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  Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-07-05 18:29 -0700
    Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-06 15:02 -0700
      Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-07-06 15:13 -0700
        Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-07 14:44 -0700
          I'm dead to her. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-07-07 16:35 -0700
          Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-08 13:52 -0700
    Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-07-06 15:20 -0700
      Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:01 -0700
        Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-06 16:15 -0700
          Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-06 16:55 -0700
        Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-09 07:23 -0500
          Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-07-09 08:47 -0500
            Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 06:55 -0700
              Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-07-09 09:18 -0500
                Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? sn❄wflake@gmail.c❄m - 2018-07-09 14:29 +0000
                  Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 07:36 -0700
                Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-09 10:25 -0500
                  Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-07-09 11:22 -0500
                    Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-09 11:59 -0500
                      Re: Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ? Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-07-09 14:12 -0500
          How, pray tell, could you beat this price ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-07-09 12:07 -0700
            Re: How, pray tell, could you beat this price ? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-09 13:44 -0700
              To get rich, spend less, like Bert and I do. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-07-09 13:58 -0700
                Re: To get rich, spend less, like Bert and I do. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 14:15 -0700
                  Re: To get rich, spend less, like Bert and I do. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 14:18 -0700
                  Re: To get rich, spend less, like Bert and I do. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-09 15:32 -0700
                    MADD, Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-07-09 15:54 -0700
                    Re: To get rich, spend less, like Bert and I do. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-09 16:02 -0700
                      Re: To get rich, spend less, like Bert and I do. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-09 18:56 -0700
                Re: To get rich, spend less, like Bert and I do. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-09 15:32 -0700
                  You spend 3 times what I do. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-07-09 15:50 -0700
          No chance to win, No chance to lose. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-07-15 12:16 -0700
            Re: No chance to win, No chance to lose. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-15 15:14 -0700
              Re: It's good to be King.  The house doesn't gamble. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 14:44 -0700
            Re: No chance to win, No chance to lose. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 14:41 -0700
              Re: No chance to win, No chance to lose. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-16 15:07 -0700

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#692706 — Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ?

> which is first:  your 50th birthday, or its "fully paid off" date?

Add up the cost of "owning" ( after taxes, regulations and utilities )
a house and give us a monthly cost analysis.

Is it cheaper than renting ?

    I pay nothing for my Internet; it's free with rent,
    because my share is 2.50$ per month ( 80$/32 ).

Is it closer to your job/hobbies ?

    I don't commute.  I walk.  No bus, train or taxi.

Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ?

    I have only cash and job incomes, no liabilities.

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#692804

On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 6:29:24 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > which is first:  your 50th birthday, or its "fully paid off" date?
> 
> Add up the cost of "owning" ( after taxes, regulations and utilities )
> a house and give us a monthly cost analysis.
> 
> Is it cheaper than renting ?
> 
>     I pay nothing for my Internet; it's free with rent,
>     because my share is 2.50$ per month ( 80$/32 ).
> 
> Is it closer to your job/hobbies ?
> 
>     I don't commute.  I walk.  No bus, train or taxi.
> 
> Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ?
> 
>     I have only cash and job incomes, no liabilities.


Are all your assets off the books?

Double-A

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#692805

> > I have only cash and job incomes, no liabilities.
> 
> Are all your assets off the books?

No, most of it is in banks; I pay income taxes.
I've no LongTerm investments.

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#693011

On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 3:13:12 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > I have only cash and job incomes, no liabilities.
> > 
> > Are all your assets off the books?
> 
> No, most of it is in banks; I pay income taxes.
> I've no LongTerm investments.


I wasn't insinuating that you didn't pay taxes, but I thought you might be worried about your ex-wife dipping into your accounts!

Double-A

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#693027 — I'm dead to her.

> I thought you might be worried about your ex-wife dipping into your accounts!

She's quite rich, compared to most; I'm amazingly poor.
I'm dead to her.

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#693159

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 2:44:39 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 3:13:12 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > > I have only cash and job incomes, no liabilities.
> > > 
> > > Are all your assets off the books?
> > 
> > No, most of it is in banks; I pay income taxes.
> > I've no LongTerm investments.
> 
> 
> I wasn't insinuating that you didn't pay taxes, but I thought you might be worried about your ex-wife dipping into your accounts!
> 
> Double-A

Market can go down and not hurt the old.If Trump brings SS down that will be a killer. Bert

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#692807

On 7/5/2018 6:29 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>> which is first:  your 50th birthday, or its "fully paid off" date?
> 
> Add up the cost of "owning" ( after taxes, regulations and utilities )
> a house and give us a monthly cost analysis.
> 
> Is it cheaper than renting ?
> 
>      I pay nothing for my Internet; it's free with rent,
>      because my share is 2.50$ per month ( 80$/32 ).
> 
> Is it closer to your job/hobbies ?
> 
>      I don't commute.  I walk.  No bus, train or taxi.
> 
> Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ?
> 
>      I have only cash and job incomes, no liabilities.
> 

Renting drains resources without owing jack shi%...

Pseudo-owning wrt getting a big, drawn out loan for a property, still 
means that you still do not own the whole thing. It can be taken away if 
you miss some payments on said loan. Heck, are you even paying toward 
the principle, or just paying the bare minimum soaked with interest 
rates...?

Owning, wrt completely paying for the property is nice, and should be 
the "ultimate" goal!

Utility bills and property taxes aside for a moment... ;^o

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#692812

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <phopvj$5lh$1@dont-email.me>, 
invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...


> 
> On 7/5/2018 6:29 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> >> which is first:  your 50th birthday, or its "fully paid off" date?
> > 
> > Add up the cost of "owning" ( after taxes, regulations and utilities )
> > a house and give us a monthly cost analysis.
> > 
> > Is it cheaper than renting ?
> > 
> >      I pay nothing for my Internet; it's free with rent,
> >      because my share is 2.50$ per month ( 80$/32 ).
> > 
> > Is it closer to your job/hobbies ?
> > 
> >      I don't commute.  I walk.  No bus, train or taxi.
> > 
> > Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ?
> > 
> >      I have only cash and job incomes, no liabilities.
> > 
> 
> Renting drains resources without owing jack shi%...
> 
> Pseudo-owning wrt getting a big, drawn out loan for a property, still 
> means that you still do not own the whole thing. It can be taken away if 
> you miss some payments on said loan. Heck, are you even paying toward 
> the principle, or just paying the bare minimum soaked with interest 
> rates...?
> 
> Owning, wrt completely paying for the property is nice, and should be 
> the "ultimate" goal!
> 
> Utility bills and property taxes aside for a moment... ;^o

I don't mind the utility bills so much, it's those fucking property taxes 
that make us renters, even when we're mortgage-free.  

-- 
Checkmate ® 
Author, Humorist, Cynic
Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
Usenet Shot-Caller           
Copyright © 2018 
all rights reserved

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

"There are many here among us, 
who feel that life is but a joke."

"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
kensi."    -Nadegda  
Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me>

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#692819

On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 4:01:16 PM UTC-7, Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
> Checkmate!  In article <phopvj$5lh$1@dont-email.me>, 
> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
> 
> 
> > 
> > On 7/5/2018 6:29 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> > >> which is first:  your 50th birthday, or its "fully paid off" date?
> > > 
> > > Add up the cost of "owning" ( after taxes, regulations and utilities )
> > > a house and give us a monthly cost analysis.
> > > 
> > > Is it cheaper than renting ?
> > > 
> > >      I pay nothing for my Internet; it's free with rent,
> > >      because my share is 2.50$ per month ( 80$/32 ).
> > > 
> > > Is it closer to your job/hobbies ?
> > > 
> > >      I don't commute.  I walk.  No bus, train or taxi.
> > > 
> > > Would your 30 year mortage be underwater, if the market dropped ?
> > > 
> > >      I have only cash and job incomes, no liabilities.
> > > 
> > 
> > Renting drains resources without owing jack shi%...
> > 
> > Pseudo-owning wrt getting a big, drawn out loan for a property, still 
> > means that you still do not own the whole thing. It can be taken away if 
> > you miss some payments on said loan. Heck, are you even paying toward 
> > the principle, or just paying the bare minimum soaked with interest 
> > rates...?
> > 
> > Owning, wrt completely paying for the property is nice, and should be 
> > the "ultimate" goal!
> > 
> > Utility bills and property taxes aside for a moment... ;^o
> 
> I don't mind the utility bills so much, it's those fucking property taxes 
> that make us renters, even when we're mortgage-free.  
> 
> -- 
> Checkmate ® 
> Author, Humorist, Cynic
> Philosopher, Humanitarian
> Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
> Usenet Shot-Caller           
> Copyright © 2018 
> all rights reserved
> 
> In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
> May 2010-February 12, 2017
> 
> "There are many here among us, 
> who feel that life is but a joke."
> 
> "I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
> kensi."    -Nadegda  
> Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me>

A high rise custom van pays for itself in say 4 years.It puts money in your pocket and gives you a life when your old.Bert

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#692827

"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
"It puts money in your pocket and gives you a life when 
your old" like Bert who will get Nobel-claiming info ASA
 Bert answers the post regarding Bert's Light 3" stoppage.

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#693286

Checkmate wrote:

>invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>> 
>> 
>> Pseudo-owning wrt getting a big, drawn out loan for a property, still 
>> means that you still do not own the whole thing. It can be taken away if 
>> you miss some payments on said loan. Heck, are you even paying toward 
>> the principle, or just paying the bare minimum soaked with interest 
>> rates...?
>> 
>> Owning, wrt completely paying for the property is nice, and should be 
>> the "ultimate" goal!
>> 
>> Utility bills and property taxes aside for a moment... ;^o
>
>I don't mind the utility bills so much, it's those fucking property taxes 
>that make us renters, even when we're mortgage-free.  

+1.  Property tax is my biggest monthy expense.

-- 
"'Easy to read' is good for TV, not computer science."  -  Jeff Relf

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#693294

On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 07:23:56 -0500, LO AND BEHOLD; "chrisv
<chrisv@nospam.invalid>" determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<pqk6kd5538fmdotdqq4dt158ij1l10msh2@4ax.com>:
 
>💩 wrote:
>
>>invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>Pseudo-owning wrt getting a big, drawn out loan for a property, still
>>>means that you still do not own the whole thing. It can be taken away
>>>if you miss some payments on said loan. Heck, are you even paying
>>>toward the principle, or just paying the bare minimum soaked with
>>>interest rates...? Owning, wrt completely paying for the property is
>>>nice, and should be the "ultimate" goal! Utility bills and property
>>>taxes aside for a moment... ;^o
>>I don't mind the utility bills so much, it's those fucking property
>>taxes that make us renters, even when we're mortgage-free.  
>
>+1.  Property tax is my biggest monthy expense. 

you are free to move anywhere where there are no taxes.

why do you choose not to?

-- 
THIS SPACE FOR RENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB6B8jGSdLA

"Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this 
seems to be the new norm in the world.  It's spreading like a cancer, 
and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil.  We need to put an 
end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure hell 
everywhere.  We need to get these people out of every civilized 
country, and there's only one way to do it.  IOW, we have to become 
like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Checkmate (of alt.checkmate) 

"Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously
unenforced immigration policies is working.  We'll deal with the domestic
terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie
terrorists get a foothold in our country too.  One need only look at what
they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by
keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan)

-

"You just made puppy whistle's sig line longer." - Janithor

-

"If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement which uses a lot of social media. This is backwards: it is an online movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets punched." - Jason Rhode 

-

"I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com>

-

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KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016 

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#693295

On 2018-07-09 6:47 AM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder 
Emeritus 🐶笛 wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 07:23:56 -0500, LO AND BEHOLD; "chrisv
> <chrisv@nospam.invalid>" determined that the following was of great
> importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
> <pqk6kd5538fmdotdqq4dt158ij1l10msh2@4ax.com>:
>   
>> 💩 wrote:
>>
>>> invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>> Pseudo-owning wrt getting a big, drawn out loan for a property, still
>>>> means that you still do not own the whole thing. It can be taken away
>>>> if you miss some payments on said loan. Heck, are you even paying
>>>> toward the principle, or just paying the bare minimum soaked with
>>>> interest rates...? Owning, wrt completely paying for the property is
>>>> nice, and should be the "ultimate" goal! Utility bills and property
>>>> taxes aside for a moment... ;^o
>>> I don't mind the utility bills so much, it's those fucking property
>>> taxes that make us renters, even when we're mortgage-free.
>>
>> +1.  Property tax is my biggest monthy expense.
> 
> you are free to move anywhere where there are no taxes.
> 
> why do you choose not to?
> 
hi

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#693296

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 06:55:44 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; "%
<persent@gmail.com>" determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<bdsf1r.6jc.19.1@news.alt.net>:
 
>On 2018-07-09 6:47 AM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood 🐶 Whistle Holder
>Emeritus 🐶笛 wrote:
>>On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 07:23:56 -0500, LO AND BEHOLD; "chrisv
>><chrisv@nospam.invalid>" determined that the following was of great
>>importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
>><pqk6kd5538fmdotdqq4dt158ij1l10msh2@4ax.com>:   
>>>💩 wrote: 
>>>>invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>Pseudo-owning wrt getting a big, drawn out loan for a property, still
>>>>>means that you still do not own the whole thing. It can be taken away
>>>>>if you miss some payments on said loan. Heck, are you even paying
>>>>>toward the principle, or just paying the bare minimum soaked with
>>>>>interest rates...? Owning, wrt completely paying for the property is
>>>>>nice, and should be the "ultimate" goal! Utility bills and property
>>>>>taxes aside for a moment... ;^o
>>>>I don't mind the utility bills so much, it's those fucking property
>>>>taxes that make us renters, even when we're mortgage-free.
>>>+1.  Property tax is my biggest monthy expense.
>>you are free to move anywhere where there are no taxes. why do you
>>choose not to? 
>hi

freedom isn't free.

-- 
THIS SPACE FOR RENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB6B8jGSdLA

"Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this 
seems to be the new norm in the world.  It's spreading like a cancer, 
and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil.  We need to put an 
end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure hell 
everywhere.  We need to get these people out of every civilized 
country, and there's only one way to do it.  IOW, we have to become 
like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Checkmate (of alt.checkmate) 

"Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously
unenforced immigration policies is working.  We'll deal with the domestic
terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie
terrorists get a foothold in our country too.  One need only look at what
they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by
keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan)

-

"You just made puppy whistle's sig line longer." - Janithor

-

"If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement which uses a lot of social media. This is backwards: it is an online movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets punched." - Jason Rhode 

-

"I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com>

-

Golden Killfile, June 2005
KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016 

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#693297

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>>>=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n M=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n, =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=9 Jul 2=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=18 =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=7:23:56 -=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=5=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=, L=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= AND BEH=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=LD; "chrisv
>>><chrisv@n=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=spam.invalid>" determined that the f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ll=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=wing was =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=f great
>>>imp=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=rtance and subsequently decided t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= freely share it with us in
>>><pqk6kd5538fmd=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=tdqq4dt158ij1l1=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=msh2@4ax.c=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=m>:   
>>>>💩 wr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=te: 
>>>>>invalid_chris_th=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=mass=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>Pseud=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=-=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=wning wrt getting a big, drawn =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ut l=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=an f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=r a pr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=perty, still
>>>>>>means that y=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=u still d=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= n=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=t =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=wn the wh=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=le thing. It can be taken away
>>>>>>if y=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=u miss s=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=me payments =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n said l=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=an. Heck, are y=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=u even paying
>>>>>>t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ward the principle, =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=r just paying the bare minimum s=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=aked with
>>>>>>interest rates...? =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=wning, wrt c=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=mpletely paying f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=r the pr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=perty is
>>>>>>nice, and sh=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=uld be the "ultimate" g=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=al! Utility bills and pr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=perty
>>>>>>taxes aside f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=r a m=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ment... ;^=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=
>>>>>I d=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n't mind the utility bills s=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= much, it's th=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=se fucking pr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=perty
>>>>>taxes that make us renters, even when we're m=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=rtgage-free.
>>>>+1.  Pr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=perty tax is my biggest m=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=nthy expense.
>>>y=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=u are free t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= m=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ve anywhere where there are n=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= taxes. why d=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= y=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=u
>>>ch=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=se n=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=t t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=? 
>>hi
>
>freed=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=m isn't free.

<SMACKD=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=WN!> =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n sniveling, whining, lazy, g=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=d-f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=r-n=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=thing c=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=nservatives wh=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= desire freed=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=m and always claim that "freed=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=m isn't free" but w=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=uld rather that everyb=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=dy but themselves f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=t that bill.

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#693298

On 2018-07-09 7:29 AM, "sn ❄ wflake"@gmail.c ❄ m wrote:
>>
>> =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n M=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n, 9 Jul 2=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=18 =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=6:55:44 -=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=7=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=, L=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= AND BEH=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=LD; "%
>> <persent@gmail.c=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=m>" determined that the f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ll=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=wing was =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=f great
>> imp=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=rtance and subsequently decided t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= freely share it with us in
>> <bdsf1r.6jc.19.1@news.alt.net>:
>>
>>> =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n 2=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=18-=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=7-=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=9 6:47 AM, Y=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ur Friendly Neighb=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=urh=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=d 🐶 Whistle H=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=lder
>>> Emeritus 🐶笛 wr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=te:
>>>> =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n M=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n, =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=9 Jul 2=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=18 =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=7:23:56 -=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=5=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=, L=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= AND BEH=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=LD; "chrisv
>>>> <chrisv@n=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=spam.invalid>" determined that the f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ll=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=wing was =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=f great
>>>> imp=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=rtance and subsequently decided t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= freely share it with us in
>>>> <pqk6kd5538fmd=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=tdqq4dt158ij1l1=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=msh2@4ax.c=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=m>:
>>>>> 💩 wr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=te:
>>>>>> invalid_chris_th=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=mass=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n@invalid.invalid says...
>>>>>>> Pseud=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=-=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=wning wrt getting a big, drawn =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ut l=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=an f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=r a pr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=perty, still
>>>>>>> means that y=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=u still d=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= n=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=t =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=wn the wh=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=le thing. It can be taken away
>>>>>>> if y=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=u miss s=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=me payments =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n said l=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=an. Heck, are y=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=u even paying
>>>>>>> t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ward the principle, =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=r just paying the bare minimum s=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=aked with
>>>>>>> interest rates...? =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=wning, wrt c=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=mpletely paying f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=r the pr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=perty is
>>>>>>> nice, and sh=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=uld be the "ultimate" g=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=al! Utility bills and pr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=perty
>>>>>>> taxes aside f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=r a m=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ment... ;^=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=
>>>>>> I d=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n't mind the utility bills s=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= much, it's th=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=se fucking pr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=perty
>>>>>> taxes that make us renters, even when we're m=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=rtgage-free.
>>>>> +1.  Pr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=perty tax is my biggest m=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=nthy expense.
>>>> y=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=u are free t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= m=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ve anywhere where there are n=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= taxes. why d=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= y=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=u
>>>> ch=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=se n=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=t t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=?
>>> hi
>>
>> freed=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=m isn't free.
> 
> <SMACKD=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=WN!> =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n sniveling, whining, lazy, g=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=d-f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=r-n=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=thing c=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=nservatives wh=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= desire freed=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=m and always claim that "freed=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=m isn't free" but w=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=uld rather that everyb=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=dy but themselves f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=t that bill.
> 
> 
> 
hi

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#693303

Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ?? wrote:

>>>>>I don't mind the utility bills so much, it's those fucking property
>>>>>taxes that make us renters, even when we're mortgage-free.
>>>>
>>>>+1.  Property tax is my biggest monthy expense.
>>>
>>>you are free to move anywhere where there are no taxes. why do you
>>>choose not to? 
>>
>>hi
>
>freedom isn't free.

I'm curious, which is paying for my freedom?  My federal income taxes?
My state income taxes?  My property taxes?  Sales taxes?  Social
security taxes?  Medicare taxes?

-- 
"I said that distro watch or similar should not catalog anything
unless it has been through an OSS approval committee to *HELP* ensure
that the market isn't flooded with half arsed distros made by nut jobs
trying to get their names in lights"  -  "OSS Approval Committee"
chairman "Hadron" Quack

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#693308

On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 10:25:30 -0500, LO AND BEHOLD; "chrisv
<chrisv@nospam.invalid>" determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<f5v6kdhqcbc1vvsm46r7svok0fo24r1nqm@4ax.com>:
 
>Your Friendly Neighbourhood 🐶 Whistle Holder Emeritus ?? wrote:
>
>>>>>>I don't mind the utility bills so much, it's those fucking property
>>>>>>taxes that make us renters, even when we're mortgage-free.
>>>>>+1.  Property tax is my biggest monthy expense.
>>>>you are free to move anywhere where there are no taxes. why do you
>>>>choose not to? 
>>>hi
>>freedom isn't free.
>
>I'm curious, which is paying for my freedom?  My federal income taxes?
>My state income taxes?  My property taxes?  Sales taxes?  Social
>security taxes?  Medicare taxes? 

feel free to pack your bags and fuck off to wherever you think freedom is literally "free".

-- 
THIS SPACE FOR RENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB6B8jGSdLA

"Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this 
seems to be the new norm in the world.  It's spreading like a cancer, 
and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil.  We need to put an 
end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure hell 
everywhere.  We need to get these people out of every civilized 
country, and there's only one way to do it.  IOW, we have to become 
like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Checkmate (of alt.checkmate) 

"Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously
unenforced immigration policies is working.  We'll deal with the domestic
terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie
terrorists get a foothold in our country too.  One need only look at what
they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by
keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan)

-

"You just made puppy whistle's sig line longer." - Janithor

-

"If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement which uses a lot of social media. This is backwards: it is an online movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets punched." - Jason Rhode 

-

"I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com>

-

Golden Killfile, June 2005
KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016 

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#693309

On 7/9/2018 11:22 AM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder
Emeritus 🐶笛 wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 10:25:30 -0500, LO AND BEHOLD; "chrisv
> <chrisv@nospam.invalid>" determined that the following was of great
> importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
> <f5v6kdhqcbc1vvsm46r7svok0fo24r1nqm@4ax.com>:
>  
>> Your Friendly Neighbourhood 🐶 Whistle Holder Emeritus ?? wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> I don't mind the utility bills so much, it's those fucking property
>>>>>>> taxes that make us renters, even when we're mortgage-free.
>>>>>> +1.  Property tax is my biggest monthy expense.
>>>>> you are free to move anywhere where there are no taxes. why do you
>>>>> choose not to? 
>>>> hi
>>> freedom isn't free.
>>
>> I'm curious, which is paying for my freedom?  My federal income taxes?
>> My state income taxes?  My property taxes?  Sales taxes?  Social
>> security taxes?  Medicare taxes? 
> 
> feel free to pack your bags and fuck off to wherever you think freedom is literally "free".
> 

San Francisco has free living, free dope, Pelosi-land with Obama's Choom
Gang

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/30/nancy-pelosis-unraveling-is-a-sad-sight/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/20/barack-obama-and-his-political-choom-gang/

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#693323

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 11:59:26 -0500, LO AND BEHOLD; "Sergio
<invalid@invalid.com>" determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<pi049a$17n4$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
 
>On 7/9/2018 11:22 AM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood 🐶 Whistle Holder
>Emeritus 🐶笛 wrote:
>>On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 10:25:30 -0500, LO AND BEHOLD; "chrisv
>><chrisv@nospam.invalid>" determined that the following was of great
>>importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
>><f5v6kdhqcbc1vvsm46r7svok0fo24r1nqm@4ax.com>: 
>>>Your Friendly Neighbourhood 🐶 Whistle Holder Emeritus ?? wrote: 
>>>>>>>>I don't mind the utility bills so much, it's those fucking property
>>>>>>>>taxes that make us renters, even when we're mortgage-free.
>>>>>>>+1.  Property tax is my biggest monthy expense.
>>>>>>you are free to move anywhere where there are no taxes. why do you
>>>>>>choose not to? 
>>>>>hi
>>>>freedom isn't free.
>>>I'm curious, which is paying for my freedom?  My federal income taxes?
>>>My state income taxes?  My property taxes?  Sales taxes?  Social
>>>security taxes?  Medicare taxes? 
>>feel free to pack your bags and fuck off to wherever you think freedom
>>is literally "free". 
>
>San Francisco has free living, free dope, Pelosi-land with Obama's Choom
>Gang
>
>https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/30/nancy-pelosis-unravelin
>g-is-a-sad-sight/
>
>https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/20/barack-obama-and-his-po
>litical-choom-gang/

the last time this sort of thing happened, a bunch of quasi-religious nutters left a country over taxation and started their own where they quickly realized that they were going to have to tax things for the good of all.  you should give that a try.

-- 
THIS SPACE FOR RENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB6B8jGSdLA

"Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this 
seems to be the new norm in the world.  It's spreading like a cancer, 
and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil.  We need to put an 
end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure hell 
everywhere.  We need to get these people out of every civilized 
country, and there's only one way to do it.  IOW, we have to become 
like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Checkmate (of alt.checkmate) 

"Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously
unenforced immigration policies is working.  We'll deal with the domestic
terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie
terrorists get a foothold in our country too.  One need only look at what
they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by
keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan)

-

"You just made puppy whistle's sig line longer." - Janithor

-

"If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement which uses a lot of social media. This is backwards: it is an online movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets punched." - Jason Rhode 

-

"I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com>

-

Golden Killfile, June 2005
KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016 

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