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| First post | 2016-02-18 09:55 -0800 |
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Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 09:55 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn dm <pippinese@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:29 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:39 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-18 12:47 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:54 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn pippinese@gmail.com - 2016-02-18 11:04 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 11:09 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-18 15:06 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 13:12 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 13:55 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-18 17:01 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 12:42 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 09:07 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 09:28 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 09:37 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-19 17:55 +0000
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn dm <pippinese@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:14 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:41 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-19 19:57 +0000
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 13:17 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn dm <pippinese@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 13:33 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-02-19 13:56 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 16:02 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-19 21:54 +0000
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 14:25 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-19 17:11 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 15:16 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-19 18:07 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 16:13 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-20 00:49 +0000
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 17:17 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Claudius Denk <claudiusdenk@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 16:03 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 14:31 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:39 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 11:59 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 15:57 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-18 20:25 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 19:02 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-18 21:51 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 20:04 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-18 22:36 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 20:42 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 20:54 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-19 10:20 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 20:33 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:43 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-19 13:13 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 23:47 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-20 10:30 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 00:03 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn dm <pippinese@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 08:08 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 13:22 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-20 17:08 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-02-20 18:27 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 07:45 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 09:38 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-06 11:50 -0600
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 09:53 -0800
Re: Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-06 15:06 -0600
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 09:55 -0800 |
| Subject | Explanations That Everyone in the Scientific Community Accepts EXCEPT James McGinn |
| Message-ID | <4bf33dcc-9c34-49b8-8761-77455001b555@googlegroups.com> |
DM: It would be an interesting exercise to list phenomena with scientific explanations that everyone in the scientific community accepts EXCEPT McGinn. There are at least four I can think of off the top of my head from his recent pontifications (gaseous H20 below the boiling point, latent heat, convection as a mechanism for thunderstorm formation, and the Hadley cell as the explanation for jet stream formation). Are there others? James McGinn: The following things meteorology accepts but I say are nonsense: Gaseous H2O boiling point of H2O Latent heat as playing a role in atmospheric flow Convection as mechanism for thunderstorm formation Hadley Cell as the explanation for jet stream formation Here are some additional "myths" of meteorology: That dry warm air can act as a cap to upwelling air That the energy of storms comes from upwelling, moist air (I say it comes from low pressure delivered by jet streams and their tributaries from above That Upwelling moist air can cause the widespread low pressure of storms (I say it is caused by jet streams) Here are some videos you should watch to better understand my arguments and if you are new to meteorology this will help you better understand their arguments: Why Meteorologists Maintain Dumb Explanations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-1p1rJp1x4 H2O Surface Tension and Tornadoes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q7zT-26BYQ Surface Tension, Jet Streams, Storms and the Twisted Truth of Meteorology https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6GZEn7N7Ss Convection Versus Plasma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwSyalcoRAk Alternative to Spiritualistic Thinking in the Atmospheric Sciences https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dexlOvP7mPw
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| From | dm <pippinese@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 10:29 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <89bdafe9-cf6e-41f7-9f7f-8a3e8db534e1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554299 |
I had envisioned this as a means of establishing the breadth and depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific methodologies. I should have anticipated that he would view this as a positive aspect of his "work." Oh well...
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 10:39 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <fb3db81c-a917-4a34-be86-01f155d5c867@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554311 |
On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:29:29 AM UTC-8, dm wrote: > I had envisioned this as a means of establishing the breadth and depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific methodologies. I should have anticipated that he would view this as a positive aspect of his "work." Oh well... Right. I view this as an opportunity to explicate meteorological dumbness.
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 12:47 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <na53kk$jn0$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #554311 |
On 2/18/2016 12:29 PM, dm wrote: > I had envisioned this as a means of establishing the breadth and > depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific > methodologies. I should have anticipated that he would view this as a > positive aspect of his "work." Oh well... > it is all positive, We should be grateful to be able to witness the brilliance, creation, and birth of a new field of "Corrected Meteorology" by Mr. J. McGinn. He may seem abrasive at times, but this is the new physics, without the burdens of math, and old stale, stuck thinking. We have to move-on past that, it is too hard to learn anyway, too complicated. We are planning to have a meetup at http://www.bronycon.org/ and instruct as many as we can to spread the word.
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 10:54 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <bb6a29fc-fa06-441b-94d8-997af88d4e87@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554316 |
On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:47:58 AM UTC-8, Sergio wrote: > On 2/18/2016 12:29 PM, dm wrote: > > I had envisioned this as a means of establishing the breadth and > > depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific > > methodologies. I should have anticipated that he would view this as a > > positive aspect of his "work." Oh well... > > > > it is all positive, > > We should be grateful to be able to witness the brilliance, creation, > and birth of a new field of "Corrected Meteorology" by Mr. J. McGinn. And to think, I'm just getting started.
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| From | pippinese@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 11:04 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1cfa95fc-c7fa-4b51-b0f7-a8ce4f528614@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554319 |
On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:54:49 PM UTC-5, James McGinn wrote: > On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:47:58 AM UTC-8, Sergio wrote: > > On 2/18/2016 12:29 PM, dm wrote: > > > I had envisioned this as a means of establishing the breadth and > > > depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific > > > methodologies. I should have anticipated that he would view this as a > > > positive aspect of his "work." Oh well... > > > > > > > it is all positive, > > > > We should be grateful to be able to witness the brilliance, creation, > > and birth of a new field of "Corrected Meteorology" by Mr. J. McGinn. > > And to think, I'm just getting started. I stand corrected. This is perfectly demonstrating the breadth and depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific methodologies. Thanks for the perspective, Sergio.
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 11:09 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9d7ad2a0-432d-4ca3-8b99-4f67f73358cf@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554320 |
On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:04:19 AM UTC-8, pipp...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:54:49 PM UTC-5, James McGinn wrote: > > On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:47:58 AM UTC-8, Sergio wrote: > > > On 2/18/2016 12:29 PM, dm wrote: > > > > I had envisioned this as a means of establishing the breadth and > > > > depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific > > > > methodologies. I should have anticipated that he would view this as a > > > > positive aspect of his "work." Oh well... > > > > > > > > > > it is all positive, > > > > > > We should be grateful to be able to witness the brilliance, creation, > > > and birth of a new field of "Corrected Meteorology" by Mr. J. McGinn. > > > > And to think, I'm just getting started. > > I stand corrected. This is perfectly demonstrating the breadth and depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific methodologies. Thanks for the perspective, Sergio. You church ladies don't have an argument. Science is about facts. If you can't confront facts you are just a believer. Believers are the fodder of scientific progress.
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 15:06 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <na5bq4$11k9$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #554322 |
On 2/18/2016 1:09 PM, James McGinn wrote: > On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:04:19 AM UTC-8, > pipp...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:54:49 PM UTC-5, James McGinn >> wrote: >>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:47:58 AM UTC-8, Sergio >>> wrote: >>>> On 2/18/2016 12:29 PM, dm wrote: >>>>> I had envisioned this as a means of establishing the breadth >>>>> and depth of his ignorance about existing science and >>>>> scientific methodologies. I should have anticipated that he >>>>> would view this as a positive aspect of his "work." Oh >>>>> well... >>>> >>>> it is all positive, >>>> >>>> We should be grateful to be able to witness the brilliance, >>>> creation, and birth of a new field of "Corrected Meteorology" >>>> by Mr. J. McGinn. >>> >>> And to think, I'm just getting started. >> >> I stand corrected. This is perfectly demonstrating the breadth and >> depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific >> methodologies. Thanks for the perspective, Sergio. > > You church ladies don't have an argument. Science is about facts. If > you can't confront facts you are just a believer. Yes, Believer's in the new Science about facts, sorting, altering, creating, ignoring, and making of facts, + new vs old facts and the large class of moving factoidials (object orientated transitional facts) the rage today in millennial science. FactZero is a hot new field of millennial science, an application of ZPF, where out of nothing, something is there, but gone again if needed. NewFact is also a new field of millennial science where, if supporting things are needed quickly, one may supply "an answer" immediately. > > Believers are the fodder of scientific progress. > Scientifically there will be a meetup at http://www.bronycon.org/ and instruct as many as we can to spread the word, and that is a NewFact.
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 13:12 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <7ccb6f46-d768-407e-b798-56180574006e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554368 |
On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:07:22 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote: > On 2/18/2016 1:09 PM, James McGinn wrote: > > On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:04:19 AM UTC-8, > > pipp...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:54:49 PM UTC-5, James McGinn > >> wrote: > >>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:47:58 AM UTC-8, Sergio > >>> wrote: > >>>> On 2/18/2016 12:29 PM, dm wrote: > >>>>> I had envisioned this as a means of establishing the breadth > >>>>> and depth of his ignorance about existing science and > >>>>> scientific methodologies. I should have anticipated that he > >>>>> would view this as a positive aspect of his "work." Oh > >>>>> well... > > >>>> > >>>> it is all positive, > >>>> > >>>> We should be grateful to be able to witness the brilliance, > >>>> creation, and birth of a new field of "Corrected Meteorology" > >>>> by Mr. J. McGinn. > >>> > >>> And to think, I'm just getting started. > >> > >> I stand corrected. This is perfectly demonstrating the breadth and > >> depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific > >> methodologies. Thanks for the perspective, Sergio. > > > > You church ladies don't have an argument. Science is about facts. If > > you can't confront facts you are just a believer. > > Yes, Believer's in the new Science about facts, sorting, altering, > creating, ignoring, and making of facts, + new vs old facts and the > large class of moving factoidials (object orientated transitional facts) > the rage today in millennial science. > > FactZero is a hot new field of millennial science, an application of > ZPF, where out of nothing, something is there, but gone again if needed. > > NewFact is also a new field of millennial science where, if supporting > things are needed quickly, one may supply "an answer" immediately. > > > > > Believers are the fodder of scientific progress. > > > > Scientifically there will be a meetup at http://www.bronycon.org/ and > instruct as many as we can to spread the word, and that is a NewFact. Relevance?
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 13:55 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f88ea4f6-e07b-4b56-8d9b-162afac598f7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554368 |
On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:07:22 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote: > On 2/18/2016 1:09 PM, James McGinn wrote: > > On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:04:19 AM UTC-8, > > pipp...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:54:49 PM UTC-5, James McGinn > >> wrote: > >>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:47:58 AM UTC-8, Sergio > >>> wrote: > >>>> On 2/18/2016 12:29 PM, dm wrote: > >>>>> I had envisioned this as a means of establishing the breadth > >>>>> and depth of his ignorance about existing science and > >>>>> scientific methodologies. I should have anticipated that he > >>>>> would view this as a positive aspect of his "work." Oh > >>>>> well... > > >>>> > >>>> it is all positive, > >>>> > >>>> We should be grateful to be able to witness the brilliance, > >>>> creation, and birth of a new field of "Corrected Meteorology" > >>>> by Mr. J. McGinn. > >>> > >>> And to think, I'm just getting started. > >> > >> I stand corrected. This is perfectly demonstrating the breadth and > >> depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific > >> methodologies. Thanks for the perspective, Sergio. > > > > You church ladies don't have an argument. Science is about facts. If > > you can't confront facts you are just a believer. > > Yes, Believer's in the new Science about facts, sorting, altering, > creating, ignoring, and making of facts, + new vs old facts and the > large class of moving factoidials (object orientated transitional facts) > the rage today in millennial science. > > FactZero is a hot new field of millennial science, an application of > ZPF, where out of nothing, something is there, but gone again if needed. > > NewFact is also a new field of millennial science where, if supporting > things are needed quickly, one may supply "an answer" immediately. > > > > > Believers are the fodder of scientific progress. > > > > Scientifically there will be a meetup at http://www.bronycon.org/ and > instruct as many as we can to spread the word, and that is a NewFact. So, what do you think it says about you that you can't put together a rational argument. What does it say about what you believe? What does it say about the difference between what you thought was true and what is actually true. What does it say about Meteorology? What does it say about the populace's general confidence in Meteorology? Atmopheric sciences. Science in general. What does it say about your understanding of science?
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 17:01 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <na5ihi$1bfs$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #554379 |
On 2/18/2016 3:55 PM, James McGinn wrote: > On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:07:22 PM UTC-8, Sergio wrote: >> On 2/18/2016 1:09 PM, James McGinn wrote: >>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:04:19 AM UTC-8, >>> pipp...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:54:49 PM UTC-5, James McGinn >>>> wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:47:58 AM UTC-8, Sergio >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On 2/18/2016 12:29 PM, dm wrote: >>>>>>> I had envisioned this as a means of establishing the breadth >>>>>>> and depth of his ignorance about existing science and >>>>>>> scientific methodologies. I should have anticipated that he >>>>>>> would view this as a positive aspect of his "work." Oh >>>>>>> well... >> >>>>>> >>>>>> it is all positive, >>>>>> >>>>>> We should be grateful to be able to witness the brilliance, >>>>>> creation, and birth of a new field of "Corrected Meteorology" >>>>>> by Mr. J. McGinn. >>>>> >>>>> And to think, I'm just getting started. >>>> I stand corrected. This is perfectly demonstrating the breadth and >>>> depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific >>>> methodologies. Thanks for the perspective, Sergio. >>> >>> You church ladies don't have an argument. Science is about facts. If >>> you can't confront facts you are just a believer. >> Yes, Believer's in the new Science about facts, sorting, altering, >> creating, ignoring, and making of facts, + new vs old facts and the >> large class of moving factoidials (object orientated transitional facts) >> the rage today in millennial science. >> >> FactZero is a hot new field of millennial science, an application of >> ZPF, where out of nothing, something is there, but gone again if needed. >> >> NewFact is also a new field of millennial science where, if supporting >> things are needed quickly, one may supply "an answer" immediately. >> >>> >>> Believers are the fodder of scientific progress. >>> >> >> Scientifically there will be a meetup at http://www.bronycon.org/ and >> instruct as many as we can to spread the word, and that is a NewFact. > > So, what do you think it says about you that you can't put together a rational argument. Excellent example of FactZero, nothing there in that. > > What does it say about what you believe? It dosen't know what I belive. Do your beliefs push forward and exceed science ? > > What does it say about the difference between what you thought was true and what is actually true. Do you have these thoughts often ? about what is real, and reality ? > > What does it say about Meteorology? if you are it, what do you say ? > > What does"it" say about the populace's general confidence in Meteorology? Atmopheric sciences. Science in general. "it" dosen't matter, "it" is what You think that counts. > > What does "it" say about your understanding of science? I don't know what "it" said. It dosen't talk to me. Anyhow, I see you joined up at http://www.bronycon.org/ I do some admin for the site. You could instruct as many as you can there to spread the word, and that is a NewFact.
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 12:42 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <606e3aab-3be2-4516-8e13-a5d9f6516f9a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554320 |
On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:04:19 AM UTC-8, pipp...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 1:54:49 PM UTC-5, James McGinn wrote: > > On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:47:58 AM UTC-8, Sergio wrote: > > > On 2/18/2016 12:29 PM, dm wrote: > > > > I had envisioned this as a means of establishing the breadth and > > > > depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific > > > > methodologies. I should have anticipated that he would view this as a > > > > positive aspect of his "work." Oh well... > > > > > > > > > > it is all positive, > > > > > > We should be grateful to be able to witness the brilliance, creation, > > > and birth of a new field of "Corrected Meteorology" by Mr. J. McGinn. > > > > And to think, I'm just getting started. > > I stand corrected. This is perfectly demonstrating the breadth and depth of his ignorance about existing science and scientific methodologies. Thanks for the perspective, Sergio. You have no argument. That tells the whole story.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 09:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5ae3a295-ea16-4cd6-821f-0c60d497c9b0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554316 |
Sergio - show quoted text - it is all positive, We should be grateful to be able to witness the brilliance, creation, and birth of a new field of "Corrected Meteorology" by Mr. J. McGinn. He may seem abrasive at times, but this is the new physics, without the burdens of math, and old stale, stuck thinking. We have to move-on past that, it is too hard to learn anyway, too complicated. -------------- I have to assume that this is sarcasm. Although this view is quite popular with people like BJ and John. They believe in ghosts, ESP, the 9/11 conspiracy and so on. As far as McGuinn goes, he seems to be a bit of a retard. No offense intended of course. Anyone who feels that mainstream science is holding back progress is a bit of a retard as well. Mainstream science has given us this amazing life we live today. With lifespans near double what they were in the past. With technological advances that has put a $29.00 device in my pocket that connects me with the entire planet using relativity corrected satellites in orbit over our planet. Keep in mind that when I was born, there were no human objects in space at all. And what has McGuinn, BJ and John's 'science' given us? Nothing useful. And I mean NOTHING. Fake ghost videos. Reports of ESP and remote viewing that total up to zero use to humanity. Religious wars.... That's what they have given us. Thanks
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 09:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <669ce8cb-dbc6-432e-9313-814d2f639020@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554633 |
On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 9:07:28 AM UTC-8, HVAC wrote: > Sergio > - show quoted text - > it is all positive, > > We should be grateful to be able to witness the brilliance, creation, > and birth of a new field of "Corrected Meteorology" by Mr. J. McGinn. > > He may seem abrasive at times, but this is the new physics, without the > burdens of math, Most of the math is most of meteorology is put there because most people are like you. They see numbers. They don't understand them. But they look complex. It looks like science to them. Math is the glitter of science. All that glitters is not gold. Monkeys see something shiney and think it gold. You are a monkey. You dimwits couldn't even see the rather obvious weaknesses that are so plainly apparent in current meteorology. Geez, how stupid do you have to be to not notice that water only boils above 212F. I knew this in elementary school. Not one of you dimwits noticed that. Deductive reasoning is well beyond any of you. If not for google and wikipedia you birdbrains would be completely lost. Duhr.
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| From | HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 09:37 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <744dac04-40ab-4f2f-b5c0-a2844fbdbb0e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554639 |
You dimwits couldn't even see the rather obvious weaknesses that are so plainly apparent in current meteorology. Geez, how stupid do you have to be to not notice that water only boils above 212F. I knew this in elementary school. Not one of you dimwits noticed that. Deductive reasoning is well beyond any of you. If not for google and wikipedia you birdbrains would be completely lost. ------------- Again, mcguinn gives us nothing. He is too stupid to understand higher math, so therefore he denigrates it. He falls into the same category as BJ and John. In other words, he's a stillborn Luddite. Don't go getting mad now, McFly
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 17:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ai1kpc-rv5.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #554643 |
HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote: > > You dimwits couldn't even see the rather obvious weaknesses that are so plainly apparent in current meteorology. Geez, how stupid do you have to be to not notice that water only boils above 212F. I knew this in elementary school. Not one of you dimwits noticed that. Deductive reasoning is well beyond any of you. If not for google and wikipedia you birdbrains would be completely lost. > ------------- > > Again, mcguinn gives us nothing. He is too stupid to understand higher math, so therefore he denigrates it. He falls into the same category as BJ and John. In other words, he's a stillborn Luddite. > > Don't go getting mad now, McFly The guy has some strange mental aberration that prevents him from seeing what is obvious to the rest of the world. Either that or he is the world's greatest troll. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | dm <pippinese@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 10:14 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ee1d83ee-01a6-4d18-9671-66ba8b1f3c75@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554648 |
I was inclined to think troll until the recent appearance of his videos. Now I'm leaning toward "a moderately intelligent person with a strange mental aberration, a strong tendency to believe in ridiculous conspiracies, and a well-developed persecution complex". But "unusually energetic troll and a quite good actor" is still a distinct possibility. I guess further discussion on this point belongs on sci.psychology.
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 10:41 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <359328ad-1410-462e-924c-7c369be9287c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554651 |
On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 10:14:10 AM UTC-8, dm wrote: > I was inclined to think troll until the recent appearance of his videos. Now I'm leaning toward "a moderately intelligent person with a strange mental aberration, a strong tendency to believe in ridiculous conspiracies, and a well-developed persecution complex". But "unusually energetic troll and a quite good actor" is still a distinct possibility. > > I guess further discussion on this point belongs on sci.psychology. Sheep can't reason. They just type.
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 19:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <0m8kpc-1m6.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #554661 |
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote: > On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 10:14:10 AM UTC-8, dm wrote: >> I was inclined to think troll until the recent appearance of his videos. Now I'm leaning toward "a moderately intelligent person with a strange mental aberration, a strong tendency to believe in ridiculous conspiracies, and a well-developed persecution complex". But "unusually energetic troll and a quite good actor" is still a distinct possibility. >> >> I guess further discussion on this point belongs on sci.psychology. > > Sheep can't reason. They just type. The insane claim to have discovered something that contradicts the work of thousands of people over hundreds of years. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 13:17 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <bbb23523-6133-4605-96df-3785aab71acf@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #554675 |
On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 12:01:05 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 10:14:10 AM UTC-8, dm wrote: > >> I was inclined to think troll until the recent appearance of his videos. Now I'm leaning toward "a moderately intelligent person with a strange mental aberration, a strong tendency to believe in ridiculous conspiracies, and a well-developed persecution complex". But "unusually energetic troll and a quite good actor" is still a distinct possibility. > >> > >> I guess further discussion on this point belongs on sci.psychology. > > > > Sheep can't reason. They just type. > > The insane claim to have discovered something that contradicts the work > of thousands of people over hundreds of years. Yeah, I'm insane, like Galileo, Newton, Einstein, and Wegner. It shows to go ya, if you are dumb enough to believe what everybody believes you have zero chance of making a discovery. Any real scientist knows that truth isn't determined by consensus, it's determined by facts. Obviously you haven't the slightest idea what I mean by this.
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