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Gravity curves motion.

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First post2018-12-24 18:35 -0800
Last post2018-12-31 07:15 -0600
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  Gravity curves motion. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-24 18:35 -0800
    Re: Gravity curves motion. poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-24 21:00 -0800
      Re: Gravity curves motion. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-25 10:23 -0800
        Re: Gravity curves motion. poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-25 15:31 -0800
          Re: Gravity curves motion. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-25 21:28 -0800
            Re: Gravity curves motion. poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-26 20:24 -0800
              Re: Gravity curves motion. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-26 20:40 -0800
    Re: Gravity curves motion. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 13:20 -0800
    Re: Gravity curves motion. poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-28 02:12 -0800
      Re: Gravity curves motion. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-28 13:41 -0800
        Re: Gravity curves motion. poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-28 17:35 -0800
          Re: Gravity curves motion. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-28 20:35 -0800
            Re: Gravity curves motion. poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-28 23:47 -0800
              Re: Gravity curves motion. Ronnie Laws <invalid@hotmail.com> - 2018-12-29 10:18 -0800
              Re: Gravity curves motion. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-29 14:10 -0800
                Re: Gravity curves motion. poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 08:05 -0800
    Re: Gravity curves motion. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 10:23 -0800
      Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-29 10:31 -0800
        Re: Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 14:09 -0800
          Everything evaporates, including "black holes". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-29 14:14 -0800
            Re: Everything evaporates, including "black holes". "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-29 14:18 -0800
            Re: Everything evaporates, including "black holes". "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 12:48 -0800
              Re: Everything evaporates, including "black holes". pnalsing@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 13:09 -0800
                Re: Everything evaporates, including "black holes". "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 11:05 -0800
        Re: Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-30 16:12 +0000
          Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-30 14:02 -0800
            Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-30 18:05 -0500
              Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 17:23 -0700
                Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 16:40 -0800
                  Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 17:48 -0700
                    Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 16:57 -0800
                      Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 18:02 -0700
                Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-30 17:53 -0700
                  Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 18:01 -0700
              Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-12-30 20:23 -0500
                Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 18:28 -0700
                  Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-30 18:35 -0800
                    Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 19:37 -0700
                      Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-30 18:52 -0800
                        Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 06:32 -0700
                          Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. "Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn>" <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-31 11:33 -0800
                Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-31 10:36 -0500
              Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. "Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn>" <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-30 19:28 -0800
                Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-31 10:39 -0500
              Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-31 07:15 -0600

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#721487 — Re: Everything evaporates, including "black holes".

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-12-29 14:18 -0800
SubjectRe: Everything evaporates, including "black holes".
Message-ID<q08rs0$add$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#721486
On 12/29/2018 2:14 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>>
>> How slow is slow ?
> 
> Very slow, it's not a concern to us humans.
> 
>> BHs prove you are wrong.
> 
> Everything evaporates, including "black holes".
> 

They leave behind, a naked singularity forever wandering around waiting 
to get close enough to some matter to get big again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_singularity

;^)

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#721587 — Re: Everything evaporates, including "black holes".

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-30 12:48 -0800
SubjectRe: Everything evaporates, including "black holes".
Message-ID<f81070d0-1414-4dcb-a9da-334f790cef62@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#721486
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 2:14:38 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
> > 
> > How slow is slow ?
> 
> Very slow, it's not a concern to us humans.
> 
> > BHs prove you are wrong.
> 
> Everything evaporates, including "black holes".

How long does it take a BH with the density of a Billion stars to evaporate? What are the features does this evaporating take? How does space hold this BH material? Is it point building stuff to make a neutrino or less? When the BH becomes less than less does it have an end? To just say BHs evaporate tell me nothing. I like ideas that do.Bert

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#721594 — Re: Everything evaporates, including "black holes".

Frompnalsing@gmail.com
Date2018-12-30 13:09 -0800
SubjectRe: Everything evaporates, including "black holes".
Message-ID<7939e62b-d80e-4a71-a349-8745ccfefc8c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#721587
On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:48:19 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:

> How long does it take a BH with the density of a Billion stars to evaporate?

Here you go, Bert...

https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/how-do-black-holes-evaporate-5463dbda6832

"It would take a whopping ~10^67 years for a black hole the mass of the Sun to evaporate, and around ~10^100 years for the largest black holes in the Universe. That may be far longer than the age of the Universe, but it’s still not forever. Although black holes may live longer than any other object known in the Universe, even they have their limits, and now you know how come!"

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#721912 — Re: Everything evaporates, including "black holes".

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2019-01-01 11:05 -0800
SubjectRe: Everything evaporates, including "black holes".
Message-ID<648e744b-5c9c-48fc-a4a4-b97a37e1d093@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#721594
On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 1:09:55 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:48:19 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> 
> > How long does it take a BH with the density of a Billion stars to evaporate?
> 
> Here you go, Bert...
> 
> https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/how-do-black-holes-evaporate-5463dbda6832
> 
> "It would take a whopping ~10^67 years for a black hole the mass of the Sun to evaporate, and around ~10^100 years for the largest black holes in the Universe. That may be far longer than the age of the Universe, but it’s still not forever. Although black holes may live longer than any other object known in the Universe, even they have their limits, and now you know how come!"

Thank you for that great BH site.Still its best be remembered that once inside a BH its all one way.On the area outside the event horizon stuff with enough energy can kick away for another day.That is not the same as evaporating.Bert

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#721562 — Re: Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2018-12-30 16:12 +0000
SubjectRe: Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
Message-ID<q0aqp5$onh$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#721458
Jeff-Relf.Me  @. writes:

>Mitchell wrote:
>> > God creates gravity.

>Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.

The only problem with that is that the total gravitational potential 
energy of the universe is _increasing_ as the energy from whatever is
causing galaxy clusters to move apart becomes gravitational potential
energy.

(plus, if gravity was becoming weaker, we would easily detect it)

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#721606 — Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-12-30 14:02 -0800
SubjectEntropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.30--2.02pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#721562
Michael replied:
> > Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
> 
> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it

We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.

Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense. 
Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.

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#721621 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

From"Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake>
Date2018-12-30 18:05 -0500
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<1hji2ehe1vl7gd1r06c8h7s7f732mcm1gr@4ax.com>
In reply to#721606
On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
>Michael replied:
>> > Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>> 
>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
>
>We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
>the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
>
>Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
>Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense. 
>Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.

Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
in the distant future mankind figured out how to 
instantaneously transport matter through a series
of wormholes not only in distance but in time.

After having determined that like Relf says, the
universe is winding down due to entropy the future
humans commenced to transport stars from the future
through the time/space portals so as to increase the
mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop 
the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an 
immortal universe.

Humans are the force that may determine the fate
of the universe.

-- 

Everybody here likes Yours Truly, 
Gregøry Hall - Bombastic Loudmouth of the South

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#721634 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-30 17:23 -0700
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<bs8d31.83e.19.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#721621
On 2018-12-30 4:05 p.m., Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
>> Michael replied:
>>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>>>
>>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
>>
>> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
>> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
>>
>> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
>> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
>> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
> 
> Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
> in the distant future mankind figured out how to
> instantaneously transport matter through a series
> of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
> 
> After having determined that like Relf says, the
> universe is winding down due to entropy the future
> humans commenced to transport stars from the future
> through the time/space portals so as to increase the
> mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
> the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
> immortal universe.
> 
> Humans are the force that may determine the fate
> of the universe.
> 
no they aren't the sun is

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#721636 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-12-30 16:40 -0800
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<c14fbfee-1ca3-481c-bf82-815bdc969670@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#721634
On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 4:23:30 PM UTC-8, % wrote:
> On 2018-12-30 4:05 p.m., Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
> >> Michael replied:
> >>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
> >>>
> >>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
> >>
> >> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
> >> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
> >>
> >> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
> >> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
> >> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
> > 
> > Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
> > in the distant future mankind figured out how to
> > instantaneously transport matter through a series
> > of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
> > 
> > After having determined that like Relf says, the
> > universe is winding down due to entropy the future
> > humans commenced to transport stars from the future
> > through the time/space portals so as to increase the
> > mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
> > the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
> > immortal universe.
> > 
> > Humans are the force that may determine the fate
> > of the universe.
> > 
> no they aren't the sun is

Hawking was ridiculous about evil people from
other worlds coming to kill us... the man was
a danger of himself. It is a blunder to
say that contact would ever be an evil thing.

Mitchell Raemsch


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#721637 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-30 17:48 -0700
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<bs8eho.pp6.19.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#721636
On 2018-12-30 5:40 p.m., mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 4:23:30 PM UTC-8, % wrote:
>> On 2018-12-30 4:05 p.m., Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
>>>> Michael replied:
>>>>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>>>>>
>>>>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
>>>>
>>>> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
>>>> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
>>>>
>>>> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
>>>> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
>>>> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
>>>
>>> Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
>>> in the distant future mankind figured out how to
>>> instantaneously transport matter through a series
>>> of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
>>>
>>> After having determined that like Relf says, the
>>> universe is winding down due to entropy the future
>>> humans commenced to transport stars from the future
>>> through the time/space portals so as to increase the
>>> mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
>>> the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
>>> immortal universe.
>>>
>>> Humans are the force that may determine the fate
>>> of the universe.
>>>
>> no they aren't the sun is
> 
> Hawking was ridiculous about evil people from
> other worlds coming to kill us... the man was
> a danger of himself. It is a blunder to
> say that contact would ever be an evil thing.
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> 
> 
i see it more as a herding thing

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#721640 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-12-30 16:57 -0800
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<0a8ddeac-bdaa-49a2-b4be-2c2acd1cdaae@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#721637
On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 4:48:24 PM UTC-8, % wrote:
> On 2018-12-30 5:40 p.m., mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 4:23:30 PM UTC-8, % wrote:
> >> On 2018-12-30 4:05 p.m., Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
> >>>> Michael replied:
> >>>>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
> >>>>
> >>>> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
> >>>> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
> >>>>
> >>>> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
> >>>> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
> >>>> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
> >>>
> >>> Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
> >>> in the distant future mankind figured out how to
> >>> instantaneously transport matter through a series
> >>> of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
> >>>
> >>> After having determined that like Relf says, the
> >>> universe is winding down due to entropy the future
> >>> humans commenced to transport stars from the future
> >>> through the time/space portals so as to increase the
> >>> mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
> >>> the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
> >>> immortal universe.
> >>>
> >>> Humans are the force that may determine the fate
> >>> of the universe.
> >>>
> >> no they aren't the sun is
> > 
> > Hawking was ridiculous about evil people from
> > other worlds coming to kill us... the man was
> > a danger of himself. It is a blunder to
> > say that contact would ever be an evil thing.
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> > 
> > 
> i see it more as a herding thing

Hawking was a dangerous person...
Maybe you belong under his herd...

Mitchell Raemsch

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#721643 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-30 18:02 -0700
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<bs8fd7.hm7.17.4@news.alt.net>
In reply to#721640
On 2018-12-30 5:57 p.m., mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 4:48:24 PM UTC-8, % wrote:
>> On 2018-12-30 5:40 p.m., mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 4:23:30 PM UTC-8, % wrote:
>>>> On 2018-12-30 4:05 p.m., Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
>>>>>> Michael replied:
>>>>>>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
>>>>>> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
>>>>>> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
>>>>>> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
>>>>> in the distant future mankind figured out how to
>>>>> instantaneously transport matter through a series
>>>>> of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
>>>>>
>>>>> After having determined that like Relf says, the
>>>>> universe is winding down due to entropy the future
>>>>> humans commenced to transport stars from the future
>>>>> through the time/space portals so as to increase the
>>>>> mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
>>>>> the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
>>>>> immortal universe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Humans are the force that may determine the fate
>>>>> of the universe.
>>>>>
>>>> no they aren't the sun is
>>>
>>> Hawking was ridiculous about evil people from
>>> other worlds coming to kill us... the man was
>>> a danger of himself. It is a blunder to
>>> say that contact would ever be an evil thing.
>>>
>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> i see it more as a herding thing
> 
> Hawking was a dangerous person...
> Maybe you belong under his herd...
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
no , he couldn't herd very well everyone spoke up

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#721639 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-12-30 17:53 -0700
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<g8t7kqFs78qU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#721634
On 12/30/18 5:23 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-12-30 4:05 p.m., Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
>>> Michael replied:
>>>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>>>>
>>>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
>>>
>>> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
>>> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
>>>
>>> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
>>> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
>>> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
>>
>> Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
>> in the distant future mankind figured out how to
>> instantaneously transport matter through a series
>> of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
>>
>> After having determined that like Relf says, the
>> universe is winding down due to entropy the future
>> humans commenced to transport stars from the future
>> through the time/space portals so as to increase the
>> mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
>> the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
>> immortal universe.
>>
>> Humans are the force that may determine the fate
>> of the universe.
>>
> no they aren't the sun is

Chickens.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#721641 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-30 18:01 -0700
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<bs8f9t.hm7.17.3@news.alt.net>
In reply to#721639
On 2018-12-30 5:53 p.m., Snit wrote:
> On 12/30/18 5:23 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-12-30 4:05 p.m., Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
>>>> Michael replied:
>>>>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>>>>>
>>>>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
>>>>
>>>> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
>>>> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
>>>>
>>>> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
>>>> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
>>>> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
>>>
>>> Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
>>> in the distant future mankind figured out how to
>>> instantaneously transport matter through a series
>>> of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
>>>
>>> After having determined that like Relf says, the
>>> universe is winding down due to entropy the future
>>> humans commenced to transport stars from the future
>>> through the time/space portals so as to increase the
>>> mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
>>> the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
>>> immortal universe.
>>>
>>> Humans are the force that may determine the fate
>>> of the universe.
>>>
>> no they aren't the sun is
> 
> Chickens.
> 
yellow

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#721645 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

Frommixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie>
Date2018-12-30 20:23 -0500
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<q0br27$ls9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#721621
On 12/30/2018 6:05 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
>> Michael replied:
>>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>>>
>>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
>>
>> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
>> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
>>
>> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
>> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
>> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
> 
> Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
> in the distant future mankind figured out how to
> instantaneously transport matter through a series
> of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
> 
> After having determined that like Relf says, the
> universe is winding down due to entropy the future
> humans commenced to transport stars from the future
> through the time/space portals so as to increase the
> mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
> the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
> immortal universe.
> 
> Humans are the force that may determine the fate
> of the universe.

What happens when humans get to the future and all the stars are gone 
because science fiction stole 'em and used 'em all up?

-- 
Grizzly H.

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#721648 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-30 18:28 -0700
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<bs8gst.glp.19.4@news.alt.net>
In reply to#721645
On 2018-12-30 6:23 p.m., mixed nuts wrote:
> On 12/30/2018 6:05 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
>>> Michael replied:
>>>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>>>>
>>>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
>>>
>>> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
>>> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
>>>
>>> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
>>> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
>>> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
>>
>> Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
>> in the distant future mankind figured out how to
>> instantaneously transport matter through a series
>> of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
>>
>> After having determined that like Relf says, the
>> universe is winding down due to entropy the future
>> humans commenced to transport stars from the future
>> through the time/space portals so as to increase the
>> mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
>> the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
>> immortal universe.
>>
>> Humans are the force that may determine the fate
>> of the universe.
> 
> What happens when humans get to the future and all the stars are gone 
> because science fiction stole 'em and used 'em all up?
> 
good thing i'm a star , everyone zoom in on me

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#721656 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-12-30 18:35 -0800
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<q0bv97$rn9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#721648
On 12/30/2018 5:28 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-12-30 6:23 p.m., mixed nuts wrote:
>> On 12/30/2018 6:05 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
>>>> Michael replied:
>>>>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>>>>>
>>>>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
>>>>
>>>> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
>>>> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
>>>>
>>>> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
>>>> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
>>>> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
>>>
>>> Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
>>> in the distant future mankind figured out how to
>>> instantaneously transport matter through a series
>>> of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
>>>
>>> After having determined that like Relf says, the
>>> universe is winding down due to entropy the future
>>> humans commenced to transport stars from the future
>>> through the time/space portals so as to increase the
>>> mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
>>> the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
>>> immortal universe.
>>>
>>> Humans are the force that may determine the fate
>>> of the universe.
>>
>> What happens when humans get to the future and all the stars are gone 
>> because science fiction stole 'em and used 'em all up?
>>
> good thing i'm a star , everyone zoom in on me

Fractal like zoom?

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#721658 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-30 19:37 -0700
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<bs8kuv.app.17.4@news.alt.net>
In reply to#721656
On 2018-12-30 7:35 p.m., Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 12/30/2018 5:28 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-12-30 6:23 p.m., mixed nuts wrote:
>>> On 12/30/2018 6:05 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
>>>>> Michael replied:
>>>>>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
>>>>>
>>>>> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
>>>>> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
>>>>> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
>>>>> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
>>>>
>>>> Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
>>>> in the distant future mankind figured out how to
>>>> instantaneously transport matter through a series
>>>> of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
>>>>
>>>> After having determined that like Relf says, the
>>>> universe is winding down due to entropy the future
>>>> humans commenced to transport stars from the future
>>>> through the time/space portals so as to increase the
>>>> mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
>>>> the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
>>>> immortal universe.
>>>>
>>>> Humans are the force that may determine the fate
>>>> of the universe.
>>>
>>> What happens when humans get to the future and all the stars are gone 
>>> because science fiction stole 'em and used 'em all up?
>>>
>> good thing i'm a star , everyone zoom in on me
> 
> Fractal like zoom?

nice of you to offer but you couldn't handle the steam

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#721660 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-12-30 18:52 -0800
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<q0c08r$2aj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#721658
On 12/30/2018 6:37 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-12-30 7:35 p.m., Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 12/30/2018 5:28 PM, % wrote:
>>> On 2018-12-30 6:23 p.m., mixed nuts wrote:
>>>> On 12/30/2018 6:05 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
>>>>>> Michael replied:
>>>>>>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
>>>>>> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
>>>>>> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
>>>>>> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
>>>>> in the distant future mankind figured out how to
>>>>> instantaneously transport matter through a series
>>>>> of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
>>>>>
>>>>> After having determined that like Relf says, the
>>>>> universe is winding down due to entropy the future
>>>>> humans commenced to transport stars from the future
>>>>> through the time/space portals so as to increase the
>>>>> mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
>>>>> the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
>>>>> immortal universe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Humans are the force that may determine the fate
>>>>> of the universe.
>>>>
>>>> What happens when humans get to the future and all the stars are 
>>>> gone because science fiction stole 'em and used 'em all up?
>>>>
>>> good thing i'm a star , everyone zoom in on me
>>
>> Fractal like zoom?
> 
> nice of you to offer but you couldn't handle the steam

No shi%! I do think that you, damn near everybody, possesses 
capabilities of damn near infinite thought and creativity. It is most 
important that we create a border between the thoughts that make sense, 
vs the non-sense. Well, there is a border in the infinity. Just the 
border of, say, the Mandelbrot set.

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#721725 — Re: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-31 06:32 -0700
SubjectRe: Entropy KILLS _ everything, including gravity.
Message-ID<bs9rav.15t.19.6@news.alt.net>
In reply to#721660
On 2018-12-30 7:52 p.m., Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 12/30/2018 6:37 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-12-30 7:35 p.m., Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>> On 12/30/2018 5:28 PM, % wrote:
>>>> On 2018-12-30 6:23 p.m., mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>> On 12/30/2018 6:05 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:02:59 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael replied:
>>>>>>>>> Gravity is a residual exergy, and it's slowly dying.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if gravity were becoming weaker, we'd detect it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We do; it's called: lambda, entropy, dark energy, evaporation,
>>>>>>> the cosmological constant, the accelerated expansion of outerspace.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everything evaporates, the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.
>>>>>>> Earth is losing the moon.  The sun is (relatively) hot and dense.
>>>>>>> Entropy KILLS everything, including gravity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not necessarily. I read a science fiction book where
>>>>>> in the distant future mankind figured out how to
>>>>>> instantaneously transport matter through a series
>>>>>> of wormholes not only in distance but in time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After having determined that like Relf says, the
>>>>>> universe is winding down due to entropy the future
>>>>>> humans commenced to transport stars from the future
>>>>>> through the time/space portals so as to increase the
>>>>>> mass of the universe in the present just enough to stop
>>>>>> the expansion thus insuring their immortal selves an
>>>>>> immortal universe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Humans are the force that may determine the fate
>>>>>> of the universe.
>>>>>
>>>>> What happens when humans get to the future and all the stars are 
>>>>> gone because science fiction stole 'em and used 'em all up?
>>>>>
>>>> good thing i'm a star , everyone zoom in on me
>>>
>>> Fractal like zoom?
>>
>> nice of you to offer but you couldn't handle the steam
> 
> No shi%! I do think that you, damn near everybody, possesses 
> capabilities of damn near infinite thought and creativity. It is most 
> important that we create a border between the thoughts that make sense, 
> vs the non-sense. Well, there is a border in the infinity. Just the 
> border of, say, the Mandelbrot set.

yankee doodle

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