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  Einstein and QM is??? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-03 18:31 -0700
    Re: Einstein and QM is??? sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2018-10-03 18:51 -0700
      Re: Einstein and QM is??? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 09:33 -0700
        "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-05 05:56 -0700
          Re: "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:07 -0700
            Re: "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-06 13:38 -0700
              Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-06 15:54 -0700
                Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-06 19:00 -0400
                  Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 16:03 -0700
                  Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-07 00:11 +0100
                  Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 17:03 -0700
                Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-07 15:01 -0700
                  Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 18:41 -0700
                    Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-14 15:10 -0700
                      Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 14:34 -0700
                        First you kill God, then you take His place. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-15 14:55 -0700
                          Re: First you kill God, then you take His place. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 14:59 -0600
                          Re: First you kill God, then you take His place. aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2018-10-15 19:08 -0400
                        Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus. Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> - 2018-10-15 17:09 -0700
      Idiots play dice; nature is _ not an idiot. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-13 23:45 -0700
    Re: Einstein and QM is??? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 12:37 -0700
    Re: Einstein and QM is??? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 12:40 -0700

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#706067 — Einstein and QM is???

Einstein did not feel Bohr was on the money with QM He hated the uncertainty principle,but look how he got his Nobel.He did more than Bohr on QM Bert

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#706072

On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 8:31:53 PM UTC-5, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> Einstein did not feel Bohr was on the money with QM He hated the uncertainty principle,but look how he got his Nobel.He did more than Bohr on QM Bert

  Quoting John Wheeler from Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History
  Of Time, A Reader's Companion", "I had worked with the other
  great man in the quantum debate, Niels Bohr, in Copenhagen.
  And I know no greater debate in the last hundreds of years
  than the debate between Bohr and Einstein, no greater debate
  between two greater men, or one that extended over a longer
  period of time--twenty-eight years--at a higher level of
  colleagueship. To put it in brief: Does the world exist out
  there independent of us, as Einstein thought; or, as Bohr
  thought, is there some sense in which we, through our choice
  of observing equipment, have something to do with what comes
  about..." Einstein refused to believe in a reality that
  precluded cause and effect. "God does not play dice with the
  universe." he declared. He especially objected to the
  theory's insistence that particles, forces, and events
  seemed to come into existence only when a measurement or
  observation was made."

  For more than half a century physicists and philosophers
  debated whether the quantum theory really was a complete and
  accurate description of reality. Then in 1964, physicist
  John Bell proposed a brilliant method to resolve the issue.
  "Bell's Theorem", says the eminent physicist Henry Stapps,
  "is the most profound discovery of science." By the early
  1980s a number of elegant experiments applying Bell's
  Theorem have proved that quantum theory, which speaks in
  terms of probabilities rather than actualities, is indeed a
  complete explanation of reality... God DOES play dice with
  the universe!

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#706129

On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 6:51:23 PM UTC-7, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 8:31:53 PM UTC-5, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > Einstein did not feel Bohr was on the money with QM He hated the uncertainty principle,but look how he got his Nobel.He did more than Bohr on QM Bert
> 
>   Quoting John Wheeler from Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History
>   Of Time, A Reader's Companion", "I had worked with the other
>   great man in the quantum debate, Niels Bohr, in Copenhagen.
>   And I know no greater debate in the last hundreds of years
>   than the debate between Bohr and Einstein, no greater debate
>   between two greater men, or one that extended over a longer
>   period of time--twenty-eight years--at a higher level of
>   colleagueship. To put it in brief: Does the world exist out
>   there independent of us, as Einstein thought; or, as Bohr
>   thought, is there some sense in which we, through our choice
>   of observing equipment, have something to do with what comes
>   about..." Einstein refused to believe in a reality that
>   precluded cause and effect. "God does not play dice with the
>   universe." he declared. He especially objected to the
>   theory's insistence that particles, forces, and events
>   seemed to come into existence only when a measurement or
>   observation was made."
> 
>   For more than half a century physicists and philosophers
>   debated whether the quantum theory really was a complete and
>   accurate description of reality. Then in 1964, physicist
>   John Bell proposed a brilliant method to resolve the issue.
>   "Bell's Theorem", says the eminent physicist Henry Stapps,
>   "is the most profound discovery of science." By the early
>   1980s a number of elegant experiments applying Bell's
>   Theorem have proved that quantum theory, which speaks in
>   terms of probabilities rather than actualities, is indeed a
>   complete explanation of reality... God DOES play dice with
>   the universe!

Probing into the quantum realm upsets it.Einstein did not take that into his thinking.Cern uses great energy to smash particles WOW The reality of that is like hitting a Swiss watch with a hammer to see its parts. Good thing Cern was not in use when Einstein was arround. Einstein was not a lab.man.Thinking,and math was his name of fame Bert

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#706224 — "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice.

Sam:
> > God DOES play dice with the universe !

News Flash:  Einstein was right, Sam is wrong.

"God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice.

Once the cards are all dealt, and the dice stop rolling,
and the bets are paid out, the "probability wave" has collapsed.

The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:

  It's an ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test...
  like a pollster, asking 5 _ liars if they'll vote for Hillary or not.

You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
nor General Relativity; in fact, they _ contradict each other.

The best you can do is:

  - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
  - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).

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#706269 — Re: "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice.

On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 5:56:42 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Sam:
> > > God DOES play dice with the universe !
> 
> News Flash:  Einstein was right, Sam is wrong.
> 
> "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice.
> 
> Once the cards are all dealt, and the dice stop rolling,
> and the bets are paid out, the "probability wave" has collapsed.
> 
> The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:
> 
>   It's an ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test...
>   like a pollster, asking 5 _ liars if they'll vote for Hillary or not.
> 
> You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
> nor General Relativity; in fact, they _ contradict each other.
> 
> The best you can do is:
> 
>   - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
>   - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).

Gods came from man's greatest fear(death) was add to this fear hell was invented. Those that don't believe the bible go to hell.Get the picture Ber

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#706425 — Re: "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice.

On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 11:07:50 AM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 5:56:42 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > Sam:
> > > > God DOES play dice with the universe !
> > 
> > News Flash:  Einstein was right, Sam is wrong.
> > 
> > "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice.
> > 
> > Once the cards are all dealt, and the dice stop rolling,
> > and the bets are paid out, the "probability wave" has collapsed.
> > 
> > The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:
> > 
> >   It's an ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test...
> >   like a pollster, asking 5 _ liars if they'll vote for Hillary or not.
> > 
> > You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
> > nor General Relativity; in fact, they _ contradict each other.
> > 
> > The best you can do is:
> > 
> >   - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
> >   - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).
> 
> Gods came from man's greatest fear(death) was add to this fear hell was invented. Those that don't believe the bible go to hell.Get the picture Ber


Bert, you spend a lot of time bashing God and religion.  Must mean you worry a lot about it possibly all being true!

Double-A

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#706455 — Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.

> > > Einstein was right, Sam is wrong.
> > > "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice.
> > 
> > Those that don't believe the bible go to hell.
> 
> Bert, you spend a lot of time bashing God and religion.
> Must mean you worry a lot about it possibly all being true!

Both Einstein and Neil deGrasse Tyson hate the word "atheist"
because people think it means you _ hate all religions,
when, in fact, you might enjoy parts of them, as I do.

George Harrison’s "My Sweet Lord" by "Family & Friends", Nov 2016:
  YouTube.COM/watch?v=4IrMlYDMDhM

Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.

Rama is the seventh avatar of Vishnu, 
one of his most popular incarnations,
along with Krishna, and Gautama Buddha.

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#706456 — Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.

On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 15:54:27 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:


>Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.

What kinda fucktard worships rabbits?

-- 

Yours Truly,
Gregory Hall

"Sometimes it's hard to tell them apart.
When he drowns in his shit bucket, I plan 
to nominate him for a Darwin." 
--Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

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#706457 — Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.

On 2018-10-06 4:00 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 15:54:27 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
> 
> 
>> Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.
> 
> What kinda fucktard worships rabbits?
> 
playboy

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#706459 — Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.

Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> wrote:

> On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 15:54:27 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
> 
> 
> >Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.
> 
> What kinda fucktard worships rabbits?

Harry, fish here, Harry, fish here
Fish here, fish here, hurry, Harry.
Harry Ramsden, Harry Ramsden
Ramsden, Ramsden, hurry, Harry.

-- 
^Ï^     My pet rock Gordon just is.

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#706463 — Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <9jfirdt1rtpvdrk7snhopja73nhi069d4s@4ax.com>, 
greghall@yacht_maester.fake says...


> 
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 15:54:27 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:
> 
> 
> >Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.
> 
> What kinda fucktard worships rabbits?

One of them hairy krishnas.

-- 
Checkmate ® 
Author, Humorist, Cynic
Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
Usenet Shot-Caller           
Copyright © 2018 
all rights reserved

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

"There are many here among us, 
who feel that life is but a joke."

"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
kensi."    -Nadegda  
Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me>

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#706573 — Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.

On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 3:54:42 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > > Einstein was right, Sam is wrong.
> > > > "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice.
> > > 
> > > Those that don't believe the bible go to hell.
> > 
> > Bert, you spend a lot of time bashing God and religion.
> > Must mean you worry a lot about it possibly all being true!
> 
> Both Einstein and Neil deGrasse Tyson hate the word "atheist"
> because people think it means you _ hate all religions,
> when, in fact, you might enjoy parts of them, as I do.
> 
> George Harrison’s "My Sweet Lord" by "Family & Friends", Nov 2016:
>   YouTube.COM/watch?v=4IrMlYDMDhM
> 
> Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.
> 
> Rama is the seventh avatar of Vishnu, 
> one of his most popular incarnations,
> along with Krishna, and Gautama Buddha.


Yeah, whatever.

Double-A

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#706596 — Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 3:01:07 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 3:54:42 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > > > Einstein was right, Sam is wrong.
> > > > > "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice.
> > > > 
> > > > Those that don't believe the bible go to hell.
> > > 
> > > Bert, you spend a lot of time bashing God and religion.
> > > Must mean you worry a lot about it possibly all being true!
> > 
> > Both Einstein and Neil deGrasse Tyson hate the word "atheist"
> > because people think it means you _ hate all religions,
> > when, in fact, you might enjoy parts of them, as I do.
> > 
> > George Harrison’s "My Sweet Lord" by "Family & Friends", Nov 2016:
> >   YouTube.COM/watch?v=4IrMlYDMDhM
> > 
> > Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.
> > 
> > Rama is the seventh avatar of Vishnu, 
> > one of his most popular incarnations,
> > along with Krishna, and Gautama Buddha.
> 
> 
> Yeah, whatever.
> 
> Double-A

AA Its is true in Gods there is death by the millions.Gods are in back of all wars. Its even possible that aliens planted the seeds of Gods so mankind can kill itself off.Because of Gods man will be dead by the billions before he hits the ground. That is reality.Gods are evil,as proven by their history. I speak for mankind. Bert

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#708065 — Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 6:41:14 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 3:01:07 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 3:54:42 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > > > > Einstein was right, Sam is wrong.
> > > > > > "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Those that don't believe the bible go to hell.
> > > > 
> > > > Bert, you spend a lot of time bashing God and religion.
> > > > Must mean you worry a lot about it possibly all being true!
> > > 
> > > Both Einstein and Neil deGrasse Tyson hate the word "atheist"
> > > because people think it means you _ hate all religions,
> > > when, in fact, you might enjoy parts of them, as I do.
> > > 
> > > George Harrison’s "My Sweet Lord" by "Family & Friends", Nov 2016:
> > >   YouTube.COM/watch?v=4IrMlYDMDhM
> > > 
> > > Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.
> > > 
> > > Rama is the seventh avatar of Vishnu, 
> > > one of his most popular incarnations,
> > > along with Krishna, and Gautama Buddha.
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah, whatever.
> > 
> > Double-A
> 
> AA Its is true in Gods there is death by the millions.Gods are in back of all wars. Its even possible that aliens planted the seeds of Gods so mankind can kill itself off.Because of Gods man will be dead by the billions before he hits the ground. That is reality.Gods are evil,as proven by their history. I speak for mankind. Bert


Stalin had no god.  Did that stop him from killing millions?

Double-A

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#708317 — Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.

On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 3:10:17 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 6:41:14 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 3:01:07 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 3:54:42 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > > > > > Einstein was right, Sam is wrong.
> > > > > > > "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Those that don't believe the bible go to hell.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bert, you spend a lot of time bashing God and religion.
> > > > > Must mean you worry a lot about it possibly all being true!
> > > > 
> > > > Both Einstein and Neil deGrasse Tyson hate the word "atheist"
> > > > because people think it means you _ hate all religions,
> > > > when, in fact, you might enjoy parts of them, as I do.
> > > > 
> > > > George Harrison’s "My Sweet Lord" by "Family & Friends", Nov 2016:
> > > >   YouTube.COM/watch?v=4IrMlYDMDhM
> > > > 
> > > > Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.
> > > > 
> > > > Rama is the seventh avatar of Vishnu, 
> > > > one of his most popular incarnations,
> > > > along with Krishna, and Gautama Buddha.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yeah, whatever.
> > > 
> > > Double-A
> > 
> > AA Its is true in Gods there is death by the millions.Gods are in back of all wars. Its even possible that aliens planted the seeds of Gods so mankind can kill itself off.Because of Gods man will be dead by the billions before he hits the ground. That is reality.Gods are evil,as proven by their history. I speak for mankind. Bert
> 
> 
> Stalin had no god.  Did that stop him from killing millions?
> 
> Double-A

Gods told all of humankind to smite  each other.Smit means kill and is in every bible.Get the picture.Its Smite smite smite all the way down.GOP Mafia smite JFK and Bobby.Is smite a better word than kill? Bert

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#708321 — First you kill God, then you take His place.

> > Stalin had no god.  Did that stop him from killing millions ?

For all of recorded history, some leader was "Thee One and Only God";
Stalin was no exception.  First you kill God, then you take His place.

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#708324 — Re: First you kill God, then you take His place.

On 2018-10-15 3:55 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>> Stalin had no god.  Did that stop him from killing millions ?
> 
> For all of recorded history, some leader was "Thee One and Only God";
> Stalin was no exception.  First you kill God, then you take His place.
> 
team up with him first and learn his operation before you move in ,
do i have to teach you guys everything

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#708345 — Re: First you kill God, then you take His place.

On 10/15/2018 05:55 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:
>>> Stalin had no god.  Did that stop him from killing millions ?
>
> For all of recorded history, some leader was "Thee One and Only God";
> Stalin was no exception.  First you kill God, then you take His place.
>

That's what all sinners do.

-- 
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

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#708348 — Re: Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.

On 2018-10-15 21:34:47 +0000, reber G=emc^2 said:

> On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 3:10:17 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
>> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 6:41:14 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 3:01:07 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 3:54:42 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>>>>>> Einstein was right, Sam is wrong.
>>>>>>>> "God" is nature; silly man is the one playing dice.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Those that don't believe the bible go to hell.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bert, you spend a lot of time bashing God and religion.
>>>>>> Must mean you worry a lot about it possibly all being true!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Both Einstein and Neil deGrasse Tyson hate the word "atheist"
>>>>> because people think it means you _ hate all religions,
>>>>> when, in fact, you might enjoy parts of them, as I do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> George Harrison’s "My Sweet Lord" by "Family & Friends", Nov 2016:
>>>>> YouTube.COM/watch?v=4IrMlYDMDhM
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rama is the seventh avatar of Vishnu,> > > > one of his most popular 
>>>>> incarnations,
>>>>> along with Krishna, and Gautama Buddha.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, whatever.
>>>> 
>>>> Double-A
>>> 
>>> AA Its is true in Gods there is death by the millions.Gods are in back 
>>> of all wars. Its even possible that aliens planted the seeds of Gods so 
>>> mankind can kill itself off.Because of Gods man will be dead by the 
>>> billions before he hits the ground. That is reality.Gods are evil,as 
>>> proven by their history. I speak for mankind. Bert
>> 
>> 
>> Stalin had no god.  Did that stop him from killing millions?
>> 
>> Double-A
> 
> Gods told all of humankind to smite  each other.Smit means kill and is 
> in every bible.Get the picture.Its Smite smite smite all the way 
> down.GOP Mafia smite JFK and Bobby.Is smite a better word than kill? 
> Bert

*
Bert:  I like your use of the word, "smite."  It is a good and useful 
word and we don't use it frequently enough.  Do you remember this Ogden 
Nash poem?

Senator Smoot (Republican, Ut.)
Is planning a ban on smut.
Oh rooti-ti-toot for Smoot of Ut.
And his reverent occiput.
Smite, Smoot, smite for Ut.,
Grit your molars and do your dut.,
Gird up your loins,
Smite hip and thigh,
We'll all be Kansas
By and By.

When smut's to be smitten
Smoot will smite
For God, for country,
And Fahrenheit.

earle
*

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#707865 — Idiots play dice; nature is _ not an idiot.

> John Bell proposed a brilliant method to resolve the issue.
> God DOES play dice with the universe!

Idiots play dice; nature is _ not an idiot.

Once the cards are all dealt, and the dice stop rolling,
and the bets are paid out, the "probability wave" has collapsed.

The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:

  It's an ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test...
  like a pollster, asking 5 _ liars if they'll vote for Hillary or not.

You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
nor General Relativity; in fact, they _ contradict each other.

The best you can do is:

  - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
  - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).

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