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  Does this sound familiar ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-19 04:48 -0700
    Re: Does this sound familiar ? Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 09:19 -0500
      Karl Marx lived it. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-19 08:08 -0700
        Re: Karl Marx lived it. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 10:23 -0500
          Marx lied. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-19 08:53 -0700
            Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 08:59 -0700
              Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:04 -0500
                Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 09:11 -0700
                  Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:24 -0500
                    Re: Marx lied. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-19 11:55 -0500
                      Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 17:06 -0400
                        Re: Marx lied. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-20 07:50 -0500
                          Re: Marx lied. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-21 03:11 +0000
                            Somali pirates tax ships, as (para)governments do. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-21 11:36 -0700
                              Re: Somali pirates tax ships, as (para)governments do. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 17:33 -0400
                                It's my fault. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-21 15:20 -0700
                                  Re: It's my fault. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-21 23:29 +0100
                                    Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-21 16:05 -0700
                                      Re: Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 00:25 +0100
                                        The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-21 22:34 -0700
                                          Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-22 13:50 +0000
                                          Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 20:24 +0100
                                            Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 12:39 -0700
                                              Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 20:55 +0100
                                                Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:01 -0700
                                                  Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 21:15 +0100
                                                    Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:18 -0700
                                                      Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 21:31 +0100
                                                        Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-22 22:13 +0000
                                                          Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 15:25 -0700
                                                            Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-22 22:30 +0000
                                                              Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 23:38 +0100
                                                            Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-22 21:01 -0400
                                                          Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 23:33 +0100
                                                          Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-22 20:59 -0400
                                    Re: It's my fault. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 21:24 -0400
                                  Re: It's my fault. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 21:23 -0400
                    Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 16:54 -0400
                      Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 16:04 -0500
                        Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 18:31 -0400
                          Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 19:13 -0500
                  Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 16:52 -0400
                Marxism didn't work for Marx himself, nor anyone else. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-19 17:36 -0700
                  Re: Marxism didn't work for Marx himself, nor anyone else. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 20:07 -0500
              Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 16:46 -0400
                Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 16:03 -0500
                  SuperDeterminism is a better religion. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-19 18:14 -0700
                    Re: SuperDeterminism is a better religion. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-20 03:21 +0000
                      Does "Bell's Inequality" require perfect knowledge ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-19 23:35 -0700
                        Re: Does "Bell's Inequality" require perfect knowledge ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 12:17 -0400
                          Re: Does "Bell's Inequality" require perfect knowledge ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 21:13 -0700
                    Re: SuperDeterminism is a better religion. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 12:14 -0400
                Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 14:15 -0700
                  Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 18:17 -0400
                    Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 15:29 -0700
            Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:00 -0500
              Not one of Karl Marx's 8 kids did well. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-19 17:28 -0700
                Re: Not one of Karl Marx's 8 kids did well. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 19:34 -0500
                  When sane, you prefer the LeastBad "option", not perfection. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-20 01:40 -0700
                    Re: When sane, you prefer the LeastBad "option", not perfection. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 01:48 -0700
          Re: Karl Marx lived it. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 11:58 -0400
            Re: Karl Marx lived it. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:09 -0500
    Re: Does this sound familiar ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 11:26 -0400
    Re: Does this sound familiar ? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-06-19 14:12 -0700
      "Marxism" is a euphemism for "Feudalism". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-19 18:24 -0700
        Re: "Marxism" is a euphemism for "Feudalism". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 01:32 -0700

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#691205 — Re: Karl Marx lived it.

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-19 11:58 -0400
SubjectRe: Karl Marx lived it.
Message-ID<zK9WC.447863$PE5.98450@fx37.iad>
In reply to#691197
On 6/19/2018 11:23 AM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder 
Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 08:08:43 -0700 (Seattle), LO AND BEHOLD;
> "Jeff-Relf.Me  @." determined that the following was of great
> importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.19--8.08am.Seattle.2018>:
>   
>>
>>>> Marx tried to convince his wife that the horribly abandoned child had
>>>> been fathered by his friend Engels; so we can add "liar" to his
>>>> description.
>>> did ayn rand write that?
>>
>> No, Karl Marx lived it.
> 
> so where is your "objective" analysis, then?
> 
> last i checked, marx was a sociologist who predicted the ways that economies evolve - not a politician.
> 
> but we'll all have our guesses on what kind of people are in denial of science and wish to politicise it.
> 

Science says (actual experiments) that Karl Marx had his head firmly up 
his own ass.

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#691210 — Re: Karl Marx lived it.

FromYour Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› <root@127.0.0.1>
Date2018-06-19 11:09 -0500
SubjectRe: Karl Marx lived it.
Message-ID<fIKdndy1MbIAt7TGnZ2dnUU7-e3NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#691205
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 11:58:22 -0400, LO AND BEHOLD; "benj
<benj@nobody.net>" determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<zK9WC.447863$PE5.98450@fx37.iad>:
 
>On 6/19/2018 11:23 AM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood ๐Ÿถ Whistle Holder
>Emeritus ๐Ÿถ็ฌ› wrote:
>>On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 08:08:43 -0700 (Seattle), LO AND BEHOLD;
>>"Jeff-Relf.Me  @." determined that the following was of great
>>importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
>><Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.19--8.08am.Seattle.2018>:   
>>>
>>>>>Marx tried to convince his wife that the horribly abandoned child had
>>>>>been fathered by his friend Engels; so we can add "liar" to his
>>>>>description.
>>>>did ayn rand write that?
>>>No, Karl Marx lived it.
>>so where is your "objective" analysis, then? last i checked, marx was a 
>>sociologist who predicted the ways that economies evolve - not a
>>politician. but we'll all have our guesses on what kind of people are
>>in denial of science and wish to politicise it. 
>
>Science says (actual experiments) that Karl Marx had his head firmly up 
>his own ass.

so he was wrong when he predicted that workers would eventually refuse to work making things that they themselves cannot ever afford? 

was he wrong when he predicted that governments and economies would eventually be pressured by the working class?

okay.  if he was "wrong", then what are you crying about, then?

should be smooth sailin' from here on out for you marx haters...

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#691199

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-19 11:26 -0400
Message-ID<Dg9WC.312483$LR2.205822@fx41.iad>
In reply to#691188
On 6/19/2018 7:48 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>  From "Redice.TV" (modified):
> 
>    Marx and [ Jenny, his wife ] came from comfortable homes;
>    she was already well educated when they married.
> 
>    Together, they had 7 children; three survived to adulthood;
>    every biography of Marx reports that [ they died of poverty ].
> 
>    Marx occasionally wrote about the โ€™struggleโ€™ of workers,
>    but he never worked a day in his life; instead, he sat in his
>    pig-sty and found all sorts of reasons to not work.
> 
>    Mainly, he thought he was too important to work.
> 
>    A slave needs a master, and a master needs a slave, he wrote.
> 
>    As it happened, Jenny received an inheritance and, so,
>    she hired a housekeeper to oversee their better quarters.
>    His eighth child was born to the housekeeper (willingly?).
> 
>    Marx tried to convince his wife that
>    the child had been fathered by his friend Engels,
>    but she didnโ€™t believe him.
> 
>    So we can add "liar" to his description.
> 
Bad news, Rolf. Marx dreamed of a "worker's paradise". But obviously 
neither He, nor you, nor Nads is qualified to enter there.

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#691265

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-06-19 14:12 -0700
Message-ID<234973e8-66bc-4f7c-9e6e-5bc4cef2b5bb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691188
On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 4:48:49 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> From "Redice.TV" (modified):
> 
>   Marx and [ Jenny, his wife ] came from comfortable homes; 
>   she was already well educated when they married.
> 
>   Together, they had 7 children; three survived to adulthood;
>   every biography of Marx reports that [ they died of poverty ].
> 
>   Marx occasionally wrote about the โ€™struggleโ€™ of workers, 
>   but he never worked a day in his life; instead, he sat in his 
>   pig-sty and found all sorts of reasons to not work.
> 
>   Mainly, he thought he was too important to work.
> 
>   A slave needs a master, and a master needs a slave, he wrote.
> 
>   As it happened, Jenny received an inheritance and, so,
>   she hired a housekeeper to oversee their better quarters.
>   His eighth child was born to the housekeeper (willingly?).
> 
>   Marx tried to convince his wife that
>   the child had been fathered by his friend Engels,
>   but she didnโ€™t believe him.
> 
>   So we can add "liar" to his description.


Interestingly, Vladimir Lenin followed essentially lifestyle, and yet rose to absolute power in Russia!

Double-A

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#691319 — "Marxism" is a euphemism for "Feudalism".

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-06-19 18:24 -0700
Subject"Marxism" is a euphemism for "Feudalism".
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.19--6.24pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#691265
> Vladimir Lenin followed essentially [ the same lifestyle as Marx (?!) ],
> and yet rose to absolute power in Russia!

Karl Marx wasn't the supreme ruler, like Lenin and JongUn.

"Marxism" is a euphemism for "Feudalism".

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#691352 — Re: "Marxism" is a euphemism for "Feudalism".

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-20 01:32 -0700
SubjectRe: "Marxism" is a euphemism for "Feudalism".
Message-ID<88cf0b6b-99e7-4249-8872-724a60c4c39f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#691319
On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 6:24:03 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > Vladimir Lenin followed essentially [ the same lifestyle as Marx (?!) ],
> > and yet rose to absolute power in Russia!
> 
> Karl Marx wasn't the supreme ruler, like Lenin and JongUn.
> 
> "Marxism" is a euphemism for "Feudalism".



Nobody gets it, I am the one who figured it out. 

Can you stop asking for my attention? 

Sandman teased Peter Kohlmann as much as he deserves, big fucking deal. No need to be a sniveling fuckhead about it? 

Thus, my unedited statement stands sincere and correct. And in reply you have nothing but an attempt to start a troll-fest. It was Peter Kohlmann who flooded Sandman's site thousands of times and pretended he did not do it. Once Sandman understood how successful Peter Kohlmann is at playing 'fall guy' he sees this is not as outta whack as it seemed. 

From the way Peter Kohlmann complained - by getting wrong details of the system and the like - he's certainly not understood a data-intensive program before. If he had he would've understood the requirements of declaring variables! 



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