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What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth’s atmosphere right above the ground to space?

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  What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth’s atmosphere right above the ground to space? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 08:26 -0500
    Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth’s atmosphere right above the ground to space? gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-15 10:51 -0500
      Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth’s atmosphere right above the ground to space? gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-15 17:08 -0500
      Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 15:29 -0700
        Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space? benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:57 -0400
        Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 12:53 -0700
          Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-09-16 13:07 -0700
        Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:27 -0700
    Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth’s atmosphere right above the ground to space? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-15 17:45 +0000
    Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 15:11 -0700
      Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 14:13 -0700
        Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 14:21 -0700
          Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 16:42 -0700
            Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 23:11 -0700
              Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space? noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 11:22 -0700
              Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 11:29 -0700

#521257 — What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth’s atmosphere right above the ground to space?

What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth’s 
atmosphere right above the ground to space?
> http://www.askamathematician.com/2014/11/q-what-would-happen-if-there-was-a-giant-straw-connecting-the-earths-atmosphere-right-above-the-ground-to-space/


> Physicist: About the same thing that happens to a straw in a glass of
> water: the water level in the straw evens out with the water level
> outside.
>
> A tube from the ground to space would fill with air of about the same
> density and pressure as the air around the straw, decreasing as you
> go up until eventually you have a straw full of nothing surrounded by
> also nothing (in space).
>
> What holds the atmosphere to the planet is gravity, so if a patch of
> air tries to drift off into space it literally falls back.  A straw
> alone wouldn’t change that.  On the other hand, if you attached some
> kind of pump to the bottom of the straw to make it have a higher
> pressure than sea-level, then you could pump air up the straw and
> have some kind of massive space-fountain of air (the air coming out
> would fall back to Earth just like water in an ordinary fountain).
> In fact!  There is a situation very close to that happening on
> Saturn’s moon, Enceladus.
>


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#521291

On 9/15/2015 8:26 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth’s
> atmosphere right above the ground to space?


  On the other hand, if you attached some
>> kind of pump to the bottom of the straw to make it have a higher
>> pressure than sea-level, then you could pump air up the straw and
>> have some kind of massive space-fountain of air (the air coming out
>> would fall back to Earth just like water in an ordinary fountain).
>> In fact!  There is a situation very close to that happening on
>> Saturn’s moon, Enceladus.
>>
>
>
  Extra point question:  How Thick does the straw have to be to survive 
the water pressure to get water out of the top of the straw, if it has 
1/2 inch hole, extends 6 miles up, and how much pressure will the pump 
have to have?  (assume pump and straw submerged 100 feet.)

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#521362

On 9/15/2015 10:51 AM, gilber34 wrote:
> On 9/15/2015 8:26 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth’s
>> atmosphere right above the ground to space?
>
>
>   On the other hand, if you attached some
>>> kind of pump to the bottom of the straw to make it have a higher
>>> pressure than sea-level, then you could pump air up the straw and
>>> have some kind of massive space-fountain of air (the air coming out
>>> would fall back to Earth just like water in an ordinary fountain).
>>> In fact!  There is a situation very close to that happening on
>>> Saturn’s moon, Enceladus.
>>>
>>
>>
>   Extra point question:  How Thick does the straw have to be to survive
> the water pressure to get water out of the top of the straw, if it has
> 1/2 inch hole, extends 6 miles up, and how much pressure will the pump
> have to have?  (assume pump and straw submerged 100 feet.)

6 miles * 5280 feet/mi = 31,680

1 foot = 0.433 psi

so 6 mile straw full of water has 13,717 psi at the bottom

How thick does the plastic have to be ?

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#521366 — Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space?

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 8:51:41 AM UTC-7, gilber34 wrote:
> On 9/15/2015 8:26 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's
> > atmosphere right above the ground to space?
> 
> 
>   On the other hand, if you attached some
> >> kind of pump to the bottom of the straw to make it have a higher
> >> pressure than sea-level, then you could pump air up the straw and
> >> have some kind of massive space-fountain of air (the air coming out
> >> would fall back to Earth just like water in an ordinary fountain).
> >> In fact!  There is a situation very close to that happening on
> >> Saturn's moon, Enceladus.
> >>
> >
> >
>   Extra point question:  How Thick does the straw have to be to survive 
> the water pressure to get water out of the top of the straw, if it has 
> 1/2 inch hole, extends 6 miles up, and how much pressure will the pump 
> have to have?  (assume pump and straw submerged 100 feet.)

Apace having 0 pressure would have air flowing into space.It would suck it up.A vacuum is a very strong force. TreBert

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#521372 — Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space?

On 09/15/2015 06:29 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 8:51:41 AM UTC-7, gilber34 wrote:
>> On 9/15/2015 8:26 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's
>>> atmosphere right above the ground to space?
>>
>>
>>    On the other hand, if you attached some
>>>> kind of pump to the bottom of the straw to make it have a higher
>>>> pressure than sea-level, then you could pump air up the straw and
>>>> have some kind of massive space-fountain of air (the air coming out
>>>> would fall back to Earth just like water in an ordinary fountain).
>>>> In fact!  There is a situation very close to that happening on
>>>> Saturn's moon, Enceladus.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>    Extra point question:  How Thick does the straw have to be to survive
>> the water pressure to get water out of the top of the straw, if it has
>> 1/2 inch hole, extends 6 miles up, and how much pressure will the pump
>> have to have?  (assume pump and straw submerged 100 feet.)
>
> Apace having 0 pressure would have air flowing into space.It would suck it up.A vacuum is a very strong force. TreBert

Vacuum has no force. Ask Sam to explain it to you.



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#521493 — Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space?

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 3:29:32 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 8:51:41 AM UTC-7, gilber34 wrote:
> > On 9/15/2015 8:26 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's
> > > atmosphere right above the ground to space?
> > 
> > 
> >   On the other hand, if you attached some
> > >> kind of pump to the bottom of the straw to make it have a higher
> > >> pressure than sea-level, then you could pump air up the straw and
> > >> have some kind of massive space-fountain of air (the air coming out
> > >> would fall back to Earth just like water in an ordinary fountain).
> > >> In fact!  There is a situation very close to that happening on
> > >> Saturn's moon, Enceladus.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >   Extra point question:  How Thick does the straw have to be to survive 
> > the water pressure to get water out of the top of the straw, if it has 
> > 1/2 inch hole, extends 6 miles up, and how much pressure will the pump 
> > have to have?  (assume pump and straw submerged 100 feet.)
> 
> Apace having 0 pressure would have air flowing into space.It would suck it up.A vacuum is a very strong force. TreBert

benji If only you had some wit.TreBert

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#521497 — Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space?

<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> Glazier the Swine "reber g=emc^2" wrote:
> gilber34 wrote:
>> Sam Wormley wrote:
> 
Glazier the Cretin wrote:
> benji If only you had some wit.TreBert
>
hanson wrote:
Glazier, "gilber34" or "Womley" is NOT "Benji".
But here is what "Benj"and "Womley" said about your "wit":
>
>"benj" <nobody@gmail.com> Jacoby Ben, MSc wrote:
One only has to read Glazier's posts to see when Bert was lobotomized.
>
Glazier's ex-tutor Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
Glazier, your brain is entangles with a used garbage can.
Glazier, "Its a shame"  that your science is far worse
than the man's on the street.
Glazier, your postings are old man's garbage.
reber, take your you know it all thinking to your grave .
reber, your horseshit gets old.Say hi to Allah for me.
reber, you don't believe in science.
Glazier, do not post in a science newsgroup.
Glazier, quit posting __ your Gutter Science__.
Glazier, exit USENET. -- IOW Glazier, beat it!
>
"Mahipal" <mahipal7638@gmail.com> wrote:
Glazier, you are babbling desperately. Is it sympathy 
or pity you're grasping for? Stop it, either way.
>
Jim Pennino jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Glazier, you are a spamming piece of shit...
>
Astrophysicist "Saul Levy" <saullevy1@cox.net> wrote:
GLAZIER YOU ARE A LAMEbrain PIECE OF SHIT!
Saul Levy
>
Moderator General "HVAC" <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Harlow Campbell succinctly added & wrote:
>
"TreBert, you are one stupid cocksucker".
"Bert, Seriously. You are the stupidest cocksucking
moron who ever came down the Mass Pike.
"Bert, does your stupidity know no bounds?"
"Bert, you really are a pathetic excuse for a human
fucking being". "Bert is a racist. (And he's stupid too)"
"Bert, are the stupidest cocksucker on the planet."
"Spin THIS, Glazier, you fucking idiot." "Bert get
some spelling lessons, you feeble-minded fuck".
"Bert, your opinion doesn't count"
"Bert you are an idiot."
"Bert, you are a clueless cocksucker .... and "Bert
you are senile, dazed & confused. Fucked in the head.
"a trained cockroach is smarter than Bert"
"Bert, you should be arrested"
"Bert, I will call the police and tell them that your
van seems to be a center for drug activity in the
Wal-Mart parking lot"....
>
hanson wrote:
So Glazier you filthy Swine, given that the police is aware
that YOU issued criminal threats to some of the above 
posters with your intent to shit into their mouths and 
piss onto their graves, ... and then you being the criminal
offender blaming your victims, the ones you offended, 
for your criminal acts, ... what did the cops say to you 
when you made the local police "aware" that....
>
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> :B::ert Glazier, the Swine,
Hate filled War monger, Jewish Jailbird, Face-shitter and
Graveyard Vandal, Thief, Racist, Bigot & Criminal Communist
Traitor Sympathizer "reber g=emc^2" introduced himself
as/with
>
:B:: "I am a proud Jew with a Superiority complex &
:B:: an IQ of 122", & "I do know how everything works,.."
:B:: "Being Jewish I know this is so very true" -- Bert.
:B:: "I'm a non-bible(torra) Jew I'm the only Jew that
:B:: got 2 letters from two Popes". Bert
:B:: "I'm M&M's Clueless Fuck-faced turd".Bert.
:B:: "I gave G=EMC^2 (wrong & stolen) to the world"
:B:: "Israel will drop its first H-bomb 'David' ". TreBert
:B:: __"I'm glad when war breaks out"__ Bert
:B:: "I'll be sitting on Benj's, Saul Levi's & HVAC's
:B:: face to take a shit & say: "Open your mouth wide".
:B:: "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And laugh".
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
:B:: "Even the FBI has me as a trouble maker and
:B:: the FBI blocks my phone from calling them. "....
:B:: cuz "I was mixing sulfur,carbon & iron together
:B:: to make gun powder" ....
>
>
<http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy>
for <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier>.



.

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#521681 — Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space?

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 3:29:32 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 8:51:41 AM UTC-7, gilber34 wrote:
> > On 9/15/2015 8:26 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's
> > > atmosphere right above the ground to space?
> > 
> > 
> >   On the other hand, if you attached some
> > >> kind of pump to the bottom of the straw to make it have a higher
> > >> pressure than sea-level, then you could pump air up the straw and
> > >> have some kind of massive space-fountain of air (the air coming out
> > >> would fall back to Earth just like water in an ordinary fountain).
> > >> In fact!  There is a situation very close to that happening on
> > >> Saturn's moon, Enceladus.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >   Extra point question:  How Thick does the straw have to be to survive 
> > the water pressure to get water out of the top of the straw, if it has 
> > 1/2 inch hole, extends 6 miles up, and how much pressure will the pump 
> > have to have?  (assume pump and straw submerged 100 feet.)
> 
> Apace having 0 pressure would have air flowing into space.It would suck it up.A vacuum is a very strong force. TreBert

Its a vacuum that gives a tornado its great force.Its a vacuum that gives lift to a plane.Its a vacuum that can pull a sail.Air going across a curved surface does the trick.TreBert

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#521310

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth?s 
> atmosphere right above the ground to space?

Obviously nothing, spamming shit head.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#521363 — Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space?

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 6:26:45 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's 
> atmosphere right above the ground to space?
> >
> > What holds the atmosphere to the planet is gravity, so if a patch of
> > air tries to drift off into space it literally falls back.  A straw
> > alone wouldn't change that.  On the other hand, if you attached some
> > kind of pump to the bottom of the straw to make it have a higher
> > pressure than sea-level, then you could pump air up the straw and
> > have some kind of massive space-fountain of air (the air coming out
> > would fall back to Earth just like water in an ordinary fountain).
> > In fact!  There is a situation very close to that happening on
> > Saturn's moon, Enceladus.

  You keep posting about things that were covered in science fiction decades ago:

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=2235


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#521514 — Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space?

there seems to be a prevalent meme amonst rrthers,
a belief in a thing called gravity, even though
their *O*, in these matters, was Kid newtoN

> > > What holds the atmosphere to the planet is gravity, so if a patch of
> > > air tries to drift off into space it literally falls back.  A straw
> > > alone wouldn't change that.  On the other hand, if you attached some
> > > kind of pump to the bottom of the straw to make it have a higher
> > > pressure than sea-level, then you could pump air up the straw and
> > > have some kind of massive space-fountain of air (the air coming out
> > > would fall back to Earth just like water in an ordinary fountain).
> > > In fact!  There is a situation very close to that happening on
> > > Saturn's moon, Enceladus.
> 
>   You keep posting about things that were covered in science fiction decades ago:
> 
> http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=2235
> 
> 
>   Mark L. Fergerson

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#521713 — Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space?

On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 2:13:26 PM UTC-7, noTthaTguY wrote:
> there seems to be a prevalent meme amonst rrthers,
> a belief in a thing called gravity, even though
> their *O*, in these matters, was Kid newtoN
> 
> > > > What holds the atmosphere to the planet is gravity, so if a patch of
> > > > air tries to drift off into space it literally falls back.  A straw
> > > > alone wouldn't change that.  On the other hand, if you attached some
> > > > kind of pump to the bottom of the straw to make it have a higher
> > > > pressure than sea-level, then you could pump air up the straw and
> > > > have some kind of massive space-fountain of air (the air coming out
> > > > would fall back to Earth just like water in an ordinary fountain).
> > > > In fact!  There is a situation very close to that happening on
> > > > Saturn's moon, Enceladus.
> > 
> >   You keep posting about things that were covered in science fiction
> > decades ago:
> > 
> > http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=2235

  The shortstack worked(!) via buoyancy. Push gravity notoriously has trouble with buoyancy.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#521740 — Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space?

aye, buoyancy; what is a shortstack

>   The shortstack worked(!) via buoyancy. Push gravity notoriously has trouble with buoyancy.
> 
> 
>   Mark L. Fergerson

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#521785 — Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space?

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 4:42:16 PM UTC-7, noTthaTguY wrote:
> aye, buoyancy; what is a shortstack

  Stop snipping what you reply to and you will find out:

http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.technovelgy.com%2Fct%2Fcontent.asp%3FBnum%3D2235&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGfo3OUdNNlioNg_HlXTGdyFLv_eg


  Mark L. Fergerson

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#521834 — Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space?

I don't do webpages;
I am just a dyscussant;
it you don't want to say, in a few words, fine

>   Stop snipping what you reply to and you will find out:
> 
> http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.technovelgy.com%2Fct%2Fcontent.asp%3FBnum%3D2235&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGfo3OUdNNlioNg_HlXTGdyFLv_eg
> 
> 
>   Mark L. Fergerson

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#521836 — Re: What would happen if there was a giant straw connecting the Earth's atmosphere right above the ground to space?

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 11:11:12 PM UTC-7, nu...@bid.nes wrote:
> On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 4:42:16 PM UTC-7, noTthaTguY wrote:
> > aye, buoyancy; what is a shortstack
> 
>   Stop snipping what you reply to and you will find out:
> 
> http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.technovelgy.com%2Fct%2Fcontent.asp%3FBnum%3D2235&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGfo3OUdNNlioNg_HlXTGdyFLv_eg
> 
> 
>   Mark L. Fergerson

Bouyancy is a very strong up force.It needs no waves to create this force.However when gravity creates more weight like iron if its heavier it falls.Keep in mind gravity gives water its weight. All my sailboats are made as light and strong as possible.Not one part is as heavy as water and that inclodes me. TreBert

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