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| Started by | Doug Weller <dweller@ramtops.removethis.co.uk> |
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| First post | 2018-09-23 16:12 +0100 |
| Last post | 2018-09-28 05:12 -0500 |
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Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Doug Weller <dweller@ramtops.removethis.co.uk> - 2018-09-23 16:12 +0100
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 12:34 -0400
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-09-23 10:47 -0600
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 13:05 -0400
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 09:03 -0700
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-09-25 23:13 -0600
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 09:03 -0700
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 09:02 -0700
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 09:05 -0700
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 12:13 -0500
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 23:40 -0400
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 06:46 +0000
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 12:48 -0400
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 11:23 -0700
Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-09-28 05:12 -0500
| From | Doug Weller <dweller@ramtops.removethis.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-09-23 16:12 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! |
| Message-ID | <b9bfqdhb2gsskl07m529qhfb7rtd1prubm@4ax.com> |
On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 11:07:31 -0700, in rec.arts.sf.written, The Starmaker wrote: > >the secret to getting to edit Wiki is to insert misinformation... accurate, correct and true information is not allowed in Wiki. > > >I'll give you an example of inaccurate, incorrect and untrue information posted on Wiki: > > >Here is a patent of Albert Einstein REFRIDERATION process >https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US1781541-0.png > > >Here you see on WIKI somebody inserted at the bottom using old time fontss Calligraphy "Einstei's refrigerator" >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_refrigerator#/media/File:Einstein_Refrigerator.png > > >Einstein clearly wrote REFRIDERATION, not refriderator as 'they' want you to think. It's fraud and misinformation. > > >All Einstein's patent is for a cooling system for atomic bomb reactors: >https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/images/2015/08/np-how-Boiling-Water-Reactor-works.gif Huh? The patent at patentimages.storage clearly says "refrigeration", no "d". Doug Weller -- Doug Weller -- A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-23 12:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <qvffqd5tv6bbsuml1ffckiunetarjl84aq@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #704236 |
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 16:12:49 +0100, Doug Weller <dweller@ramtops.removethis.co.uk> wrote: >On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 11:07:31 -0700, in rec.arts.sf.written, The Starmaker >wrote: > >> >>the secret to getting to edit Wiki is to insert misinformation... accurate, correct and true information is not allowed in Wiki. >> >> >>I'll give you an example of inaccurate, incorrect and untrue information posted on Wiki: >> >> >>Here is a patent of Albert Einstein REFRIDERATION process >>https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US1781541-0.png >> >> >>Here you see on WIKI somebody inserted at the bottom using old time fontss Calligraphy "Einstei's refrigerator" >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_refrigerator#/media/File:Einstein_Refrigerator.png >> >> >>Einstein clearly wrote REFRIDERATION, not refriderator as 'they' want you to think. It's fraud and misinformation. >> >> >>All Einstein's patent is for a cooling system for atomic bomb reactors: >>https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/images/2015/08/np-how-Boiling-Water-Reactor-works.gif > >Huh? The patent at patentimages.storage clearly says "refrigeration", no >"d". Besides which: (a) why would Electrolux have any interest in "atomic bomb reactors" in 1927, (b) the process described is one useful for cooling soda, not reactors (c) WTF is an "atomic bomb reactor" anyway (d) Why am I replying to a post on a Starmaker thread to begin with (e) Why are _you_ replying to a post on a Starmaker thread to begin with > >Doug Weller
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2018-09-23 10:47 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <g0puelFbai0U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #704241 |
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >(c) WTF is an "atomic bomb reactor" anyway You can make two kinds of A bombs. One uses U235, separating it out from the far more common U238. The other kind uses a nuclear reactor to turn U238 into plutoniium. The various reactors at Hanford could be considered "atomic bomb reactors." -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-23 13:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <qkhfqdtrc89d37g0baoom1rndbb9u8im7s@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #704243 |
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:47:30 -0600, Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote: >J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > >>(c) WTF is an "atomic bomb reactor" anyway > >You can make two kinds of A bombs. One uses U235, separating it out >from the far more common U238. > >The other kind uses a nuclear reactor to turn U238 into plutoniium. >The various reactors at Hanford could be considered "atomic bomb >reactors." Never heard anyone in the physics or engineering community refer to one as such. And in any case that particular reactor was not a boiling water reactor of the kind that starnumbnuts linked nor did it use anything resembling the refrigeration system it was bleating about.
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| From | Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-24 09:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA9675C2F9CEFDtaustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #704243 |
Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote in
news:g0puelFbai0U1@mid.individual.net:
> You can make two kinds of A bombs. One uses U235, separating it
> out from the far more common U238.
You can also make an A bomb out of U233 (India did so). It's not a
very *good* A bomb, but it will explode in a chain reaction.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> |
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| Date | 2018-09-25 23:13 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <g10istFm838U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #704359 |
I thought that India was using Pu from CANDU reactors. Or do they do some of each? I wasn't aware of U233 bombs. Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote in >news:g0puelFbai0U1@mid.individual.net: > > >> You can make two kinds of A bombs. One uses U235, separating it >> out from the far more common U238. > >You can also make an A bomb out of U233 (India did so). It's not a >very *good* A bomb, but it will explode in a chain reaction. -- We are geeks. Resistance is voltage over current.
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| From | Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-27 09:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA96A5C1793C81taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #704631 |
Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote in
news:g10istFm838U1@mid.individual.net:
> I thought that India was using Pu from CANDU reactors. Or do
> they do some of each? I wasn't aware of U233 bombs.
The U233 was their very early efforts, in 1998, and I believe was
motivated by their extensive deposits of thorium (which can fairly
easily be turned into U233). The results were dissapointing enough
that they didn't bother beyond that.
>
> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote in
>>news:g0puelFbai0U1@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>
>>> You can make two kinds of A bombs. One uses U235, separating
>>> it out from the far more common U238.
>>
>>You can also make an A bomb out of U233 (India did so). It's not
>>a very *good* A bomb, but it will explode in a chain reaction.
>
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-24 09:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA9675BFAFAC29taustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #704241 |
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
news:qvffqd5tv6bbsuml1ffckiunetarjl84aq@4ax.com:
> (d) Why am I replying to a post on a Starmaker thread to begin
I could suggest a couple of reasons, neither of which would come as
news to anyone, including you.
> with (e) Why are _you_ replying to a post on a Starmaker thread
> to begin with
Therein lies the real question. Doug appears to be relatively new in
rasw, so perhaps he isn't familiar with what the hell is wrong with
Starmaker. On the other hand, it's also plausible that he should be
spelling his name Duh-g. Time will tell.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-24 09:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA9675C6C52B22taustingmail@69.16.179.43> |
| In reply to | #704236 |
Free hint for the newbie: The Starmaker is an idiot, who gives
considerable evidence of mental illness. It is incapable of saying
anything that is coherent, and often has difficulty forming complete
sentences.
Arguing with it is a good way to look stupid.
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-24 12:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pob5vg$opf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #704362 |
On 2018-09-24 11:05, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote: > Free hint for the newbie: The Starmaker is an idiot, who gives > considerable evidence of mental illness. It is incapable of saying > anything that is coherent, and often has difficulty forming complete > sentences. > > Arguing with it is a good way to look stupid. What he said. Plus, many of us have Starfaker firmly ensconced in our killfiles, and thus never see its posts. However, we do see when people reply to it and include r.a.s.w. Please refrain from so doing. -- Michael F. Stemper If you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does.
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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-24 23:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <bfbjqd11uve1odo04t3r34e009e5cghhhl@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #704377 |
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:13:11 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote: >On 2018-09-24 11:05, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote: >> Free hint for the newbie: The Starmaker is an idiot, who gives >> considerable evidence of mental illness. It is incapable of saying >> anything that is coherent, and often has difficulty forming complete >> sentences. >> >> Arguing with it is a good way to look stupid. > >What he said. > >Plus, many of us have Starfaker firmly ensconced in our killfiles, and >thus never see its posts. However, we do see when people reply to it and >include r.a.s.w. Please refrain from so doing. I'll affirm what both of them said. Seriously, the Star thing is best ignored, and failing to do that will annoy several people who might otherwise welcome new blood. -- My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com My latest novel is Stone Unturned: A Legend of Ethshar. See http://www.ethshar.com/StoneUnturned.shtml
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| From | Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-25 06:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA967F1EAB2CDEtaustincagmailcom@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #704461 |
Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in
news:bfbjqd11uve1odo04t3r34e009e5cghhhl@reader80.eternal-september.
org:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:13:11 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper"
> <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2018-09-24 11:05, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> Free hint for the newbie: The Starmaker is an idiot, who gives
>>> considerable evidence of mental illness. It is incapable of
>>> saying anything that is coherent, and often has difficulty
>>> forming complete sentences.
>>>
>>> Arguing with it is a good way to look stupid.
>>
>>What he said.
>>
>>Plus, many of us have Starfaker firmly ensconced in our
>>killfiles, and thus never see its posts. However, we do see when
>>people reply to it and include r.a.s.w. Please refrain from so
>>doing.
>
> I'll affirm what both of them said. Seriously, the Star thing
> is best ignored, and failing to do that will annoy several
> people who might otherwise welcome new blood.
>
If you note the Newsgroups header, I strongly suspect that Doug is
posting from one of the other groups. Some of the astronomy groups
seem to be wingnut magnets, and actual phycisists are all pretty
bizarre.
--
Terry Austin
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-25 12:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <9lpkqdp6vqos036jjk1vbpt50ah3lhgkq0@reader80.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #704476 |
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 06:46:52 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in >news:bfbjqd11uve1odo04t3r34e009e5cghhhl@reader80.eternal-september. >org: > >> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:13:11 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper" >> <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>On 2018-09-24 11:05, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote: >>>> Free hint for the newbie: The Starmaker is an idiot, who gives >>>> considerable evidence of mental illness. It is incapable of >>>> saying anything that is coherent, and often has difficulty >>>> forming complete sentences. >>>> >>>> Arguing with it is a good way to look stupid. >>> >>>What he said. >>> >>>Plus, many of us have Starfaker firmly ensconced in our >>>killfiles, and thus never see its posts. However, we do see when >>>people reply to it and include r.a.s.w. Please refrain from so >>>doing. >> >> I'll affirm what both of them said. Seriously, the Star thing >> is best ignored, and failing to do that will annoy several >> people who might otherwise welcome new blood. >> >If you note the Newsgroups header, I strongly suspect that Doug is >posting from one of the other groups. Some of the astronomy groups >seem to be wingnut magnets, and actual phycisists are all pretty >bizarre. My son is a physicist, so I can confirm that. -- My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com My latest novel is Stone Unturned: A Legend of Ethshar. See http://www.ethshar.com/StoneUnturned.shtml
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| From | Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-25 11:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA96873F1A9726taustingmail@69.16.179.42> |
| In reply to | #704542 |
Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in
news:9lpkqdp6vqos036jjk1vbpt50ah3lhgkq0@reader80.eternal-september.
org:
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 06:46:52 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:bfbjqd11uve1odo04t3r34e009e5cghhhl@reader80.eternal-septembe
>>r. org:
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:13:11 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper"
>>> <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2018-09-24 11:05, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>> Free hint for the newbie: The Starmaker is an idiot, who
>>>>> gives considerable evidence of mental illness. It is
>>>>> incapable of saying anything that is coherent, and often has
>>>>> difficulty forming complete sentences.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arguing with it is a good way to look stupid.
>>>>
>>>>What he said.
>>>>
>>>>Plus, many of us have Starfaker firmly ensconced in our
>>>>killfiles, and thus never see its posts. However, we do see
>>>>when people reply to it and include r.a.s.w. Please refrain
>>>>from so doing.
>>>
>>> I'll affirm what both of them said. Seriously, the Star thing
>>> is best ignored, and failing to do that will annoy several
>>> people who might otherwise welcome new blood.
>>>
>>If you note the Newsgroups header, I strongly suspect that Doug
>>is posting from one of the other groups. Some of the astronomy
>>groups seem to be wingnut magnets, and actual phycisists are all
>>pretty bizarre.
>
> My son is a physicist, so I can confirm that.
>
One need only troll through the archives at XKCD to wish one
didn't understand. (I'm not sure if Monroe is a mathematician or a
physicist, but he certainly understands the . . . eccentricities
of both.)
--
Terry Austin
Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| From | David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 05:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8OKdnSPusP4OYzDGnZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #704542 |
On 2018-09-25, Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote: > Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote: >>If you note the Newsgroups header, I strongly suspect that Doug is >>posting from one of the other groups. Some of the astronomy groups >>seem to be wingnut magnets, and actual phycisists are all pretty bizarre. > > My son is a physicist, so I can confirm that. I was a physicist, so everyone here on r.a.sf.w can confirm that. Dave, srsly, i'm a kibologist, it doesn't get much more bizarre ps: plus i could explain Magic the Gathering's interrupt timing rules. both versions. I can't now though. -- \/David DeLaney posting thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible :( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
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