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| Started by | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| First post | 2018-05-12 08:57 -0400 |
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UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-12 08:57 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-12 13:55 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-12 18:55 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 12:03 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-12 15:16 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 15:52 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 19:02 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 19:13 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 16:35 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 20:06 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 17:43 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 21:01 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 20:53 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 11:12 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 18:57 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-14 22:40 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 12:00 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-15 21:59 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-17 06:05 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-20 13:13 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-20 23:54 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-21 09:08 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 06:47 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-26 09:11 +1000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 06:12 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-22 00:27 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-22 07:59 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 06:29 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-23 11:00 +1000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-23 11:17 +1000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 06:36 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 11:11 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-26 08:48 +1000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-26 08:51 +1000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-23 00:22 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-23 14:31 +1000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-23 14:39 +1000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-23 00:50 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-23 15:04 +1000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 06:22 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 12:54 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 12:58 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-12 15:14 -0600
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 19:12 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-12 17:28 -0600
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 16:35 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 23:57 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 10:48 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 19:05 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-13 10:30 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 12:54 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 10:19 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 13:34 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 10:40 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 13:58 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 11:09 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 10:46 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 19:54 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:13 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 17:58 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 15:48 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 18:55 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 16:02 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-14 00:43 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 17:45 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 21:30 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 18:32 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 21:36 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-14 03:43 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 12:53 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 09:48 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 08:56 +1000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 19:20 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 16:25 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-05-13 09:32 +1000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 19:02 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-13 10:33 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:32 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 12:01 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 19:57 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:13 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-14 11:24 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-14 10:46 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 12:58 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 20:19 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:21 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 20:34 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:45 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:49 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:47 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 01:43 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 14:35 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 12:37 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-05-15 20:19 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 19:45 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-12 21:03 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 18:09 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 01:19 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 18:24 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 21:29 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 18:30 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 01:58 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 19:13 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 11:54 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 11:14 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 20:01 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:14 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 19:59 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:14 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:25 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 20:36 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:46 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:49 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 16:19 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-12 21:40 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 02:01 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 19:13 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-12 22:41 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 02:56 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 01:42 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 01:52 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-13 10:37 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:40 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 10:42 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:33 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:12 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-13 10:36 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 12:17 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-14 11:17 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-15 15:17 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-15 22:55 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-15 20:19 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:39 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:11 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 20:06 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:15 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 05:38 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-13 10:37 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-13 12:17 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:35 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:01 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 22:06 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 12:06 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-13 11:57 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-13 11:22 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-14 11:19 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 20:08 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-13 13:15 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-12 22:01 -0500
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-05-13 03:12 +0000
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-05-12 12:29 -0600
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-12 19:05 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 16:09 -0700
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-05-12 21:42 -0400
Re: UN Climate Change Launches First-Ever Annual Report % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-05-12 19:13 -0700
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-13 13:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b96rr5.c4r.17.2@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #685270 |
On 2018-05-13 12:57 PM, Nadegda wrote: > Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! > On Sun, 13 May 2018 12:01:20 -0500, Sergio wrote: > >> On 5/13/2018 11:32 AM, benj wrote: >>> On 5/13/2018 10:33 AM, kensi wrote: >>>> On 5/12/2018 8:02 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>> nope. That movie sucked too. >>>>> take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, >>>>> What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? >>>> >>>> Try making actual sense, and then maybe I could calculate it. >>>> >>>>> how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the >>>>> asteroid ? >>>> >>>> "Tare"? >>> >>> Lefty Libs only do spelling and grammar, SErgio. They know nothing >>> else. >> >> I throw those in to aggravate the engrlish and other non-science >> teachers >> >> >>>>> how do you aim and time a rocket thruster bolted to an asteroid when >>>>> the asteroid is spinning >>>> >>>> Mount it at a pole. Or kill the spin. Or use a gravitational tractor, >>>> for which the spin is irrelevant. Or use a damn clock. If we can make >>>> a solar panel that turns to stay facing the sun we can do this. >>>> >>>>> in 1 or 2 axis ? >>>> >>>> *headdesk* >>>> *headdesk* >>>> *headdesk* >>>> >>>> You fail physics, and mathematics, forever. >>>> >>> Damn, Sergio! Don't you watch any TV or movies? Obviously Earth can be >>> saved with the simple application of a "Tractor beam"! I've personally >>> seen those green beams move asteroids MANY times! You sure don't know >>> your science! >> >> >> HeY! Kalifornia just mandated, SOLAR PANELS ON EVERY HOUSE, so stupid. >> >> they should have done solar farms instead. >> >> Guess they did not want to pay for that, and now soak the homeowner to >> prop up Elon Musk. >> >> Solar mounting must be flat on the roof IAW Kaliforna laws. >> >> loose 50% of solar power because the panels do not track the sun, (a >> solar farm tracks the sun.) >> >> they loose another 50% because they only get morning sun or afternoon >> sun, and must be mounted with a poor angle to the sun, (not 90 degrees) >> >> so from the get go, Kalifornia has doomed their solar power industry, by >> only being able to collect only 25%. >> >> so they blew out their cost analysis, mounting on homes is far more >> expensive than a solar farm, and with the panels poorly orentated the >> cost is 4 times more. >> >> kensi pupa's *headdesk* is simply a way to change the subject, refer to >> emotional no think, rather than discuss the reality of system losses in >> Solar power, because 'she' can't, too girly?, dosen't know it, like >> McGinn discussing Water Vapor, almost. > > No, kensi's *headdesk* is because you two kooks apparently think space is > four-dimensional, despite having both spent enough years living in it to > have learned semi-decent grade-school English. > rerun
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-14 11:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <tShKC.40154$p05.34648@fx28.iad> |
| In reply to | #685229 |
On 5/13/2018 1:01 PM, Sergio wrote: > On 5/13/2018 11:32 AM, benj wrote: >> On 5/13/2018 10:33 AM, kensi wrote: >>> On 5/12/2018 8:02 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>> nope. That movie sucked too. >>>> take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, >>>> What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? >>> >>> Try making actual sense, and then maybe I could calculate it. >>> >>>> how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the >>>> asteroid ? >>> >>> "Tare"? >> >> Lefty Libs only do spelling and grammar, SErgio. They know nothing else. > > I throw those in to aggravate the engrlish and other non-science teachers > >> >>>> how do you aim and time a rocket thruster bolted to an asteroid when the >>>> asteroid is spinning >>> >>> Mount it at a pole. Or kill the spin. Or use a gravitational tractor, >>> for which the spin is irrelevant. Or use a damn clock. If we can make >>> a solar panel that turns to stay facing the sun we can do this. >>> >>>> in 1 or 2 axis ? >>> >>> *headdesk* >>> *headdesk* >>> *headdesk* >>> >>> You fail physics, and mathematics, forever. >>> >> Damn, Sergio! Don't you watch any TV or movies? Obviously Earth can be >> saved with the simple application of a "Tractor beam"! I've personally >> seen those green beams move asteroids MANY times! You sure don't know >> your science! > > > HeY! Kalifornia just mandated, SOLAR PANELS ON EVERY HOUSE, so stupid. > > they should have done solar farms instead. > > Guess they did not want to pay for that, and now soak the homeowner to > prop up Elon Musk. > > Solar mounting must be flat on the roof IAW Kaliforna laws. > > loose 50% of solar power because the panels do not track the sun, (a > solar farm tracks the sun.) > > they loose another 50% because they only get morning sun or afternoon > sun, and must be mounted with a poor angle to the sun, (not 90 degrees) > > so from the get go, Kalifornia has doomed their solar power industry, by > only being able to collect only 25%. > > so they blew out their cost analysis, mounting on homes is far more > expensive than a solar farm, and with the panels poorly orentated the > cost is 4 times more. > > kensi pupa's *headdesk* is simply a way to change the subject, refer to > emotional no think, rather than discuss the reality of system losses in > Solar power, because 'she' can't, too girly?, dosen't know it, like > McGinn discussing Water Vapor, almost. Wait a minute. Nothing is like McGinn discussing "cold steam"...
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-14 10:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pdcb00$uo7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #685408 |
On 5/14/2018 10:24 AM, benj wrote: > On 5/13/2018 1:01 PM, Sergio wrote: >> On 5/13/2018 11:32 AM, benj wrote: >>> On 5/13/2018 10:33 AM, kensi wrote: >>>> On 5/12/2018 8:02 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>> nope. That movie sucked too. >>>>> take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, >>>>> What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? >>>> >>>> Try making actual sense, and then maybe I could calculate it. >>>> >>>>> how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the >>>>> asteroid ? >>>> >>>> "Tare"? >>> >>> Lefty Libs only do spelling and grammar, SErgio. They know nothing else. >> >> I throw those in to aggravate the engrlish and other non-science teachers >> >>> >>>>> how do you aim and time a rocket thruster bolted to an asteroid >>>>> when the >>>>> asteroid is spinning >>>> >>>> Mount it at a pole. Or kill the spin. Or use a gravitational tractor, >>>> for which the spin is irrelevant. Or use a damn clock. If we can make >>>> a solar panel that turns to stay facing the sun we can do this. >>>> >>>>> in 1 or 2 axis ? >>>> >>>> *headdesk* >>>> *headdesk* >>>> *headdesk* >>>> >>>> You fail physics, and mathematics, forever. >>>> >>> Damn, Sergio! Don't you watch any TV or movies? Obviously Earth can be >>> saved with the simple application of a "Tractor beam"! I've personally >>> seen those green beams move asteroids MANY times! You sure don't know >>> your science! >> >> >> HeY! Kalifornia just mandated, SOLAR PANELS ON EVERY HOUSE, so stupid. >> >> they should have done solar farms instead. >> >> Guess they did not want to pay for that, and now soak the homeowner to >> prop up Elon Musk. >> >> Solar mounting must be flat on the roof IAW Kaliforna laws. >> >> loose 50% of solar power because the panels do not track the sun, (a >> solar farm tracks the sun.) >> >> they loose another 50% because they only get morning sun or afternoon >> sun, and must be mounted with a poor angle to the sun, (not 90 degrees) >> >> so from the get go, Kalifornia has doomed their solar power industry, by >> only being able to collect only 25%. >> >> so they blew out their cost analysis, mounting on homes is far more >> expensive than a solar farm, and with the panels poorly orentated the >> cost is 4 times more. >> >> kensi pupa's *headdesk* is simply a way to change the subject, refer to >> emotional no think, rather than discuss the reality of system losses in >> Solar power, because 'she' can't, too girly?, dosen't know it, like >> McGinn discussing Water Vapor, almost. > > Wait a minute. Nothing is like McGinn discussing "cold steam"... > that is why I put 'almost' on it, However, after comicality review, I will entirely withdraw the "McGinn" comment entirely as of today 12 noon, it wasn't in the same order of magnitude of aggrandized scientific dysfunctionallity.
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| From | Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-13 12:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.356238bc7c5d13329939bd@news.altopia.com> |
| In reply to | #685200 |
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate! In article <pd9icf$94k$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01 @gmail.nospam.invalid says... > > On 5/12/2018 8:02 PM, Sergio wrote: > > nope. That movie sucked too. > > take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, > > What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? > > Try making actual sense, and then maybe I could calculate it. > > > how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the asteroid ? > > "Tare"? Maybe Dr. Kensington thinks the asteroid comes in a container, and she wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the container. All asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in containers. > > how do you aim and time a rocket thruster bolted to an asteroid when the > > asteroid is spinning > > Mount it at a pole. Or kill the spin. Or use a gravitational tractor, > for which the spin is irrelevant. Or use a damn clock. If we can make a > solar panel that turns to stay facing the sun we can do this. > > > in 1 or 2 axis ? > > *headdesk* > *headdesk* > *headdesk* > > You fail physics, and mathematics, forever. -- Checkmate ® Author, Humorist, Cynic Philosopher, Humanitarian Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars Copyright © 2018 all rights reserved In loving memory of The Battle Kitten May 2010-February 12, 2017 "There are many here among us, who feel that life is but a joke." "I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as kensi." -Nadegda Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me>
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| From | Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-13 20:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pda6k2$jvq$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685271 |
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! On Sun, 13 May 2018 12:58:26 -0700, Checkmate wrote: > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by > Checkmate! In article <pd9icf$94k$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01 > @gmail.nospam.invalid says... > > > >> On 5/12/2018 8:02 PM, Sergio wrote: >> > nope. That movie sucked too. >> > take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, >> > What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? >> >> Try making actual sense, and then maybe I could calculate it. >> >> > how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the >> > asteroid ? >> >> "Tare"? > > Maybe Dr. Kensington thinks the asteroid comes in a container, and she > wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the container. All > asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in containers. You misspelled "Maybe Sergio thinks the asteroid comes in a container, and she wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the container. All asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in containers." HTH. -- FNVWe Nadegda Fakey couldn't teach a monkey to eat a banana, much less answer a direct question posed to him. -- Fakey's Dogwhistle Holder
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-13 13:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b96s8s.c4r.17.11@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #685287 |
On 2018-05-13 1:19 PM, Nadegda wrote: > Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! > On Sun, 13 May 2018 12:58:26 -0700, Checkmate wrote: > >> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >> Checkmate! In article <pd9icf$94k$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01 >> @gmail.nospam.invalid says... >> >> >> >>> On 5/12/2018 8:02 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>> nope. That movie sucked too. >>>> take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, >>>> What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? >>> >>> Try making actual sense, and then maybe I could calculate it. >>> >>>> how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the >>>> asteroid ? >>> >>> "Tare"? >> >> Maybe Dr. Kensington thinks the asteroid comes in a container, and she >> wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the container. All >> asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in containers. > > You misspelled "Maybe Sergio thinks the asteroid comes in a container, and > she wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the container. All > asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in containers." HTH. > rerun
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| From | Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-13 20:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pda7h5$jvq$12@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685288 |
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! On Sun, 13 May 2018 13:21:15 -0700, % wrote: > On 2018-05-13 1:19 PM, Nadegda wrote: >> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, >> melt! On Sun, 13 May 2018 12:58:26 -0700, Checkmate wrote: >> >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts >>> by Checkmate! In article <pd9icf$94k$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01 >>> @gmail.nospam.invalid says... >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 5/12/2018 8:02 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>> nope. That movie sucked too. >>>>> take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, >>>>> What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? >>>> >>>> Try making actual sense, and then maybe I could calculate it. >>>> >>>>> how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the >>>>> asteroid ? >>>> >>>> "Tare"? >>> >>> Maybe Dr. Kensington thinks the asteroid comes in a container, and she >>> wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the container. All >>> asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in containers. >> >> You misspelled "Maybe Sergio thinks the asteroid comes in a container, >> and she wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the >> container. All asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in >> containers." HTH. > > rer<PLONK!> Enough reruns out of you. -- FNVWe Nadegda Fakey couldn't teach a monkey to eat a banana, much less answer a direct question posed to him. -- Fakey's Dogwhistle Holder
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| From | Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-13 13:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.356243dee7bc5df89939c7@news.altopia.com> |
| In reply to | #685291 |
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate! In article <pda7h5$jvq$12@dont-email.me>, nad318b404 @gmail.invalid says... > > Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! > On Sun, 13 May 2018 13:21:15 -0700, % wrote: > > > On 2018-05-13 1:19 PM, Nadegda wrote: > >> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, > >> melt! On Sun, 13 May 2018 12:58:26 -0700, Checkmate wrote: > >> > >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts > >>> by Checkmate! In article <pd9icf$94k$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01 > >>> @gmail.nospam.invalid says... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 5/12/2018 8:02 PM, Sergio wrote: > >>>>> nope. That movie sucked too. > >>>>> take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, > >>>>> What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? > >>>> > >>>> Try making actual sense, and then maybe I could calculate it. > >>>> > >>>>> how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the > >>>>> asteroid ? > >>>> > >>>> "Tare"? > >>> > >>> Maybe Dr. Kensington thinks the asteroid comes in a container, and she > >>> wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the container. All > >>> asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in containers. > >> > >> You misspelled "Maybe Sergio thinks the asteroid comes in a container, > >> and she wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the > >> container. All asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in > >> containers." HTH. > > > > rer<PLONK!> > > Enough reruns out of you. First smart thing you've done. -- Checkmate ® Author, Humorist, Cynic Philosopher, Humanitarian Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars Copyright © 2018 all rights reserved In loving memory of The Battle Kitten May 2010-February 12, 2017 "There are many here among us, who feel that life is but a joke." "I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as kensi." -Nadegda Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me>
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-13 13:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b96ttd.sbh.19.5@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #685296 |
On 2018-05-13 1:45 PM, Checkmate wrote: > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by > Checkmate! In article <pda7h5$jvq$12@dont-email.me>, nad318b404 > @gmail.invalid says... > > >> >> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! >> On Sun, 13 May 2018 13:21:15 -0700, % wrote: >> >>> On 2018-05-13 1:19 PM, Nadegda wrote: >>>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, >>>> melt! On Sun, 13 May 2018 12:58:26 -0700, Checkmate wrote: >>>> >>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts >>>>> by Checkmate! In article <pd9icf$94k$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01 >>>>> @gmail.nospam.invalid says... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:02 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>> nope. That movie sucked too. >>>>>>> take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, >>>>>>> What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Try making actual sense, and then maybe I could calculate it. >>>>>> >>>>>>> how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the >>>>>>> asteroid ? >>>>>> >>>>>> "Tare"? >>>>> >>>>> Maybe Dr. Kensington thinks the asteroid comes in a container, and she >>>>> wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the container. All >>>>> asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in containers. >>>> >>>> You misspelled "Maybe Sergio thinks the asteroid comes in a container, >>>> and she wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the >>>> container. All asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in >>>> containers." HTH. >>> >>> rer<PLONK!> >> >> Enough reruns out of you. > > First smart thing you've done. > rerun
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-13 13:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b96tpj.sbh.19.3@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #685291 |
On 2018-05-13 1:34 PM, Nadegda wrote: > Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! > On Sun, 13 May 2018 13:21:15 -0700, % wrote: > >> On 2018-05-13 1:19 PM, Nadegda wrote: >>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, >>> melt! On Sun, 13 May 2018 12:58:26 -0700, Checkmate wrote: >>> >>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts >>>> by Checkmate! In article <pd9icf$94k$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01 >>>> @gmail.nospam.invalid says... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 5/12/2018 8:02 PM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>> nope. That movie sucked too. >>>>>> take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, >>>>>> What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? >>>>> >>>>> Try making actual sense, and then maybe I could calculate it. >>>>> >>>>>> how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the >>>>>> asteroid ? >>>>> >>>>> "Tare"? >>>> >>>> Maybe Dr. Kensington thinks the asteroid comes in a container, and she >>>> wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the container. All >>>> asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in containers. >>> >>> You misspelled "Maybe Sergio thinks the asteroid comes in a container, >>> and she wishes to weigh the asteroid, minus the weight of the >>> container. All asstrophysicists routinely do this with asteroids in >>> containers." HTH. >> >> rer<PLONK!> > > Enough reruns out of you. > its simple to fix , stop rerunning
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-15 01:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pddtmm$bmf$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685141 |
"Sergio" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message news:pd7vbg$1sb6$1@gioia.aioe.org... > On 5/12/2018 6:32 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 13/05/2018 9:20 AM, benj wrote: >>> On 5/12/2018 6:56 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 13/05/2018 3:55 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 12 May 2018 08:57:03 -0400, kensi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> UN Climate Change today launched its first-ever Annual Report, >>>>> >>>>> Maybe it will also be its last? >>>> >>>> **Unlikely. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> laying >>>>>> out the key 2017 achievements and pointing to the future of the >>>>>> climate >>>>>> change process. "Climate Change is the single biggest threat to life, >>>>>> security and prosperity on Earth," >>>>> >>>>> That's deluded. >>>> >>>> **Well, no, it isn't. It's quite factual. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> It pales in comparison to the threat from a big ass asteroid. >>>>> >>>> >>>> **Perhaps. >>>> * When do you expect a "big ass asteroid" to hit? >>>> * What can we do to prevent a "big ass asteroid" from hitting Earth? >>>> * Given the possibility that a "big ass asteroid" may hit us sometime >>>> in the (unspecified) future, should we plan to find a way to deal >>>> with that eventuality? >>>> * Given the fact that global warming is occurring right now and it's >>>> effects are being felt right now, do you think we should deal with >>>> the problem now? >>>> * Do you think it is possible that we can (try to) deal with global >>>> warming and a "big ass asteroid" simultaneously? Or can 7.5 billion >>>> humans only deal with one problem at a time? >>>> >>>> BTW: NASA and other organisations already track "big ass asteroids" >>>> so we can prepare for such an event. >>>> >>>> >>> Prepare? Oh yeah, I saw the movie. Just send our heroes and blow it up! >> >> **Movies are not necessarily real life. The whole idea of tracking >> dangerous asteroids, is so that we may have a chance of dealing with the >> asteroid and/or it's ramifications. If, for instance, we have 10 years' >> warning of a "big ass asteroid", then it MAY be possible to nudge it >> into a different orbit. Maybe. > > nope. That movie sucked too. > take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, > What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? Depends on the size of X and the force being applied. > how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the asteroid > ? Depends on the nature of the asteroid and whether tearing it apart would make it small enough for the atmosphere to handle should any of the pieces impact. > how do you aim and time a rocket thruster bolted to an asteroid when the > asteroid is spinning in 1 or 2 axis ? computer timed firing circuit. If you know the tumble and the exact position and orientation of your rocket thruster you can pick the exact moment in time in which the resultant net application of force is in the precise direction you want. More realistically though, you would pick a reasonable point in time and then calibrate the position and direction to match what you need them to be at that moment in time to get the desired result. > > when you know that, you can tell Bruce Willis to go fix it. No, more likely it would be a robotic probe since a manned probe would necessarily have to be bigger, heavier and thus slower. Both to assemble and to get on target. In space timing can be important. The longer a vector has to work, and when that vector is applied can produce massively different results. In the case of avoiding an impact pretty much any vector will result in a miss if the induced vector has enough time in which to act. > from your nasa link; > > "Deflecting an asteroid that is on an impact course with Earth requires > changing the velocity of the object by less than an inch per second > years in advance of the predicted impact. The two most promising > techniques that NASA is investigating are the kinetic impactor (hitting > an asteroid with an object to slightly slow it down) and the gravity > tractor (gravitationally tugging on an asteroid by station-keeping a > large mass near it)." > > so who is going to put that fat ass tugger up there? Elon Musk can send > 20,000 Teslas up in a bunch.... > > >> >>> >>> Except of course that was lefty Hollywood Lib "science". If you blow >>> it up the center of mass of the debris still hits the earth. Maybe all >>> the "wind" from global warming will deflect it at the last minute (in >>> Hollywood the "save" is always at the last minute). >>> >>> Basically all you really can do is put your head between your knees >>> and kiss your ass goodbye. >> >> **Incorrect: >> >> https://www.nasa.gov/planetarydefense/faq >> >> >
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-15 14:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pdfcqg$92h$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #685536 |
On 5/15/2018 12:43 AM, Scout wrote: > > > "Sergio" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message > news:pd7vbg$1sb6$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> On 5/12/2018 6:32 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 13/05/2018 9:20 AM, benj wrote: >>>> On 5/12/2018 6:56 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:55 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 12 May 2018 08:57:03 -0400, kensi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> UN Climate Change today launched its first-ever Annual Report, >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe it will also be its last? >>>>> >>>>> **Unlikely. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> laying >>>>>>> out the key 2017 achievements and pointing to the future of the >>>>>>> climate >>>>>>> change process. "Climate Change is the single biggest threat to >>>>>>> life, >>>>>>> security and prosperity on Earth," >>>>>> >>>>>> That's deluded. >>>>> >>>>> **Well, no, it isn't. It's quite factual. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It pales in comparison to the threat from a big ass asteroid. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **Perhaps. >>>>> * When do you expect a "big ass asteroid" to hit? >>>>> * What can we do to prevent a "big ass asteroid" from hitting Earth? >>>>> * Given the possibility that a "big ass asteroid" may hit us sometime >>>>> in the (unspecified) future, should we plan to find a way to deal >>>>> with that eventuality? >>>>> * Given the fact that global warming is occurring right now and it's >>>>> effects are being felt right now, do you think we should deal with >>>>> the problem now? >>>>> * Do you think it is possible that we can (try to) deal with global >>>>> warming and a "big ass asteroid" simultaneously? Or can 7.5 billion >>>>> humans only deal with one problem at a time? >>>>> >>>>> BTW: NASA and other organisations already track "big ass asteroids" >>>>> so we can prepare for such an event. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Prepare? Oh yeah, I saw the movie. Just send our heroes and blow it up! >>> >>> **Movies are not necessarily real life. The whole idea of tracking >>> dangerous asteroids, is so that we may have a chance of dealing with the >>> asteroid and/or it's ramifications. If, for instance, we have 10 years' >>> warning of a "big ass asteroid", then it MAY be possible to nudge it >>> into a different orbit. Maybe. >> >> nope. That movie sucked too. >> take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, >> What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? > > Depends on the size of X and the force being applied. > for x = 1 degree, the velocity normal to the path to the earth should be tan function which for small angles you can use the approximation, tan(A)= A or 0.0175 in radians so the velocity vector normal to path is 1.75% of 20,000 mph = 350 mph so how much energy does it take to get a 10,000 # rock to move from 0 to 350 mph ? convert units (ez) 4,535.9kg times 156.5 m/s = 709,868 kilogram meters per second (kg*m/s) applied to the asteroid normal to earth path seems like a tough call for a rocket engine to do that, shoot out 450 kg at 1,500 m/s ? > >> how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the >> asteroid ? > > Depends on the nature of the asteroid and whether tearing it apart would > make it small enough for the atmosphere to handle should any of the > pieces impact. all iron, mostly iron, part rock and iron, mostly rock, Nasa would know somewhere how much they are held together > >> how do you aim and time a rocket thruster bolted to an asteroid when the >> asteroid is spinning in 1 or 2 axis ? > > computer timed firing circuit. If you know the tumble and the exact > position and orientation of your rocket thruster you can pick the exact > moment in time in which the resultant net application of force is in the > precise direction you want. More realistically though, you would pick a > reasonable point in time and then calibrate the position and direction > to match what you need them to be at that moment in time to get the > desired result. > that is doable, need a good frame reference to stars or what is visable, or a good nav system from the ship that brought it over. > >> >> when you know that, you can tell Bruce Willis to go fix it. > > No, more likely it would be a robotic probe since a manned probe would > necessarily have to be bigger, heavier and thus slower. Both to assemble > and to get on target. In space timing can be important. The longer a > vector has to work, and when that vector is applied can produce > massively different results. In the case of avoiding an impact pretty > much any vector will result in a miss if the induced vector has enough > time in which to act. > need excellent robotics >> from your nasa link; >> >> "Deflecting an asteroid that is on an impact course with Earth requires >> changing the velocity of the object by less than an inch per second >> years in advance of the predicted impact. The two most promising >> techniques that NASA is investigating are the kinetic impactor (hitting >> an asteroid with an object to slightly slow it down) and the gravity >> tractor (gravitationally tugging on an asteroid by station-keeping a >> large mass near it)." kinetic impactor is ballparked above, but one has to fly it up there, then change the velocity vector of the impactor to normal of earth path, like fire it up towards it to the right side, then have it turn hard left and fire rockets home in. Impactor could bust it up if the rocks are just hanging around each other the large mass tugging on it, how large ? what keeps it close to the asteroid... (has to be in same orbit) and then your tugger becomes an object that is threat to earth >> >> so who is going to put that fat ass tugger up there? Elon Musk can send >> 20,000 Teslas up in a bunch.... >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> Except of course that was lefty Hollywood Lib "science". If you blow >>>> it up the center of mass of the debris still hits the earth. Maybe all >>>> the "wind" from global warming will deflect it at the last minute (in >>>> Hollywood the "save" is always at the last minute). >>>> >>>> Basically all you really can do is put your head between your knees >>>> and kiss your ass goodbye. >>> >>> **Incorrect: >>> >>> https://www.nasa.gov/planetarydefense/faq >>> good link, mostly observation, no real solutions yet
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-15 12:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b9c2fh.n8u.17.3@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #685620 |
On 2018-05-15 12:35 PM, Sergio wrote: > On 5/15/2018 12:43 AM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Sergio" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:pd7vbg$1sb6$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> On 5/12/2018 6:32 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 13/05/2018 9:20 AM, benj wrote: >>>>> On 5/12/2018 6:56 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:55 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 12 May 2018 08:57:03 -0400, kensi wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> UN Climate Change today launched its first-ever Annual Report, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe it will also be its last? >>>>>> >>>>>> **Unlikely. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> laying >>>>>>>> out the key 2017 achievements and pointing to the future of the >>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>> change process. "Climate Change is the single biggest threat to >>>>>>>> life, >>>>>>>> security and prosperity on Earth," >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's deluded. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Well, no, it isn't. It's quite factual. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It pales in comparison to the threat from a big ass asteroid. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **Perhaps. >>>>>> * When do you expect a "big ass asteroid" to hit? >>>>>> * What can we do to prevent a "big ass asteroid" from hitting Earth? >>>>>> * Given the possibility that a "big ass asteroid" may hit us sometime >>>>>> in the (unspecified) future, should we plan to find a way to deal >>>>>> with that eventuality? >>>>>> * Given the fact that global warming is occurring right now and it's >>>>>> effects are being felt right now, do you think we should deal with >>>>>> the problem now? >>>>>> * Do you think it is possible that we can (try to) deal with global >>>>>> warming and a "big ass asteroid" simultaneously? Or can 7.5 billion >>>>>> humans only deal with one problem at a time? >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW: NASA and other organisations already track "big ass asteroids" >>>>>> so we can prepare for such an event. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Prepare? Oh yeah, I saw the movie. Just send our heroes and blow it up! >>>> >>>> **Movies are not necessarily real life. The whole idea of tracking >>>> dangerous asteroids, is so that we may have a chance of dealing with the >>>> asteroid and/or it's ramifications. If, for instance, we have 10 years' >>>> warning of a "big ass asteroid", then it MAY be possible to nudge it >>>> into a different orbit. Maybe. >>> >>> nope. That movie sucked too. >>> take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, >>> What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? >> >> Depends on the size of X and the force being applied. >> > > for x = 1 degree, the velocity normal to the path to the earth should be > tan function which for small angles you can use the approximation, > tan(A)= A or 0.0175 in radians > > so the velocity vector normal to path is 1.75% of 20,000 mph = 350 mph > > so how much energy does it take to get a 10,000 # rock to move from 0 to > 350 mph ? > > convert units (ez) 4,535.9kg times 156.5 m/s = 709,868 kilogram > meters per second (kg*m/s) applied to the asteroid normal to earth path > > seems like a tough call for a rocket engine to do that, shoot out 450 kg > at 1,500 m/s ? > >> >>> how slowly must the force be applied so as not to tare apart the >>> asteroid ? >> >> Depends on the nature of the asteroid and whether tearing it apart would >> make it small enough for the atmosphere to handle should any of the >> pieces impact. > > all iron, mostly iron, part rock and iron, mostly rock, > Nasa would know somewhere how much they are held together > >> >>> how do you aim and time a rocket thruster bolted to an asteroid when the >>> asteroid is spinning in 1 or 2 axis ? >> >> computer timed firing circuit. If you know the tumble and the exact >> position and orientation of your rocket thruster you can pick the exact >> moment in time in which the resultant net application of force is in the >> precise direction you want. More realistically though, you would pick a >> reasonable point in time and then calibrate the position and direction >> to match what you need them to be at that moment in time to get the >> desired result. >> > > that is doable, need a good frame reference to stars or what is visable, > or a good nav system from the ship that brought it over. > >> >>> >>> when you know that, you can tell Bruce Willis to go fix it. >> >> No, more likely it would be a robotic probe since a manned probe would >> necessarily have to be bigger, heavier and thus slower. Both to assemble >> and to get on target. In space timing can be important. The longer a >> vector has to work, and when that vector is applied can produce >> massively different results. In the case of avoiding an impact pretty >> much any vector will result in a miss if the induced vector has enough >> time in which to act. >> > > need excellent robotics > > >>> from your nasa link; >>> >>> "Deflecting an asteroid that is on an impact course with Earth requires >>> changing the velocity of the object by less than an inch per second >>> years in advance of the predicted impact. The two most promising >>> techniques that NASA is investigating are the kinetic impactor (hitting >>> an asteroid with an object to slightly slow it down) and the gravity >>> tractor (gravitationally tugging on an asteroid by station-keeping a >>> large mass near it)." > > kinetic impactor is ballparked above, but one has to fly it up there, > then change the velocity vector of the impactor to normal of earth path, > > like fire it up towards it to the right side, then have it turn hard > left and fire rockets home in. > > Impactor could bust it up if the rocks are just hanging around each other > > the large mass tugging on it, how large ? what keeps it close to the > asteroid... (has to be in same orbit) and then your tugger becomes an > object that is threat to earth > >>> >>> so who is going to put that fat ass tugger up there? Elon Musk can send >>> 20,000 Teslas up in a bunch.... >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Except of course that was lefty Hollywood Lib "science". If you blow >>>>> it up the center of mass of the debris still hits the earth. Maybe all >>>>> the "wind" from global warming will deflect it at the last minute (in >>>>> Hollywood the "save" is always at the last minute). >>>>> >>>>> Basically all you really can do is put your head between your knees >>>>> and kiss your ass goodbye. >>>> >>>> **Incorrect: >>>> >>>> https://www.nasa.gov/planetarydefense/faq >>>> > > good link, mostly observation, no real solutions yet > hey look , it's gerg
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-15 20:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pdftg8$1p5$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685620 |
"Sergio" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message news:pdfcqg$92h$1@gioia.aioe.org... > On 5/15/2018 12:43 AM, Scout wrote: >> >> >> "Sergio" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:pd7vbg$1sb6$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>> On 5/12/2018 6:32 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 13/05/2018 9:20 AM, benj wrote: >>>>> On 5/12/2018 6:56 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:55 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 12 May 2018 08:57:03 -0400, kensi wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> UN Climate Change today launched its first-ever Annual Report, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe it will also be its last? >>>>>> >>>>>> **Unlikely. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> laying >>>>>>>> out the key 2017 achievements and pointing to the future of the >>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>> change process. "Climate Change is the single biggest threat to >>>>>>>> life, >>>>>>>> security and prosperity on Earth," >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's deluded. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Well, no, it isn't. It's quite factual. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It pales in comparison to the threat from a big ass asteroid. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **Perhaps. >>>>>> * When do you expect a "big ass asteroid" to hit? >>>>>> * What can we do to prevent a "big ass asteroid" from hitting Earth? >>>>>> * Given the possibility that a "big ass asteroid" may hit us sometime >>>>>> in the (unspecified) future, should we plan to find a way to deal >>>>>> with that eventuality? >>>>>> * Given the fact that global warming is occurring right now and it's >>>>>> effects are being felt right now, do you think we should deal with >>>>>> the problem now? >>>>>> * Do you think it is possible that we can (try to) deal with global >>>>>> warming and a "big ass asteroid" simultaneously? Or can 7.5 billion >>>>>> humans only deal with one problem at a time? >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW: NASA and other organisations already track "big ass asteroids" >>>>>> so we can prepare for such an event. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Prepare? Oh yeah, I saw the movie. Just send our heroes and blow it >>>>> up! >>>> >>>> **Movies are not necessarily real life. The whole idea of tracking >>>> dangerous asteroids, is so that we may have a chance of dealing with >>>> the >>>> asteroid and/or it's ramifications. If, for instance, we have 10 years' >>>> warning of a "big ass asteroid", then it MAY be possible to nudge it >>>> into a different orbit. Maybe. >>> >>> nope. That movie sucked too. >>> take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, >>> What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? >> >> Depends on the size of X and the force being applied. >> > > for x = 1 degree, the velocity normal to the path to the earth should be > tan function which for small angles you can use the approximation, > tan(A)= A or 0.0175 in radians > > so the velocity vector normal to path is 1.75% of 20,000 mph = 350 mph Except we're talking orbital mechanics here not a single body problem. You can speed, up slow down, side vector or some combination of these. All of these will produce a miss given the vector change has enough time to operate. After all, when you're talking MILLIONS OF MILES....it doesn't take much of a change to change a hit into a miss.
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-15 19:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pdfuv1$15rj$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #685688 |
On 5/15/2018 7:19 PM, Scout wrote: > > > "Sergio" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message > news:pdfcqg$92h$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> On 5/15/2018 12:43 AM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Sergio" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message >>> news:pd7vbg$1sb6$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>> On 5/12/2018 6:32 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 13/05/2018 9:20 AM, benj wrote: >>>>>> On 5/12/2018 6:56 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> On 13/05/2018 3:55 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 May 2018 08:57:03 -0400, kensi wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> UN Climate Change today launched its first-ever Annual Report, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe it will also be its last? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Unlikely. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> laying >>>>>>>>> out the key 2017 achievements and pointing to the future of the >>>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>>> change process. "Climate Change is the single biggest threat to >>>>>>>>> life, >>>>>>>>> security and prosperity on Earth," >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's deluded. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Well, no, it isn't. It's quite factual. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It pales in comparison to the threat from a big ass asteroid. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Perhaps. >>>>>>> * When do you expect a "big ass asteroid" to hit? >>>>>>> * What can we do to prevent a "big ass asteroid" from hitting Earth? >>>>>>> * Given the possibility that a "big ass asteroid" may hit us >>>>>>> sometime >>>>>>> in the (unspecified) future, should we plan to find a way to deal >>>>>>> with that eventuality? >>>>>>> * Given the fact that global warming is occurring right now and it's >>>>>>> effects are being felt right now, do you think we should deal with >>>>>>> the problem now? >>>>>>> * Do you think it is possible that we can (try to) deal with global >>>>>>> warming and a "big ass asteroid" simultaneously? Or can 7.5 billion >>>>>>> humans only deal with one problem at a time? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BTW: NASA and other organisations already track "big ass asteroids" >>>>>>> so we can prepare for such an event. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Prepare? Oh yeah, I saw the movie. Just send our heroes and blow >>>>>> it up! >>>>> >>>>> **Movies are not necessarily real life. The whole idea of tracking >>>>> dangerous asteroids, is so that we may have a chance of dealing >>>>> with the >>>>> asteroid and/or it's ramifications. If, for instance, we have 10 >>>>> years' >>>>> warning of a "big ass asteroid", then it MAY be possible to nudge it >>>>> into a different orbit. Maybe. >>>> >>>> nope. That movie sucked too. >>>> take a 10,000 # asteroid moving at 20,000 mph, >>>> What is the force needed to change its direction by x degrees ? >>> >>> Depends on the size of X and the force being applied. >>> >> >> for x = 1 degree, the velocity normal to the path to the earth should be >> tan function which for small angles you can use the approximation, >> tan(A)= A or 0.0175 in radians >> >> so the velocity vector normal to path is 1.75% of 20,000 mph = 350 mph > > Except we're talking orbital mechanics here not a single body problem. > You can speed, up slow down, side vector or some combination of these. > All of these will produce a miss given the vector change has enough time > to operate. After all, when you're talking MILLIONS OF MILES....it > doesn't take much of a change to change a hit into a miss. > > yea, just chose the 1 degree to show the math, it scales if 1/10 of a degree, then 35 mph, or 1/100 of a degree then 3.5 mph and it is the angle subtended from the disk of the earth back to the asteroid, and if millions of miles away, that angle is very small, (same function I think, tan (diameter of earth/distance away from earth), and since angle is so small, can use the linear approximation again) 4000 mi/1,000,000 miles => .004 radians very small angle. this would do much better on a graph...
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-12 21:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <km3ffdp2ujiscrqkpofoldf57pj0l9cu2u@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #685122 |
On Sun, 13 May 2018 08:56:29 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >On 13/05/2018 3:55 AM, Wally W. wrote: >> On Sat, 12 May 2018 08:57:03 -0400, kensi wrote: >> >>> UN Climate Change today launched its first-ever Annual Report, >> >> Maybe it will also be its last? > >**Unlikely. > >> >> >>> laying >>> out the key 2017 achievements and pointing to the future of the climate >>> change process. "Climate Change is the single biggest threat to life, >>> security and prosperity on Earth," >> >> That's deluded. > >**Well, no, it isn't. It's quite factual. It is ludicrous. There are many fast-acting threats "to life, security and prosperity on Earth," including: - Nuclear war - Pandemics - Supervolcanoes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxycc9MPhZU SUPERVOLCANO! 7 Supervolcanoes That Threaten The Future of Humanity >> It pales in comparison to the threat from a big ass asteroid. >> > >**Perhaps. >* When do you expect a "big ass asteroid" to hit? >* What can we do to prevent a "big ass asteroid" from hitting Earth? Nothing if we keep wasting money on "fighting" climate change. >* Given the possibility that a "big ass asteroid" may hit us sometime in >the (unspecified) future, should we plan to find a way to deal with that >eventuality? Yes. >* Given the fact that global warming is occurring right now So what? It is it is a religious belief, not a "given fact," that global warming is "bad." >and it's >effects are being felt right now, Woo hoo. Way better than the Little Ice Age. >do you think we should deal with the >problem now? What "problem?" >* Do you think it is possible that we can (try to) deal with global >warming and a "big ass asteroid" simultaneously? Or can 7.5 billion >humans only deal with one problem at a time? It is not necessary to "(try to) deal with global warming." It is a fool's errand. We can (try to) deal with a "big ass asteroid" and some other real problem simultaneously if people with the purse strings will ignore the hysterical shrieking from your comrades about a non-problem. >BTW: NASA and other organisations already track "big ass asteroids" so >we can prepare for such an event. Knowing the "big one" is coming and being "prepared" are different things. We won't be "prepared" unless we quit pissing money down the AGW rathole.
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-12 18:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b94opa.fat.17.2@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #685155 |
On 2018-05-12 6:03 PM, Wally W. wrote: > On Sun, 13 May 2018 08:56:29 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: > >> On 13/05/2018 3:55 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>> On Sat, 12 May 2018 08:57:03 -0400, kensi wrote: >>> >>>> UN Climate Change today launched its first-ever Annual Report, >>> >>> Maybe it will also be its last? >> >> **Unlikely. >> >>> >>> >>>> laying >>>> out the key 2017 achievements and pointing to the future of the climate >>>> change process. "Climate Change is the single biggest threat to life, >>>> security and prosperity on Earth," >>> >>> That's deluded. >> >> **Well, no, it isn't. It's quite factual. > > It is ludicrous. > > There are many fast-acting threats "to life, security and prosperity > on Earth," including: > - Nuclear war > - Pandemics > - Supervolcanoes > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxycc9MPhZU > SUPERVOLCANO! 7 Supervolcanoes That Threaten The Future of Humanity > > >>> It pales in comparison to the threat from a big ass asteroid. >>> >> >> **Perhaps. >> * When do you expect a "big ass asteroid" to hit? >> * What can we do to prevent a "big ass asteroid" from hitting Earth? > > Nothing if we keep wasting money on "fighting" climate change. > > >> * Given the possibility that a "big ass asteroid" may hit us sometime in >> the (unspecified) future, should we plan to find a way to deal with that >> eventuality? > > Yes. > >> * Given the fact that global warming is occurring right now > > So what? > > It is it is a religious belief, not a "given fact," that global > warming is "bad." > > >> and it's >> effects are being felt right now, > > Woo hoo. Way better than the Little Ice Age. > >> do you think we should deal with the >> problem now? > > What "problem?" > > >> * Do you think it is possible that we can (try to) deal with global >> warming and a "big ass asteroid" simultaneously? Or can 7.5 billion >> humans only deal with one problem at a time? > > It is not necessary to "(try to) deal with global warming." > > It is a fool's errand. > > We can (try to) deal with a "big ass asteroid" and some other real > problem simultaneously if people with the purse strings will ignore > the hysterical shrieking from your comrades about a non-problem. > >> BTW: NASA and other organisations already track "big ass asteroids" so >> we can prepare for such an event. > > Knowing the "big one" is coming and being "prepared" are different > things. We won't be "prepared" unless we quit pissing money down the > AGW rathole. > which one of my armpits do you think is the cutest
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| From | Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-13 01:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pd83q4$uus$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #685155 |
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! On Sat, 12 May 2018 21:03:59 -0400, Wally W. wrote: > On Sun, 13 May 2018 08:56:29 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: > >>On 13/05/2018 3:55 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>> On Sat, 12 May 2018 08:57:03 -0400, kensi wrote: >>> >>>> UN Climate Change today launched its first-ever Annual Report, >>> >>> Maybe it will also be its last? >> >>**Unlikely. >> >> >>> >>>> laying out the key 2017 achievements and pointing to the future of >>>> the climate change process. "Climate Change is the single biggest >>>> threat to life, security and prosperity on Earth," >>> >>> That's deluded. >> >>**Well, no, it isn't. It's quite factual. > > It is ludicrous. > > There are many fast-acting threats "to life, security and prosperity on > Earth," including: > - Nuclear war Disarmament > - Pandemics Universal health care > - Supervolcanoes Monitoring is all we can do there. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxycc9MPhZU SUPERVOLCANO! 7 > Supervolcanoes That Threaten The Future of Humanity > > >>> It pales in comparison to the threat from a big ass asteroid. >>> >>> >>**Perhaps. >>* When do you expect a "big ass asteroid" to hit? >>* What can we do to prevent a "big ass asteroid" from hitting Earth? > > Nothing if we keep wasting money on "fighting" climate change. > > >>* Given the possibility that a "big ass asteroid" may hit us sometime in >>the (unspecified) future, should we plan to find a way to deal with that >>eventuality? > > Yes. > >>* Given the fact that global warming is occurring right now > > So what? > > It is it is a religious belief, not a "given fact," that global warming > is "bad." > > >>and it's effects are being felt right now, > > Woo hoo. Way better than the Little Ice Age. > >>do you think we should deal with the problem now? > > What "problem?" > > >>* Do you think it is possible that we can (try to) deal with global >>warming and a "big ass asteroid" simultaneously? Or can 7.5 billion >>humans only deal with one problem at a time? > > It is not necessary to "(try to) deal with global warming." > > It is a fool's errand. > > We can (try to) deal with a "big ass asteroid" and some other real > problem simultaneously if people with the purse strings will ignore the > hysterical shrieking from your comrades about a non-problem. > >>BTW: NASA and other organisations already track "big ass asteroids" so >>we can prepare for such an event. > > Knowing the "big one" is coming and being "prepared" are different > things. We won't be "prepared" unless we quit pissing money down the AGW > rathole. Newsflash, kooky: the earth has finite fossil fuels and we've already used more than half of them up. We will *necessarily* transition to cleaner energy sources. The only choice we get is when, and maybe how messily. Might as well be now and as smoothly as we can manage it. And that will deal with AGW in the process. -- FNVWe Nadegda Fakey couldn't teach a monkey to eat a banana, much less answer a direct question posed to him. -- Fakey's Dogwhistle Holder
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-12 18:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b94pm8.r6v.19.10@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #685158 |
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-12 21:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <JxMJC.113681$o43.3443@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #685158 |
On 5/12/2018 9:19 PM, Nadegda wrote: > Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! > On Sat, 12 May 2018 21:03:59 -0400, Wally W. wrote: > >> On Sun, 13 May 2018 08:56:29 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> >>> On 13/05/2018 3:55 AM, Wally W. wrote: >>>> On Sat, 12 May 2018 08:57:03 -0400, kensi wrote: >>>> >>>>> UN Climate Change today launched its first-ever Annual Report, >>>> >>>> Maybe it will also be its last? >>> >>> **Unlikely. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> laying out the key 2017 achievements and pointing to the future of >>>>> the climate change process. "Climate Change is the single biggest >>>>> threat to life, security and prosperity on Earth," >>>> >>>> That's deluded. >>> >>> **Well, no, it isn't. It's quite factual. >> >> It is ludicrous. >> >> There are many fast-acting threats "to life, security and prosperity on >> Earth," including: >> - Nuclear war > > Disarmament > >> - Pandemics > > Universal health care > >> - Supervolcanoes > > Monitoring is all we can do there. > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxycc9MPhZU SUPERVOLCANO! 7 >> Supervolcanoes That Threaten The Future of Humanity >> >> >>>> It pales in comparison to the threat from a big ass asteroid. >>>> >>>> >>> **Perhaps. >>> * When do you expect a "big ass asteroid" to hit? >>> * What can we do to prevent a "big ass asteroid" from hitting Earth? >> >> Nothing if we keep wasting money on "fighting" climate change. >> >> >>> * Given the possibility that a "big ass asteroid" may hit us sometime in >>> the (unspecified) future, should we plan to find a way to deal with that >>> eventuality? >> >> Yes. >> >>> * Given the fact that global warming is occurring right now >> >> So what? >> >> It is it is a religious belief, not a "given fact," that global warming >> is "bad." >> >> >>> and it's effects are being felt right now, >> >> Woo hoo. Way better than the Little Ice Age. >> >>> do you think we should deal with the problem now? >> >> What "problem?" >> >> >>> * Do you think it is possible that we can (try to) deal with global >>> warming and a "big ass asteroid" simultaneously? Or can 7.5 billion >>> humans only deal with one problem at a time? >> >> It is not necessary to "(try to) deal with global warming." >> >> It is a fool's errand. >> >> We can (try to) deal with a "big ass asteroid" and some other real >> problem simultaneously if people with the purse strings will ignore the >> hysterical shrieking from your comrades about a non-problem. >> >>> BTW: NASA and other organisations already track "big ass asteroids" so >>> we can prepare for such an event. >> >> Knowing the "big one" is coming and being "prepared" are different >> things. We won't be "prepared" unless we quit pissing money down the AGW >> rathole. > > Newsflash, kooky: the earth has finite fossil fuels and we've already used > more than half of them up. We will *necessarily* transition to cleaner > energy sources. The only choice we get is when, and maybe how messily. > Might as well be now and as smoothly as we can manage it. And that will > deal with AGW in the process. > Nads idea of "smooth" is a quick return to the middle ages to "stabilize" the climate. Forget that we've got 300 years worth of coal which could be used without problem if a little effort were put into "clean coal". Oh wait! We all make fun of coal and use oil and gas until it runs out and THEN return to the middle ages. OF course we COULD have an energy tax that could fund clean coal research, but it's really much better to give that money away to Third World dictators to waste and live high until everything crashes. In Nads world logic and reason play no role.
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