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  The seasonal fingerprint of climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-25 05:48 -0400
    Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-07-25 07:33 -0400
      Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change snipeco.2@gmail.com (Wader of Doom) - 2018-07-25 12:43 +0100
      Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-25 09:44 -0500
      Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change Frank <"frank "@frank.net> - 2018-07-26 13:07 -0400
        Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 19:42 -0400
        Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 05:28 -0400
          Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change KenStomper <k3n5t0mP3r@qmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:01 +0000
            Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-07-27 12:22 +0100
    Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-25 11:32 -0400
      Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-26 05:43 -0400
        Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-07-26 08:17 -0400
          Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:03 -0400
            Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 05:35 -0400
              Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change KenStomper <k3n5t0mpeR@qmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:03 +0000
              Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 12:32 -0400
                Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-28 06:11 -0400
                  Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change KenST0MP!si <stAmpYng0NkEnsi@mahil.com> - 2018-07-28 11:31 +0000
                    Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-07-28 13:42 +0100
                      Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 06:59 -0700
                      Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 09:41 -0700
                        Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-28 15:34 -0500
                  Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 15:28 -0400
                    Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-28 16:40 -0500
                    Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-29 04:34 -0400
                      Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change K333nZiZT0MP!er <k33333nZiZT0MPre@jffdsad.com> - 2018-07-29 11:30 +0000
                        Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-29 07:56 -0400
                      Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 12:32 -0400
                        Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 08:46 -0400
                          Re: The seasonal fingerprint of climate change benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 13:47 -0400

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#695500 — The seasonal fingerprint of climate change

The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from 
observational data is challenging:

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6399/227.full

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#695503

On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 05:48:33 -0400, kensi wrote:

>The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from 
>observational data is challenging:

... it's so much easier to make shit up and repeat it until it is
"True."


>
>http://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6399/227.full

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#695504

Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 05:48:33 -0400, Paul "NerdyBoi" Derbyshire 
> in his "Professor kensi Kensington Fu.D." costume confidently declared:
> "The sky is falling!" 
> 
> >The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from 
> >observational data is challenging:
> 
> ... it's so much easier to make shit up and repeat it until it is
> "True."
> 
> 
> >
> >http://sciences.sciencemag.org/content/361/6399/227.full
>

Not wanted in alt.checkmate, thanks.    [fu2: bit-bucket]

P.S.  Fuck off, Paul.

-- 
Darth Wader, WoD #1             No Club 

I can't help it 'bout the shape I'm in,
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin.
Don't ask me what I think of you,
I might not give the answer that you want me to.
 

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#695512

On 7/25/2018 6:33 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 05:48:33 -0400, kensi wrote:
> 
>> The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from 
>> observational data is challenging:
> 
> ... it's so much easier to make shit up and repeat it until it is
> "True."
> 
> 
>>
>> http://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6399/227.full
> 

from the Summery;

"The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from
observational data is challenging. Climate-change effects over the time
scale of decades are relatively small compared to natural variability
but become progressively larger and influential as time proceeds.
Detection of an evolving forced climate signal in observational data is
often based on identifying characteristic space-time patterns; this
approach is referred to as fingerprint or optimal detection studies. On
page 245 of this issue, Santer et al. (1) identify a previously
undetected fingerprint in the mid-latitude seasonal temperature cycle of
temperature sensed by satellites over the past four decades. The work
adds to the rigorous evidence for human influence on observed
atmospheric changes."



so it is NOT a proven fact at all, but requires "fingerprints" in vast
amounts of made up data...

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#695717

On 7/25/2018 7:33 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 05:48:33 -0400, kensi wrote:
> 
>> The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from
>> observational data is challenging:
> 
> ... it's so much easier to make shit up and repeat it until it is
> "True."
> 
Comical in that you have to log in to view it. The dot head could have 
cut and pasted.

I think they are going to tell me that it is hot in the summer and cold 
in the winter but I already know that.

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#695794

On 7/26/2018 1:07 PM, Frank wrote:
> On 7/25/2018 7:33 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 05:48:33 -0400, kensi wrote:
>>
>>> The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from
>>> observational data is challenging:
>>
>> ... it's so much easier to make shit up and repeat it until it is
>> "True."
>>
> Comical in that you have to log in to view it. The dot head could have 
> cut and pasted.
> 
> I think they are going to tell me that it is hot in the summer and cold 
> in the winter but I already know that.

But they are also going to tell you that being hot in summer and cold in 
winter is caused by civilization using the fuels that Exxon and evil 
corporations sell. But worse than that, CO2 is causing wildfires 
(formerly called forest fires) all over the West being fought by fire 
fighters (formerly called firemen) and flooding devastation all over the 
East as CO2 causes rain and rising sea levels. It's all due to climate 
change (formerly called anthropogenic global warming) and it's all 
"worse than we thought" because of you "deniers" (formerly called 
skeptics) refusing to pay your "common sense" energy taxes.

Settled Science.

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#695853

On 7/26/2018 1:07 PM, Frank wrote:
> On 7/25/2018 7:33 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 05:48:33 -0400, kensi wrote:
>>
>>> The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from
>>> observational data is challenging:
>>
>> ... it's so much easier to make shit up and repeat it until it is
>> "True."
>
> Comical in that you have to log in to view it. The dot head could have 
> cut and pasted.

Who is "The dot head", ko0k? There is nobody in this newsgroup using 
that alias.

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#695858

On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 05:28:39 -0400, kensi wrote:

> On 7/26/2018 1:07 PM, Frank wrote:
>> On 7/25/2018 7:33 AM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 05:48:33 -0400, kensi wrote:
>>>
>>>> The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from
>>>> observational data is challenging:
>>>
>>> ... it's so much easier to make shit up and repeat it until it is
>>> "True."
>>
>> Comical in that you have to log in to view it. The dot head could have
>> cut and pasted.
> 
> Who is "The dot head", ko0k? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
> that alias.

Kooooooooooooooooki Kensi the koooooki koook is koooooooking out again. 
How many socks do you think I might find just by searching for these bits 
of tholenbot doggerel in google, looon?

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#695862

KenStomper <k3n5t0mP3r@qmail.com> wrote:

> Paul "NerdyBoi" Derbyshire in his "Professor kensi Kensington Fu.D." 
> costume confidently declared: 

[...]

> > Who is "The dot head", ko0k? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
> > that alias.
> 
> Kooooooooooooooooki Kensi the koooooki koook is koooooooking out again.
> How many socks do you think I might find just by searching for these bits
> of tholenbot doggerel in google, looon?

@qmail, lol.

-- 
^Ï^.   My pet rock Gordon's word of the day is '.corn'.

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#695519

On 7/25/2018 5:48 AM, kensi wrote:
> The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from 
> observational data is challenging:
> 
> http://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6399/227.full
> 
PAY WALL.
Sorry "kensi" but I haven't been an AAAS member for a long time. I quit 
due to their political propaganda activities.

(Is commendable that you are trying to find better science propaganda 
than the Guardian)

Here, get schooled from an MIT professor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwqIy8Ikv-c

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#695663

On 7/25/2018 11:32 AM, benj wrote:
> On 7/25/2018 5:48 AM, kensi wrote:
>> The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from 
>> observational data is challenging:
>>
>> http://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6399/227.full
>
> PAY WALL.

Oops, sorry, have access to stuff from on campus that isn't always 
available to everyone, and it isn't always obvious that it isn't. But 
you could try libgen.io, ICanHazPDF, or other such sources ...

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#695670

On 7/26/2018 5:43 AM, kensi wrote:
> On 7/25/2018 11:32 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 7/25/2018 5:48 AM, kensi wrote:
>>> The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from 
>>> observational data is challenging:
>>>
>>> http://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6399/227.full
>>
>> PAY WALL.
> 
> Oops, sorry, have access to stuff from on campus that isn't always 
> available to everyone, and it isn't always obvious that it isn't. But 
> you could try libgen.io, ICanHazPDF, or other such sources ...

Or, if you was a science guy, you could join the AAAS and support science.

-- 
Grizzly H.

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#695686

On 7/26/2018 8:17 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 7/26/2018 5:43 AM, kensi wrote:
>> On 7/25/2018 11:32 AM, benj wrote:
>>> On 7/25/2018 5:48 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>> The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from 
>>>> observational data is challenging:
>>>>
>>>> http://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6399/227.full
>>>
>>> PAY WALL.
>>
>> Oops, sorry, have access to stuff from on campus that isn't always 
>> available to everyone, and it isn't always obvious that it isn't. But 
>> you could try libgen.io, ICanHazPDF, or other such sources ...
> 
> Or, if you was a science guy, you could join the AAAS and support science.
> 
Well, support their political propaganda efforts like the climate change 
scam, but "kensi" like all libs is only into freeloading. Actually 
paying money is just for "workers" not for them.

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#695854

On 7/26/2018 10:03 AM, benj wrote:
> On 7/26/2018 8:17 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>> On 7/26/2018 5:43 AM, kensi wrote:
>>> On 7/25/2018 11:32 AM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 7/25/2018 5:48 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>> The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from 
>>>>> observational data is challenging:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6399/227.full
>>>>
>>>> PAY WALL.
>>>
>>> Oops, sorry, have access to stuff from on campus that isn't always 
>>> available to everyone, and it isn't always obvious that it isn't. But 
>>> you could try libgen.io, ICanHazPDF, or other such sources ...
>>
>> Or, if you was a science guy, you could join the AAAS and support 
>> science.
>
> Well, support their political propaganda efforts like the climate change 
> scam, but "kensi" like all libs is only into freeloading.

Absurd "academic publishing racket" is past its sell-by date

In the /Observer/, John Naughton unloads both barrels on the "academic 
publishing racket" in which giant multinational publishers get free, 
state-subsidized research to publish, use free, state-subsidized labor 
for peer-review, require assignments of the scholars' copyrights as a 
condition of publication, then charge astounding sums to the scientists 
and academics they are "serving" for the right to read the work they're 
all engaged in producing:

https://boingboing.net/2012/04/22/absurd-academic-publishing-r.html

Guess who the real freeloaders are? Yep, Elsevier and friends. Viva la 
Sci-Hub revolución!

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#695859

On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 05:35:48 -0400, kensi wrote:

> On 7/26/2018 10:03 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 7/26/2018 8:17 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>> On 7/26/2018 5:43 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>> On 7/25/2018 11:32 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 7/25/2018 5:48 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>> The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from
>>>>>> observational data is challenging:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6399/227.full
>>>>>
>>>>> PAY WALL.
>>>>
>>>> Oops, sorry, have access to stuff from on campus that isn't always
>>>> available to everyone, and it isn't always obvious that it isn't. But
>>>> you could try libgen.io, ICanHazPDF, or other such sources ...
>>>
>>> Or, if you was a science guy, you could join the AAAS and support
>>> science.
>>
>> Well, support their political propaganda efforts like the climate
>> change scam, but "kensi" like all libs is only into freeloading.
> 
> Absurd "academic publishing racket" is past its sell-by date
> 
> In the /Observer/, John Naughton unloads both barrels on the "academic
> publishing racket" in which giant multinational publishers get free,
> state-subsidized research to publish, use free, state-subsidized labor
> for peer-review, require assignments of the scholars' copyrights as a
> condition of publication, then charge astounding sums to the scientists
> and academics they are "serving" for the right to read the work they're
> all engaged in producing:
> 
> https://boingboing.net/2012/04/22/absurd-academic-publishing-r.html
> 
> Guess who the real freeloaders are? Yep, Elsevier and friends. Viva la
> Sci-Hub revolución!

Koooooooooooooooooki Kensi teh pirate sez, "Hardy har har!"

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#695890

On 7/27/2018 5:35 AM, kensi wrote:
> On 7/26/2018 10:03 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 7/26/2018 8:17 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>> On 7/26/2018 5:43 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>> On 7/25/2018 11:32 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 7/25/2018 5:48 AM, kensi wrote:
>>>>>> The identification of anthropogenically forced climate change from 
>>>>>> observational data is challenging:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6399/227.full
>>>>>
>>>>> PAY WALL.
>>>>
>>>> Oops, sorry, have access to stuff from on campus that isn't always 
>>>> available to everyone, and it isn't always obvious that it isn't. 
>>>> But you could try libgen.io, ICanHazPDF, or other such sources ...
>>>
>>> Or, if you was a science guy, you could join the AAAS and support 
>>> science.
>>
>> Well, support their political propaganda efforts like the climate 
>> change scam, but "kensi" like all libs is only into freeloading.
> 
> Absurd "academic publishing racket" is past its sell-by date
> 
> In the /Observer/, John Naughton unloads both barrels on the "academic 
> publishing racket" in which giant multinational publishers get free, 
> state-subsidized research to publish, use free, state-subsidized labor 
> for peer-review, require assignments of the scholars' copyrights as a 
> condition of publication, then charge astounding sums to the scientists 
> and academics they are "serving" for the right to read the work they're 
> all engaged in producing:
> 
> https://boingboing.net/2012/04/22/absurd-academic-publishing-r.html
> 
> Guess who the real freeloaders are? Yep, Elsevier and friends. Viva la 
> Sci-Hub revolución!
> 
If you expect me to support the "academic publishing racket" you are 
wrong once again. I've been screaming about that scam for years! And 
it's far worse than just a rip-off as seen by the political censoring of 
research papers to toe the current political lines. AAAS is an excellent 
example of that. AIP ain't no slouch either.

I celebrate some of those in foreign countries who have been posting 
these "copyrighted" works on the internet for the true purpose of "Fair 
use" research. Unfortunately Globalists have been applying pressure 
shutting them down even in countries without copyright agreements.

However this does not change the subject from censorship of politically 
incorrect papers by publishers and promotion of politically correct ones 
regardless of their actual scientific merit.

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#696023

On 7/27/2018 12:32 PM, benj wrote:
> On 7/27/2018 5:35 AM, kensi wrote:
>> Guess who the real freeloaders are? Yep, Elsevier and friends. Viva la 
>> Sci-Hub revolución!
>
> If you expect me to support the "academic publishing racket" you are 
> wrong once again.

That's quite the 180 you just did, from yesterday castigating me for 
"piracy" and calling me a "freeloader" -- i.e., expecting *me* to 
support the academic publishing racket.

> I've been screaming about that scam for years! And it's far worse than
> just a rip-off as seen by the political censoring of research papers to
> toe the current political lines. AAAS is an excellent example of that.
> AIP ain't no slouch either.

[citation needed] that there is any censorship going on, beyond the 
widely known fact that what gets published in the major journals of 
economics is biased in favor of papers that support neoliberal and 
right-wing ideology and against anything that would call that ideology 
into question, let alone support socialism. This is why we have the 
Evonomics web site now.

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#696026

On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 06:11:20 -0400, kensi wrote:

> On 7/27/2018 12:32 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 7/27/2018 5:35 AM, kensi wrote:
>>> Guess who the real freeloaders are? Yep, Elsevier and friends. Viva la
>>> Sci-Hub revolución!
>>
>> If you expect me to support the "academic publishing racket" you are
>> wrong once again.
> 
> That's quite the 180 you just did, from yesterday castigating me for
> "piracy" and calling me a "freeloader" -- i.e., expecting *me* to
> support the academic publishing racket.
> 
>> I've been screaming about that scam for years! And it's far worse than
>> just a rip-off as seen by the political censoring of research papers to
>> toe the current political lines. AAAS is an excellent example of that.
>> AIP ain't no slouch either.
> 
> [citation needed] that there is any censorship going on, beyond the
> widely known fact that what gets published in the major journals of
> economics is biased in favor of papers that support neoliberal and
> right-wing ideology and against anything that would call that ideology
> into question, let alone support socialism. This is why we have the
> Evonomics web site now.

[citation needed] that you are anything but an annoyingly persistent 
Koooooooooooooooooooook, Kensi. Oh, and a damned socialist.

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#696030

KenST0MP!si <stAmpYng0NkEnsi@mahil.com> wrote:

> Paul "NerdyBoi" Derbyshire in his "Professor kensi Kensington Fu.D." 
> costume confidently declared:  "The sky is falling!" 
> 
> > On 7/27/2018 12:32 PM, benj wrote:
> >> Paul "NerdyBoi" Derbyshire in his "Professor kensi Kensington Fu.D."
> >> costume confidently declared:  "The sky is falling!" 
> >>> Guess who the real freeloaders are? Yep, Elsevier and friends. Viva la
> >>> Sci-Hub revolución!
> >>
> >> If you expect me to support the "academic publishing racket" you are
> >> wrong once again.
> > 
> > That's quite the 180 you just did, from yesterday castigating me for
> > "piracy" and calling me a "freeloader" -- i.e., expecting *me* to
> > support the academic publishing racket.
> > 
> >> I've been screaming about that scam for years! And it's far worse than
> >> just a rip-off as seen by the political censoring of research papers to
> >> toe the current political lines. AAAS is an excellent example of that.
> >> AIP ain't no slouch either.
> > 
> > [citation needed] that there is any censorship going on, beyond the
> > widely known fact that what gets published in the major journals of
> > economics is biased in favor of papers that support neoliberal and
> > right-wing ideology and against anything that would call that ideology
> > into question, let alone support socialism. This is why we have the
> > Evonomics web site now.
> 
> [citation needed] that you are anything but an annoyingly persistent 
> Koooooooooooooooooooook, Kensi. Oh, and a damned socialist.
>

lol

P. S.  Fuck off, Paul.

-- 
^Ï^.   My pet rock Gordon's word of the day is 'Dweeb'.

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#696037

On 2018-07-28 5:42 AM, Sn!pe wrote:
> KenST0MP!si <stAmpYng0NkEnsi@mahil.com> wrote:
> 
>> Paul "NerdyBoi" Derbyshire in his "Professor kensi Kensington Fu.D."
>> costume confidently declared:  "The sky is falling!"
>>
>>> On 7/27/2018 12:32 PM, benj wrote:
>>>> Paul "NerdyBoi" Derbyshire in his "Professor kensi Kensington Fu.D."
>>>> costume confidently declared:  "The sky is falling!"
>>>>> Guess who the real freeloaders are? Yep, Elsevier and friends. Viva la
>>>>> Sci-Hub revolución!
>>>>
>>>> If you expect me to support the "academic publishing racket" you are
>>>> wrong once again.
>>>
>>> That's quite the 180 you just did, from yesterday castigating me for
>>> "piracy" and calling me a "freeloader" -- i.e., expecting *me* to
>>> support the academic publishing racket.
>>>
>>>> I've been screaming about that scam for years! And it's far worse than
>>>> just a rip-off as seen by the political censoring of research papers to
>>>> toe the current political lines. AAAS is an excellent example of that.
>>>> AIP ain't no slouch either.
>>>
>>> [citation needed] that there is any censorship going on, beyond the
>>> widely known fact that what gets published in the major journals of
>>> economics is biased in favor of papers that support neoliberal and
>>> right-wing ideology and against anything that would call that ideology
>>> into question, let alone support socialism. This is why we have the
>>> Evonomics web site now.
>>
>> [citation needed] that you are anything but an annoyingly persistent
>> Koooooooooooooooooooook, Kensi. Oh, and a damned socialist.
>>
> 
> lol
> 
> P. S.  Fuck off, Paul.
> 
i try to stay impartial too

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