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| Started by | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-01-27 21:28 -0600 |
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Stellar parenting: Making new stars by 'adopting' stray cosmic gases Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 21:28 -0600
Re: Stellar parenting: Making new stars by 'adopting' stray cosmic gases jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-28 03:55 +0000
Stellar parenting: Making new stars by 'adopting' stray cosmic gases john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 08:45 -0800
Re: Stellar parenting: Making new stars by 'adopting' stray cosmic gases Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 11:27 -0600
Stellar parenting: Making new stars by 'adopting' stray cosmic gases HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 09:55 -0800
Re: Stellar parenting: Making new stars by 'adopting' stray cosmic gases benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 17:12 -0500
Re: Stellar parenting: Making new stars by 'adopting' stray cosmic gases Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 16:31 -0600
Re: Stellar parenting: Making new stars by 'adopting' stray cosmic gases moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-28 19:16 +0000
| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-27 21:28 -0600 |
| Subject | Stellar parenting: Making new stars by 'adopting' stray cosmic gases |
| Message-ID | <qYmdnTB5S_JRFzTLnZ2dnUU7-eMAAAAA@giganews.com> |
Stellar parenting: Making new stars by 'adopting' stray cosmic gases > http://phys.org/news/2016-01-stellar-parenting-stars-stray-cosmic.html > Instead of having all their stellar progeny at once, globular > clusters can somehow bear second or even third sets of thousands of > sibling stars. Now a new study led by researchers at the Kavli > Institute for Astronomy and Astrophysics (KIAA) at Peking University, > and including astronomers at Northwestern University, the Adler > Planetarium and the National Astronomical Observatories of the > Chinese Academy of Sciences (NAOC), might explain these puzzling, > successive stellar generations. > > Using observations by the Hubble Space Telescope, the research team > has for the first time found young populations of stars within > globular clusters that have apparently developed courtesy of > star-forming gas flowing in from outside of the clusters themselves. > This method stands in contrast to the conventional idea of the > clusters' initial stars shedding gas as they age in order to spark > future rounds of star birth. > > The study will be published in the Jan. 28 issue of the journal > Nature. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-01-28 03:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c2gonc-mrg.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #548703 |
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > Stellar parenting: Making new stars by 'adopting' stray cosmic gases Childish. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-28 08:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d207a00c-6e04-4cc2-a6be-7c29e1c4c585@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #548703 |
And here we were told that stars are eaten by black holes and nothing ever comes out. I wonder where those jets of high-energy particles end up? Maybe they go to where new stars are forming?
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-28 11:27 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n8dj1m$1gkp$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #548772 |
On 1/28/2016 10:45 AM, john wrote: > And here we were told that stars are > eaten by black holes and nothing ever > comes out. John, I have no idea who told you that. I just saw a Cosmos episode where Neil deGrasse Tyson said "Black holes are not star-swallowing monsters that grab everything around them." So do you remember where you were told that stars are eaten by black holes and nothing ever leaves the vicinity of black holes? Or do you only vaguely remember that you might have been told that somewhere? > I wonder where those jets > of high-energy particles end up? > Maybe they go to where new stars > are forming? > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-28 09:55 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6d459a3a-7b2a-4129-9977-86ac720e55b3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #548772 |
john And here we were told that stars are eaten by black holes and nothing ever comes out. ------------ Whoever told you that is an idiot. Slap them in the face. I wonder where those jets of high-energy particles end up? Maybe they go to where new stars are forming? ------------ Relativistic jets 'wind up' wherever the physical processes that govern the universe take them. You have a difficult time understanding this because you have neither the education, training, nor dedication to fully follow up on your own question. I will add, however, that some of these jets can and do cause star formation. Others do not. Again, the physics of the universe determine what will happen.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-28 17:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <9nwqy.180933$kN.66229@fx11.iad> |
| In reply to | #548792 |
On 01/28/2016 12:55 PM, HVAC wrote:
> john
> And here we were told that stars are
> eaten by black holes and nothing ever
> comes out.
> ------------
>
> Whoever told you that is an idiot.
> Slap them in the face.
>
>
>
> I wonder where those jets
> of high-energy particles end up?
> Maybe they go to where new stars
> are forming?
> ------------
>
> Relativistic jets 'wind up' wherever the physical processes that govern the universe take them.
>
> You have a difficult time understanding this because you have neither the education, training, nor dedication to fully follow up on your own question.
>
> I will add, however, that some of these jets can and do cause star formation. Others do not. Again, the physics of the universe determine what will happen.
>
That's right John. H&V believes that wherever his atheist god wills
relativistic jets to go, that is where they must go. Science is religion
to HVAC.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-28 16:31 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <n8e4so$frr$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #548864 |
On 1/28/2016 4:12 PM, benj wrote: > wherever his atheist god wills relativistic jets Ben, I ask you again: is an "atheist god" some deity that doesn't believe in himself? What does that even MEAN? -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
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| Date | 2016-01-28 19:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n8dpe7$sch$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| In reply to | #548772 |
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes: >And here we were told that stars are >eaten by black holes and nothing ever >comes out. I wonder where those jets >of high-energy particles end up? >Maybe they go to where new stars >are forming? The jets are created by the accretion disks, which are outside the black hole. Since the matter was never "inside" the black hole, it is not a contradiction that they come "from" a black hole (not quite). Where do the jets end up? Depends on where they happen to be aimed. Maybe into interstellar space and nothing happens. If they happened to be directed at a gas cloud, maybe they will trigger star formation in the cloud. Lots of things seem to trigger star formation in gas clouds. Supernovae, motion of other stars, compression (as when a cloud moves into a galactic arm), black hole jets striking the cloud, etc.
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