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  Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 09:51 -0600
    Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-10 18:26 +0000
    Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-11-10 13:10 -0800
      Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 16:45 -0600
        Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 16:25 -0800
          Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 18:57 -0600
            Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 17:03 -0800
              Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 19:07 -0600
                Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 09:05 -0800
                  Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:11 -0600
              Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:36 -0600
              Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 09:14 -0800
                Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 12:56 -0500
            Re: Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 13:04 -0800

#531788 — Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion

Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion
> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-doomed-quasar-powerful-explosion.html


> PKS 1302-102 is one of the few known quasars with a pair of black
> holes within its accretion disc. It is also a curious case for
> astronomers as it will produce a powerful explosion when these two
> black holes merge. The scientists trying to determine the scale of
> this merger estimate that it could result in an enormous release of
> energy.
>
> "The result will be an enormous release of energy, roughly equivalent
> to millions of supernovae, in the form of gravitational waves,"
> Matthew Graham of the California Institute of Technology (Caltech),
> one of the co-discoverers of PKS 1302-102, told Phys.org.
>
> The quasar is in its final phase of the merging process. It could
> help us predict what the final stages of a black hole merger look
> like or how long the process might take. This is the so-called "final
> parsec problem", yet unsolved, as all theoretical models failed to
> explain the process.
>
> Graham and his colleagues at Caltech, using the Catalina Real-Time
> Transient Survey, detected a strong, smooth periodic signal when
> observing PKS 1302-102 in optical and infrared light. Periodic signal
> was something that scientists haven't seen before in a quasar, so
> they suggest that it means the presence of a pair of supermassive
> black holes.


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#531829

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-doomed-quasar-powerful-explosion.html
> 
> 
>> PKS 1302-102 is one of the few known quasars with a pair of black
>> holes within its accretion disc. It is also a curious case for
>> astronomers as it will produce a powerful explosion when these two
>> black holes merge. The scientists trying to determine the scale of
>> this merger estimate that it could result in an enormous release of
>> energy.
>>
>> "The result will be an enormous release of energy, roughly equivalent
>> to millions of supernovae, in the form of gravitational waves,"
>> Matthew Graham of the California Institute of Technology (Caltech),
>> one of the co-discoverers of PKS 1302-102, told Phys.org.
>>
>> The quasar is in its final phase of the merging process. It could
>> help us predict what the final stages of a black hole merger look
>> like or how long the process might take. This is the so-called "final
>> parsec problem", yet unsolved, as all theoretical models failed to
>> explain the process.
>>
>> Graham and his colleagues at Caltech, using the Catalina Real-Time
>> Transient Survey, detected a strong, smooth periodic signal when
>> observing PKS 1302-102 in optical and infrared light. Periodic signal
>> was something that scientists haven't seen before in a quasar, so
>> they suggest that it means the presence of a pair of supermassive
>> black holes.
 
Oh no!!!
 

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#531882

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 7:51:09 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion
> > http://phys.org/news/2015-11-doomed-quasar-powerful-explosion.html
> 
> 
> > PKS 1302-102 is one of the few known quasars with a pair of black
> > holes within its accretion disc. It is also a curious case for
> > astronomers as it will produce a powerful explosion when these two
> > black holes merge. The scientists trying to determine the scale of
> > this merger estimate that it could result in an enormous release of
> > energy.
> >
> > "The result will be an enormous release of energy, roughly equivalent
> > to millions of supernovae, in the form of gravitational waves,"
> > Matthew Graham of the California Institute of Technology (Caltech),
> > one of the co-discoverers of PKS 1302-102, told Phys.org.
> >
> > The quasar is in its final phase of the merging process. It could
> > help us predict what the final stages of a black hole merger look
> > like or how long the process might take. This is the so-called "final
> > parsec problem", yet unsolved, as all theoretical models failed to
> > explain the process.
> >
> > Graham and his colleagues at Caltech, using the Catalina Real-Time
> > Transient Survey, detected a strong, smooth periodic signal when
> > observing PKS 1302-102 in optical and infrared light. Periodic signal
> > was something that scientists haven't seen before in a quasar, so
> > they suggest that it means the presence of a pair of supermassive
> > black holes.


So, will the radiation from the explosion be great enough to eradicate all live from the Earth?

Double-A

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#532873

On 11/10/15 3:10 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 7:51:09 AM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion
>>> http://phys.org/news/2015-11-doomed-quasar-powerful-explosion.html
>>
>>
>>> PKS 1302-102 is one of the few known quasars with a pair of black
>>> holes within its accretion disc. It is also a curious case for
>>> astronomers as it will produce a powerful explosion when these two
>>> black holes merge. The scientists trying to determine the scale of
>>> this merger estimate that it could result in an enormous release of
>>> energy.
>>>
>>> "The result will be an enormous release of energy, roughly equivalent
>>> to millions of supernovae, in the form of gravitational waves,"
>>> Matthew Graham of the California Institute of Technology (Caltech),
>>> one of the co-discoverers of PKS 1302-102, told Phys.org.
>>>
>>> The quasar is in its final phase of the merging process. It could
>>> help us predict what the final stages of a black hole merger look
>>> like or how long the process might take. This is the so-called "final
>>> parsec problem", yet unsolved, as all theoretical models failed to
>>> explain the process.
>>>
>>> Graham and his colleagues at Caltech, using the Catalina Real-Time
>>> Transient Survey, detected a strong, smooth periodic signal when
>>> observing PKS 1302-102 in optical and infrared light. Periodic signal
>>> was something that scientists haven't seen before in a quasar, so
>>> they suggest that it means the presence of a pair of supermassive
>>> black holes.
>
>
> So, will the radiation from the explosion be great enough to eradicate all live from the Earth?
>
> Double-A
>

   The majority of the radiation will be gravitational -- probably
   detectable by LIGO.



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#532906

Sam said
" The majority of the radiation will be gravitational -- probably 
   detectable by LIGO. "
Mumbling nonsense

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#532920

On 11/13/15 6:25 PM, john wrote:
> Sam said
> " The majority of the radiation will be gravitational -- probably
>     detectable by LIGO. "
> Mumbling nonsense
>

   Why do you say that, John? Do you not understand the predictions
   of relativity? Do you not realize that there has never been an
   observation that contradicts a prediction of relativity? Do you
   not understand how science works? WTF is a matter with you?

   Positrons were predicted before they were discovered.
   Neutrinos were predicted before they were discovered.

   Gravitational waves were predicted and indirectly observed--they
   will soon be observed by LIGO.

   Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion
 > http://phys.org/news/2015-11-doomed-quasar-powerful-explosion.html


 > PKS 1302-102 is one of the few known quasars with a pair of black
 > holes within its accretion disc. It is also a curious case for
 > astronomers as it will produce a powerful explosion when these two
 > black holes merge. The scientists trying to determine the scale of
 > this merger estimate that it could result in an enormous release of
 > energy.
 >
 > "The result will be an enormous release of energy, roughly equivalent
 > to millions of supernovae, in the form of gravitational waves,"
 > Matthew Graham of the California Institute of Technology (Caltech),
 > one of the co-discoverers of PKS 1302-102, told Phys.org.
 >
 > The quasar is in its final phase of the merging process. It could
 > help us predict what the final stages of a black hole merger look
 > like or how long the process might take. This is the so-called "final
 > parsec problem", yet unsolved, as all theoretical models failed to
 > explain the process.
 >
 > Graham and his colleagues at Caltech, using the Catalina Real-Time
 > Transient Survey, detected a strong, smooth periodic signal when
 > observing PKS 1302-102 in optical and infrared light. Periodic signal
 > was something that scientists haven't seen before in a quasar, so
 > they suggest that it means the presence of a pair of supermassive
 > black holes.


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#532925

Grav waves are nonsense.
Suck Gravity is nonsense.
This very nonsense has been deliberately 
kept alive by those who would forever
keep us burning oil

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#532928

On 11/13/15 7:03 PM, john wrote:
> Grav waves are nonsense.
> Suck Gravity is nonsense.
> This very nonsense has been deliberately kept alive by those who
> would forever keep us burning oil

   Sound like you are a conspiracy theory believer, John.

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#533502

Haven't you been passing attention, Sam?

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#533506

On 11/16/15 11:05 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Haven't you been passing attention, Sam?
>

   I pretty much keep Sefton and the like in my Plonkers Cellar.
   Outta sight - Outta mind. There's physics to thinks about, not
   their mumblings.

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#533486

On 11/13/2015 7:03 PM, john wrote:
> Grav waves are nonsense.
> Suck Gravity is nonsense.
> This very nonsense has been deliberately
> kept alive by those who would forever
> keep us burning oil
>

Excuse me? What does the petroleum industry have to do with anyone 
working on gravitational theory?

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#533509

John and his butt buddy BJ are the opposite of science lovers. They are science haters. They hate the fact that science has strict rules as to proper evidence. These strict rules do not allow for their pet kook beliefs... Esp, ghosts, remote viewing, and other trash ideas.

John is just some clueless pedo with lots of mental health problems. But BJ has lucid moments which seem to go completely off the rails when the discussion turns to the paranormal.

This mix of paranoia and delusional beliefs have kept him from living a normal life. Kept him from marriage and children. This has led him into the bitter and unfulfilled 'life' that he now has.

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#533527

On 11/16/2015 12:14 PM, HVAC wrote:
> John and his butt buddy BJ are the opposite of science lovers. They are science haters. They hate the fact that science has strict rules as to proper evidence. These strict rules do not allow for their pet kook beliefs... Esp, ghosts, remote viewing, and other trash ideas.
>
> John is just some clueless pedo with lots of mental health problems. But BJ has lucid moments which seem to go completely off the rails when the discussion turns to the paranormal.
>
> This mix of paranoia and delusional beliefs have kept him from living a normal life. Kept him from marriage and children. This has led him into the bitter and unfulfilled 'life' that he now has.
>
HVAC, Let some of the other patients on the ward computer for a while, OK?

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#533605

On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 4:57:17 PM UTC-8, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 11/13/15 6:25 PM, john wrote:
> > Sam said
> > " The majority of the radiation will be gravitational -- probably
> >     detectable by LIGO. "
> > Mumbling nonsense
> >
> 
>    Why do you say that, John? Do you not understand the predictions
>    of relativity? Do you not realize that there has never been an
>    observation that contradicts a prediction of relativity? Do you
>    not understand how science works? WTF is a matter with you?
> 
>    Positrons were predicted before they were discovered.
>    Neutrinos were predicted before they were discovered.
> 
>    Gravitational waves were predicted and indirectly observed--they
>    will soon be observed by LIGO.
> 
>    Doomed quasar is heading for a powerful explosion
>  > http://phys.org/news/2015-11-doomed-quasar-powerful-explosion.html
> 
> 
>  > PKS 1302-102 is one of the few known quasars with a pair of black
>  > holes within its accretion disc. It is also a curious case for
>  > astronomers as it will produce a powerful explosion when these two
>  > black holes merge. The scientists trying to determine the scale of
>  > this merger estimate that it could result in an enormous release of
>  > energy.
>  >
>  > "The result will be an enormous release of energy, roughly equivalent
>  > to millions of supernovae, in the form of gravitational waves,"
>  > Matthew Graham of the California Institute of Technology (Caltech),
>  > one of the co-discoverers of PKS 1302-102, told Phys.org.
>  >
>  > The quasar is in its final phase of the merging process. It could
>  > help us predict what the final stages of a black hole merger look
>  > like or how long the process might take. This is the so-called "final
>  > parsec problem", yet unsolved, as all theoretical models failed to
>  > explain the process.
>  >
>  > Graham and his colleagues at Caltech, using the Catalina Real-Time
>  > Transient Survey, detected a strong, smooth periodic signal when
>  > observing PKS 1302-102 in optical and infrared light. Periodic signal
>  > was something that scientists haven't seen before in a quasar, so
>  > they suggest that it means the presence of a pair of supermassive
>  > black holes.
> 
> 
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Atoms were predicted 2,000 years be for they were discovered.I predicted gravity works without waving.LIGO will prove I'm clever.I gave my reasons why LIGO is 100% Rube Goldberg. Only GOP Mafia can get away with spending big bucks on this piece of crap. Ask to see the LIGO $$$$$$ books and watch the back of your head.Think JFK + Bobby Think of the Micky Mouse shuttles.Think of running H20 on Mars. Think of 2 billion stolen by GOP NASA every year the shuttles flew. Think after 13.5 trillion stolen in 8 years of Bush,and now up to 18.7 trillion there is no $$$$$$ left to steal. LIGO I predict will go down as a GOP lie. TreBert  Ps Will the Chinese be paid to glass wax the mirrors?

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