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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-02 18:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 10:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 19:04 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:47 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:50 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:45 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 07:15 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-05 20:45 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:50 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 12:46 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-06 07:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 14:01 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 23:19 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 05:52 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:28 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 05:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:29 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:14 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:05 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 14:56 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:36 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 12:10 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:00 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-10 18:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-12 04:19 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-12 20:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-12 19:46 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 04:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-13 13:37 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:21 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-12 20:50 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 03:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 05:29 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-13 12:25 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 07:11 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:54 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 21:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 13:47 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:20 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 14:09 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-13 21:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 05:14 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 09:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-14 07:49 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 22:40 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-13 10:42 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-10 12:16 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:01 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 10:56 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:13 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 20:45 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:24 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 22:50 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 14:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:23 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Sesiom <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-06-08 20:01 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 21:47 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-08 18:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-08 21:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-08 22:18 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-09 06:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-09 10:32 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 00:42 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 18:56 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:52 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:18 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-11 11:12 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 20:54 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:29 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 22:59 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-12 04:17 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-13 12:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-13 10:40 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-13 23:03 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 20:51 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:54 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-11 20:59 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 23:29 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 19:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-08 00:16 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:27 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-09 02:50 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-09 14:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 12:24 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-10 11:15 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-10 19:31 +0200
"duke" is imprisoned in a bible, unable to escape. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-10 10:39 -0700
Re: "duke" is imprisoned in a bible, unable to escape. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 17:02 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-10 23:24 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-11 11:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:50 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-06 06:20 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> - 2015-06-06 12:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 05:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:31 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 01:20 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 05:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 07:22 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 07:40 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 20:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-08 07:28 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-08 22:29 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 05:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:32 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 08:54 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:26 -0400
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-13 12:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <a2qona5kjghnh94l473eaksdgsm958hgsb@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #499512 |
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 20:54:38 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote: >On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:55:11 -0500, duke wrote: > >> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:12:17 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:18:10 +0000 (UTC), Smiler wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:04:34 -0500, duke wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:23:38 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:29:13 -0500, duke wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 05:53:48 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On 6/6/2015 12:49 PM, duke wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes. The non believer is better because he does these acts out >>>>>>>>>> of altruism, not like the believer who does it out of fear. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do it because God specifically called for us to follow his Son. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>No he didn't. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, now you know why satan is so joyous about your pending >>>>>>> arrival. >>>>>> >>>>>>So you talk to Satan, do you, puke? >>>>> >>>>> Actually, I don't have to. Its been made well clear that the willful >>>>> sinner who knows better has only the fires of hell left for him. >>>> >>>> No atheist sins. It's impossible. >>> >>>Atheists can't perform trigonometric functions? >>> >>>Joking aside.... >> >>>Sin is not an exclusively religious concept. These days, it is >>>generally understood and employed in a secular context referring to any >>>transgression against a moral code, any reprehensible act. >> >> And specifically in this case a sin against God. Bad, bad. > >As atheists have no god, they cannot sin. God's still there judging them. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2015-06-13 22:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlicjm$m5v$4@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #499792 |
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 12:29:19 -0500, duke wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 20:54:38 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote: > >>On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:55:11 -0500, duke wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:12:17 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:18:10 +0000 (UTC), Smiler wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:04:34 -0500, duke wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:23:38 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:29:13 -0500, duke wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 05:53:48 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On 6/6/2015 12:49 PM, duke wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes. The non believer is better because he does these acts out >>>>>>>>>>> of altruism, not like the believer who does it out of fear. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I do it because God specifically called for us to follow his >>>>>>>>>> Son. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>No he didn't. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, now you know why satan is so joyous about your pending >>>>>>>> arrival. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>So you talk to Satan, do you, puke? >>>>>> >>>>>> Actually, I don't have to. Its been made well clear that the >>>>>> willful sinner who knows better has only the fires of hell left for >>>>>> him. >>>>> >>>>> No atheist sins. It's impossible. >>>> >>>>Atheists can't perform trigonometric functions? >>>> >>>>Joking aside.... >>> >>>>Sin is not an exclusively religious concept. These days, it is >>>>generally understood and employed in a secular context referring to >>>>any transgression against a moral code, any reprehensible act. >>> >>> And specifically in this case a sin against God. Bad, bad. >> >>As atheists have no god, they cannot sin. > > God's still there judging them. That would be the god you created in your own image for which you have no evidence. > ***** > "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer." > Pope Paul VI ***** -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | talishi <talishi@example.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-12 04:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mlef6a1bbm@news6.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #499426 |
On 06/11/2015 09:55 AM, duke wrote: > And specifically in this case a sin against God. Bad, bad. Sin is a violation of a religious code. I have no religion. That makes me sinless.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-13 12:30 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <t3qonahpshmtdja2f9vaj4grb2htj0sjuk@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #499590 |
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 04:17:41 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: >On 06/11/2015 09:55 AM, duke wrote: >> And specifically in this case a sin against God. Bad, bad. > >Sin is a violation of a religious code. I have no religion. That makes >me sinless. Wrong. Sin is telling God no. And so you will die faulted. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | talishi <talishi@example.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-13 10:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mlhptt11ltt@news3.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #499793 |
On 06/13/2015 10:30 AM, duke wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 04:17:41 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net> wrote: > >> >On 06/11/2015 09:55 AM, duke wrote: >>> >>And specifically in this case a sin against God. Bad, bad. >> > >> >Sin is a violation of a religious code. I have no religion. That makes >> >me sinless. > Wrong. Sin is telling God no. And so you will die faulted. I didn't hear God ask me something.
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2015-06-13 23:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlics6$omt$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #499800 |
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:40:13 -0700, talishi wrote: > On 06/13/2015 10:30 AM, duke wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 04:17:41 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net> >> wrote: >> >>> >On 06/11/2015 09:55 AM, duke wrote: >>>> >>And specifically in this case a sin against God. Bad, bad. >>> > >>> >Sin is a violation of a religious code. I have no religion. That >>> >makes me sinless. >> Wrong. Sin is telling God no. And so you will die faulted. > > I didn't hear God ask me something. That's because, unlike puke, your (and my) heart has no ears. We need to visit an audiocardiologist, but I can't find one anywhere. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2015-06-11 20:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlcsdc$ha9$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #499367 |
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:12:17 +0100, Alex W. wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:18:10 +0000 (UTC), Smiler wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:04:34 -0500, duke wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:23:38 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:29:13 -0500, duke wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 05:53:48 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On 6/6/2015 12:49 PM, duke wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes. The non believer is better because he does these acts out of >>>>>>>> altruism, not like the believer who does it out of fear. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do it because God specifically called for us to follow his Son. >>>>> >>>>>>No he didn't. >>>>> >>>>> Well, now you know why satan is so joyous about your pending >>>>> arrival. >>>> >>>>So you talk to Satan, do you, puke? >>> >>> Actually, I don't have to. Its been made well clear that the willful >>> sinner who knows better has only the fires of hell left for him. >> >> No atheist sins. It's impossible. > > Atheists can't perform trigonometric functions? > > Joking aside.... > > Sin is not an exclusively religious concept. These days, it is > generally understood and employed in a secular context referring to any > transgression against a moral code, any reprehensible act. Sin is generally believed to be an act against one's god swill. Ask Puke! As atheists have no god, they cannot sin. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-11 11:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <t5fjna979mee9oan9t8fc8b7q193adifvf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #499298 |
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:18:10 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote: >On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:04:34 -0500, duke wrote: > >> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:23:38 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:29:13 -0500, duke wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 05:53:48 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On 6/6/2015 12:49 PM, duke wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. The non believer is better because he does these acts out of >>>>>>> altruism, not like the believer who does it out of fear. >>>>>> >>>>>> I do it because God specifically called for us to follow his Son. >>>> >>>>>No he didn't. >>>> >>>> Well, now you know why satan is so joyous about your pending arrival. >>> >>>So you talk to Satan, do you, puke? >> >> Actually, I don't have to. Its been made well clear that the willful >> sinner who knows better has only the fires of hell left for him. > >No atheist sins. It's impossible. God's standard says atheist sins are the worst. >> If God doesn't want you in his house for acting like satan, why wouldn't >> satan be happy for your arrival? >>>How else would you know that 'Satan is joyous'? >No answer, puke? If God says "no" to your visit, the only other option (joyous) is by satan. >>>Thanks for confirming that you're a wannabe-Christian Satanist. >> Because God is so sorry that your preferred satan. >Word salad and non-answer. Puke runs away again. Haahaahaa. How can a non-answer be a word salad. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2015-06-11 20:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlcsr9$i9e$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #499424 |
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:54:09 -0500, duke wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:18:10 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote: > >>On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:04:34 -0500, duke wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:23:38 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:29:13 -0500, duke wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 05:53:48 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On 6/6/2015 12:49 PM, duke wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes. The non believer is better because he does these acts out of >>>>>>>> altruism, not like the believer who does it out of fear. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do it because God specifically called for us to follow his Son. >>>>> >>>>>>No he didn't. >>>>> >>>>> Well, now you know why satan is so joyous about your pending >>>>> arrival. >>>> >>>>So you talk to Satan, do you, puke? >>> >>> Actually, I don't have to. Its been made well clear that the willful >>> sinner who knows better has only the fires of hell left for him. >> >>No atheist sins. It's impossible. > > God's standard says atheist sins are the worst. Sin: Something that goes against one's god swill. Atheists have no god, so cannot sin. >>> If God doesn't want you in his house for acting like satan, why >>> wouldn't satan be happy for your arrival? > >>>>How else would you know that 'Satan is joyous'? >>No answer, puke? > > If God says "no" to your visit, the only other option (joyous) is by > satan. So you don't KNOW that is the case, you merely believe it. >>>>Thanks for confirming that you're a wannabe-Christian Satanist. >>> Because God is so sorry that your preferred satan. >>Word salad and non-answer. Puke runs away again. > > Haahaahaa. How can a non-answer be a word salad. Logic is beyond your comprehension. > ***** > "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer." > Pope Paul VI ***** -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> |
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| Date | 2015-06-07 23:29 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <5574b7a7$1$23224$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk> |
| In reply to | #498183 |
"duke" skrev i meddelelsen news:5396nahrg2old91rsjjsuia404so0r3c2s@4ax.com... > > On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 07:01:25 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On 6/6/2015 6:46 AM, Malte Runz wrote: > >> > >> The setup: An atheist devotes his life to help the needy. A theist does > >> the same. > >> Question: Is there a difference in 'goodness' between the acts of the > >> two? > > > > > > > >Yes. The non believer is better because he does these acts out of > >altruism, not like the believer who does it out of fear. > > I do it because God specifically called for us to follow his Son. And if the Son had been taking it up the rear, would you follow him there? -- Malte Runz
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-07 19:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <56n9nalr1l994n58oai7knd4q191lm8ma2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #498488 |
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 23:29:11 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >news:5396nahrg2old91rsjjsuia404so0r3c2s@4ax.com... >> >> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 07:01:25 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >On 6/6/2015 6:46 AM, Malte Runz wrote: >> >> >> >> The setup: An atheist devotes his life to help the needy. A theist does >> >> the same. >> >> Question: Is there a difference in 'goodness' between the acts of the >> >> two? >> > >> > >> > >> >Yes. The non believer is better because he does these acts out of >> >altruism, not like the believer who does it out of fear. >> >> I do it because God specifically called for us to follow his Son. > >And if the Son had been taking it up the rear, would you follow him there? That's why he's such a pain in the ass.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-06 11:48 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qs86naltriaskjhlv7tcs26ueqkj7529u6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #498129 |
On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:46:51 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >news:fs24natp974t901caap842jqkm62juo7ch@4ax.com... >> >> On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 20:45:32 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> wrote: >> >> >"HVAC" skrev i meddelelsen news:mks09k$34p$1@dont-email.me... >> > >> >(snip) >> > >> >> ... Do good acts for there OWN sake. ... >> > >> >That's impossible, because 'good acts' are defined as acts done for the >> >sole >> >purpose of pleasuring God. >> >> No, not pleasuring, but pleasing to God's love. > >The setup: An atheist devotes his life to help the needy. A theist does the >same. >Question: Is there a difference in 'goodness' between the acts of the two? No. The key is that "supposed" atheist is closely following the love he gave us to help the needy. Jesus told us we are to follow him and his gave his life to the Father in heaven and in service and love to his fellow man. His gift - "do as I say and do." the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> |
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| Date | 2015-06-08 00:16 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <5574c2d9$1$23213$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk> |
| In reply to | #498181 |
"duke" skrev i meddelelsen news:qs86naltriaskjhlv7tcs26ueqkj7529u6@4ax.com... > > On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:46:51 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > wrote: > > >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen > >news:fs24natp974t901caap842jqkm62juo7ch@4ax.com... > >> > >> On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 20:45:32 +0200, "Malte Runz" > >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >"HVAC" skrev i meddelelsen news:mks09k$34p$1@dont-email.me... > >> > > >> >(snip) > >> > > >> >> ... Do good acts for there OWN sake. ... > >> > > >> >That's impossible, because 'good acts' are defined as acts done for > >> >the > >> >sole > >> >purpose of pleasuring God. > >> > >> No, not pleasuring, but pleasing to God's love. > > > >The setup: An atheist devotes his life to help the needy. A theist does > >the > >same. > >Question: Is there a difference in 'goodness' between the acts of the > >two? (Here it is!) > No. ... Good. > ... The key is that "supposed" atheist is closely following the love he > gave us > to help the needy. Jesus told us we are to follow him and his gave his > life to > the Father in heaven and in service and love to his fellow man. The atheist does good not knowing it is what God wants him to do. The atheist is a 'natural', wouldn't you say! The theist on the other hand does it because he is told "to follow". I know which group I'd invite to the forever-after-party in the sky. -- Malte Runz
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-08 07:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <p82bna9fm3c3r50vcc4in2u5nnvlghhfcs@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #498497 |
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 00:16:58 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >news:qs86naltriaskjhlv7tcs26ueqkj7529u6@4ax.com... >> >> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:46:51 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> wrote: >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >news:fs24natp974t901caap842jqkm62juo7ch@4ax.com... >> >> >> >> On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 20:45:32 +0200, "Malte Runz" >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >"HVAC" skrev i meddelelsen news:mks09k$34p$1@dont-email.me... >> >> > >> >> >(snip) >> >> > >> >> >> ... Do good acts for there OWN sake. ... >> >> > >> >> >That's impossible, because 'good acts' are defined as acts done for >> >> >the >> >> >sole >> >> >purpose of pleasuring God. >> >> >> >> No, not pleasuring, but pleasing to God's love. >> > >> >The setup: An atheist devotes his life to help the needy. A theist does >> >the >> >same. >> >Question: Is there a difference in 'goodness' between the acts of the >> >two? > >(Here it is!) > >> No. ... > >Good. Why would you even possibly consider otherwise. It's just more example of your clueless position of God in our lives. >> ... The key is that "supposed" atheist is closely following the love he >> gave us >> to help the needy. Jesus told us we are to follow him and his gave his >> life to >> the Father in heaven and in service and love to his fellow man. >The atheist does good not knowing it is what God wants him to do. Why is the atheist attitude guided differently than the theist? You're not very honest. You fail to understand the guiding principle in both - one a confused atheist and the other as a theist.. >The >atheist is a 'natural', wouldn't you say! The theist on the other hand does >it because he is told "to follow". I know which group I'd invite to the >forever-after-party in the sky. Again, why does the atheist respond for a different reason than the theist. The damnation of the atheist comes in form other directions. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> |
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| Date | 2015-06-09 02:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <5576385b$0$23231$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk> |
| In reply to | #498629 |
"duke" skrev i meddelelsen news:p82bna9fm3c3r50vcc4in2u5nnvlghhfcs@4ax.com... > > On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 00:16:58 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > wrote: > > >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen > >news:qs86naltriaskjhlv7tcs26ueqkj7529u6@4ax.com... > >> > >> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:46:51 +0200, "Malte Runz" > >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > >> wrote: > >> (snip) > >> >The setup: An atheist devotes his life to help the needy. A theist > >> >does > >> >the > >> >same. > >> >Question: Is there a difference in 'goodness' between the acts of the > >> >two? > > > >(Here it is!) > > > >> No. ... > > > >Good. > > Why would you even possibly consider otherwise. ... I'm not. > ... It's just more example of your > clueless position of God in our lives. > > >> ... The key is that "supposed" atheist is closely following the love he > >> gave us > >> to help the needy. Jesus told us we are to follow him and his gave his > >> life to > >> the Father in heaven and in service and love to his fellow man. > > >The atheist does good not knowing it is what God wants him to do. > > Why is the atheist attitude guided differently than the theist? ... The atheist is basically 'guided' by empathy. So is the theist, I believe, but he also believes there is a god that wants him to do good. You're not very > honest. You fail to understand the guiding principle in both - one a > confused > atheist and the other as a theist.. Confused about what? 'Why am I doing all these good things??? I don't understand... I'm inherently evil. What's going on!' > >The > >atheist is a 'natural', wouldn't you say! The theist on the other hand > >does > >it because he is told "to follow". I know which group I'd invite to the > >forever-after-party in the sky. > > Again, why does the atheist respond for a different reason than the > theist. ... I am glad to see that you acknowledge that it is possible for atheists to perform acts that are indistinguishable, in the level of goodness, from the acts of the theist. Do you realize what the consequence of that is? (snip) -- Malte Runz
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-09 14:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <38henap30r5ghj1fh3o5lkfjltv5r4qd9q@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #498811 |
On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 02:50:35 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >news:p82bna9fm3c3r50vcc4in2u5nnvlghhfcs@4ax.com... >> >> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 00:16:58 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> wrote: >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >news:qs86naltriaskjhlv7tcs26ueqkj7529u6@4ax.com... >> >> >> >> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:46:51 +0200, "Malte Runz" >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >(snip) > >> >> >The setup: An atheist devotes his life to help the needy. A theist >> >> >does >> >> >the >> >> >same. >> >> >Question: Is there a difference in 'goodness' between the acts of the >> >> >two? >> > >> >(Here it is!) >> > >> >> No. ... >> > >> >Good. >> >> Why would you even possibly consider otherwise. ... > >I'm not. Your choice. >> ... It's just more example of your >> clueless position of God in our lives. >> >> >> ... The key is that "supposed" atheist is closely following the love he >> >> gave us >> >> to help the needy. Jesus told us we are to follow him and his gave his >> >> life to >> >> the Father in heaven and in service and love to his fellow man. >> >> >The atheist does good not knowing it is what God wants him to do. >> >> Why is the atheist attitude guided differently than the theist? ... >The atheist is basically 'guided' by empathy. So is the theist, I believe, >but he also believes there is a god that wants him to do good. Oh, nooooo. We're judged by the same presence of our actions > >You're not very >> honest. You fail to understand the guiding principle in both - one a >> confused >> atheist and the other as a theist.. >Confused about what? 'Why am I doing all these good things??? I don't >understand... I'm inherently evil. What's going on!' Beats me. Only you know why you are so evil. > > >> >The >> >atheist is a 'natural', wouldn't you say! The theist on the other hand >> >does >> >it because he is told "to follow". I know which group I'd invite to the >> >forever-after-party in the sky. >> >> Again, why does the atheist respond for a different reason than the >> theist. ... >I am glad to see that you acknowledge that it is possible for atheists to >perform acts that are indistinguishable, in the level of goodness, from the >acts of the theist. Do you realize what the consequence of that is? You must present your entire lifetime for evaluation. > >(snip) the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> |
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| Date | 2015-06-10 12:24 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <5578106d$1$23212$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk> |
| In reply to | #499004 |
"duke" skrev i meddelelsen news:38henap30r5ghj1fh3o5lkfjltv5r4qd9q@4ax.com... > > On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 02:50:35 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > wrote: > > >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen > >news:p82bna9fm3c3r50vcc4in2u5nnvlghhfcs@4ax.com... > >> > >> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 00:16:58 +0200, "Malte Runz" > >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen > >> >news:qs86naltriaskjhlv7tcs26ueqkj7529u6@4ax.com... > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:46:51 +0200, "Malte Runz" > >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > > >(snip) > > > >> >> >The setup: An atheist devotes his life to help the needy. A theist > >> >> >does > >> >> >the > >> >> >same. > >> >> >Question: Is there a difference in 'goodness' between the acts of > >> >> >the > >> >> >two? > >> > > >> >(Here it is!) (snip) > >The atheist is basically 'guided' by empathy. So is the theist, I > >believe, > >but he also believes there is a god that wants him to do good. > > Oh, nooooo. ... This is silly. You have told us many times, that you follow God because he asks you to. Like here: "Jesus told us we are to follow him... " and here: "I do it because God specifically called for us to follow his Son." IOW God wants us to be good and do good things. The theist wants to do what God wants him to. If your default position is that you have to negate everything I say you have said, you're going to end up looking pretty stupid. > ... We're judged by the same presence of our actions Interesting. I'm sure this bit will come in very handy one of these days. > > > >You're not very > >> honest. You fail to understand the guiding principle in both - one a > >> confused > >> atheist and the other as a theist.. > > >Confused about what? 'Why am I doing all these good things??? I don't > >understand... I'm inherently evil. What's going on!' > > Beats me. Only you know why you are so evil. Okay, so you don't get sarcasm. Try again: Why do you say I'm evil. (snip) > >I am glad to see that you acknowledge that it is possible for atheists to > >perform acts that are indistinguishable, in the level of goodness, from > >the > >acts of the theist. Do you realize what the consequence of that is? > > You must present your entire lifetime for evaluation. If I have done nothing but good things in my life, but have remained an unbeliever, do I still get the flames? This is the important part. Think before you press send. -- Malte Runz
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-06-10 11:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <t2ogna5sq8kfsntokpq8jr533j8nvevk46@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #499157 |
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:24:46 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote: >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >news:38henap30r5ghj1fh3o5lkfjltv5r4qd9q@4ax.com... >> >> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 02:50:35 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> wrote: >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >news:p82bna9fm3c3r50vcc4in2u5nnvlghhfcs@4ax.com... >> >> >> >> On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 00:16:58 +0200, "Malte Runz" >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen >> >> >news:qs86naltriaskjhlv7tcs26ueqkj7529u6@4ax.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:46:51 +0200, "Malte Runz" >> >> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >(snip) >> > >> >> >> >The setup: An atheist devotes his life to help the needy. A theist >> >> >> >does >> >> >> >the >> >> >> >same. >> >> >> >Question: Is there a difference in 'goodness' between the acts of >> >> >> >the >> >> >> >two? >> >> > >> >> >(Here it is!) > >(snip) > > >> >The atheist is basically 'guided' by empathy. So is the theist, I >> >believe, >> >but he also believes there is a god that wants him to do good. >> >> Oh, nooooo. ... > >This is silly. You have told us many times, that you follow God because he >asks you to. Like here: >"Jesus told us we are to follow him... " and here: "I do it because God >specifically called for us to follow his Son." IOW God wants us to be good >and do good things. The theist wants to do what God wants him to. I gather you don't know the difference between "ask" and "tell". God tells us that if we want his kindgom for all eternity, we follow his rules, not ours. Now that's your potential damnation at hand. You tell God rather an listen to God and so do what he tells you. >If your default position is that you have to negate everything I say you >have said, you're going to end up looking pretty stupid. >> ... We're judged by the same presence of our actions >Interesting. I'm sure this bit will come in very handy one of these days. God judges us by our actions in the flesh. Fly your own way if you don't believe me. >> >You're not very >> >> honest. You fail to understand the guiding principle in both - one a >> >> confused >> >> atheist and the other as a theist.. >> >> >Confused about what? 'Why am I doing all these good things??? I don't >> >understand... I'm inherently evil. What's going on!' >> Beats me. Only you know why you are so evil. >Okay, so you don't get sarcasm. Try again: Why do you say I'm evil. Because that's the image you present. >> >I am glad to see that you acknowledge that it is possible for atheists to >> >perform acts that are indistinguishable, in the level of goodness, from >> >the acts of the theist. Do you realize what the consequence of that is? >> You must present your entire lifetime for evaluation. >If I have done nothing but good things in my life, but have remained an >unbeliever, do I still get the flames? This is the important part. Think >before you press send. Romans 1:16-17New International Version (NIV) 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. 17 For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last,[a] just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”[b] Footnotes: a.Romans 1:17 Or is from faith to faith b.Romans 1:17 Hab. 2:4 <send> the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> |
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| Date | 2015-06-10 19:31 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <55787455$0$23228$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk> |
| In reply to | #499189 |
"duke" skrev i meddelelsen news:t2ogna5sq8kfsntokpq8jr533j8nvevk46@4ax.com... > > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:24:46 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > wrote: > > >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen > >news:38henap30r5ghj1fh3o5lkfjltv5r4qd9q@4ax.com... > >> > >> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 02:50:35 +0200, "Malte Runz" > >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >"duke" skrev i meddelelsen > >> >news:p82bna9fm3c3r50vcc4in2u5nnvlghhfcs@4ax.com... (snip) > >This is silly. You have told us many times, that you follow God because > >he > >asks you to. Like here: > >"Jesus told us we are to follow him... " and here: "I do it because God > >specifically called for us to follow his Son." IOW God wants us to be > >good > >and do good things. The theist wants to do what God wants him to. > > I gather you don't know the difference between "ask" and "tell". God > tells us > that if we want his kindgom for all eternity, we follow his rules, not > ours. And if we don't follow his rule, we go to Hell. Like all God's little fascists you call that a 'free choice'. (snip) > >If I have done nothing but good things in my life, but have remained an > >unbeliever, do I still get the flames? This is the important part. Think > >before you press send. > > Romans 1:16-17New International Version (NIV) > 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that > brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the > Gentile. 17 For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a > righteousness that is by faith from first to last,[a] just as it is > written: > “The righteous will live by faith.”[b] > Footnotes: > a.Romans 1:17 Or is from faith to faith > b.Romans 1:17 Hab. 2:4 > > <send> Why are you bringing quotes from the Bible that you know I'll interpret the wrong way (regardless of what my interpretation might be)? I want you to answer in your own words. Or 'word'. Yes or no? -- Malte Runz
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> |
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| Date | 2015-06-10 10:39 -0700 |
| Subject | "duke" is imprisoned in a bible, unable to escape. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.10{10.39A.Seattle.2015}> |
| In reply to | #499237 |
"duke" is imprisoned in a bible, unable to escape.
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