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Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

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  Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood."  -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 09:33 -0700
    Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-19 07:20 +0100
      Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 10:58 -0700
        Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-19 20:59 +0100
          Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 21:12 -0700
            Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-20 07:39 +0100
              Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 23:52 -0700
                Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-20 18:29 +0100
                  Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 10:56 -0700
                    Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-20 20:16 +0100
                      Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 12:40 -0700
                        Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-20 22:01 +0100
                          Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 14:23 -0700
                            Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-21 05:06 +0100
                              Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 21:38 -0700
                                Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-21 17:29 +0100
                                  Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 11:16 -0700
                                    Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-22 05:56 +0100
                                      Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 22:44 -0700
                                        Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-22 16:16 +0100
                                          Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 08:42 -0700
                                            Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-23 05:27 +0100
                                              Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 22:21 -0700
                                                Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-23 17:53 +0100
                                                  Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:27 -0700
                                                    Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-24 06:24 +0100
                                                      Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 22:45 -0700
                                                        Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-24 17:54 +0100
                                                          Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 10:27 -0700
                                                            Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-25 07:17 +0100
                                          Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Skeet <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-22 09:44 -0600
                      Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 22:44 -0700
                        Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-21 16:41 +0100
                          Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Skeet <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-21 11:23 -0600
                            Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-21 13:26 -0400
                          Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 11:15 -0700
                            Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-22 05:26 +0100
              Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-03-20 02:53 -0400
              Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science -- Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-20 01:28 -0600

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#564499 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 08:42 -0700
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<de92bdfc-f154-4575-88ff-175323af4ba5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564485
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 8:26:55 AM UTC-7, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

> >> it has to do with air density and thus convection... 
> 
> > Uh, "air density and thus convection?"  Gibberish.
> 
> Ok, then let's hear your explanation, Jim.


It seems more interesting to let you provide the explanations.

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#564718 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-23 05:27 +0100
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<84915451cf0e18d5364ef69a29c88632@dizum.com>
In reply to#564499
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James McGinn, in
<news:de92bdfc-f154-4575-88ff-175323af4ba5@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 8:26:55 AM UTC-7,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>>>> it has to do with air density and thus convection... 

>>> Uh, "air density and thus convection?"  Gibberish.

>> Ok, then let's hear your explanation, Jim.

> It seems more interesting to let you provide the explanations.

You're backpedaling, Jim. I'm calling it... James Bernard McGinn, Jr.
has no idea why there is a "boundary" between the troposphere and
stratosphere because he's an uneducated moronic psychopathic moron.

-- 

Here, James, at the very least, try to address those tough questions
which spotlight the logical inconsistencies and contradictions
inherent in your "theory":

============================================================
Anders Nilsson measured (https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156) a
spectral peak that was not solid-phase nor liquid-phase water, James.
You claim that water remains liquid-phase upon evaporation. What was
Anders Nilsson measuring, James? Oh, that's right... gaseous phase
water, thereby proving that evaporation entails a phase change,
thereby proving latent heat of evaporation exists, thereby
*dis*proving a gigantic chunk of your theory, James.

You make a supposition that a "plasma not-a-plasma" is created from
water due to wind shear, which transports energy throughout the
atmosphere via wind driven by that plasma. Where does the energy come
from to create your "wind shear" to create your "plasma not-a-plasma"
if the "plasma not-a-plasma" cannot exist and thereby "transport
energy" by driving that wind to create the "wind shear" which creates
your "plasma not-a-plasma", unless there is "wind shear" to begin
with, James? Your logic is so twisted you're going in circles. You've
created a circulus in probando causality dilemma, which utterly
destroys your theory, James.

According to your "theory", electrostatic attraction *increases* with
distance (in violation of Coulomb's Law), which means that when an
electron falls in orbit, it has to *absorb* energy. And that higher
energy level somehow translates into a *weaker* electrostatic
attraction. Now let's look at the other side of the coin... the
electron in orbit would give off energy, rise in orbit, and somehow,
that *lower* energy level translates into a *stronger* electrostatic
attraction... how's *that* work, James? Explain how you've not just
violated the Law of Conservation of Energy on an atomic level.

How do your "jet stream vortices" travel potentially hundreds of miles
away from your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky", without
detection by satellite *or* Doppler radar, and know where and when to
touch down so they always hit only cumulonimbus clouds, rather than
tornadoes randomly appearing out of the clear blue sky or from other
types of clouds, James? Is your "jet stream / giant tornado in the
sky" sentient, James?

Go on, Jim, tell us... *why* is there a "boundary" between the
troposphere and the stratosphere... we're waiting, Jim... No answer,
Jim? Is it because that's where your "sentient jet stream / giant
tornado monster with noodly appendages" lives, and it likes it that
way, Jim? Do you need your meds, Jim?

If, as you claim, the jet stream is a vortex, why is the ride while
inside the jet stream so smooth, James? Have you never ridden in an
airplane inside a jet stream, James? Is it just that your "sentient
jet stream / giant tornado monster with noodly appendages" likes its
back scratched by the aircraft, so it doesn't rip the aircraft to
shreds, Jim?

Do you not understand that once the air going upward through the
tornadic funnel reaches the cumulonimbus cloud base above the
mesocyclone, it spreads out, thus the tornado is strictly a phenomenon
which happens from cloud base to ground? It does *not* go from the
ground all the way up through the cloud to the tropopause as you
claim, James, and it most certainly does not continue for potentially
hundreds of miles in the upper troposphere to join the jet stream,
which would make air travel deadly.

Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if
the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado
being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James?

Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not?
That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is
it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity,
James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due
to lack of oxygen. So your claiming that convection doesn't exist
means you're further claiming that gravity does not exist, and fire
cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of
oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced
phenomenon due to density differential, James?

How does a hot air balloon rise, Jim? That's due to air density
differential due to temperature differential, is it not? That
less-dense air is convecting upward. Do you deny this, Jim? Is your
giant sentient sky tornado monster stretching one of its noodly
appendages down and gently lifting the hot air balloon, Jim?

How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma,
Jim?

Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James?

How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a
hypothetical construct in a failed attempt to lend your claims even a
semblance of plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and
dissociation energy of water are identical, and thus the water will
preferentially dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an
extremely energetic laser, Jim?

Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength,
extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except
photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above
the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the
troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim?

How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not
dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the
planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly
all the water is, and where all life is, Jim?

Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change
upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes
in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do
not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water
molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account
for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your
implausible claims are workable, Jim?
============================================================

Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

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#564726 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-22 22:21 -0700
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<8274f600-3981-46a8-a9dd-64d4866098f9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564718
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 9:38:10 PM UTC-7, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
> 
> James McGinn, in
> <news:de92bdfc-f154-4575-88ff-175323af4ba5@googlegroups.com> did
> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> 
> > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 8:26:55 AM UTC-7,
> > Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> 
> >>>> it has to do with air density and thus convection... 
> 
> >>> Uh, "air density and thus convection?"  Gibberish.
> 
> >> Ok, then let's hear your explanation, Jim.
> 
> > It seems more interesting to let you provide the explanations.
> 
> You're backpedaling, Jim. I'm calling it... James Bernard McGinn, Jr.
> has no idea why there is a "boundary" between the troposphere and
> stratosphere because he's an uneducated moronic psychopathic moron.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Here, James, at the very least, try to address those tough questions
> which spotlight the logical inconsistencies and contradictions
> inherent in your "theory":
> 
> ============================================================
> Anders Nilsson measured (https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156) a
> spectral peak that was not solid-phase nor liquid-phase water, James.
> You claim that water remains liquid-phase upon evaporation. What was
> Anders Nilsson measuring, James? Oh, that's right... gaseous phase
> water, thereby proving that evaporation entails a phase change,
> thereby proving latent heat of evaporation exists, thereby
> *dis*proving a gigantic chunk of your theory, James.
> 
> You make a supposition that a "plasma not-a-plasma" is created from
> water due to wind shear, which transports energy throughout the
> atmosphere via wind driven by that plasma. Where does the energy come
> from to create your "wind shear" to create your "plasma not-a-plasma"
> if the "plasma not-a-plasma" cannot exist and thereby "transport
> energy" by driving that wind to create the "wind shear" which creates
> your "plasma not-a-plasma", unless there is "wind shear" to begin
> with, James? Your logic is so twisted you're going in circles. You've
> created a circulus in probando causality dilemma, which utterly
> destroys your theory, James.
> 
> According to your "theory", electrostatic attraction *increases* with
> distance (in violation of Coulomb's Law), which means that when an
> electron falls in orbit, it has to *absorb* energy. And that higher
> energy level somehow translates into a *weaker* electrostatic
> attraction. Now let's look at the other side of the coin... the
> electron in orbit would give off energy, rise in orbit, and somehow,
> that *lower* energy level translates into a *stronger* electrostatic
> attraction... how's *that* work, James? Explain how you've not just
> violated the Law of Conservation of Energy on an atomic level.
> 
> How do your "jet stream vortices" travel potentially hundreds of miles
> away from your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky", without
> detection by satellite *or* Doppler radar, and know where and when to
> touch down so they always hit only cumulonimbus clouds, rather than
> tornadoes randomly appearing out of the clear blue sky or from other
> types of clouds, James? Is your "jet stream / giant tornado in the
> sky" sentient, James?
> 
> Go on, Jim, tell us... *why* is there a "boundary" between the
> troposphere and the stratosphere... we're waiting, Jim... No answer,
> Jim? Is it because that's where your "sentient jet stream / giant
> tornado monster with noodly appendages" lives, and it likes it that
> way, Jim? Do you need your meds, Jim?
> 
> If, as you claim, the jet stream is a vortex, why is the ride while
> inside the jet stream so smooth, James? Have you never ridden in an
> airplane inside a jet stream, James? Is it just that your "sentient
> jet stream / giant tornado monster with noodly appendages" likes its
> back scratched by the aircraft, so it doesn't rip the aircraft to
> shreds, Jim?
> 
> Do you not understand that once the air going upward through the
> tornadic funnel reaches the cumulonimbus cloud base above the
> mesocyclone, it spreads out, thus the tornado is strictly a phenomenon
> which happens from cloud base to ground? It does *not* go from the
> ground all the way up through the cloud to the tropopause as you
> claim, James, and it most certainly does not continue for potentially
> hundreds of miles in the upper troposphere to join the jet stream,
> which would make air travel deadly.
> 
> Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if
> the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado
> being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James?
> 
> Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not?
> That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is
> it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity,
> James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due
> to lack of oxygen. So your claiming that convection doesn't exist
> means you're further claiming that gravity does not exist, and fire
> cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of
> oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced
> phenomenon due to density differential, James?
> 
> How does a hot air balloon rise, Jim? That's due to air density
> differential due to temperature differential, is it not? That
> less-dense air is convecting upward. Do you deny this, Jim? Is your
> giant sentient sky tornado monster stretching one of its noodly
> appendages down and gently lifting the hot air balloon, Jim?
> 
> How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma,
> Jim?
> 
> Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James?
> 
> How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a
> hypothetical construct in a failed attempt to lend your claims even a
> semblance of plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and
> dissociation energy of water are identical, and thus the water will
> preferentially dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an
> extremely energetic laser, Jim?
> 
> Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength,
> extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except
> photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above
> the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the
> troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim?
> 
> How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not
> dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the
> planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly
> all the water is, and where all life is, Jim?
> 
> Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change
> upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes
> in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do
> not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water
> molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account
> for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your
> implausible claims are workable, Jim?
> ============================================================
> 
> Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

How about Wiki?

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#564850 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-23 17:53 +0100
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<e159eda7be1fc9978b61d8bef5384527@dizum.com>
In reply to#564726
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James McGinn, in
<news:8274f600-3981-46a8-a9dd-64d4866098f9@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 9:38:10 PM UTC-7,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>> James McGinn, in
>> <news:de92bdfc-f154-4575-88ff-175323af4ba5@googlegroups.com> did
>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

>>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 8:26:55 AM UTC-7,
>>> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>>>>>> it has to do with air density and thus convection... 

>>>>> Uh, "air density and thus convection?"  Gibberish.

>>>> Ok, then let's hear your explanation, Jim.

>>> It seems more interesting to let you provide the explanations.

>> You're backpedaling, Jim. I'm calling it... James Bernard McGinn, Jr.
>> has no idea why there is a "boundary" between the troposphere and
>> stratosphere because he's an uneducated moronic psychopathic moron.

> How about Wiki?

How about you admit you can't explain why the "barrier" between
troposphere and stratosphere exists without opening up another huge
gaping hole in your moronic blather, James?

-- 

Here, James, at the very least, try to address those tough questions
which spotlight the logical inconsistencies and contradictions
inherent in your "theory":

============================================================
Anders Nilsson measured (https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156) a
spectral peak that was not solid-phase nor liquid-phase water, James.
You claim that water remains liquid-phase upon evaporation. What was
Anders Nilsson measuring, James? Oh, that's right... gaseous phase
water, thereby proving that evaporation entails a phase change,
thereby proving latent heat of evaporation exists, thereby
*dis*proving a gigantic chunk of your theory, James.

You make a supposition that a "plasma not-a-plasma" is created from
water due to wind shear, which transports energy throughout the
atmosphere via wind driven by that plasma. Where does the energy come
from to create your "wind shear" to create your "plasma not-a-plasma"
if the "plasma not-a-plasma" cannot exist and thereby "transport
energy" by driving that wind to create the "wind shear" which creates
your "plasma not-a-plasma", unless there is "wind shear" to begin
with, James? Your logic is so twisted you're going in circles. You've
created a circulus in probando causality dilemma, which utterly
destroys your theory, James.

According to your "theory", electrostatic attraction *increases* with
distance (in violation of Coulomb's Law), which means that when an
electron falls in orbit, it has to *absorb* energy. And that higher
energy level somehow translates into a *weaker* electrostatic
attraction. Now let's look at the other side of the coin... the
electron in orbit would give off energy, rise in orbit, and somehow,
that *lower* energy level translates into a *stronger* electrostatic
attraction... how's *that* work, James? Explain how you've not just
violated the Law of Conservation of Energy on an atomic level.

How do your "jet stream vortices" travel potentially hundreds of miles
away from your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky", without
detection by satellite *or* Doppler radar, and know where and when to
touch down so they always hit only cumulonimbus clouds, rather than
tornadoes randomly appearing out of the clear blue sky or from other
types of clouds, James? Is your "jet stream / giant tornado in the
sky" sentient, James?

Go on, Jim, tell us... *why* is there a "boundary" between the
troposphere and the stratosphere... we're waiting, Jim... No answer,
Jim? Is it because that's where your "sentient jet stream / giant
tornado monster with noodly appendages" lives, and it likes it that
way, Jim? Do you need your meds, Jim?

If, as you claim, the jet stream is a vortex, why is the ride while
inside the jet stream so smooth, James? Have you never ridden in an
airplane inside a jet stream, James? Is it just that your "sentient
jet stream / giant tornado monster with noodly appendages" likes its
back scratched by the aircraft, so it doesn't rip the aircraft to
shreds, Jim?

Do you not understand that once the air going upward through the
tornadic funnel reaches the cumulonimbus cloud base above the
mesocyclone, it spreads out, thus the tornado is strictly a phenomenon
which happens from cloud base to ground? It does *not* go from the
ground all the way up through the cloud to the tropopause as you
claim, James, and it most certainly does not continue for potentially
hundreds of miles in the upper troposphere to join the jet stream,
which would make air travel deadly.

Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if
the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado
being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James?

Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not?
That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is
it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity,
James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due
to lack of oxygen. So your claiming that convection doesn't exist
means you're further claiming that gravity does not exist, and fire
cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of
oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced
phenomenon due to density differential, James?

How does a hot air balloon rise, Jim? That's due to air density
differential due to temperature differential, is it not? That
less-dense air is convecting upward. Do you deny this, Jim? Is your
giant sentient sky tornado monster stretching one of its noodly
appendages down and gently lifting the hot air balloon, Jim?

How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma,
Jim?

Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James?

How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a
hypothetical construct in a failed attempt to lend your claims even a
semblance of plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and
dissociation energy of water are identical, and thus the water will
preferentially dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an
extremely energetic laser, Jim?

Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength,
extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except
photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above
the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the
troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim?

How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not
dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the
planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly
all the water is, and where all life is, Jim?

Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change
upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes
in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do
not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water
molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account
for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your
implausible claims are workable, Jim?
============================================================

Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

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#564859 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-23 10:27 -0700
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<dfdd46f9-e4d7-497c-bc57-5546dda87ba1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564850
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:03:58 AM UTC-7, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
> 
> James McGinn, in
> <news:8274f600-3981-46a8-a9dd-64d4866098f9@googlegroups.com> did
> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> 
> > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 9:38:10 PM UTC-7,
> > Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> 
> >> James McGinn, in
> >> <news:de92bdfc-f154-4575-88ff-175323af4ba5@googlegroups.com> did
> >> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> 
> >>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 8:26:55 AM UTC-7,
> >>> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> 
> >>>>>> it has to do with air density and thus convection... 
> 
> >>>>> Uh, "air density and thus convection?"  Gibberish.
> 
> >>>> Ok, then let's hear your explanation, Jim.
> 
> >>> It seems more interesting to let you provide the explanations.
> 
> >> You're backpedaling, Jim. I'm calling it... James Bernard McGinn, Jr.
> >> has no idea why there is a "boundary" between the troposphere and
> >> stratosphere because he's an uneducated moronic psychopathic moron.
> 
> > How about Wiki?
> 
> How about you admit you can't explain why the "barrier" between
> troposphere and stratosphere exists without opening up another huge
> gaping hole in your moronic blather, James?

Uh, try the bookstore.

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#565013 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-24 06:24 +0100
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<908822b3847e8d7348e86f127b060118@dizum.com>
In reply to#564859
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James 'Tardnado' McGinn, in
<news:dfdd46f9-e4d7-497c-bc57-5546dda87ba1@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:03:58 AM UTC-7,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>> James 'Tardnado' McGinn, in
>> <news:8274f600-3981-46a8-a9dd-64d4866098f9@googlegroups.com> did
>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

>>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 9:38:10 PM UTC-7,
>>> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>>>> James 'Tardnado' McGinn, in
>>>> <news:de92bdfc-f154-4575-88ff-175323af4ba5@googlegroups.com> did
>>>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

>>>>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 8:26:55 AM UTC-7,
>>>>> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>>>>>>>> it has to do with air density and thus convection... 

>>>>>>> Uh, "air density and thus convection?"  Gibberish.

>>>>>> Ok, then let's hear your explanation, Jim.

>>>>> It seems more interesting to let you provide the explanations.

>>>> You're backpedaling, Jim. I'm calling it... James Bernard McGinn, Jr.
>>>> has no idea why there is a "boundary" between the troposphere and
>>>> stratosphere because he's an uneducated moronic psychopathic moron.

>>> How about Wiki?

>> How about you admit you can't explain why the "barrier" between
>> troposphere and stratosphere exists without opening up another huge
>> gaping hole in your moronic blather, James?

> Uh, try the bookstore.

No, Jim. We need to know what *your* take is on why there is a
"boundary" between the troposphere and the stratosphere. Unless you
don't know. Why don't you know, Jim? Are you ignorant?

Jim can't even explain everyday phenomena. He's simply not smart or
sane enough to model the atmosphere. He's uneducated and ignorant.

-- 

Here, James, at the very least, try to address those tough questions
which spotlight the logical inconsistencies and contradictions
inherent in your "theory":

============================================================
Anders Nilsson measured (https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156) a
spectral peak that was not solid-phase nor liquid-phase water, James.
You claim that water remains liquid-phase upon evaporation. What was
Anders Nilsson measuring, James? Oh, that's right... gaseous phase
water, thereby proving that evaporation entails a phase change,
thereby proving latent heat of evaporation exists, thereby
*dis*proving a gigantic chunk of your theory, James.

You make a supposition that a "plasma not-a-plasma" is created from
water due to wind shear, which transports energy throughout the
atmosphere via wind driven by that plasma. Where does the energy come
from to create your "wind shear" to create your "plasma not-a-plasma"
if the "plasma not-a-plasma" cannot exist and thereby "transport
energy" by driving that wind to create the "wind shear" which creates
your "plasma not-a-plasma", unless there is "wind shear" to begin
with, James? Your logic is so twisted you're going in circles. You've
created a circulus in probando causality dilemma, which utterly
destroys your theory, James.

According to your "theory", electrostatic attraction *increases* with
distance (in violation of Coulomb's Law), which means that when an
electron falls in orbit, it has to *absorb* energy. And that higher
energy level somehow translates into a *weaker* electrostatic
attraction. Now let's look at the other side of the coin... the
electron in orbit would give off energy, rise in orbit, and somehow,
that *lower* energy level translates into a *stronger* electrostatic
attraction... how's *that* work, James? Explain how you've not just
violated the Law of Conservation of Energy on an atomic level.

How do your "jet stream vortices" travel potentially hundreds of miles
away from your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky", without
detection by satellite *or* Doppler radar, and know where and when to
touch down so they always hit only cumulonimbus clouds, rather than
tornadoes randomly appearing out of the clear blue sky or from other
types of clouds, James? Is your "jet stream / giant tornado in the
sky" sentient, James?

Go on, Jim, tell us... *why* is there a "boundary" between the
troposphere and the stratosphere... we're waiting, Jim... No answer,
Jim? Is it because that's where your "sentient jet stream / giant
tornado monster with noodly appendages" lives, and it likes it that
way, Jim? Do you need your meds, Jim?

If, as you claim, the jet stream is a vortex, why is the ride while
inside the jet stream so smooth, James? Have you never ridden in an
airplane inside a jet stream, James? Is it just that your "sentient
jet stream / giant tornado monster with noodly appendages" likes its
back scratched by the aircraft, so it doesn't rip the aircraft to
shreds, Jim?

Do you not understand that once the air going upward through the
tornadic funnel reaches the cumulonimbus cloud base above the
mesocyclone, it spreads out, thus the tornado is strictly a phenomenon
which happens from cloud base to ground? It does *not* go from the
ground all the way up through the cloud to the tropopause as you
claim, James, and it most certainly does not continue for potentially
hundreds of miles in the upper troposphere to join the jet stream,
which would make air travel deadly.

Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if
the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado
being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James?

Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not?
That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is
it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity,
James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due
to lack of oxygen. So your claiming that convection doesn't exist
means you're further claiming that gravity does not exist, and fire
cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of
oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced
phenomenon due to density differential, James?

How does a hot air balloon rise, Jim? That's due to air density
differential due to temperature differential, is it not? That
less-dense air is convecting upward. Do you deny this, Jim? Is your
giant sentient sky tornado monster stretching one of its noodly
appendages down and gently lifting the hot air balloon, Jim?

How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma,
Jim?

Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James?

How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a
hypothetical construct in a failed attempt to lend your claims even a
semblance of plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and
dissociation energy of water are identical, and thus the water will
preferentially dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an
extremely energetic laser, Jim?

Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength,
extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except
photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above
the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the
troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim?

How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not
dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the
planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly
all the water is, and where all life is, Jim?

Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change
upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes
in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do
not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water
molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account
for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your
implausible claims are workable, Jim?
============================================================

Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

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#565018 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-23 22:45 -0700
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<de752759-98a3-4138-a4d3-8bc1bdbacfcf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#565013
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:35:11 PM UTC-7, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
> 
> James 'Tardnado' McGinn, in
> <news:dfdd46f9-e4d7-497c-bc57-5546dda87ba1@googlegroups.com> did
> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> 
> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:03:58 AM UTC-7,
> > Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> 
> >> James 'Tardnado' McGinn, in
> >> <news:8274f600-3981-46a8-a9dd-64d4866098f9@googlegroups.com> did
> >> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> 
> >>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 9:38:10 PM UTC-7,
> >>> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> 
> >>>> James 'Tardnado' McGinn, in
> >>>> <news:de92bdfc-f154-4575-88ff-175323af4ba5@googlegroups.com> did
> >>>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> 
> >>>>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 8:26:55 AM UTC-7,
> >>>>> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> 
> >>>>>>>> it has to do with air density and thus convection... 
> 
> >>>>>>> Uh, "air density and thus convection?"  Gibberish.
> 
> >>>>>> Ok, then let's hear your explanation, Jim.
> 
> >>>>> It seems more interesting to let you provide the explanations.
> 
> >>>> You're backpedaling, Jim. I'm calling it... James Bernard McGinn, Jr.
> >>>> has no idea why there is a "boundary" between the troposphere and
> >>>> stratosphere because he's an uneducated moronic psychopathic moron.
> 
> >>> How about Wiki?
> 
> >> How about you admit you can't explain why the "barrier" between
> >> troposphere and stratosphere exists without opening up another huge
> >> gaping hole in your moronic blather, James?
> 
> > Uh, try the bookstore.
> 
> No, Jim. We need to know what *your* take is on why there is a
> "boundary" between the troposphere and the stratosphere. Unless you
> don't know. Why don't you know, Jim? Are you ignorant?
> 
> Jim can't even explain everyday phenomena. He's simply not smart or
> sane enough to model the atmosphere. He's uneducated and ignorant.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Here, James, at the very least, try to address those tough questions
> which spotlight the logical inconsistencies and contradictions
> inherent in your "theory":
> 
> ============================================================
> Anders Nilsson measured (https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156) a
> spectral peak that was not solid-phase nor liquid-phase water, James.
> You claim that water remains liquid-phase upon evaporation. What was
> Anders Nilsson measuring, James? Oh, that's right... gaseous phase
> water, thereby proving that evaporation entails a phase change,
> thereby proving latent heat of evaporation exists, thereby
> *dis*proving a gigantic chunk of your theory, James.
> 
> You make a supposition that a "plasma not-a-plasma" is created from
> water due to wind shear, which transports energy throughout the
> atmosphere via wind driven by that plasma. Where does the energy come
> from to create your "wind shear" to create your "plasma not-a-plasma"
> if the "plasma not-a-plasma" cannot exist and thereby "transport
> energy" by driving that wind to create the "wind shear" which creates
> your "plasma not-a-plasma", unless there is "wind shear" to begin
> with, James? Your logic is so twisted you're going in circles. You've
> created a circulus in probando causality dilemma, which utterly
> destroys your theory, James.
> 
> According to your "theory", electrostatic attraction *increases* with
> distance (in violation of Coulomb's Law), which means that when an
> electron falls in orbit, it has to *absorb* energy. And that higher
> energy level somehow translates into a *weaker* electrostatic
> attraction. Now let's look at the other side of the coin... the
> electron in orbit would give off energy, rise in orbit, and somehow,
> that *lower* energy level translates into a *stronger* electrostatic
> attraction... how's *that* work, James? Explain how you've not just
> violated the Law of Conservation of Energy on an atomic level.
> 
> How do your "jet stream vortices" travel potentially hundreds of miles
> away from your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky", without
> detection by satellite *or* Doppler radar, and know where and when to
> touch down so they always hit only cumulonimbus clouds, rather than
> tornadoes randomly appearing out of the clear blue sky or from other
> types of clouds, James? Is your "jet stream / giant tornado in the
> sky" sentient, James?
> 
> Go on, Jim, tell us... *why* is there a "boundary" between the
> troposphere and the stratosphere... we're waiting, Jim... No answer,
> Jim? Is it because that's where your "sentient jet stream / giant
> tornado monster with noodly appendages" lives, and it likes it that
> way, Jim? Do you need your meds, Jim?
> 
> If, as you claim, the jet stream is a vortex, why is the ride while
> inside the jet stream so smooth, James? Have you never ridden in an
> airplane inside a jet stream, James? Is it just that your "sentient
> jet stream / giant tornado monster with noodly appendages" likes its
> back scratched by the aircraft, so it doesn't rip the aircraft to
> shreds, Jim?
> 
> Do you not understand that once the air going upward through the
> tornadic funnel reaches the cumulonimbus cloud base above the
> mesocyclone, it spreads out, thus the tornado is strictly a phenomenon
> which happens from cloud base to ground? It does *not* go from the
> ground all the way up through the cloud to the tropopause as you
> claim, James, and it most certainly does not continue for potentially
> hundreds of miles in the upper troposphere to join the jet stream,
> which would make air travel deadly.
> 
> Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if
> the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado
> being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James?
> 
> Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not?
> That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is
> it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity,
> James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due
> to lack of oxygen. So your claiming that convection doesn't exist
> means you're further claiming that gravity does not exist, and fire
> cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of
> oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced
> phenomenon due to density differential, James?
> 
> How does a hot air balloon rise, Jim? That's due to air density
> differential due to temperature differential, is it not? That
> less-dense air is convecting upward. Do you deny this, Jim? Is your
> giant sentient sky tornado monster stretching one of its noodly
> appendages down and gently lifting the hot air balloon, Jim?
> 
> How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma,
> Jim?
> 
> Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James?
> 
> How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a
> hypothetical construct in a failed attempt to lend your claims even a
> semblance of plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and
> dissociation energy of water are identical, and thus the water will
> preferentially dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an
> extremely energetic laser, Jim?
> 
> Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength,
> extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except
> photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above
> the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the
> troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim?
> 
> How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not
> dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the
> planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly
> all the water is, and where all life is, Jim?
> 
> Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change
> upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes
> in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do
> not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water
> molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account
> for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your
> implausible claims are workable, Jim?
> ============================================================
> 
> Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

What was the question again?

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#565159 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-24 17:54 +0100
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<3cf8f57f89f1b8af6a72def978510590@dizum.com>
In reply to#565018
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James 'Tardnado' McGinn, in
<news:de752759-98a3-4138-a4d3-8bc1bdbacfcf@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:35:11 PM UTC-7,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>> No, Jim. We need to know what *your* take is on why there is a
>> "boundary" between the troposphere and the stratosphere. Unless you
>> don't know. Why don't you know, Jim? Are you ignorant?
>> 
>> Jim can't even explain everyday phenomena. He's simply not smart or
>> sane enough to model the atmosphere. He's uneducated and ignorant.

> What was the question again?

We need to know what *your* take is on why there is a "boundary"
between the troposphere and the stratosphere. Unless you don't know.
Why don't you know, Jim? Are you ignorant?

Jim can't even explain everyday phenomena. He's simply not smart or
sane enough to model the atmosphere. He's uneducated and ignorant.

-- 

Here, James, at the very least, try to address those tough questions
which spotlight the logical inconsistencies and contradictions
inherent in your "theory":

============================================================
Anders Nilsson measured (https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156) a
spectral peak that was not solid-phase nor liquid-phase water, James.
You claim that water remains liquid-phase upon evaporation. What was
Anders Nilsson measuring, James? Oh, that's right... gaseous phase
water, thereby proving that evaporation entails a phase change,
thereby proving latent heat of evaporation exists, thereby
*dis*proving a gigantic chunk of your theory, James.

You make a supposition that a "plasma not-a-plasma" is created from
water due to wind shear, which transports energy throughout the
atmosphere via wind driven by that plasma. Where does the energy come
from to create your "wind shear" to create your "plasma not-a-plasma"
if the "plasma not-a-plasma" cannot exist and thereby "transport
energy" by driving that wind to create the "wind shear" which creates
your "plasma not-a-plasma", unless there is "wind shear" to begin
with, James? Your logic is so twisted you're going in circles. You've
created a circulus in probando causality dilemma, which utterly
destroys your theory, James.

According to your "theory", electrostatic attraction *increases* with
distance (in violation of Coulomb's Law), which means that when an
electron falls in orbit, it has to *absorb* energy. And that higher
energy level somehow translates into a *weaker* electrostatic
attraction. Now let's look at the other side of the coin... the
electron in orbit would give off energy, rise in orbit, and somehow,
that *lower* energy level translates into a *stronger* electrostatic
attraction... how's *that* work, James? Explain how you've not just
violated the Law of Conservation of Energy on an atomic level.

How do your "jet stream vortices" travel potentially hundreds of miles
away from your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky", without
detection by satellite *or* Doppler radar, and know where and when to
touch down so they always hit only cumulonimbus clouds, rather than
tornadoes randomly appearing out of the clear blue sky or from other
types of clouds, James? Is your "jet stream / giant tornado in the
sky" sentient, James?

Go on, Jim, tell us... *why* is there a "boundary" between the
troposphere and the stratosphere... we're waiting, Jim... No answer,
Jim? Is it because that's where your "sentient jet stream / giant
tornado monster with noodly appendages" lives, and it likes it that
way, Jim? Do you need your meds, Jim?

If, as you claim, the jet stream is a vortex, why is the ride while
inside the jet stream so smooth, James? Have you never ridden in an
airplane inside a jet stream, James? Is it just that your "sentient
jet stream / giant tornado monster with noodly appendages" likes its
back scratched by the aircraft, so it doesn't rip the aircraft to
shreds, Jim?

Do you not understand that once the air going upward through the
tornadic funnel reaches the cumulonimbus cloud base above the
mesocyclone, it spreads out, thus the tornado is strictly a phenomenon
which happens from cloud base to ground? It does *not* go from the
ground all the way up through the cloud to the tropopause as you
claim, James, and it most certainly does not continue for potentially
hundreds of miles in the upper troposphere to join the jet stream,
which would make air travel deadly.

Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if
the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado
being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James?

Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not?
That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is
it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity,
James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due
to lack of oxygen. So your claiming that convection doesn't exist
means you're further claiming that gravity does not exist, and fire
cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of
oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced
phenomenon due to density differential, James?

How does a hot air balloon rise, Jim? That's due to air density
differential due to temperature differential, is it not? That
less-dense air is convecting upward. Do you deny this, Jim? Is your
giant sentient sky tornado monster stretching one of its noodly
appendages down and gently lifting the hot air balloon, Jim?

How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma,
Jim?

Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James?

How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a
hypothetical construct in a failed attempt to lend your claims even a
semblance of plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and
dissociation energy of water are identical, and thus the water will
preferentially dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an
extremely energetic laser, Jim?

Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength,
extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except
photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above
the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the
troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim?

How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not
dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the
planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly
all the water is, and where all life is, Jim?

Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change
upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes
in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do
not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water
molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account
for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your
implausible claims are workable, Jim?
============================================================

Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

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#565165 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-24 10:27 -0700
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<a888f7c4-5d3a-40a0-983c-a245a2f89769@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#565159
On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:05:31 AM UTC-7, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
> 
> James 'Tardnado' McGinn, in
> <news:de752759-98a3-4138-a4d3-8bc1bdbacfcf@googlegroups.com> did
> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
> 
> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:35:11 PM UTC-7,
> > Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> 
> >> No, Jim. We need to know what *your* take is on why there is a
> >> "boundary" between the troposphere and the stratosphere. Unless you
> >> don't know. Why don't you know, Jim? Are you ignorant?
> >> 
> >> Jim can't even explain everyday phenomena. He's simply not smart or
> >> sane enough to model the atmosphere. He's uneducated and ignorant.
> 
> > What was the question again?
> 
> We need to know what *your* take is on why there is a "boundary"
> between the troposphere and the stratosphere. Unless you don't know.
> Why don't you know, Jim? Are you ignorant?

- "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -animal to reply]" <jth...@astro.indiana-zebra.edu> 
   Dept of Astronomy & IUCSS, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana, USA 
   "There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched 
    at any given moment.  How often, or on what system, the Thought Police 
    plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork.  It was even conceivable 
    that they watched everybody all the time."  -- George Orwell, "1984" 

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.research/QOxLdbhLwQ0/TVKql-ReCQAJ 

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.research/QOxLdbhLwQ0/0k78tLsACgAJ 

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.research/QOxLdbhLwQ0/7mheNz66CwAJ 

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.research/QOxLdbhLwQ0/7mheNz66CwAJ 

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#565370 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-25 07:17 +0100
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<749f321ffb9e73832989af6901796886@dizum.com>
In reply to#565165
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James 'Tardnado' McGinn, in
<news:a888f7c4-5d3a-40a0-983c-a245a2f89769@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:05:31 AM UTC-7,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>> James 'Tardnado' McGinn, in
>> <news:de752759-98a3-4138-a4d3-8bc1bdbacfcf@googlegroups.com> did
>> thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

>>> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:35:11 PM UTC-7,
>>> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>>>> No, Jim. We need to know what *your* take is on why there is a
>>>> "boundary" between the troposphere and the stratosphere. Unless you
>>>> don't know. Why don't you know, Jim? Are you ignorant?
>>>> 
>>>> Jim can't even explain everyday phenomena. He's simply not smart or
>>>> sane enough to model the atmosphere. He's uneducated and ignorant.

>>> What was the question again?

>> We need to know what *your* take is on why there is a "boundary"
>> between the troposphere and the stratosphere. Unless you don't know.
>> Why don't you know, Jim? Are you ignorant?

> - "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -animal to reply]" <jth...@astro.indiana-zebra.edu> 
>    Dept of Astronomy & IUCSS, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana, USA 
>    "There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched 
>     at any given moment.  How often, or on what system, the Thought Police 
>     plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork.  It was even conceivable 
>     that they watched everybody all the time."  -- George Orwell, "1984" 

Is your paranoid schizophrenia rearing its ugly head again, James? You
should know by now that you *are* being monitored. There's nothing you
can do to stop that. Just one slip-up and its off to the loony bin
with James Bernard 'Tardnado' McGinn, Jr. of 1824 Crater Peak Way,
Antioch, CA.

Does Constance know how far gone you are, James? Should she be called
at (925) 756-0968 and informed that you require immediate and intense
professional psychiatric intervention?

Does your father James, Sr. know what an insane disappointment you've
become, Jim? Should he be called at (925) 756-0968 and informed that
you should have your computer privileges revoked until you take your
meds?

Why do you still live at home with Mommy and Daddy, Jim? Is it because
you're *so* insane that you can't be trusted to take care of yourself?

Does your mommy chew your food for you and wipe your ass for you, Jim?
Are you *that* far gone yet? You've got to be close.

<snicker>

> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.research/QOxLdbhLwQ0/TVKql-ReCQAJ 
> 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.research/QOxLdbhLwQ0/0k78tLsACgAJ 
> 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.research/QOxLdbhLwQ0/7mheNz66CwAJ 
> 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics.research/QOxLdbhLwQ0/7mheNz66CwAJ

No, James, referring back to your own moronic blather doesn't prove
anything nor does it say anything other than you're so busy babbling
that you have to refer back to your own babble so you can keep on
babbling rather than stop and answer a question which will destroy
your moronic theory. State plainly and clearly in your own words why
there is a "boundary" between the stratosphere and troposphere,
James... it's all air, right? There are no "structures" up there... so
*what* is causing this "boundary" and *why*, James?

If you claim it is your kooky "plasma not-a-plasma", *why* did your
"plasma not-a-plasma" choose that altitude to create this "boundary",
James?

You don't know, do you, James. Or you do know and you also know that
answering it would destroy your "theory not-a-theory" blabbered by a
"physicist not-a-physicist" in trying to explain his "reality
not-reality" because he is "delusional, fully delusional".

Go on, Tardnado, get to explaining, you fraud.

-- 

Here, James, at the very least, try to address those tough questions
which spotlight the logical inconsistencies and contradictions
inherent in your "theory":

============================================================
Anders Nilsson measured (https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156) a
spectral peak that was not solid-phase nor liquid-phase water, James.
You claim that water remains liquid-phase upon evaporation. What was
Anders Nilsson measuring, James? Oh, that's right... gaseous phase
water, thereby proving that evaporation entails a phase change,
thereby proving latent heat of evaporation exists, thereby
*dis*proving a gigantic chunk of your theory, James.

You make a supposition that a "plasma not-a-plasma" is created from
water due to wind shear, which transports energy throughout the
atmosphere via wind driven by that plasma. Where does the energy come
from to create your "wind shear" to create your "plasma not-a-plasma"
if the "plasma not-a-plasma" cannot exist and thereby "transport
energy" by driving that wind to create the "wind shear" which creates
your "plasma not-a-plasma", unless there is "wind shear" to begin
with, James? Your logic is so twisted you're going in circles. You've
created a circulus in probando causality dilemma, which utterly
destroys your theory, James.

According to your "theory", electrostatic attraction *increases* with
distance (in violation of Coulomb's Law), which means that when an
electron falls in orbit, it has to *absorb* energy. And that higher
energy level somehow translates into a *weaker* electrostatic
attraction. Now let's look at the other side of the coin... the
electron in orbit would give off energy, rise in orbit, and somehow,
that *lower* energy level translates into a *stronger* electrostatic
attraction... how's *that* work, James? Explain how you've not just
violated the Law of Conservation of Energy on an atomic level.

How do your "jet stream vortices" travel potentially hundreds of miles
away from your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky", without
detection by satellite *or* Doppler radar, and know where and when to
touch down so they always hit only cumulonimbus clouds, rather than
tornadoes randomly appearing out of the clear blue sky or from other
types of clouds, James? Is your "jet stream / giant tornado in the
sky" sentient, James?

Go on, Jim, tell us... *why* is there a "boundary" between the
troposphere and the stratosphere... we're waiting, Jim... No answer,
Jim? Is it because that's where your "sentient jet stream / giant
tornado monster with noodly appendages" lives, and it likes it that
way, Jim? Do you need your meds, Jim?

If, as you claim, the jet stream is a vortex, why is the ride while
inside the jet stream so smooth, James? Have you never ridden in an
airplane inside a jet stream, James? Is it just that your "sentient
jet stream / giant tornado monster with noodly appendages" likes its
back scratched by the aircraft, so it doesn't rip the aircraft to
shreds, Jim?

Do you not understand that once the air going upward through the
tornadic funnel reaches the cumulonimbus cloud base above the
mesocyclone, it spreads out, thus the tornado is strictly a phenomenon
which happens from cloud base to ground? It does *not* go from the
ground all the way up through the cloud to the tropopause as you
claim, James, and it most certainly does not continue for potentially
hundreds of miles in the upper troposphere to join the jet stream,
which would make air travel deadly.

Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if
the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado
being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James?

Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not?
That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is
it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity,
James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due
to lack of oxygen. So your claiming that convection doesn't exist
means you're further claiming that gravity does not exist, and fire
cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of
oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced
phenomenon due to density differential, James?

How does a hot air balloon rise, Jim? That's due to air density
differential due to temperature differential, is it not? That
less-dense air is convecting upward. Do you deny this, Jim? Is your
giant sentient sky tornado monster stretching one of its noodly
appendages down and gently lifting the hot air balloon, Jim?

How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma,
Jim?

Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James?

How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a
hypothetical construct in a failed attempt to lend your claims even a
semblance of plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and
dissociation energy of water are identical, and thus the water will
preferentially dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an
extremely energetic laser, Jim?

Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength,
extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except
photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above
the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the
troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim?

How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not
dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the
planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly
all the water is, and where all life is, Jim?

Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change
upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes
in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do
not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water
molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account
for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your
implausible claims are workable, Jim?
============================================================

Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

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#564500 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromSkeet <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-03-22 09:44 -0600
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<32q2fbhih47m690tphgc1stacj5qn4h9cq@4ax.com>
In reply to#564485
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 16:16:22 +0100 (CET), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:

>Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>
>James McGinn, in
><news:3d7ff557-8f82-48cb-b0dd-9ac6b945921a@googlegroups.com> did
>thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:
>
>> On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 10:07:25 PM UTC-7,
>> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
>
>>> Let's hear *your* explanation, James.
>>> 
>>> Remember, you deny all of reality, so I'm sure your take on why there
>>> is a "boundary" between the troposphere and the stratosphere will be
>>> quite entertaining.

The troposphere begins at the Earth's surface and extends up to 4-12
miles (6-20 km) high. This is where we live. As the density of the
gases in this layer decrease with height, the air becomes thinner.
Therefore, the temperature in the troposphere also decreases with
height. As you climb higher, the temperature drops from about 62°F
(17°C) to -60°F (-51°C). Almost all weather occurs in this region. 

The height of the troposphere varies from the equator to the poles. At
the equator it is around 11-12 miles (18-20 km) high, at 50°N and
50°S, 5½ miles and at the poles just under four miles high. The
transition boundary between the troposphere and the layer above is
called the tropopause. Together the tropopause and the troposphere are
known as the lower atmosphere. 

Stratosphere 
The Stratosphere extends from the tropopause up to 31 miles above the
Earth's surface. This layer holds 19 percent of the atmosphere's gases
but very little water vapor. 

Temperature increases with height as radiation is increasingly
absorbed by oxygen molecules leading to the formation of Ozone. The
temperature rises from an average -76°F (-60°C) at tropopause to a
maximum of about 5°F (-15°C) at the stratopause due to this absorption
of ultraviolet radiation. This increase is temperature with height
means no "convection" occurs since there is no vertical movement of
the gases. 

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#564063 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromSolving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-20 22:44 -0700
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<7efaad43-9942-4950-a26d-7c6210d9347e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#563904
On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 12:26:47 PM UTC-7, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

> Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

Why is it you can't carry on a normal conversation, like a normal person?  

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#564160 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-21 16:41 +0100
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<b41ef39b1982911f0ce6d5c112a855f6@dizum.com>
In reply to#564063
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James Bernard McGinn, Jr. of Antioch, CA, socked up as Solving
Tornadoes, in
<news:7efaad43-9942-4950-a26d-7c6210d9347e@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 12:26:47 PM UTC-7,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>> Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

> Why is it you can't carry on a normal conversation, like a normal person?

That's not an answer to those questions, Jim. You've yet again failed
to mount a substantive defense of your fairy tale fabrication of a
'theory'.

You're nothing more than a scientific fraud, James. Your 'theory' is
shot full of holes and is dead. Give up, take your meds, go educate
yourself, and stop being such a fucking moron.

-- 

Here, James, at the very least, try to address those tough questions
which spotlight the logical inconsistencies and contradictions
inherent in your "theory":

============================================================
Anders Nilsson measured (https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156) a
spectral peak that was not solid-phase nor liquid-phase water, James.
You claim that water remains liquid-phase upon evaporation. What was
Anders Nilsson measuring, James? Oh, that's right... gaseous phase
water, thereby proving that evaporation entails a phase change,
thereby proving latent heat of evaporation exists, thereby
*dis*proving a gigantic chunk of your theory, James.

You make a supposition that a "plasma not-a-plasma" is created from
water due to wind shear, which transports energy throughout the
atmosphere via wind driven by that plasma. Where does the energy come
from to create your "wind shear" to create your "plasma not-a-plasma"
if the "plasma not-a-plasma" cannot exist and thereby "transport
energy" by driving that wind to create the "wind shear" which creates
your "plasma not-a-plasma", unless there is "wind shear" to begin
with, James? Your logic is so twisted you're going in circles. You've
created a circulus in probando causality dilemma, which utterly
destroys your theory, James.

According to your "theory", electrostatic attraction *increases* with
distance (in violation of Coulomb's Law), which means that when an
electron falls in orbit, it has to *absorb* energy. And that higher
energy level somehow translates into a *weaker* electrostatic
attraction. Now let's look at the other side of the coin... the
electron in orbit would give off energy, rise in orbit, and somehow,
that *lower* energy level translates into a *stronger* electrostatic
attraction... how's *that* work, James? Explain how you've not just
violated the Law of Conservation of Energy on an atomic level.

How do your "jet stream vortices" travel potentially hundreds of miles
away from your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky", without
detection by satellite *or* Doppler radar, and know where and when to
touch down so they always hit clouds, rather than tornadoes randomly
appearing out of the clear blue sky, James? Is your "jet stream /
giant tornado in the sky" sentient, James?

Go on, Jim, tell us... *why* is there a "boundary" between the
troposphere and the stratosphere... we're waiting, Jim... No answer,
Jim? Is it because that's where your "sentient jet stream / giant
tornado monster with noodly appendages" lives, and it likes it that
way, Jim? Do you need your meds, Jim?

If, as you claim, the jet stream is a vortex, why is the ride while
inside the jet stream so smooth, James? Have you never ridden in an
airplane inside a jet stream, James? Is it just that your "sentient
jet stream / giant tornado monster with noodly appendages" likes its
back scratched by the aircraft, so it doesn't rip the aircraft to
shreds, Jim?

Do you not understand that once the air going upward through the
tornadic funnel reaches the cumulonimbus cloud base above the
mesocyclone, it spreads out, thus the tornado is strictly a phenomenon
which happens from cloud base to ground? It does *not* go from the
ground all the way up through the cloud to the tropopause as you
claim, James, and it most certainly does not continue for potentially
hundreds of miles in the upper troposphere to join the jet stream,
which would make air travel deadly.

Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if
the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado
being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James?

Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not?
That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is
it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity,
James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due
to lack of oxygen. So your claiming that convection doesn't exist
means you're further claiming that gravity does not exist, and fire
cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of
oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced
phenomenon due to density differential, James?

How does a hot air balloon rise, Jim? That's due to air density
differential due to temperature differential, is it not? That
less-dense air is convecting upward. Do you deny this, Jim? Is your
giant sentient sky tornado monster stretching one of its noodly
appendages down and gently lifting the hot air balloon, Jim?

How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma,
Jim?

Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James?

How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a
hypothetical construct in a failed attempt to lend your claims even a
semblance of plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and
dissociation energy of water are identical, and thus the water will
preferentially dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an
extremely energetic laser, Jim?

Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength,
extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except
photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above
the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the
troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim?

How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not
dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the
planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly
all the water is, and where all life is, Jim?

Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change
upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes
in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do
not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water
molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account
for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your
implausible claims are workable, Jim?
============================================================

Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

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#564190 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromSkeet <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-03-21 11:23 -0600
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<2fb0fbhj7qco3lsvjps3v1hhnmkrn9ttp4@4ax.com>
In reply to#564160
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:41:39 +0100 (CET), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:

>> Why is it you can't carry on a normal conversation, like a normal person?
>
>That's not an answer to those questions, Jim. You've yet again failed
>to mount a substantive defense of your fairy tale fabrication of a
>'theory'.



Irony meters explode across the globe.

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#564192 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

From"\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1>
Date2016-03-21 13:26 -0400
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<op.yeoqp2c4tm21m2@benson.localhost>
In reply to#564190
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 13:23:19 -0400, Skeet <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:41:39 +0100 (CET), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
> Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:
>
>>> Why is it you can't carry on a normal conversation, like a normal  
>>> person?
>>
>> That's not an answer to those questions, Jim. You've yet again failed
>> to mount a substantive defense of your fairy tale fabrication of a
>> 'theory'.
>
> Irony meters explode across the globe.

he's probably responsible for more irony meter damage than any single  
person in history.

it's like it's his job or something...

-- 
"sines, sines, everywhere there's sines
blocking up the snickerTurds, breaking his mind"
http://imgur.com/a/yMFsu

-

FNVWe attempts to rewrite physics texts in Message-ID:  
<3dcad3dd0a0d39727506717506883c26@dizum.com>

">>let's not forget that mine also had the correct applied mathematics
>> equations unlike fakey the supposed know-it-all:
>>  phase A: 120*sin(2*pi*60*x)
>> phase B: 120*sin(2*pi*60*x+pi)
>>  voltage difference between phase A and phase B at any point x in time:
>> 120*sin(2*pi*60*x) - 120*sin(2*pi*60*x+pi) = 240*sin(2*pi*60*x)

Wrong, as has already been proven. What does it say below, you fecking  
*moron*?

"The _sum_ E(θ) ≡ E(a) + E(b) can be written thusly:""

it says that you don't even know how to correctly apply mathematics to  
real-world AC electricity, snickerTurds.  it says that you're in denial  
about the inversion of your AC legs.

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-10/single-phase-power-systems/
http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/02170.png
"To mathematically calculate voltage between “hot” wires, we must subtract  
voltages, because their polarity marks show them to be opposed to each  
other:"
http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/12112.png

http://www.samlexamerica.com/support/documents/WhitePaper-120240VACSingleSplitPhaseandMultiWireBranchCircuits.pdf

on page 2:

** NOTE: The phase of Hot Leg 2 (Phase B) is in the
  opposite direction - i.e., 180° apart from the phase
  of Hot Leg L1 (Phase A)

*COUGH*
SPNAK!!

-

i know a guy on the internet who will draw a triangular sine wave in ASCII  
art if you ask nicely.</GROUCHO MARX>
see: Message-ID: <4ba4a50aaaebc7fb8a348293c5cf9f13@dizum.com>

-

snickerTurds can't seem to refute the following:

- begin snickerSinewaveStew.cpp --
/*
HOW TO RUN: download arbitrary precision libraries from:

http://www.hvks.com/Numerical/arbitrary_precision.html

place those files in a directory and save this file as  
snickerSinewaveStew.cpp inside that same directory.

compiles with:

gcc -Wall -I. precisioncore.cpp snickerSinewaveStew.cpp -lstdc++

run with:

./a.out

enjoy the LULZ ;)

*/
#include <fprecision.h>
#include <iostream.h>

using namespace std;

int main(){

   //float_precision MIN=float_precision(0);
   //float_precision MAX=float_precision(0);

   float_precision STEP=float_precision(.0001);
   float_precision t=float_precision(0);    // time variable
   float_precision sum=float_precision(0);  // sum of SnickerTurd's  
ridiculous sinewave mess
   float_precision snickerPrediction=float_precision(2550.25);  //  
snickerTurd's erroneous k0oK-k'lame Sum
   float_precision PI;
   PI =_float_table(_PI,25);

   // this while loop will run forever, but snickers doesn't understand why
   while(sum < snickerPrediction){

     // fakey's Sinewave Stew(TM) see: MID:  
<db672705e57e4932eba3632562e0a941@dizum.com>
     sum = (float_precision(150) * float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(120)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(20.25) * float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(33)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(1400)* float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(150)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +(float_precision(20)*  
float_precision(sin(float_precision(5013)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(600)*float_precision(sin(float_precision(13)*float_precision(2)*PI*t)))  
+  
(float_precision(360)*float_precision(sin(float_precision(1209)*float_precision(2)*PI*t)));

     // perhaps show a few values larger than +2300 to educate teh  
snickerTurds
     if(sum>float_precision(2300)){
       cout << "t=" << t << " sum=" << sum << std::endl;
     }
     t = t+STEP;
   }
/*

Message-ID: <c8523e6d9c31e3282bbe581fa525a2a8@dizum.com>
"Oh, yeah... it's 2550.25 volts... so why does your graph not even
reach 2500 volts, given that eventually all the sinewaves will
constructively interfere (ie: *add* to each other) to *sum* to 2550.25
volts?"

Fakey, it doesn't reach 2500 volts because the summation of your sinewaves  
never reaches that.  They never reach their max values at the same time.   
That's how stupid you are.

Message-ID: <731d08dcc702b9a8a13077ffc201e91f@dizum.com>
"I most certainly *did* prove otherwise. It can't even arrive at the
correct sinewave summation voltage of 2550.25 volts"

Fakey, you only *proved* that you are too inept to graph the equations and  
notice a few things about the interactions of their frequencies when  
summed.

the next line of code is never executed, but snickers DEFINITELY can't  
figure out why it isn't and instead has a bunch of lame excuses while  
still having not produced a value for t where the sum=2550.25, as he has  
k0okily proklamed in many usenet messages that are archived FOREVER.

*/
   cout << "snickerTurds was right! the sum is " << sum << " at time t=" <<  
t <<endl;
}
- end snickerSinewaveStew.cpp --

-

Fakey irrationally demands a theme song to foam to:
"all I really want your pathetic pwned ass to do is write me a classic  
rock song as tribute to your Usenet Lord and Master..."  
<f4f9193fa7d28b760a9de681e61427e7@dizum.com>

-

Somewhere Abouts Round Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:25:03 -0500, Friendly  
Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:

<snicker>

Fag. LOL
Idiot. LOL
Moron. LOL
Tranny. LOL
Libtard. LOL
Crackhead. LOL
GableTard. LOL
DildoRider. LOL
Bad Musician. LOL
Stick Figure. LOL
Terrible Liar. LOL
Sinewave Spammer. LOL
Outerfilthing Stalker. LOL
Talentless FrothMonkey. LOL
Math Challenged Halfwit. LOL
Klimate Katastrophe Kook. LOL
Defeated Tearful Spankard. LOL
Waster Of Time To Save $10. LOL
Worst Maker Of Sinewaves In The History Of Usenet. LOL

<the band strikes up a rousing version of "on top of old smokey">

on top of old snick-ers, all covered with Fag. LOL
is where my usenet lord and mas-ter
can go straight to hell*

*hell doesn't exist.  hope everybody is having a productive evening.

-

http://i.imgur.com/2tH6zVB.jpg

http://cafepress.com/kooktown

http://i.imgur.com/pnWqhSG.jpg

-

If my poasts are offensive to you, you can always block all From: headers  
containing "root@127.0.0.1", unless you are an idiot who would like to  
yammer about "morphing" and maybe try to lodge some frivolous complaints  
to my news provider, then please be sure to ignore this helpful  
information and have fun making an ass of yourself in public.  :)

if that route of silencing those horrid opinions of mine that you  
downloaded to your computer under duress doesn't work you can always try:  
http://i.imgur.com/jlsN9JX.png?2

-

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
The Gish Gallop is often used as an indirect argument from authority — as  
it appears to paint the galloper as an expert in a broad range of subjects  
or with an extensive knowledge of an individual one. Simultaneously it  
presents opponents (in spoken debates) or refuters (in written,  
Internet-based ones) as incompetent bumblers who didn't do their homework  
before the debate. Such emphasis on style over substance is the reason  
many scientists disdain public debates as a forum for disseminating  
opinions. - Page #1 from the Gospel of SnickerTurd

-

Coming soon!  To a newsgroup near you!:

$ perl fakeyBot.pl
FakeyBot>       I'm FakeyBot. What's your name so I can Google-stalk you,  
look you up on Radaris, and hurl invective and probably-illegal harrassing  
bile from behind an anonymous dizum account?  <snicker>
You>    Robert Michael Wolfe
FakeyBot>       Oh look, you're back again to polish my size 16 steel-toed  
boot with your colon and listen to me talk about bestiality and cocks,  
Robert. <snicker>
Robert> you talk about cocks a lot.
FakeyBot>       Oh, I talk about sex a lot?
Robert> gay sex, mostly...
FakeyBot>       Fag!

(just as useful as the original!)

-

snickers the wonderturd describes how he alerted lots of his kiddie pr0n  
friends to the ensuing FBI sting in message  
<b5e7da79a455d0c9227b1b50e25e7ea1@dizum.com>:
"That's easy enough to do... how do you think my crew uncovered the
largest CP ring using Tor and I2P, which we promptly turned over to
the FBI? I discovered a way to uncover the IP addresses the I2P users were  
using, and a way of tracking Eepsites back to their IP addresses, then we  
figured out that we could DDOS a Tor IP address and modify Tor headers  
while checking whether a Tor hidden service was still up, then using  
process of elimination to pinpoint the IP address hosting that hidden  
service. It's not rocket science.

_The I2P community got all up in arms when I discussed on their forum how  
I was doing it, and that it'd be a good way of cleaning up I2P so it can  
get on with being a platform to research anonymous communication... my  
distinct impression was that the "anonymity
research platform" story was just a cover story to allow pervs to
trade CP._  (NOTE: admits to participating in what he "suspected" was a  
kiddie pr0n network.)

That Silk Road 2.0 was taken offline in the ensuing FBI Operation
Onymous was just icing on the cake."

-

Golden Killfile, June 2005
KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016

 

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#564211 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-21 11:15 -0700
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<6cba9192-2a59-4fed-8a2e-3b4fd0f58c5c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#564160
On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 8:52:10 AM UTC-7, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

> >> Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?
> 
> > Why is it you can't carry on a normal conversation, like a normal person?
> 
> That's not an answer to those questions, Jim. 

You are just trying to divert attention from the fact that you lost the argument.

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#564373 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2016-03-22 05:26 +0100
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<13ca8c8bd1f8a19bee22d4f52b60ce46@dizum.com>
In reply to#564211
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

James McGinn, in
<news:6cba9192-2a59-4fed-8a2e-3b4fd0f58c5c@googlegroups.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 8:52:10 AM UTC-7,
> Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:

>>>> Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

>>> Why is it you can't carry on a normal conversation, like a normal person?

>> That's not an answer to those questions, Jim. 

> You are just trying to divert attention from the fact that you lost the argument.

You're projecting, James. Don't do that. It proves you've lost the
argument.

Why can't you get your psychosis through the peer review process,
James?

Why are there *no* corroborating studies to back your psychosis up,
James?

Why have you done *no* controlled experiments to back your psychosis
up, James?

Why is the entire world pointing and laughing at your psychosis,
James?

Why can't you substantively address those gaping logic holes I've
kicked in your psychosis, James?

-- 

Here, James, at the very least, try to address those tough questions
which spotlight the logical inconsistencies and contradictions
inherent in your "theory":

============================================================
Anders Nilsson measured (https://youtu.be/7hGqlEpvODw?t=2156) a
spectral peak that was not solid-phase nor liquid-phase water, James.
You claim that water remains liquid-phase upon evaporation. What was
Anders Nilsson measuring, James? Oh, that's right... gaseous phase
water, thereby proving that evaporation entails a phase change,
thereby proving latent heat of evaporation exists, thereby
*dis*proving a gigantic chunk of your theory, James.

You make a supposition that a "plasma not-a-plasma" is created from
water due to wind shear, which transports energy throughout the
atmosphere via wind driven by that plasma. Where does the energy come
from to create your "wind shear" to create your "plasma not-a-plasma"
if the "plasma not-a-plasma" cannot exist and thereby "transport
energy" by driving that wind to create the "wind shear" which creates
your "plasma not-a-plasma", unless there is "wind shear" to begin
with, James? Your logic is so twisted you're going in circles. You've
created a circulus in probando causality dilemma, which utterly
destroys your theory, James.

According to your "theory", electrostatic attraction *increases* with
distance (in violation of Coulomb's Law), which means that when an
electron falls in orbit, it has to *absorb* energy. And that higher
energy level somehow translates into a *weaker* electrostatic
attraction. Now let's look at the other side of the coin... the
electron in orbit would give off energy, rise in orbit, and somehow,
that *lower* energy level translates into a *stronger* electrostatic
attraction... how's *that* work, James? Explain how you've not just
violated the Law of Conservation of Energy on an atomic level.

How do your "jet stream vortices" travel potentially hundreds of miles
away from your "jet stream / giant tornado in the sky", without
detection by satellite *or* Doppler radar, and know where and when to
touch down so they always hit clouds, rather than tornadoes randomly
appearing out of the clear blue sky, James? Is your "jet stream /
giant tornado in the sky" sentient, James?

Go on, Jim, tell us... *why* is there a "boundary" between the
troposphere and the stratosphere... we're waiting, Jim... No answer,
Jim? Is it because that's where your "sentient jet stream / giant
tornado monster with noodly appendages" lives, and it likes it that
way, Jim? Do you need your meds, Jim?

If, as you claim, the jet stream is a vortex, why is the ride while
inside the jet stream so smooth, James? Have you never ridden in an
airplane inside a jet stream, James? Is it just that your "sentient
jet stream / giant tornado monster with noodly appendages" likes its
back scratched by the aircraft, so it doesn't rip the aircraft to
shreds, Jim?

Do you not understand that once the air going upward through the
tornadic funnel reaches the cumulonimbus cloud base above the
mesocyclone, it spreads out, thus the tornado is strictly a phenomenon
which happens from cloud base to ground? It does *not* go from the
ground all the way up through the cloud to the tropopause as you
claim, James, and it most certainly does not continue for potentially
hundreds of miles in the upper troposphere to join the jet stream,
which would make air travel deadly.

Explain why the jets run easterly, whereas the dry line runs N-S, if
the jets are powering the creation of tornadoes. How is a tornado
being created hundreds of miles from the edge of the jets, James?

Which direction does air flow from a flame, Jim? Up, does it not?
That's convection due to temperature-induced density differential, is
it not? Which direction does air flow from a flame in zero gravity,
James? Radially in all directions, thereby snuffing out the flame due
to lack of oxygen. So your claiming that convection doesn't exist
means you're further claiming that gravity does not exist, and fire
cannot burn for very long before it is smothered due to lack of
oxygen. Or were you not aware that convection is a gravity-induced
phenomenon due to density differential, James?

How does a hot air balloon rise, Jim? That's due to air density
differential due to temperature differential, is it not? That
less-dense air is convecting upward. Do you deny this, Jim? Is your
giant sentient sky tornado monster stretching one of its noodly
appendages down and gently lifting the hot air balloon, Jim?

How are your atmospheric "water droplets" forming if they're plasma,
Jim?

Do you not know what the definition of "plasma" is, James?

How is your "plasma not-a-plasma" (which you have admitted is a
hypothetical construct in a failed attempt to lend your claims even a
semblance of plausibility) forming if the nuclear binding energy and
dissociation energy of water are identical, and thus the water will
preferentially dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen unless hit with an
extremely energetic laser, Jim?

Where is the energy (equivalent to photons of 103.32 nm wavelength,
extremely strong ultraviolet, just 3.32 nm away from x-rays... except
photons with shorter wavelength than 121 nm are absorbed high above
the troposphere because they ionize air so well) coming from in the
troposphere to form your "plasma not-a-plasma", Jim?

How is the energy to plasmize your "plasma not-a-plasma" not
dissociating all water on the planet and killing all life on the
planet given that the energy *must* be in the troposphere where nearly
all the water is, and where all life is, Jim?

Now that it's been proven that water molecule polarity doesn't change
upon H bonding (which would have side effects such as random changes
in the solvent properties of water... and we know those properties do
not randomly change, Jim), and in fact the two spin isomers of water
molecules account for the different H bonding strengths which account
for evaporation and condensation, do you still contend that your
implausible claims are workable, Jim?
============================================================

Why can't you answer those questions, Jim?

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#563828 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

From"\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1>
Date2016-03-20 02:53 -0400
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<op.yel2rb15tm21m2@benson.localhost>
In reply to#563826
On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 02:39:25 -0400, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler  
Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:

> Time to make up a plausible lie by running away from those tough
> questions again.


-- 
"sines, sines, everywhere there's sines
blocking up the snickerTurds, breaking his mind"
http://imgur.com/a/yMFsu

-

FNVWe attempts to rewrite physics texts in Message-ID:  
<3dcad3dd0a0d39727506717506883c26@dizum.com>

">>let's not forget that mine also had the correct applied mathematics
>> equations unlike fakey the supposed know-it-all:
>>  phase A: 120*sin(2*pi*60*x)
>> phase B: 120*sin(2*pi*60*x+pi)
>>  voltage difference between phase A and phase B at any point x in time:
>> 120*sin(2*pi*60*x) - 120*sin(2*pi*60*x+pi) = 240*sin(2*pi*60*x)

Wrong, as has already been proven. What does it say below, you fecking  
*moron*?

"The _sum_ E(θ) ≡ E(a) + E(b) can be written thusly:""

it says that you don't even know how to correctly apply mathematics to  
real-world AC electricity, snickerTurds.  it says that you're in denial  
about the inversion of your AC legs.

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-10/single-phase-power-systems/
http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/02170.png
"To mathematically calculate voltage between “hot” wires, we must subtract  
voltages, because their polarity marks show them to be opposed to each  
other:"
http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/12112.png

http://www.samlexamerica.com/support/documents/WhitePaper-120240VACSingleSplitPhaseandMultiWireBranchCircuits.pdf

on page 2:

** NOTE: The phase of Hot Leg 2 (Phase B) is in the
  opposite direction - i.e., 180° apart from the phase
  of Hot Leg L1 (Phase A)

*COUGH*
SPNAK!!

-

i know a guy on the internet who will draw a triangular sine wave in ASCII  
art if you ask nicely.</GROUCHO MARX>
see: Message-ID: <4ba4a50aaaebc7fb8a348293c5cf9f13@dizum.com>

-

snickerTurds can't seem to refute the following:

- begin snickerSinewaveStew.cpp --
/*
HOW TO RUN: download arbitrary precision libraries from:

http://www.hvks.com/Numerical/arbitrary_precision.html

place those files in a directory and save this file as  
snickerSinewaveStew.cpp inside that same directory.

compiles with:

gcc -Wall -I. precisioncore.cpp snickerSinewaveStew.cpp -lstdc++

run with:

./a.out

enjoy the LULZ ;)

*/
#include <fprecision.h>
#include <iostream.h>

using namespace std;

int main(){

   //float_precision MIN=float_precision(0);
   //float_precision MAX=float_precision(0);

   float_precision STEP=float_precision(.0001);
   float_precision t=float_precision(0);    // time variable
   float_precision sum=float_precision(0);  // sum of SnickerTurd's  
ridiculous sinewave mess
   float_precision snickerPrediction=float_precision(2550.25);  //  
snickerTurd's erroneous k0oK-k'lame Sum
   float_precision PI;
   PI =_float_table(_PI,25);

   // this while loop will run forever, but snickers doesn't understand why
   while(sum < snickerPrediction){

     // fakey's Sinewave Stew(TM) see: MID:  
<db672705e57e4932eba3632562e0a941@dizum.com>
     sum = (float_precision(150) * float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(120)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(20.25) * float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(33)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(1400)* float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(150)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +(float_precision(20)*  
float_precision(sin(float_precision(5013)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(600)*float_precision(sin(float_precision(13)*float_precision(2)*PI*t)))  
+  
(float_precision(360)*float_precision(sin(float_precision(1209)*float_precision(2)*PI*t)));

     // perhaps show a few values larger than +2300 to educate teh  
snickerTurds
     if(sum>float_precision(2300)){
       cout << "t=" << t << " sum=" << sum << std::endl;
     }
     t = t+STEP;
   }
/*

Message-ID: <c8523e6d9c31e3282bbe581fa525a2a8@dizum.com>
"Oh, yeah... it's 2550.25 volts... so why does your graph not even
reach 2500 volts, given that eventually all the sinewaves will
constructively interfere (ie: *add* to each other) to *sum* to 2550.25
volts?"

Fakey, it doesn't reach 2500 volts because the summation of your sinewaves  
never reaches that.  They never reach their max values at the same time.   
That's how stupid you are.

Message-ID: <731d08dcc702b9a8a13077ffc201e91f@dizum.com>
"I most certainly *did* prove otherwise. It can't even arrive at the
correct sinewave summation voltage of 2550.25 volts"

Fakey, you only *proved* that you are too inept to graph the equations and  
notice a few things about the interactions of their frequencies when  
summed.

the next line of code is never executed, but snickers DEFINITELY can't  
figure out why it isn't and instead has a bunch of lame excuses while  
still having not produced a value for t where the sum=2550.25, as he has  
k0okily proklamed in many usenet messages that are archived FOREVER.

*/
   cout << "snickerTurds was right! the sum is " << sum << " at time t=" <<  
t <<endl;
}
- end snickerSinewaveStew.cpp --

-

Fakey irrationally demands a theme song to foam to:
"all I really want your pathetic pwned ass to do is write me a classic  
rock song as tribute to your Usenet Lord and Master..."  
<f4f9193fa7d28b760a9de681e61427e7@dizum.com>

-

Somewhere Abouts Round Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:25:03 -0500, Friendly  
Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:

<snicker>

Fag. LOL
Idiot. LOL
Moron. LOL
Tranny. LOL
Libtard. LOL
Crackhead. LOL
GableTard. LOL
DildoRider. LOL
Bad Musician. LOL
Stick Figure. LOL
Terrible Liar. LOL
Sinewave Spammer. LOL
Outerfilthing Stalker. LOL
Talentless FrothMonkey. LOL
Math Challenged Halfwit. LOL
Klimate Katastrophe Kook. LOL
Defeated Tearful Spankard. LOL
Waster Of Time To Save $10. LOL
Worst Maker Of Sinewaves In The History Of Usenet. LOL

<the band strikes up a rousing version of "on top of old smokey">

on top of old snick-ers, all covered with Fag. LOL
is where my usenet lord and mas-ter
can go straight to hell*

*hell doesn't exist.  hope everybody is having a productive evening.

-

http://i.imgur.com/2tH6zVB.jpg

http://cafepress.com/kooktown

http://i.imgur.com/pnWqhSG.jpg

-

If my poasts are offensive to you, you can always block all From: headers  
containing "root@127.0.0.1", unless you are an idiot who would like to  
yammer about "morphing" and maybe try to lodge some frivolous complaints  
to my news provider, then please be sure to ignore this helpful  
information and have fun making an ass of yourself in public.  :)

if that route of silencing those horrid opinions of mine that you  
downloaded to your computer under duress doesn't work you can always try:  
http://i.imgur.com/jlsN9JX.png?2

-

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
The Gish Gallop is often used as an indirect argument from authority — as  
it appears to paint the galloper as an expert in a broad range of subjects  
or with an extensive knowledge of an individual one. Simultaneously it  
presents opponents (in spoken debates) or refuters (in written,  
Internet-based ones) as incompetent bumblers who didn't do their homework  
before the debate. Such emphasis on style over substance is the reason  
many scientists disdain public debates as a forum for disseminating  
opinions. - Page #1 from the Gospel of SnickerTurd

-

Coming soon!  To a newsgroup near you!:

$ perl fakeyBot.pl
FakeyBot>       I'm FakeyBot. What's your name so I can Google-stalk you,  
look you up on Radaris, and hurl invective and probably-illegal harrassing  
bile from behind an anonymous dizum account?  <snicker>
You>    Robert Michael Wolfe
FakeyBot>       Oh look, you're back again to polish my size 16 steel-toed  
boot with your colon and listen to me talk about bestiality and cocks,  
Robert. <snicker>
Robert> you talk about cocks a lot.
FakeyBot>       Oh, I talk about sex a lot?
Robert> gay sex, mostly...
FakeyBot>       Fag!

(just as useful as the original!)

-

snickers the wonderturd describes how he alerted lots of his kiddie pr0n  
friends to the ensuing FBI sting in message  
<b5e7da79a455d0c9227b1b50e25e7ea1@dizum.com>:
"That's easy enough to do... how do you think my crew uncovered the
largest CP ring using Tor and I2P, which we promptly turned over to
the FBI? I discovered a way to uncover the IP addresses the I2P users were  
using, and a way of tracking Eepsites back to their IP addresses, then we  
figured out that we could DDOS a Tor IP address and modify Tor headers  
while checking whether a Tor hidden service was still up, then using  
process of elimination to pinpoint the IP address hosting that hidden  
service. It's not rocket science.

_The I2P community got all up in arms when I discussed on their forum how  
I was doing it, and that it'd be a good way of cleaning up I2P so it can  
get on with being a platform to research anonymous communication... my  
distinct impression was that the "anonymity
research platform" story was just a cover story to allow pervs to
trade CP._  (NOTE: admits to participating in what he "suspected" was a  
kiddie pr0n network.)

That Silk Road 2.0 was taken offline in the ensuing FBI Operation
Onymous was just icing on the cake."

-

Golden Killfile, June 2005
KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016

 

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#563833 — Re: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --

FromSkeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-03-20 01:28 -0600
SubjectRe: The Thought Police Have Declared Water "Well Understood." -- Politics of Water Science --
Message-ID<a8ksebdkb98os5pkjcvbvfttskvlhpk24m@4ax.com>
In reply to#563826
On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 07:39:25 +0100 (CET), Friendly Neighborhood Vote
Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:

>> You didn't answer my question.
>
>I most certainly did, and in the process, I proved your moronic
>"theory" is a sham, a fraud, a fabrication told by a deluded moron too
>stupid to make up a plausible lie.

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