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THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT

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  THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 02:01 -0700
    THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 06:16 -0700
      Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 08:28 -0500
        Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-05 13:51 +0000
          Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 11:11 -0700
            Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 11:17 -0700
        Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 11:05 -0700
      Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 11:03 -0700
      Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 15:37 -0700
    Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT xxein1@att.net - 2016-07-05 16:06 -0700
      Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 16:09 -0700
      Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 18:39 -0700
        waves, zero noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 11:19 -0700
          Re: waves, zero "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 22:46 -0700
            no waves in no thing noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 11:00 -0700
              Re: no waves in no thing noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 16:23 -0700
              Re: no waves in no thing xxein1@att.net - 2016-07-10 13:27 -0700
                i.e pi modulus noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 11:51 -0700
        Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT "Roberto" <invalid@example.com> - 2016-07-06 18:18 -0700
          Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 22:49 -0700
          Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 02:55 -0700
      Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 04:49 -0700

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#588009 — THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-05 02:01 -0700
SubjectTHE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT
Message-ID<c7326aa1-8564-4dfd-8928-3cbbd30e7250@googlegroups.com>
THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT
1
====================================================
''NO MASS '''- THE ONLY ONE  MASS !!-NO REAL PHYSICS !!=====================================================
2
=========================================================
MASS - IS THE MOTHER OF **ALL**FORCES -***INCLUDING GRAVITY*** !!
==========================================================

old copyright 
TIA
Eng
Yehiel Porat
=========================================================

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#588020

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-05 06:16 -0700
Message-ID<5dd82eb4-a2a5-4106-91b8-001a99431d10@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588009
When matter vibrates, it makes waves in
the medium. When matter vibrates, it
interacts with waves in the medium.
Control how the matter vibrates, and you
can skew your interaction with the
medium.
Mass can be modulated and polarized.

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#588022 — Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-05 08:28 -0500
SubjectRe: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT
Message-ID<nlgcl0$a50$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#588020
On 7/5/2016 8:16 AM, john wrote:
> When matter vibrates, it makes waves in
> the medium. When matter vibrates, it
> interacts with waves in the medium.
> Control how the matter vibrates, and you
> can skew your interaction with the
> medium.
> Mass can be modulated and polarized.
>

Croutons. You missed croutons.
Way too much kale, by the way.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#588027 — Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-07-05 13:51 +0000
SubjectRe: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT
Message-ID<nlge0t$v8r$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#588022
Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:

>Croutons. You missed croutons.
>Way too much kale, by the way.

:-)

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#588048 — Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-05 11:11 -0700
SubjectRe: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT
Message-ID<6148f5ed-a0de-43fc-b1f5-b6a3a5651f96@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588027
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 4:52:15 PM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >Croutons. You missed croutons.
> >Way too much kale, by the way.
> 
> :-)
===========================
envy is killing you ??
you can go one leaking the ass of Bod Bod 
=======
next !!
to cleaver decent **responsible* human beings 
-------------------------------
Y.P
==============================

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#588051 — Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-05 11:17 -0700
SubjectRe: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT
Message-ID<38bb3f36-5eb1-4de5-a166-ffda12afbe57@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588048
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 9:11:35 PM UTC+3, Y.Porat wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 4:52:15 PM UTC+3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> > >Croutons. You missed croutons.
> > >Way too much kale, by the way.
> > 
> > :-)
> ===========================
> envy is killing you ??
> you can go one leaking the ass of Bod Bod 
> =======
> next !!
> to cleaver decent **responsible* human beings 
> -------------------------------
> Y.P
> ==============================

BTW
the real name of*** ANONYMOUS**!!  Bod Bod
is 

Paul Draper( P D)
BTW
why should he be anonymous ??!!!
only Bod Bod  know

(actually not difficult to know why !!
Y.P
===========================

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#588047 — Re: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-05 11:05 -0700
SubjectRe: THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT
Message-ID<27220c55-21d0-4ffb-b0e2-c9f700a34ed8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588022
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 4:28:04 PM UTC+3, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 7/5/2016 8:16 AM, john wrote:
> > When matter vibrates, it makes waves in
> > the medium. When matter vibrates, it
> > interacts with waves in the medium.
> > Control how the matter vibrates, and you
> > can skew your interaction with the
> > medium.
> > Mass can be modulated and polarized.
> >
> 
> Croutons. You missed croutons.
> Way too much kale, by the way.
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
=====================
I was talking about mass
and yo are as usual mumbling..
Y.P
-============================== 

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#588046

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-05 11:03 -0700
Message-ID<e7223b63-0abb-4811-b57a-139504bd18e7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588020
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 4:16:23 PM UTC+3, john wrote:
> When matter vibrates, it makes waves in
> the medium. When matter vibrates, it
> interacts with waves in the medium.
> Control how the matter vibrates, and you
> can skew your interaction with the
> medium.
> Mass can be modulated and polarized.
======================
so you agree that
w8ithout mass
no gravitation can be done 
TiA
Y.P
===================================

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#588072

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-05 15:37 -0700
Message-ID<944f5edc-db26-4478-a7c1-48b4f87cbaef@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588020
pass the crouton -- don't take the whole crouton,
pretty-please

> medium.
> Mass can be modulated and polarized.

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#588075

Fromxxein1@att.net
Date2016-07-05 16:06 -0700
Message-ID<6552ab6a-e6f4-48d9-b907-6b3174bf8f8d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588009
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 5:01:13 AM UTC-4, Y.Porat wrote:
> THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT
> 1
> ====================================================
> ''NO MASS '''- THE ONLY ONE  MASS !!-NO REAL PHYSICS !!=====================================================
> 2
> =========================================================
> MASS - IS THE MOTHER OF **ALL**FORCES -***INCLUDING GRAVITY*** !!
> ==========================================================
> 
> old copyright 
> TIA
> Eng
> Yehiel Porat
> =========================================================

xxein:  "THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS"???
Did Mother Nature throw out the old rules?  Did she tell you when she's going to change them again?  How about how mass makes for gravity?  Is that like getting free Coke with a two dollar purchase of rocks?  You will tell us, won't you? 

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#588076

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-05 16:09 -0700
Message-ID<00e948e6-b2f0-4b2b-a66c-1578034cba43@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588075
at least, a.p pretends to deal with an issue, and
so does that other two-letter guy

> getting free Coke with a two dollar purchase of rocks?  You will tell us, won't you?

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#588093

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-05 18:39 -0700
Message-ID<c8180119-1882-45f4-b3b7-3f61ac8513fe@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588075
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 2:06:22 AM UTC+3, xxe...@att.net wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 5:01:13 AM UTC-4, Y.Porat wrote:
> > THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS -BY Y.PORAT
> > 1
> > ====================================================
> > ''NO MASS '''- THE ONLY ONE  MASS !!-NO REAL PHYSICS !!=====================================================
> > 2
> > =========================================================
> > MASS - IS THE MOTHER OF **ALL**FORCES -***INCLUDING GRAVITY*** !!
> > ==========================================================
> > 
> > old copyright 
> > TIA
> > Eng
> > Yehiel Porat
> > =========================================================
> 
> xxein:  "THE 2 NEW UNPRECEDENTED  -MAIN MOST BASIC RULES OF PHYSICS"???
> Did Mother Nature throw out the old rules?  Did she tell you when she's going to change them again?  How about how mass makes for gravity?  Is that like getting free Coke with a two dollar purchase of rocks?  You will tell us, won't you?
================================
1
does the Proton include 'relativistic mass ??

what are the basic Dimensions of 'relativistic mass ??
2
see
Google
'The Y. Circlon mechanism''

3
do you have some secret intimate  relation with
MOTHER NATYRE ?? ......

TIA
Y.Porat
====================================

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#588160 — waves, zero

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-06 11:19 -0700
Subjectwaves, zero
Message-ID<cae5d0aa-3e91-483a-a4cd-b4bd33fda17c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588093
well, no&yes;
one part of relativistic mass is easily calculable
in keplerian terms of electronic orbitals
"in the direction of travel at some fraction of the speed
of lightwaves

> what are the basic Dimensions of 'relativistic mass ??

> do you have some secret intimate  relation with
> MOTHER NATYRE ?? ......
> 
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ====================================

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#588235 — Re: waves, zero

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-06 22:46 -0700
SubjectRe: waves, zero
Message-ID<c677b087-30ab-4435-8391-7a80a4d5780a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588160
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 9:19:44 PM UTC+3, noTthaTguY wrote:
> well, no&yes;
> one part of relativistic mass is easily calculable
> in keplerian terms of electronic orbitals
> "in the direction of travel at some fraction of the speed
> of lightwaves
=======================================
(:)


what has that to do with relativistic  mass
do you measure  Mass there !!!!!???
or you measure velocity ??!!
so
what makes changes in  velocity 

you have 
F =ma TIMES  gamma factor
so who the  F  tell   you that this gamma 
belongs to m !!!!!!

why not
F /Gamma times a 
AND M RELAINS CONSTSNT
2
we have the energy   of photons
E = h f

h is 
scalar times KILOGRAM meter ^2/second

do you se the Kilogram there ??!!

where the Fuck you see there 
any 
relativistic multiplier there 
-to make mass ''relativistic'' 
----- 
or where the Fuck
you see there anything like ZERO
to multiply those kilograms there
to make those kilograms to be zero ???!!!
===============
will there not be 
(more than 100 years !!!)
an end to stupidity parroting ???

unbelievable  parroting stupidity!!
by semi ''intelligent' decent  human beings 

TIA
Y.Porat
================================
   


> 
> > what are the basic Dimensions of 'relativistic mass ??
> 
> > do you have some secret intimate  relation with
> > MOTHER NATYRE ?? ......
> > 
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ====================================

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#588375 — no waves in no thing

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-08 11:00 -0700
Subjectno waves in no thing
Message-ID<42c5088b-f6ae-4041-bd54-09ae9959cc35@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588235
you have got to edit your ****, if
you want to comprehend, what you're trying to say to me;
if
you don't know Kepler's orbital constraint in the form
of a simple prOOf, now is a gOOd time for that;
it's just second-powering (or "skwaring

> > in keplerian terms of electronic orbitals
> > "in the direction of travel at some fraction of the speed
> > of lightwaves
> =======================================
> (:)
> 
> 
> what has that to do with relativistic  mass
> do you measure  Mass there !!!!!???
> or you measure velocity ??!!
> so
> what makes changes in  velocity 
> 
> you have 
> F =ma TIMES  gamma factor
> so who the  F  tell   you that this gamma 
> belongs to m !!!!!!
> 
> why not
> F /Gamma times a 
> AND M RELAINS CONSTSNT
> 2
> we have the energy   of photons
> E = h f
> 
> h is 
> scalar times KILOGRAM meter ^2/second
> 
> do you se the Kilogram there ??!!

> you see there anything like ZERO
> to multiply those kilograms there
> to make those kilograms to be zero ???!!!

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#588419 — Re: no waves in no thing

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-08 16:23 -0700
SubjectRe: no waves in no thing
Message-ID<2a13b5cd-034a-41ab-a0b8-61eca11b250f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588375
of course, it's nice to also start
with the two spatial versions of the pythagorean theorem,
that are not attributed to any one, AFAiK

> if
> you don't know Kepler's orbital constraint in the form
> of a simple prOOf, now is a gOOd time for that;
> it's just second-powering (or "skwaring
> 
> > > in keplerian terms of electronic orbitals
> > > "in the direction of travel at some fraction of the speed

> > E = h f

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#588634 — Re: no waves in no thing

Fromxxein1@att.net
Date2016-07-10 13:27 -0700
SubjectRe: no waves in no thing
Message-ID<26cdf14c-1d2c-4872-85b2-8389964e19cd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588375
On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 2:01:00 PM UTC-4, noTthaTguY wrote:
> you have got to edit your ****, if
> you want to comprehend, what you're trying to say to me;
> if
> you don't know Kepler's orbital constraint in the form
> of a simple prOOf, now is a gOOd time for that;
> it's just second-powering (or "skwaring
> 
> > > in keplerian terms of electronic orbitals
> > > "in the direction of travel at some fraction of the speed
> > > of lightwaves
> > =======================================
> > (:)
> > 
> > 
> > what has that to do with relativistic  mass
> > do you measure  Mass there !!!!!???
> > or you measure velocity ??!!
> > so
> > what makes changes in  velocity 
> > 
> > you have 
> > F =ma TIMES  gamma factor
> > so who the  F  tell   you that this gamma 
> > belongs to m !!!!!!
> > 
> > why not
> > F /Gamma times a 
> > AND M RELAINS CONSTSNT
> > 2
> > we have the energy   of photons
> > E = h f
> > 
> > h is 
> > scalar times KILOGRAM meter ^2/second
> > 
> > do you se the Kilogram there ??!!
> 
> > you see there anything like ZERO
> > to multiply those kilograms there
> > to make those kilograms to be zero ???!!!

xxein:  Kepler's formulation is meant to be gravitational celestial mechanics.  It has many forms of expression.  This is one case for circular orbits.

If we let M be G*m(mass in kg) /c^2, M is the geometric mass expressed in meters.  Earth has a mass of 5.97236535672e24 kg.  It's geometric mass is 0.0044350280391152 meters.  Any distance from the center of a mass can be expressed as multiples of its geometric mass (an 'M#' of meters distant).

If we let velocity be expressed as v/c at a particular M# of distance, a circular orbit velocity will be sqrt(1/M#) and its escape velocity will be sqrt(2/M#).  It follows that circular orbit velocity^2 + escape velocity^2 = 3/M#.  It can be noted that at a black hole radius of 3M (3*M#), 3/3=1 (the speed of light).  Also note that orbit velocity at 3M is NOT c (not even for light).  This helps explain why Einstein's bending of light is 2x that of the Newton formulation among other differences such as delay time or what have you at such general elliptical proximities to a massive body.  But even Einstein didn't realise this as such amidst his formulations couched in the observer oriented relativities of time and distances.  There can be no doubt that this is one of the reasons it's so difficult to reconcile the accepted theory of General Relativity with the accepted theory of Quantum Mechanics.

In the past, I had to retract saying that escape velocity^2 + circular orbit velocity^2 = c^2.  It should have been "=3/M".  3/M is universal whereas 3/3=1=1^2=c^2 is the special case of M being 3.

************
The mechanics of Kepler involved only the 1/r^2 effects of gravity in its geometry.  The behavior around a nucleus cannot claim the same.

The term 'gamma' is merely a factor to relate between a measured, observed reality and reality itself.  In reality, clocks do slow (gamma) and rods do shrink (gamma) with their speed relation to the speed of light and we use them as such in determining our 'measured' reality - BUT we do so carelessly and mostly uncomprehendingly.  Clocks may slow down but time does not.  Rods shrink but so does anything we can use to directly compare them with.  Almost.

Another day.

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#588926 — i.e pi modulus

FromnoTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-12 11:51 -0700
Subjecti.e pi modulus
Message-ID<80c3e788-2526-4e27-99d0-3ae52e97d7d7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588634
I know not what you are saying, but
the secondpower of the speed of light,
is just the rate of increase of the wavefront, areally speaking (mod pi e.g

> > > > in keplerian terms of electronic orbitals
> > > > "in the direction of travel at some fraction of the speed

> In the past, I had to retract saying that escape velocity^2 + circular orbit velocity^2 = c^2.  It should have been "=3/M".  3/M is universal whereas 3/3=1=1^2=c^2 is the special case of M being 3.
> 
> ************
> The mechanics of Kepler involved only the 1/r^2 effects of gravity in its geometry.  The behavior around a nucleus cannot claim the same.
> 
> The term 'gamma' is merely a factor to relate between a measured, observed reality and reality itself.  In reality, clocks do slow (gamma) and rods do shrink (gamma) with their speed relation to the speed of light and we use them as such in determining our 'measured' reality - BUT we do so carelessly and mostly uncomprehendingly.  Clocks may slow down but time does not.  Rods shrink but so does anything we can use to directly compare them with.  Almost.
> 
> Another day.

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#588220

From"Roberto" <invalid@example.com>
Date2016-07-06 18:18 -0700
Message-ID<nlkamb$1ae$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#588093
shitpost

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#588236

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-06 22:49 -0700
Message-ID<7a920d69-8e64-4d61-8688-6680e27eea5c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#588220
On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 4:19:13 AM UTC+3, Roberto wrote:
> shitpost
==================
pig gangster 
Go better F your mother 
================================

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