guy
>>> that god of yours
>>>
>>
>> Nope. None of anything you have said including what you mentioned from
>> the Bible has anything to do with the God of living. The God of living
>> only gives life. Only the force of evil and sometimes it is the force of
>> nature would take life. God as the source and energy of all living things
>> does not kill life. For God to kill life, it would mean God has killed
>> himself. It's stupid to even imagine such thing.
>
> I'm trying to figure out whether your religion has anything to do with any
> established ones, and failing. Certainly not Judaism, Christianity or Islam
> - to name just three of the ones that embrace the notion that God erased
> most of the life on Earth in a flood so he could start afresh ...
>

The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God of 
creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of Adam and 
Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of living, the 
giver of life who is always good. The second God is the God of sin who 
is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same God. The sin has 
introduced or manufactured another God in the place of the previous 
creation God.

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#513825

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-08-15 03:36 -0700
Message-ID<mqn4pp1c16@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#513820
niunian wrote:
>
> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God of
> creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of Adam and
> Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of living, the
> giver of life who is always good. The second God is the God of sin who
> is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same God. The sin has
> introduced or manufactured another God in the place of the previous
> creation God.

It turns out the previous creation God was manufactured as well.  Humans 
have manufactured at least 5,000 of them.

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