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  If Only Humankind Can Dump Gods "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 18:54 -0700
    Re: If Only Humankind Can Dump Gods "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-09 18:10 -0800
      Re: If Only Humankind Can Dump Gods mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-11-11 15:17 -0800
        Re: If Only Humankind Can Dump Gods "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-12 18:09 -0800
          Re: If Only Humankind Can Dump Gods "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 11:02 -0800
            Re: If Only Humankind Can Dump Gods Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-11-16 14:42 -0800
            Re: If Only Humankind Can Dump Gods Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 16:35 -0800
              Re: If Only Humankind Can Dump Gods "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 09:55 -0800
                Einstein had the same God as me. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-11-19 12:14 -0800
                  Re: Einstein had the same God as me. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-11-19 14:42 -0800
                    " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-11-19 16:02 -0800
                      Re: " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-11-19 16:17 -0800
                        Spinoza, Einstein, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and I _ love religion. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-11-19 16:33 -0800
                          Re: Spinoza, Einstein, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and I _ love religion. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-11-20 14:38 -0800
                            I've too many "friends". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-11-20 15:06 -0800
                        Re: " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 19:07 -0800
                          Re: " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 17:21 -0800
                            Re: " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 17:32 -0800
                              Re: " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 19:55 -0800
                            Drunken self delusion. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-11-21 17:33 -0800
                              Re: Drunken self delusion. ":2 Berger:" <hrumme4224@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 19:33 -0700
                                America at night. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-11-21 21:13 -0800
                                  America at Night, in 7k. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-11-22 00:43 -0800
                              Re: Drunken self delusion. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 02:53 -0800
                                What does your (ridiculous) cult think we're doing ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-11-22 04:10 -0800
                    Re: Einstein had the same God as me. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-11-19 16:04 -0800
                Re: If Only Humankind Can Dump Gods Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 18:34 -0800

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#711375 — If Only Humankind Can Dump Gods

It would be a safe Earth.No wars.No getto No burning crosses.Love one's fellow man.Help the homeless.Share one's food.Roosevelt did more for America than all its Gods. He gave us SS and now Trump who never paid taxes will cut it so the poor will have guns rather then starve.Bert

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#712245

On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 6:54:20 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> It would be a safe Earth.No wars.No getto No burning crosses.Love one's fellow man.Help the homeless.Share one's food.Roosevelt did more for America than all its Gods. He gave us SS and now Trump who never paid taxes will cut it so the poor will have guns rather then starve.Bert

The day is nearing when "we the people" will have a civil war with GOP Mafia,and take back USA. GOP Mafia makes sure all Waste Management people are armed.Get the picture Bert

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#712470

On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 6:10:39 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 6:54:20 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > It would be a safe Earth.No wars.No getto No burning crosses.Love one's fellow man.Help the homeless.Share one's food.Roosevelt did more for America than all its Gods. He gave us SS and now Trump who never paid taxes will cut it so the poor will have guns rather then starve.Bert
> 
> The day is nearing when "we the people" will have a civil war with GOP Mafia,and take back USA. GOP Mafia makes sure all Waste Management people are armed.Get the picture Bert

Hiding behind atheism Roy Masters?
But aren't you supposed to be the most religious?

Mitchell Raemsch

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#712603

On Sunday, November 11, 2018 at 3:17:07 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 6:10:39 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 6:54:20 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > It would be a safe Earth.No wars.No getto No burning crosses.Love one's fellow man.Help the homeless.Share one's food.Roosevelt did more for America than all its Gods. He gave us SS and now Trump who never paid taxes will cut it so the poor will have guns rather then starve.Bert
> > 
> > The day is nearing when "we the people" will have a civil war with GOP Mafia,and take back USA. GOP Mafia makes sure all Waste Management people are armed.Get the picture Bert
> 
> Hiding behind atheism Roy Masters?
> But aren't you supposed to be the most religious?
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch

My God is a God with a helping hand to all. A God that teaches love,ans has no bad words like "SMITE" No brain washing.But giving man brains to fight microbes that kill.Bert

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#712970

On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 6:09:04 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Sunday, November 11, 2018 at 3:17:07 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 6:10:39 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 6:54:20 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > > It would be a safe Earth.No wars.No getto No burning crosses.Love one's fellow man.Help the homeless.Share one's food.Roosevelt did more for America than all its Gods. He gave us SS and now Trump who never paid taxes will cut it so the poor will have guns rather then starve.Bert
> > > 
> > > The day is nearing when "we the people" will have a civil war with GOP Mafia,and take back USA. GOP Mafia makes sure all Waste Management people are armed.Get the picture Bert
> > 
> > Hiding behind atheism Roy Masters?
> > But aren't you supposed to be the most religious?
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> My God is a God with a helping hand to all. A God that teaches love,ans has no bad words like "SMITE" No brain washing.But giving man brains to fight microbes that kill.Bert

I can prove good microbes gave life to humankind.I can prove they keep us alive and clean the Earth.What can be proven what Gods can do? What a waste of time and energy believing in fake Gods.Time to stop saying what gods can do and think what harm they have done to man. Bert

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#712995

On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 11:02:09 AM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 6:09:04 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 11, 2018 at 3:17:07 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 6:10:39 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 6:54:20 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > > > It would be a safe Earth.No wars.No getto No burning crosses.Love one's fellow man.Help the homeless.Share one's food.Roosevelt did more for America than all its Gods. He gave us SS and now Trump who never paid taxes will cut it so the poor will have guns rather then starve.Bert
> > > > 
> > > > The day is nearing when "we the people" will have a civil war with GOP Mafia,and take back USA. GOP Mafia makes sure all Waste Management people are armed.Get the picture Bert
> > > 
> > > Hiding behind atheism Roy Masters?
> > > But aren't you supposed to be the most religious?
> > > 
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> > My God is a God with a helping hand to all. A God that teaches love,ans has no bad words like "SMITE" No brain washing.But giving man brains to fight microbes that kill.Bert
> 
> I can prove good microbes gave life to humankind.I can prove they keep us alive and clean the Earth.What can be proven what Gods can do? What a waste of time and energy believing in fake Gods.Time to stop saying what gods can do and think what harm they have done to man. Bert


Why is it that you atheists seem to do most of the talking about gods and religion?

Double-A

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#713010

On Saturday, 17 November 2018 06:02:09 UTC+11, reber G=emc^2  wrote:
> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 6:09:04 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 11, 2018 at 3:17:07 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 6:10:39 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 6:54:20 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > > > It would be a safe Earth.No wars.No getto No burning crosses.Love one's fellow man.Help the homeless.Share one's food.Roosevelt did more for America than all its Gods. He gave us SS and now Trump who never paid taxes will cut it so the poor will have guns rather then starve.Bert
> > > > 
> > > > The day is nearing when "we the people" will have a civil war with GOP Mafia,and take back USA. GOP Mafia makes sure all Waste Management people are armed.Get the picture Bert
> > > 
> > > Hiding behind atheism Roy Masters?
> > > But aren't you supposed to be the most religious?
> > > 
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> > My God is a God with a helping hand to all. A God that teaches love,ans has no bad words like "SMITE" No brain washing.But giving man brains to fight microbes that kill.Bert
> 
> I can prove good microbes gave life to humankind.I can prove they keep us alive and clean the Earth.What can be proven what Gods can do?

Gods and Goddesses create all life including microbes. We are part of Them, and go back to Them. The bad guys among us are atheists like you, good for nothing except doing evil in various forms: sarcasm, cynicism, projecting envy, boosting pornography, encouraging money-grubbing via pollution, starting wars, corrupting the arts and sciences, etc etc etc

What can theists do, but say, Pax Vobiscum, atheistic scum? Theism does not produce Pol Pots, Stalins, Maos, etc. A more peaceful bunch of atheists, is the best theists can expect from these misguided wretches.


Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

 What a waste of time and energy believing in fake Gods.Time to stop saying what gods can do and think what harm they have done to man. Bert

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#713373

On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 4:35:08 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Saturday, 17 November 2018 06:02:09 UTC+11, reber G=emc^2  wrote:
> > On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 6:09:04 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 11, 2018 at 3:17:07 PM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 6:10:39 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 6:54:20 PM UTC-7, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > > > > > It would be a safe Earth.No wars.No getto No burning crosses.Love one's fellow man.Help the homeless.Share one's food.Roosevelt did more for America than all its Gods. He gave us SS and now Trump who never paid taxes will cut it so the poor will have guns rather then starve.Bert
> > > > > 
> > > > > The day is nearing when "we the people" will have a civil war with GOP Mafia,and take back USA. GOP Mafia makes sure all Waste Management people are armed.Get the picture Bert
> > > > 
> > > > Hiding behind atheism Roy Masters?
> > > > But aren't you supposed to be the most religious?
> > > > 
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > 
> > > My God is a God with a helping hand to all. A God that teaches love,ans has no bad words like "SMITE" No brain washing.But giving man brains to fight microbes that kill.Bert
> > 
> > I can prove good microbes gave life to humankind.I can prove they keep us alive and clean the Earth.What can be proven what Gods can do?
> 
> Gods and Goddesses create all life including microbes. We are part of Them, and go back to Them. The bad guys among us are atheists like you, good for nothing except doing evil in various forms: sarcasm, cynicism, projecting envy, boosting pornography, encouraging money-grubbing via pollution, starting wars, corrupting the arts and sciences, etc etc etc
> 
> What can theists do, but say, Pax Vobiscum, atheistic scum? Theism does not produce Pol Pots, Stalins, Maos, etc. A more peaceful bunch of atheists, is the best theists can expect from these misguided wretches.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
> 
>  What a waste of time and energy believing in fake Gods.Time to stop saying what gods can do and think what harm they have done to man. Bert

My God plays crap,poker,and has great sex.Drinks wine with a splash.Can go faster than c,and loves me. Why not Bert

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#713389 — Einstein had the same God as me.

> My God plays craps, poker, and has great sex.
> Drinks wine with a splash of the hard stuff.

Einstein had the same God as me:

  Nature ( nothing more, nothing less ).

Your "God" was created in man's image: a drunken fool.
VERY mainstream.

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#713418 — Re: Einstein had the same God as me.

On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 12:14:25 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > My God plays craps, poker, and has great sex.
> > Drinks wine with a splash of the hard stuff.
> 
> Einstein had the same God as me:
> 
>   Nature ( nothing more, nothing less ).
> 
> Your "God" was created in man's image: a drunken fool.
> VERY mainstream.


What did Einstein really think?

I a letter written to philosopher Eric Gutkind in January 1954, Einstein wrote,
"the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish." "For me," he added, "the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions."

Double-A

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#713433 — " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein

> > Like Einstein, I say "God" is _ Nature ( nothing more, nothing less ).
> > Your (mainstream) "God" was created in man's image: a drunken fool.
> 
> What did Einstein really think ?

" Einstein's God was the Universe itself "
-- Eugene Mallove, The Washington Post, December 22, 1985.

" According to Spinoza, God is Nature and Nature is God. "
-- WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Ethics_(Spinoza)#God_or_Nature_-_Deus_sive_Natura

" We followers of Spinoza see out God in the wonderful order 
  and lawfulness of [ nature ] " 
-- Einstein to Eduard Büsching, Oct. 25, 1929

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#713437 — Re: " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein

On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:02:19 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > Like Einstein, I say "God" is _ Nature ( nothing more, nothing less ).
> > > Your (mainstream) "God" was created in man's image: a drunken fool.
> > 
> > What did Einstein really think ?
> 
> " Einstein's God was the Universe itself "
> -- Eugene Mallove, The Washington Post, December 22, 1985.
> 
> " According to Spinoza, God is Nature and Nature is God. "
> -- WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Ethics_(Spinoza)#God_or_Nature_-_Deus_sive_Natura
> 
> " We followers of Spinoza see out God in the wonderful order 
>   and lawfulness of [ nature ] " 
> -- Einstein to Eduard Büsching, Oct. 25, 1929


Einstein and Spinoza were both Jewish atheists.

Double-A

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#713442 — Spinoza, Einstein, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and I _ love religion.

> Einstein and Spinoza were both Jewish atheists.

Neil deGrasse Tyson too.

But not one of them would dare call themselves "atheist", 
because most people think of "atheism" as AntiReligious.

Spinoza, Einstein, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and I _ love religion.

Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus:

  YouTube.COM/watch?v=4IrMlYDMDhM

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#713597 — Re: Spinoza, Einstein, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and I _ love religion.

On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:33:08 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > Einstein and Spinoza were both Jewish atheists.
> 
> Neil deGrasse Tyson too.
> 
> But not one of them would dare call themselves "atheist", 
> because most people think of "atheism" as AntiReligious.
> 
> Spinoza, Einstein, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and I _ love religion.
> 
> Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Hare Jesus:
> 
>   YouTube.COM/watch?v=4IrMlYDMDhM


You sound like you would make a good Unitarian, Jeff, with all your talk about God being Nature.  Sam finds himself at home with them.

Double-A

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#713604 — I've too many "friends".

> You sound like you would make a good Unitarian, Jeff, 
> with all your talk about God being Nature.
> Sam finds himself at home with them.

Maybe so, but I can never be lonely enough;
I've too many "friends" as it is.

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#713682 — Re: " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein

On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:17:33 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote:
> On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:02:19 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > > Like Einstein, I say "God" is _ Nature ( nothing more, nothing less ).
> > > > Your (mainstream) "God" was created in man's image: a drunken fool.
> > > 
> > > What did Einstein really think ?
> > 
> > " Einstein's God was the Universe itself "
> > -- Eugene Mallove, The Washington Post, December 22, 1985.
> > 
> > " According to Spinoza, God is Nature and Nature is God. "
> > -- WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Ethics_(Spinoza)#God_or_Nature_-_Deus_sive_Natura
> > 
> > " We followers of Spinoza see out God in the wonderful order 
> >   and lawfulness of [ nature ] " 
> > -- Einstein to Eduard Büsching, Oct. 25, 1929
> 
> 
> Einstein and Spinoza were both Jewish atheists.
> 
> Double-A

I am not an atheist.Nor were they.They like me think in every direction.They like me have read the history of Gods Greek,Roman ,Hebrew,India,Indian Chinese African etc. If like the American Indian are close to Earth's nature that fits best.In reality the universe is so big.Has so many mistories that no one answer could ever fit. A no source,no energy no mass identity only made factual in a book with fable stories.(kids Once Upon a Time fairy tales.) I say shame on humankind to believe such nonsense .Bert

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#713885 — Re: " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein

Those atheistic fools and scoundrels, so full of ego and intelligence, so totally without insight, have read a lot but understood nothing. 

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#713892 — Re: " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein

On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 5:21:34 PM UTC-8, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> Those atheistic fools and scoundrels, so full of ego and intelligence, so totally without insight, have read a lot but understood nothing.

Its reality that nature books can give you insight so you can see reality.Bible is for children so they become brain washed in believing in heaven the home of God,and hell the home of the devil. O ya Bert

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#713925 — Re: " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein

Reality is that atheists are actually or potentially parasitic upon the creativity and organisation of the theists. The worst among atheists are murderous scum, like the hypocritical theists who are actually atheists.

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#713893 — Drunken self delusion.

Arindam Banerjee replied:
> > " God is Nature and Nature is God " -- Spinoza, Einstein
> 
> Those atheistic fools and scoundrels, so full of ego and intelligence,
> so totally without insight, have read a lot but understood nothing. 

What "ego" ? !

  Maximal consumption has been programmed into us ( by nature ).
  Ways to do it:

    1. Live Fast ( consume more now ), Die Fast.
    2. Live Slow, Die Later ( consume longer ).
    3. Sacrifice yourself for the tribe, so they can consume more, longer.

  Either way, the (PreProgrammed) objective is the same: consume.
  We ( you, me, and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options.

This, above, is devoid of drunken self delusion.

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