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String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions

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First post2018-09-12 05:28 -0700
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  String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 05:28 -0700
    Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 05:34 -0700
    Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 13:09 +0000
      Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 07:00 -0700
        Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 14:47 +0000
          Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 08:08 -0700
            Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 08:24 -0700
              Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 16:39 +0000
            String "Theory" (Hypothesis) is looking for the graviton. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-12 14:44 -0700
            Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 09:57 -0700
              Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-09-15 01:44 -0700
    Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 09:53 -0700
      Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-12 11:15 -0700
        Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 12:34 -0700
          Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 13:00 -0700
        Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2018-09-13 10:38 +0200
          Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-09-13 09:30 -0700
            Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 10:03 -0700
    Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions consequently7990662@gmail.com - 2018-09-12 13:58 -0700
    Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 09:47 -0700
      "String Theory" is a useless, unfalsifiable, random hypothesis. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-13 15:09 -0700
        Re: "String Theory" is a useless, unfalsifiable, random hypothesis. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-09-13 17:10 -0500
          "String Theory" is a useless, unfalsifiable, random hypothesis. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-13 15:31 -0700
            Re: "String Theory" is a useless, unfalsifiable, random hypothesis. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 15:33 -0700
              Re: "String Theory" is a useless, unfalsifiable, random hypothesis. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-09-13 17:44 -0500
            Re: "String Theory" is a useless, unfalsifiable, random hypothesis. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-09-13 17:43 -0500
              Too many paint chips. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-13 16:00 -0700
                Re: Too many paint chips. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-09-14 10:52 -0500
                  StrawMan Inc. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-14 13:00 -0700
                    Re: StrawMan Inc. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-09-14 15:15 -0500
                      The tastiest soup in a putrid swamp. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-14 15:13 -0700
    Re: String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-09-13 17:27 -0500

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#702233 — String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions

FromMusatov <tomusatov@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-12 05:28 -0700
SubjectString Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions
Message-ID<e1173a12-5827-4843-b388-42cd4f5a37a8@googlegroups.com>
Agree or disagree?

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#702235

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-09-12 05:34 -0700
Message-ID<1e67b86b-7b37-4cd5-b8f1-a39a4519b0e0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702233
On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 3:28:54 PM UTC+3, Musatov wrote:
> Agree or disagree?

====================
not arbitrary  
3 dimensions plus time plus mass 
is enough 
==
ATB
Y.P
=================

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#702239

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-12 13:09 +0000
Message-ID<pnb373$phc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#702233
Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> wrote:
> Agree or disagree?
> 

Disagree. The number of dimensions assumed is fixed. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#702247

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-12 07:00 -0700
Message-ID<6f9340da-fe5c-4b0d-a2f1-c9263c0b3034@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702239
Odd
“Disagree. The number of dimensions assumed is fixed. ”

Like we wish YOU could be fixed.

What’s a ‘string’ made of, Odd?
A line of point particles?

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#702252

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-12 14:47 +0000
Message-ID<pnb8u4$147i$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#702247
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Disagree. The number of dimensions assumed is fixed. ”
> 
> Like we wish YOU could be fixed.
> 
> What’s a ‘string’ made of, Odd?
> A line of point particles?
> 
> 

Don’t guess, John. You just end up looking stupid. 

Especially when all you’d have to do is simply goog....

Oh wait, you can’t do that either. You need people to do that for you.
Forgot, sorry. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#702255

FromMusatov <tomusatov@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-12 08:08 -0700
Message-ID<55791c46-efe1-4972-9bdc-4c5ac78a8178@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702252
You who say it does not assume arbitrary number of dimensions, how do you respond to these differences?

"According to superstring theory, there are at least 10 dimensions in the universe (M-theory actually suggests that there are 11 dimensions to spacetime; bosonic string theories suggest 26 dimensions)."

Could there be more than 10, 11, and 26?

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#702262

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-12 08:24 -0700
Message-ID<4c303ea3-3746-4c71-be36-7a1b30c366b8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702255
Musatov 
“Could there be more than 10, 11, and 26? ”

There are THREE. X, Y and Z.

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#702274

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-12 16:39 +0000
Message-ID<pnbffa$1gpk$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#702262
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Musatov 
> “Could there be more than 10, 11, and 26? ”
> 
> There are THREE. X, Y and Z.
> 

That we are aware of in everyday life. 

The right question to ask at this point is to ask, how is it possible that
there might be dimensions that we aren’t aware of in everyday life. There
ARE very well considered answers to those questions, and all John needs to
do is goog.... oh, never mind, he’s not able to do that. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#702343 — String "Theory" (Hypothesis) is looking for the graviton.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-09-12 14:44 -0700
SubjectString "Theory" (Hypothesis) is looking for the graviton.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.12--2.44pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#702255
> String Theory assumes and arbitrary number of dimensions.
> Could there be more than 10, 11, and 26 ?

Yes, String "Theory" (Hypothesis) is SemiRandom, with few constraints.

It's looking for the graviton.
Like fusion, it's pursued because it _ might be valuable, one day.
So far, it's neither useful nor falsifiable.

"String Theory vs Brian Greene" by Lawrence Krauss, August 2018:
   youtube.com/watch?v=u8cHmMk9Igc

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#702472

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-13 09:57 -0700
Message-ID<7da7d33e-2ecf-4e67-9b24-b7234947098b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702255
On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 11:08:44 AM UTC-4, Musatov wrote:
> You who say it does not assume arbitrary number of dimensions, how do you respond to these differences?
> 
> "According to superstring theory, there are at least 10 dimensions in the universe (M-theory actually suggests that there are 11 dimensions to spacetime; bosonic string theories suggest 26 dimensions)."
> 
> Could there be more than 10, 11, and 26?

the number is fixed within the theory.
The answer is still unknown as to which theory will ultimately
be the one to unify the many aspects of nature.

Ed

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#702764

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-09-15 01:44 -0700
Message-ID<172920d9-57f0-45a9-9a25-439c13ac1e4d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702472
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:57:53 PM UTC+3, Edward Prochak wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 11:08:44 AM UTC-4, Musatov wrote:
> > You who say it does not assume arbitrary number of dimensions, how do you respond to these differences?
> > 
> > "According to superstring theory, there are at least 10 dimensions in the universe (M-theory actually suggests that there are 11 dimensions to spacetime; bosonic string theories suggest 26 dimensions)."
> > 
> > Could there be more than 10, 11, and 26?
> 
> the number is fixed within the theory.
> The answer is still unknown as to which theory will ultimately
> be the one to unify the many aspects of nature.
> 
> Ed
=======
 X  Y Z
plus iome 
plus mass 
is enough !!
====
Y.P
===============

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#702283

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-12 09:53 -0700
Message-ID<499b6e2e-0359-46d5-9257-fd2c48ec7e9c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702233
On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 5:28:54 AM UTC-7, Musatov wrote:
> Agree or disagree?

11 or 6 take your pick.Witten boiled it down to  six.I go with an infinite amount,and will post way when I give it more thought.Bert

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#702301

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-09-12 11:15 -0700
Message-ID<pnbl6g$2mgt$1@adenine.netfront.net>
In reply to#702283
"homo-reber G=emc^2" <herbertgay-lazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
"OK-I-lied. None of what I posted did happen.O ya." Bert
"Ok-I'm-lying" "I feel very safe when I lie. I will lie till I die" Bert
"Reality is that the following is what happened. O ya". Bert:
>
"My bar tab for Bud Light broke all records" Bert
"and along the very same line I guzzle my wine". Bert
"I use Cocaine that is a wonder-drug for me". Bert.
"The drugs I'm taking are fogging my mind".  Ber
"I can't even remember lots of stuff".Bert  ... But...
"I will do even more Drugs till the end of my time". Bert
>
"I am a first class low wit bigot.  Sad and so true. Bert"
"I daily bleat "My Stupid Palaver ( = MSP) to prove
that I have alwasy been a Mental Cadaver. Bert"
____ "I park & bark in the dark. Bert" _________
"I'm a stupid shit and always very full of it." Bert."
>
"Why am I posting this, it's making me cry as it always does".Bert
"Being Jewish I know this is so very true". That is a given. Bert
"Get the picture", "Go figure", "O ya",  "I know why".Bert
>
______  "Why am I not loved by all?". Bert. _________
>
"I am a proud Marxist/Soros/Bolshevik Jew with a IQ of 1-point-22". Bert
"I have a Superiority complex" without any quirks
 which lets me know how everything works." as is seen by
<http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier-s-REAL-intent> as the
<http://tinyurl.com/The-Chosen-Graveyard-Vandal> which
shows that SwineBert has always-ONLY-ONE-thing-on
his mind, namely to do all those items-from-(1)-to-item-(5):
>
(1)
On 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015, Face-Shitter Glazier wrote:
Harlow Campbell HVAC, Mr.HVAC@gmail.com,
& Saul Levy <saullevy1@cox.net
& Jacoby Benj, <nobody@gmail.com>:
"I'll be sitting on your faces to take a shit & say: "Open wide".
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
>
(2)
On 06Dec2014, when the Christian-Hater, JewPigBert Glazier
said to "benj" <nobody@gmail.com>:
"Reality is you always post under me for you are an ass kisser.
For Christmas I'll shit on your kisser."
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
"Benj, you can thank me in advance". - TreBert. ... addinng
>
(3)
On 03Aug2017:
"benj, you eat shit and your shitty brain is coming out your ears."
On 20Jul2018:
Benj, my posts are way over your head.Reality is your head
is up your ass.So fart it out before you get constipated.Bert
>
(4)
On 25Mar2008, Graveyard Vandal Glazier wrote in:
<https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J>
"Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a good laugh
when it seeps down on your face". --  Bert
>
(5)
On 24Jun2018 SwineBert Glazier said to
Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> "your nose is
in a shit bucket all the time. Eat shit and you fit" -- Bert



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#702316

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-09-12 12:34 -0700
Message-ID<afca2407-8c2e-44fb-8c74-9986379b02b1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702301
There are four dimensions and they are what we call spacial.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#702324

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-12 13:00 -0700
Message-ID<b6e41806-f2c9-4c80-8c83-46a7e366e40b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702316
mitch
“There are four dimensions and they are what we call spacial. ”

Are you trying to say spatial or special?

There are 3 spatial dimensions

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#702421

FromHelmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat>
Date2018-09-13 10:38 +0200
Message-ID<qm7kpddtp8klc5nk18pa17luodi72f9b7v@4ax.com>
In reply to#702301
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:15:38 -0700, "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote:

>On 25Mar2008, Graveyard Vandal Glazier wrote in:
><https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a>
><https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J>
>"Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a good laugh
>when it seeps down on your face". --  Bert

hans hanson did it again.
hanson places his own epitaph all over the world:

>"Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a good laugh
>when it seeps down on your face". --  Bert

hans hanson wasted his whole life in attempts to out-think Einstein.
Never did he succeed nor did he ever produce a resonable argument.
Miserably he failed and what remains of hans hanson, stinks of urine.

---

Next answer post he will add the usual lines about me,
from his phantasy, because he always does it,
the notorious liar he is.

hans hanson,  REST IN PISS !

  R.   I.   P.

w.

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#702466

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2018-09-13 09:30 -0700
Message-ID<pne3aj$krl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#702421
"hwabnig@.---- -.dotat" the gay, beastial Schweinehund, 
aka ex-Hitler-youth Helmut Wabnigger, the Austrian, 
is still full of grief for having lost WWII, had another
drug induced up-welling of hatred because hanson
cited Wabnigger's Dossier & so, Wabnigger yodeled,
>
whilst Wabnigger laid himself under Glazier's Sphincter
and  greedily feasted on Bert's Turds, as seen here:
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>.
Wabnigger loves Glazier because Bert's email address 
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> does anagram to 
<reber_A.Hitler_z0g@gmail.com>

>>>
>________ the HW-Wabnigger Dossier:___________

[HW said]:  "USA is the most retarded civilization on Earth."
[HW said]:  "I'm a criminal Schwein that pisses onto Graves"
[HW said]: "Jews are a residue of failed evolution"
[HW said]: "It's a good life sitting under the date-palm-tree"
[HW said]:  "Judaism & Islam are consistent in that respect"
[HW said]:  "Demontage all Israel, Stone by stone, brick by brick"
[HW said]:  "Convert to the ONE & ONLY Religion of Relativity"
 >
[HW said]:  "Relativity is wrong because Einstein was a Jew".
[HW said]:  "Relativity must be wrong because I don't need it".
[HW said]:  "I am an Einstein Dingleberry!
[HW said]:  "GPS has a 38000 sec delay time"
[HW said]:  "I have seen an UFO yesterday!"
[HW said]:  "A ghost-driver is on the motorway!"
[HW said]:  "Nobody on the internet knows that I am a dog-fucker"
>
 >
<snicker>-<chuckle>-<chortle>- ROTFLMAO
 >>

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#702473

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-13 10:03 -0700
Message-ID<b9ccbff7-8467-4267-8148-723861db9e05@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702466
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 12:30:15 PM UTC-4, hanson wrote:

> <snicker>-<chuckle>-<chortle>- ROTFLMAO

Opps, I posted my other replies after Hanson officially closed
this thread. Sorry.

8^)

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#702328

Fromconsequently7990662@gmail.com
Date2018-09-12 13:58 -0700
Message-ID<106c2e96-897d-4bec-8e61-4152016d9099@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702233
String theory is based on the gauge that uses Maxwell's equations that is not luminous.

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#702469

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-13 09:47 -0700
Message-ID<0b4d6152-60ef-4cfd-892d-744cea63ddea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#702233
On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 8:28:54 AM UTC-4, Musatov wrote:
> Agree or disagree?

The selection of dimensions seems to be based on properties of symmetry.
At least, based on my limited knowledge, that is how it appears to me.

I admit the mathematics is above my skill level. But it does suggest
a certain beauty. String theory needs more work, as admitted by
leaders that are developing it.

Ed

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