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| First post | 2019-03-02 12:16 -0800 |
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At the BB Infinite Time Infinite Space Infinite Gravity Was Needed "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-03-02 12:16 -0800
Entropy is eternal. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2019-03-02 18:27 -0800
Re: Entropy is eternal. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-02 21:40 -0500
Your world will end. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2019-03-03 01:45 -0800
Re: Your world will end. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-03-03 11:17 -0500
| From | "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-03-02 12:16 -0800 |
| Subject | At the BB Infinite Time Infinite Space Infinite Gravity Was Needed |
| Message-ID | <6d9a47b7-2505-47e3-aecc-6eb810c4b805@googlegroups.com> |
Then when the universe was created it slowed to c for magnetic waves.Particles could get to 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 of c but going this close to c made them very creative.Bert
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2019-03-02 18:27 -0800 |
| Subject | Entropy is eternal. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2--6.27pm.Seattle.2019> |
| In reply to | #729962 |
Entropy is eternal; The Known Universe is going infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse.
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| From | "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> |
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| Date | 2019-03-02 21:40 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Entropy is eternal. |
| Message-ID | <8cfm7e541rb3gk76jf98kl674upboefnfi@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #730026 |
On Sat, 02 Mar 2019 18:27:46 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote: >Entropy is eternal; >The Known Universe is going infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. Your assumption is based upon faulty premises. 1) arrow of time goes only one way - into the future; this has not yet been proven 2) you don't know if there is enough dark matter to reverse the expansion 3) you don't believe God who says, "world without end". Open your mind to ALL the possibilities. Don't be an entropy chauvinist. -- Everybødy here likes Yøurs Truly, Gregøry Hall - Bømbastic Løudmøuth øf the Søuth
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2019-03-03 01:45 -0800 |
| Subject | Your world will end. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.3--1.45am.Seattle.2019> |
| In reply to | #730028 |
Greg to me:
> > Entropy is eternal; The Known Universe is going
> > from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse.
>
> 1) the arrow of time goes only one way - into the future ?
> no, this has not yet been proven
"Cause and effect" ( the four dimensional time-scape )
is most certainly static, immutable, eternal;
even if we can't fully prove it, nothing refutes it.
Our ignorance is not proof that "God" (nature) is random.
> 2) you don't know if there is enough dark matter
> to reverse the expansion
"dark energy" is entropy;
"dark matter" is hyper-cold, unseen, degenerate mass.
12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of
695 trillion suns ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ); in comparison,
the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns.
The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago,
hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts.
> 3) you don't believe God who says, "world without end".
Your world will end.
> Open your mind to ALL the possibilities.
> Don't be an entropy chauvinist.
You should try to understand today's physics first,
before attempting to (SLIGHTLY) improve on it.
You think you know better than Einstein, you don't.
Every SnakeOil salesman denies entropy,
and Greg is no exception.
Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington wrote: <<
If someone points out to you that
your pet theory of the universe is
in disagreement with Maxwell's equations --
then, so much the worse for Maxwell's equations.
If it is found to be contradicted by observers --
well, these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes.
But, if your theory is found to be
against the second law of thermodynamics,
I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but
to collapse in deepest humiliation. >>
-- From "The Nature of the Physical World", 1915, chapter 4.
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| From | "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> |
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| Date | 2019-03-03 11:17 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Your world will end. |
| Message-ID | <9sun7epm6chlmljj4dfs0be5qig0s0o918@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #730060 |
On Sun, 03 Mar 2019, Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote: >Greg to me: >> > Entropy is eternal; The Known Universe is going >> > from infinitely hot/dense to infinitely cold/sparse. >> >> 1) the arrow of time goes only one way - into the future ? >> no, this has not yet been proven > >"Cause and effect" ( the four dimensional time-scape ) >is most certainly static, immutable, eternal; >even if we can't fully prove it, nothing refutes it. > >Our ignorance is not proof that "God" (nature) is random. You readily admit ignorance yet you blindly believe in certain "laws of physics". Not very enlightened of you, Jeff. >> 2) you don't know if there is enough dark matter >> to reverse the expansion > >"dark energy" is entropy; >"dark matter" is hyper-cold, unseen, degenerate mass. Nope, dark matter is called dark matter because it can be shown to be *there* and has mass but is otherwise unknown. > 12.5 billion years ago, quasar J2157-3602 had the power of > 695 trillion suns ( 2.66×10^41 Watts ); in comparison, > the most luminous hypernovae (ASASSN-15lh) peaked at 572 billion suns. > > The Known Universe had less entropy 12.5 billion years ago, > hence the greater luminosity/power/Watts. Less entropy back then, sure. I'll bite but it then logically follows that it had more entropy *potential* to balance the equation. >> 3) you don't believe God who says, "world without end". > >Your world will end. My world is the universe in which I exist. Should I fail to exist then, yes, my world will end. But, that isn't God's meaning. God has placed corporal bodies very low on his list and this, in a way, verifies His and His universe being infinite in time and matter. >> Open your mind to ALL the possibilities. >> Don't be an entropy chauvinist. > >You should try to understand today's physics first, >before attempting to (SLIGHTLY) improve on it. >You think you know better than Einstein, you don't. Einstein is your false god. His guesses are no proof. >Every SnakeOil salesman denies entropy, >and Greg is no exception. Entropy is denied the minute you stop blindly accepting an ever-expanding universe. A universe that stops expanding and falls back in on itself will increase in entropy. >Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington wrote: ?? > > If someone points out to you that > your pet theory of the universe is > in disagreement with Maxwell's equations -- > then, so much the worse for Maxwell's equations. > > If it is found to be contradicted by observers -- > well, these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes. > > But, if your theory is found to be > against the second law of thermodynamics, > I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but > to collapse in deepest humiliation. ?? > > -- From "The Nature of the Physical World", 1915, chapter 4. False prophets everywhere. -- Everybødy here likes Yøurs Truly, Gregøry Hall - Bømbastic Løudmøuth øf the Søuth
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