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  I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-03-30 01:54 -0700
    Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-03-30 11:14 +0200
      Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-03-30 07:38 -0400
      Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-30 07:17 -0500
        No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! ! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-03-30 13:07 -0700
          21 lines, 74 columns, no macros. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-03-30 20:21 -0700
          Re: No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! ! Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2017-04-03 06:12 +0000
            No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! ! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-04-03 00:42 -0700
              Re: No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! ! Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2017-04-04 06:08 +0000
                Re: No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! ! Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-04-04 09:06 -0400
                  Re: No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! ! Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-04-04 09:08 -0400
                    You know it's inlined when you can't set a break point on it. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-04-04 10:47 -0700
                      Re: You know it's inlined when you can't set a break point on it. Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-04-04 14:08 -0400
            Re: No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! ! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-04 07:23 -0500
              Re: No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! ! Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 12:43 -0400
      Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. "jasper@shared-secrets.com" <jasper@shared-secrets.com> - 2017-04-10 00:58 +0000
        Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-10 08:36 +0200
          Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-10 06:51 -0500
            Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-10 08:12 -0400
              Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-10 14:22 +0200
                Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-10 12:10 -0400
                  Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-10 19:48 +0200
                    Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2017-04-10 19:12 +0100
                      Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-10 13:38 -0500
                        Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-10 15:14 -0400
                        Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-10 18:52 -0400
                          Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-10 19:22 -0400
                    Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-10 15:13 -0400
                      Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-10 13:04 -0700
                  Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-04-10 22:07 -0400
              Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-10 07:48 -0500
                Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-10 12:11 -0400
              Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2017-04-11 07:33 +0200
            Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-10 09:48 -0700
              Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-10 19:46 +0200
                Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-10 11:05 -0700
            Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Cornelis Tromp <nobody@holland.remailer.nl> - 2017-04-11 06:41 +0100
          Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-10 08:12 -0400
            Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-10 14:22 +0200
              Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-10 12:13 -0400
                Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-10 19:44 +0200
                  Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-10 11:13 -0700
                  Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-10 15:17 -0400
                    Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-10 12:36 -0700
                      Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-10 23:29 +0200
                        Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-10 14:41 -0700
                  Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-10 18:48 -0400
    Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2017-04-10 07:08 -0400
    Re: I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201704.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2017-04-10 13:53 +0000

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#625912 — I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML.

I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML.
To Register ( in German ): http://open-news-network.org/register
Once registered, use:  News.MB-Net.NET:119

When you post, it puts your IP address in the header.
It drops all posts from anonymous remailers, and such.

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#625913

 wrote:

> I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML.
> To Register ( in German ): http://open-news-network.org/register
> Once registered, use:  News.MB-Net.NET:119
> 
> When you post, it puts your IP address in the header.
> It drops all posts from anonymous remailers, and such.

Please use HTML now exclusively.

You know, I have set up my newsreader to drop HTML posts completely as those 
come from completely clueless cretins not worth reading

That way it is a win-win situation: You can post your shite, and I will not 
see any of it.

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#625918

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On 30/03/17 05:14 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> wrote:
> 
>> I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML. To
>> Register ( in German ): http://open-news-network.org/register 
>> Once registered, use:  News.MB-Net.NET:119
>> 
>> When you post, it puts your IP address in the header. It drops
>> all posts from anonymous remailers, and such.
> 
> Please use HTML now exclusively.
> 
> You know, I have set up my newsreader to drop HTML posts completely
> as those come from completely clueless cretins not worth reading
> 
> That way it is a win-win situation: You can post your shite, and I
> will not see any of it.

ROFL. Peter made a great funny.

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#625922

Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> Relf wrote:
>>
>> (gibber snipped)
>
>Please use HTML now exclusively.
>
>You know, I have set up my newsreader to drop HTML posts completely as those 
>come from completely clueless cretins not worth reading
>
>That way it is a win-win situation: You can post your shite, and I will not 
>see any of it.

I don't see HTML, either.  In any case, Relf is, of course, plonked.

-- 
"(chrisv) claims (Relf's) code is shitty. Let's see him substantiate
it with some facts and a code analysis."  -  Ezekreep

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#625988 — No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! !

2 weeks ago, you ( DFS ) showed me your "readable and maintainable" code:

  int isleapyear(int yr) {
   if(((yr%4==0) && (yr%100!=0)) || (yr%400==0))
    {return 0;}
   return -1; 
  }    //  oackac$fve$1@dont-email.me

Then I showed you my "kooky and oddly formatted" version of it:

  #define  isLeapYear(y) ( !( y%400 ) || y%100 && !( y%4 ) )

No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! !

Shannon Entropy ( poorly ) estimates:
  the minimum number of bits needed to _encode data.

But I don't want to _encode/_decode anything; even if I did, 
Shannon Entropy can't predict the algorithm I'd use.

In thermodynamics "entropy" is how uniform the heat energy is;
i.e. how _spent it is, so it can't produce "Work" ( force*distance ).
In cosmology, we call this "heat death", the end of all "life".

What does "spent energy" have to do with compression ? ! nothing.

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#626049 — 21 lines, 74 columns, no macros.

You ( DFS ) asked me:
> > What does "spent energy" have to do with compression ? ! nothing.
> 
> What's all this overmedicated rambling about?

"Shannon Entropy" is misnomer, and I've no use for it.

> It's a tiny program - around 50 lines probably

Yours was 62 lines, 90 columns, not counting the #includes;
mine is 21 lines, 74 columns, no macros, Sh() is printf( L"\n" ); to wit:

  int Len, _Len, Row, Cnt ;  float  Dist, BitsRow, Bits ;
  wchar_t  TheCh, Data[] = L"Abbcccdddd1223334444" ;  
  Row = Bits = 0, Len = sizeof Data / sizeof *Data - 1 ;
  Sh( L"%d Glyphs in \" %s \".", Len, Data );
  Sh();
  Sh( L"  #  Glyph  Cnt   Dist   D*log2(D)   H(X) sum  ");
  Sh( L"  -- -----  ---  ------  ---------  ----------  ");
  Row:    Row++, _Len = Len, TheCh = Cnt = 0 ;
 
  while( --_Len >= 0 ) { wchar_t  &aCh = Data[ _Len ];
    if ( !aCh ) continue ;  if ( !TheCh ) TheCh = aCh ;
    if ( aCh == TheCh ) aCh = 0, Cnt++ ;  }

  if ( !Cnt ) goto Done ;    
  Dist = float( Cnt )/Len, BitsRow = Dist*log2f( Dist ), Bits += BitsRow ;
  Sh( L"   %d   %c     %d    %.3f    %.3f     %.5f  ", 
    Row, TheCh, Cnt, Dist, BitsRow, -1*Bits );    goto Row ;

  Done:    Sh();
  Sh( L" Shannon Entropy: %.5f bits.  ", -1*Bits );
  Sh( L"  Metric Entropy: %.5f bits per Glyph.  ", -1*Bits / Len );

  //    20 Glyphs in " Abbcccdddd1223334444 ".
  //  
  //    #  Glyph  Cnt   Dist   D*log2(D)   H(X) sum  
  //    -- -----  ---  ------  ---------  ----------  
  //     1   A     1    0.050    -0.216     0.21610  
  //     2   b     2    0.100    -0.332     0.54829  
  //     3   c     3    0.150    -0.411     0.95883  
  //     4   d     4    0.200    -0.464     1.42322  
  //     5   1     1    0.050    -0.216     1.63932  
  //     6   2     2    0.100    -0.332     1.97151  
  //     7   3     3    0.150    -0.411     2.38205  
  //     8   4     4    0.200    -0.464     2.84644  
  //  
  //   Shannon Entropy: 2.84644 bits.  
  //    Metric Entropy: 0.14232 bits per Glyph.  

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#626541 — Re: No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! !

In comp.lang.c++ Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Then I showed you my "kooky and oddly formatted" version of it:

Who are you talking to?

>   #define  isLeapYear(y) ( !( y%400 ) || y%100 && !( y%4 ) )

And you immediately show the danger of using macros. Just consider what
happens if you call it eg. like isLeapYear(a+b).

Even when you fix the macro, there's still the problem of calling it
like isLeapYear(someReallyExpensiveFunctionThatTakesAMinuteToReturn()).

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#626546 — No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! !

> > 2 weeks ago, you ( DFS ) showed me 
> > your "readable and maintainable" code:
> > 
> >   int isleapyear(int yr) {
> >    if(((yr%4==0) && (yr%100!=0)) || (yr%400==0))
> >     {return 0;}
> >    return -1; 
> >   }    //  oackac$fve$1@dont-email.me
> > 
> > Then I showed you my "kooky and oddly formatted" version of it:
> > 
> >   #define  isLeapYear(y) ( !( y%400 ) || y%100 && !( y%4 ) )
> 
> Who are you talking to?

Mr. DFS, see above; the thread ( oldest first ):

            JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--1.54A.Seattle.2017
          PeterKöhlmann  obii4i$m36$1@dont-email.me
        MrChrisV  njtpdc5354qqii10m80t3htjglscka44rs@4ax.com
      MrDFS  obj166$7rj$3@dont-email.me
    JeffRelf  Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.30--1.07P.Seattle.2017
  Juha_Nieminen  obsp3m$11mu$1@adenine.netfront.net

> Consider what happens if you call it eg. like isLeapYear(a+b).
> Even when you fix the macro, there's still the problem of calling it
> like isLeapYear(someReallyExpensiveFunctionThatTakesAMinuteToReturn()).

Thanks for dreaming up scary scenarios however, 
like guns and knives, macros are useful too, not just dangerous.
No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros.

Here's some more "scary" macros for you...

MicroSoft's WinMerge uses this this algorithm:
" Dynamic Programming | Set 4 (Longest Common Subsequence) "
  http://www.geeksforgeeks.org/dynamic-programming-set-4-longest-common-subsequence/

My code, below, produces the same results as WinMerge:

  //  ScreenShot:  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
  //  Help/Settings:  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM

  //  _FileCmp(), below, records thousands of matching lines ( text ),
  //  LeftOlder vs RightNewer, using the "LongestCommonSequence"
  //  ( shortest diffs ) algorithm.
  //  
  //  BB is a pointer to the start of 
  //  a dynamic array of ( contiguous ) pointers ( lines );
  //  PP points to the end of the array.
  //  
  //   BB and  PP are from the LeftOlder file.
  //  _BB and _PP are from the RightNewer file.

  _FileCmp( LnA BB, LnA _BB, LnA PP, LnA _PP, LnT &Ln ) { 

    int Rows = PP - BB + 1, Cols = _PP - _BB + 1 ;  u64 Row = Rows, Col = Cols ;

    //  Allocate a " LeftOlderLines * RightNewerLines " table of 32 bit integers
    //  to store all LongestCommonSequence Lengths.
 
    pInt _Table = (pInt)MallocTmp( Rows * Cols * szInt );
    { LoopRow( Rows ) { LoopCol( Cols ) { 

        if ( !Row || !Col ) { Table( Row, Col ) = 0 ;  continue ;  }
        if ( aMatch ) Table( Row, Col ) = Table( Row - 1, Col - 1 ) + 1 ; 
        else Table( Row, Col ) = ER( Table( Row, Col - 1 ), Table( Row - 1, Col ) );  } } }

    //  " Ln " is a dynamic array of thousands of ( contiguous ) 64 bit pointers,
    //  repurosed to store two 32 bit intergers ( Row and Col ) in a pointer.
    //  If both files are the same, with X Lines, it'll store X RowCol pairs.
    //  
    //  The first " StoreRowColumn ", below, stores the end of the files;
    //  the last is first, and vice versa; it's reversed.

    Zero( Ln ), StoreRowColumn;  
    while ( Row > 0 && Col > 0 ) 
      if ( aMatch ) StoreRowColumn ;
      else Table( Row, Col - 1 ) > Table( Row - 1, Col ) ? Col-- : Row-- ;  }

Near Globals:

  //  Access " _Table ", a One Dimensional array, as if it were Two Dimensional.
  #define  Table( i, j )  _Table[ ( j ) * Rows + i ]

  //  F[-1] is the ( 16 bit ) length of the leading whitespace.
  #define  aMatch  ( F = BB[ Row - 1 ], _F = _BB[ Col - 1 ], F[-1] == _F[-1] && Eq( F, _F ) )

  //  Store the matching lines as line numbers from LeftOlder and RightNewer 
  #define  StoreRowColumn  ( Inc( Ln ) = LnP( Row - 1 << 32 | Col - 1 ), Row--, Col-- )

  LnP  F, _F ;

Far Globals:

  #define  Zero( X )  memset( & X, 0, sizeof X )
  #define  Eq  !strCmp

  #define  LoopRows( N )  int  Row = -1, eRow = ( N ) - 1 ; while ( ++Row <= eRow )
  #define  LoopCols( N )  int  Col = -1, eCol = ( N ) - 1 ; while ( ++Col <= eCol )

  typedef wchar_t  wchar ;  typedef wchar  *LnP ;  typedef  LnP  *LnA ; 
  typedef int  *pInt ;  typedef void  *Void_P ;  typedef unsigned __int64  u64 ;
  const int  szInt = sizeof( int );

  struct  LnT { LnA  BB, PP, maxPP ;  };  LnT  Ln ;

  //  " Inc() ", below, dynamically allocates thousands of ( contiguous ) pointers.
  //  When diff is done, " Temp_Heap " is simply destroyed.

  template < typename TyT, typename TyA, typename TyP >
  TyP & Inc( TyT  & Xx, int N ) {  int I_PP, I_PP_New, I_maxPP, rv, Sz, Temp_Heap = N >= 0 ;  if ( !Temp_Heap ) N = 1 ;
    I_PP = !Xx.PP ? -1 : Xx.PP - Xx.BB, I_maxPP = !Xx.maxPP ? 0 : Xx.maxPP - Xx.BB, I_PP_New = I_PP + N ;  if( I_maxPP < 0 ) exit(1);
    if ( I_PP_New < I_maxPP ) {    OK:    return  Xx.PP = Xx.BB + I_PP_New, *Xx.PP ;  }
    rv = ER( 1024, 3 * I_PP_New ), Sz = 16 + rv * szPtr ; 
    Xx.maxPP = Xx.BB = TyA( Temp_Heap ? ReAllocTmp( Xx.BB, ++I_PP * szPtr, Sz ) : realloc( Xx.BB, Sz ) ), Xx.maxPP += rv ;
    if( !Xx.BB ) exit(1);  goto OK ;    }

  LnP &Inc( LnT &Ln ) { return Inc< LnT, LnA, LnP>( Ln,  1 ) ;  }

  LnP ReAllocTmp( Void_P B⁰, int Sz⁰, int Sz ) { Void_P  B = B⁰ ; if ( Sz > 0 && Sz > Sz⁰ ) B = MallocTmp( Sz );
    if ( B⁰ && Sz⁰ > 0 ) memmove( B, B⁰, Sz⁰ );  return LnP( B );  }

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#626761 — Re: No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! !

In comp.lang.c++ Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> >   #define  isLeapYear(y) ( !( y%400 ) || y%100 && !( y%4 ) )

>> Consider what happens if you call it eg. like isLeapYear(a+b).
>> Even when you fix the macro, there's still the problem of calling it
>> like isLeapYear(someReallyExpensiveFunctionThatTakesAMinuteToReturn()).
> 
> Thanks for dreaming up scary scenarios however, 

Dreaming up scary scenarios... Something like isLeapYear(a+b) is not
a stretch in any way. It's something that anybody would write. And your
macro would give the wrong answer.

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#626795 — Re: No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! !

On 4/4/2017 2:08 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> In comp.lang.c++ Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>>   #define  isLeapYear(y) ( !( y%400 ) || y%100 && !( y%4 ) )
> 
>>> Consider what happens if you call it eg. like isLeapYear(a+b).
>>> Even when you fix the macro, there's still the problem of calling it
>>> like isLeapYear(someReallyExpensiveFunctionThatTakesAMinuteToReturn()).
>>
>> Thanks for dreaming up scary scenarios however, 
> 
> Dreaming up scary scenarios... Something like isLeapYear(a+b) is not
> a stretch in any way. It's something that anybody would write. And your
> macro would give the wrong answer.
> 

And it is easily fixed by coding the macro correctly:

#define isLeapYear(y) ( !( (y)%400 ) || (y)%100 && !( (y)%4 ) )

You can code incorrectly in *any* language.

-- 
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#626796 — Re: No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! !

On 4/4/2017 9:06 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 4/4/2017 2:08 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
>> In comp.lang.c++ Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>>>   #define  isLeapYear(y) ( !( y%400 ) || y%100 && !( y%4 ) )
>>
>>>> Consider what happens if you call it eg. like isLeapYear(a+b).
>>>> Even when you fix the macro, there's still the problem of calling it
>>>> like isLeapYear(someReallyExpensiveFunctionThatTakesAMinuteToReturn()).
>>>
>>> Thanks for dreaming up scary scenarios however, 
>>
>> Dreaming up scary scenarios... Something like isLeapYear(a+b) is not
>> a stretch in any way. It's something that anybody would write. And your
>> macro would give the wrong answer.
>>
> 
> And it is easily fixed by coding the macro correctly:
> 
> #define isLeapYear(y) ( !( (y)%400 ) || (y)%100 && !( (y)%4 ) )
> 
> You can code incorrectly in *any* language.
> 

(too fast on the send button)

That still doesn't solve the problem of isLeapYear(j++).  But it doesn't
make macros any more or less evil than other statements.

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#626851 — You know it's inlined when you can't set a break point on it.

Jerry Stuckle, Juha Nieminen, Mr. DFS... this would be be better:

  inline int isLeapYear( int y ) { return !( y%400 ) || y%100 && !( y%4 );  }

You know it's inlined when you can't set a break point on it.

Previously ( Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.29--1.34P.Seattle.2017 ), I asked DFS:  ＜＜

  Why reinvent the "mktime()" wheel, doesn't Python have it ?

    i64 aDate ;  tm DayRec = {};
    DayRec.tm_mon = Month ;  // 0..11
    DayRec.tm_mday = DayOfTheMonth ; // 1..31
    DayRec.tm_year = Year - 1900, aDate = mktime( &DayRec );
  
  You can add 200 days to DayRec.tm_mday, 
  and call mktime( &DayRec ) to normalize .tm_mday to 1..31, 
  adjusting .tm_mon and .tm_year accordingly.  ＞＞


He didn't answer.

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#626853 — Re: You know it's inlined when you can't set a break point on it.

On 4/4/2017 1:47 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle, Juha Nieminen, Mr. DFS... this would be be better:
> 
>   inline int isLeapYear( int y ) { return !( y%400 ) || y%100 && !( y%4 );  }
> 
> You know it's inlined when you can't set a break point on it.
>

That isn't a macro.

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#626791 — Re: No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! !

Juha Nieminen wrote:

>In comp.lang.c++ Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

*plonk*

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#626833 — Re: No _serious programming language lacks "evil" macros ! !

On 2017-04-04 8:23 AM, chrisv wrote:
> Juha Nieminen wrote:
> 
>> In comp.lang.c++ Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> 
> *plonk*

LOL.


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#628119

On 30 Mar 2017, Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?=
<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> posted some
news:obii4i$m36$1@dont-email.me: 

>  wrote:
> 
>> I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML.
>> To Register ( in German ): http://open-news-network.org/register
>> Once registered, use:  News.MB-Net.NET:119
>> 
>> When you post, it puts your IP address in the header.
>> It drops all posts from anonymous remailers, and such.
> 
> Please use HTML now exclusively.
> 
> You know, I have set up my newsreader to drop HTML posts completely as
> those come from completely clueless cretins not worth reading
> 
> That way it is a win-win situation: You can post your shite, and I
> will not see any of it.

Now if you could only make Linux as useful and user fiendly as Windows.

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#628181

jasper@shared-secrets.com wrote:

> On 30 Mar 2017, Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?=
> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> posted some
> news:obii4i$m36$1@dont-email.me:
> 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I found a CostFree INN ( Usenet ) server that allows HTML.
>>> To Register ( in German ): http://open-news-network.org/register
>>> Once registered, use:  News.MB-Net.NET:119
>>> 
>>> When you post, it puts your IP address in the header.
>>> It drops all posts from anonymous remailers, and such.
>> 
>> Please use HTML now exclusively.
>> 
>> You know, I have set up my newsreader to drop HTML posts completely as
>> those come from completely clueless cretins not worth reading
>> 
>> That way it is a win-win situation: You can post your shite, and I
>> will not see any of it.
> 
> Now if you could only make Linux as useful and user fiendly as Windows.

Why would I remove userfriendlyness and usefullness from linux to dumb it 
down to "windows standards"?

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#628199

Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> jasper@shared-secrets.com wrote:
>> 
>> Now if you could only make Linux as useful and user fiendly as Windows.
>
>Why would I remove userfriendlyness and usefullness from linux to dumb it 
>down to "windows standards"?

People tend to forget about the struggles that they have with Windows.
Finding and installing all the software needed to make it useful,
defending against malware...

-- 
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give or take"  -  Hadron "works for me (and everyone I know)" Quark

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#628203

On 2017-04-10 7:51 AM, chrisv wrote:
> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> 
>> jasper@shared-secrets.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Now if you could only make Linux as useful and user fiendly as Windows.
>>
>> Why would I remove userfriendlyness and usefullness from linux to dumb it 
>> down to "windows standards"?
> 
> People tend to forget about the struggles that they have with Windows.
> Finding and installing all the software needed to make it useful,
> defending against malware...

Doing all of that isn't very difficult; it's doing everything necessary
to get _rid_ of the malware which made its way onto your system despite
all of your best efforts that is difficult.

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#628205

Silver-Tongued Heel wrote:

> On 2017-04-10 7:51 AM, chrisv wrote:
>> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>> 
>>> jasper@shared-secrets.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Now if you could only make Linux as useful and user fiendly as Windows.
>>>
>>> Why would I remove userfriendlyness and usefullness from linux to dumb
>>> it down to "windows standards"?
>> 
>> People tend to forget about the struggles that they have with Windows.
>> Finding and installing all the software needed to make it useful,
>> defending against malware...
> 
> Doing all of that isn't very difficult; it's doing everything necessary
> to get _rid_ of the malware which made its way onto your system despite
> all of your best efforts that is difficult.
> 

It is not "difficult". It is impossible

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