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DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......????

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  DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-02 03:41 -0700
    Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-03 14:19 -0700
      Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-04 08:44 -0700
        Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-04 18:30 -0700
          Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? Boris Mohar <borism_void_@sympatico.ca> - 2018-07-05 06:08 -0400
            Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-05 14:35 -0700
          Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-05 14:26 -0700
            Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-05 14:41 -0700
              Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-05 16:20 -0700
                Borat is illerate, obviously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-07-05 17:03 -0700
                  Re: Borat is illerate, obviously. poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-05 20:52 -0700
                  Re: Borat is illerate, obviously. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-06 14:50 -0700
                Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-05 20:50 -0700
                  Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-06 02:02 -0700
                    Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-06 14:52 -0700
                      MrAA is ashamed of his name. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-07-06 15:00 -0700
                      Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-06 17:20 -0700
                        Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-07 14:33 -0700
                          Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 23:23 -0700
                            Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-09 14:04 -0700
        Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-05 23:05 -0500
          Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-05 22:31 -0700
    Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? Kevin Lumburger <aser@hotmaile.com> - 2018-07-06 19:26 -0700
      Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-06 21:25 -0700
        Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? Kevin Lumburger <aser@hotmaile.com> - 2018-07-07 06:54 -0700
          Re: DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......???? poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-07-07 11:17 -0700

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#692397 — DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......????

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-02 03:41 -0700
SubjectDO YOU KNOW ABOUT ANY FORCE ......????
Message-ID<218510cf-2302-4d6f-bc8b-4fefa9289bf0@googlegroups.com>
Do you know about ANY  force 
of which  * mass*  is somehow 
not   associated with it ??!

and if so ??(if not )
can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??

=================================================
TIA
Y. Porat
=====================

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#692544

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-07-03 14:19 -0700
Message-ID<dee83534-5403-41ae-b3f8-716140c4aef0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692397
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> Do you know about ANY  force 
> of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> not   associated with it ??!
> 
> and if so ??(if not )
> can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> 
> =================================================
> TIA
> Y. Porat
> =====================


There only 4 of them.

Double-A

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#692600

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-04 08:44 -0700
Message-ID<c9184b4f-69ef-48c9-8e9c-dcf0a86e6884@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692544
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Do you know about ANY  force 
> > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> > not   associated with it ??!
> > 
> > and if so ??(if not )
> > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> > 
> > =================================================
> > TIA
> > Y. Porat
> > =====================
> 
> 
> There only 4 of them.
> 
> Double-A
============================
sorry
I didn't get you 
while you say 
only 4 of them 
there are more 
which for example 
lets hear about it 
=====
TIA
Y.Porat
======================

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#692627

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-04 18:30 -0700
Message-ID<3a8c41d7-f7e5-4a52-bee7-b50e55676112@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692600
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Do you know about ANY  force 
> > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> > > not   associated with it ??!
> > > 
> > > and if so ??(if not )
> > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> > > 
> > > =================================================
> > > TIA
> > > Y. Porat
> > > =====================
> > 
> > 
> > There only 4 of them.
> > 
> > Double-A
> ============================
> sorry
> I didn't get you 
> while you say 
> only 4 of them 
> there are more 
> which for example 
> lets hear about it 
> =====
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ======================
we have 
electric 
magnetic
electro magnetic 
strong force
weak force 

potential force 
what else ??
all of them are  **always * involved with mass

why ??
what is hidden behind ??
=========================
TIA
Y.Porat
====================

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#692640

FromBoris Mohar <borism_void_@sympatico.ca>
Date2018-07-05 06:08 -0400
Message-ID<eerrjd1tusibqr6o352anajsriuidhfc32@4ax.com>
In reply to#692627
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 18:30:51 -0700 (PDT), poraty6@gmail.com wrote:

>On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
>> > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > Do you know about ANY  force 
>> > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
>> > > not   associated with it ??!
>> > > 
>> > > and if so ??(if not )
>> > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
>> > > 
>> > > =================================================
>> > > TIA
>> > > Y. Porat
>> > > =====================
>> > 
>> > 
>> > There only 4 of them.
>> > 
>> > Double-A
>> ============================
>> sorry
>> I didn't get you 
>> while you say 
>> only 4 of them 
>> there are more 
>> which for example 
>> lets hear about it 
>> =====
>> TIA
>> Y.Porat
>> ======================
>we have 
>electric 
>magnetic
>electro magnetic 
>strong force
>weak force 
>
>potential force 
>what else ??
>all of them are  **always * involved with mass
>
>why ??
>what is hidden behind ??
>=========================
>TIA
>Y.Porat
>====================

Photon momentum


Regards,

Boris Mohar

Got Knock? - see:
Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs (among other things) http://www.viatrack.ca

void _-void-_ in the obvious place

 

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#692681

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-05 14:35 -0700
Message-ID<4f3f9bbf-5537-455c-a5e0-a160515feaeb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692640
On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 1:05:18 PM UTC+3, Boris Mohar wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 18:30:51 -0700 (PDT), poraty6@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> >On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> >> > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > Do you know about ANY  force 
> >> > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> >> > > not   associated with it ??!
> >> > > 
> >> > > and if so ??(if not )
> >> > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> >> > > 
> >> > > =================================================
> >> > > TIA
> >> > > Y. Porat
> >> > > =====================
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > There only 4 of them.
> >> > 
> >> > Double-A
> >> ============================
> >> sorry
> >> I didn't get you 
> >> while you say 
> >> only 4 of them 
> >> there are more 
> >> which for example 
> >> lets hear about it 
> >> =====
> >> TIA
> >> Y.Porat
> >> ======================
> >we have 
> >electric 
> >magnetic
> >electro magnetic 
> >strong force
> >weak force 
> >
> >potential force 
> >what else ??
> >all of them are  **always * involved with mass
> >
> >why ??
> >what is hidden behind ??
> >=========================
> >TIA
> >Y.Porat
> >====================
> 
> Photon momentum
>=================================== 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Boris Mohar

===========================
???????
photon momentum 
is a force ????


2
now even if we take an emitted   photon 

even  that comes out of …... MASS !!
so ??


even that
id a associated with    mass ….
so ??

TIA
Y.P
=====================================




 
> Got Knock? - see:
> Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs (among other things) http://www.viatrack.ca
> 
> void _-void-_ in the obvious place
> 
>  
> 
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#692680

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-07-05 14:26 -0700
Message-ID<aab19d05-cfa7-43ab-a287-7e770e02b2c6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692627
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Do you know about ANY  force 
> > > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> > > > not   associated with it ??!
> > > > 
> > > > and if so ??(if not )
> > > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> > > > 
> > > > =================================================
> > > > TIA
> > > > Y. Porat
> > > > =====================
> > > 
> > > 
> > > There only 4 of them.
> > > 
> > > Double-A
> > ============================
> > sorry
> > I didn't get you 
> > while you say 
> > only 4 of them 
> > there are more 
> > which for example 
> > lets hear about it 
> > =====
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ======================
> we have 
> electric 
> magnetic
> electro magnetic 
> strong force
> weak force 
> 
> potential force 
> what else ??
> all of them are  **always * involved with mass
> 
> why ??
> what is hidden behind ??
> =========================
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ====================


The electric and magnetic forces were combined years ago into the electromagnetic force.  Then there are gravity, the strong force, and the weak force.  The electromagnetic force and the weak are also thought to have been combined when the temperature of the universe was above  1015 K.  Those are the only real forces. 

Double-A

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#692683

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-05 14:41 -0700
Message-ID<4ce02db0-d9f8-4587-8edc-18b6b4cd10e4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692680
On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 12:26:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > Do you know about ANY  force 
> > > > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> > > > > not   associated with it ??!
> > > > > 
> > > > > and if so ??(if not )
> > > > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> > > > > 
> > > > > =================================================
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Y. Porat
> > > > > =====================
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > There only 4 of them.
> > > > 
> > > > Double-A
> > > ============================
> > > sorry
> > > I didn't get you 
> > > while you say 
> > > only 4 of them 
> > > there are more 
> > > which for example 
> > > lets hear about it 
> > > =====
> > > TIA
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ======================
> > we have 
> > electric 
> > magnetic
> > electro magnetic 
> > strong force
> > weak force 
> > 
> > potential force 
> > what else ??
> > all of them are  **always * involved with mass
> > 
> > why ??
> > what is hidden behind ??
> > =========================
> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
> > ====================
> 
> 
> The electric and magnetic forces were combined years ago into the electromagnetic force.  Then there are gravity, the strong force, and the weak force.  The electromagnetic force and the weak are also thought to have been combined when the temperature of the universe was above  1015 K.  Those are the only real forces. 
> 
> Double-A
=======================
thanks double A
--
so ???
but you see that all those that yo mentioned above 
are stemming/involved  from/with  mass ??
or not ??
so 
how come ??
=======================
TIA
Y.P
======

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#692695

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-07-05 16:20 -0700
Message-ID<c603fa05-c883-434f-9d4b-04fb73d7045c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692683
On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:42:00 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 12:26:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > Do you know about ANY  force 
> > > > > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> > > > > > not   associated with it ??!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > and if so ??(if not )
> > > > > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > =================================================
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > Y. Porat
> > > > > > =====================
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > There only 4 of them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Double-A
> > > > ============================
> > > > sorry
> > > > I didn't get you 
> > > > while you say 
> > > > only 4 of them 
> > > > there are more 
> > > > which for example 
> > > > lets hear about it 
> > > > =====
> > > > TIA
> > > > Y.Porat
> > > > ======================
> > > we have 
> > > electric 
> > > magnetic
> > > electro magnetic 
> > > strong force
> > > weak force 
> > > 
> > > potential force 
> > > what else ??
> > > all of them are  **always * involved with mass
> > > 
> > > why ??
> > > what is hidden behind ??
> > > =========================
> > > TIA
> > > Y.Porat
> > > ====================
> > 
> > 
> > The electric and magnetic forces were combined years ago into the electromagnetic force.  Then there are gravity, the strong force, and the weak force.  The electromagnetic force and the weak are also thought to have been combined when the temperature of the universe was above  1015 K.  Those are the only real forces. 
> > 
> > Double-A
> =======================
> thanks double A
> --
> so ???
> but you see that all those that yo mentioned above 
> are stemming/involved  from/with  mass ??
> or not ??
> so 
> how come ??
> =======================
> TIA
> Y.P
> ======


The thing is that "force" is defined as something that has an effect on physical objects.  Physical objects have mass, as opposed to ghosts, or imaginary objects upon which force has no effect.  Therefore, yes, force is always related to mass.

Double-A

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#692701 — Borat is illerate, obviously.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-07-05 17:03 -0700
SubjectBorat is illerate, obviously.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.5--5.03pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#692695
> Physical objects have mass

Borat is illerate, obviously.

Photons have inertia, not "mass" ( rest mass ).

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#692721 — Re: Borat is illerate, obviously.

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-05 20:52 -0700
SubjectRe: Borat is illerate, obviously.
Message-ID<dad616a2-9647-4808-8ddb-f556cf28b534@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692701
On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 3:03:27 AM UTC+3, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > Physical objects have mass
> 
> Borat is illerate, obviously.
> 
> Photons have inertia, not "mass" ( rest mass ).

======
retarded imbecile
even common physics 
was/is  talking about
'relativistic mass'''"" of the photon !
==
Y.P
====================================

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#692799 — Re: Borat is illerate, obviously.

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-07-06 14:50 -0700
SubjectRe: Borat is illerate, obviously.
Message-ID<4f52a853-dd66-40d9-855b-1608738add3a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692701
On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 5:03:27 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > Physical objects have mass
> 
> Borat is illerate, obviously.
> 
> Photons have inertia, not "mass" ( rest mass ).


I think the photon has rest mass.  It is very small, so they haven't been able to measure it.  But it would simplify things. 

Double-A

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#692720

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-05 20:50 -0700
Message-ID<8b458b37-bc7f-42cd-896f-d9a7516c2e67@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692695
On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:20:50 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:42:00 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 12:26:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > Do you know about ANY  force 
> > > > > > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> > > > > > > not   associated with it ??!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > and if so ??(if not )
> > > > > > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > =================================================
> > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > Y. Porat
> > > > > > > =====================
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There only 4 of them.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > ============================
> > > > > sorry
> > > > > I didn't get you 
> > > > > while you say 
> > > > > only 4 of them 
> > > > > there are more 
> > > > > which for example 
> > > > > lets hear about it 
> > > > > =====
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > ======================
> > > > we have 
> > > > electric 
> > > > magnetic
> > > > electro magnetic 
> > > > strong force
> > > > weak force 
> > > > 
> > > > potential force 
> > > > what else ??
> > > > all of them are  **always * involved with mass
> > > > 
> > > > why ??
> > > > what is hidden behind ??
> > > > =========================
> > > > TIA
> > > > Y.Porat
> > > > ====================
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The electric and magnetic forces were combined years ago into the electromagnetic force.  Then there are gravity, the strong force, and the weak force.  The electromagnetic force and the weak are also thought to have been combined when the temperature of the universe was above  1015 K.  Those are the only real forces. 
> > > 
> > > Double-A
> > =======================
> > thanks double A
> > --
> > so ???
> > but you see that all those that yo mentioned above 
> > are stemming/involved  from/with  mass ??
> > or not ??
> > so 
> > how come ??
> > =======================
> > TIA
> > Y.P
> > ======
> 
> 
> The thing is that "force" is defined as something that has an effect on physical objects.  Physical objects have mass, as opposed to ghosts, or imaginary objects upon which force has no effect.  Therefore, yes, force is always related to mass.
> 
> Double-A
=========================
T  H  A   N  K !!! you 
 my good  friend A  A 
BRAVO !!!

you hot it at last !!
NOW
the punch line that I still don't see it
black on while :

========================================
even so  fantastic revolutionary !!!
==========
MASS*** IS THE 'MOTHER /CRATOR !! OF ALL FORCES **INCLUDING GRAVITY***!!!!!!
=================================================

I hope that that very  simple understanding will be 

enshrined -  from now on and 'forever' 
as a very basic understanding about forces !!!
and by that
 will save a lot of human(wasted ) resources  !!!
=============================================
7/ 6 /2018
--
Eng
Yehiel .Porat
=============================

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#692735

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-06 02:02 -0700
Message-ID<d559463e-299b-4786-9ea9-3e0df0b513f6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692720
On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 6:50:17 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:20:50 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:42:00 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 12:26:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > Do you know about ANY  force 
> > > > > > > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> > > > > > > > not   associated with it ??!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > and if so ??(if not )
> > > > > > > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > =================================================
> > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > Y. Porat
> > > > > > > > =====================
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There only 4 of them.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > > ============================
> > > > > > sorry
> > > > > > I didn't get you 
> > > > > > while you say 
> > > > > > only 4 of them 
> > > > > > there are more 
> > > > > > which for example 
> > > > > > lets hear about it 
> > > > > > =====
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > ======================
> > > > > we have 
> > > > > electric 
> > > > > magnetic
> > > > > electro magnetic 
> > > > > strong force
> > > > > weak force 
> > > > > 
> > > > > potential force 
> > > > > what else ??
> > > > > all of them are  **always * involved with mass
> > > > > 
> > > > > why ??
> > > > > what is hidden behind ??
> > > > > =========================
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > ====================
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The electric and magnetic forces were combined years ago into the electromagnetic force.  Then there are gravity, the strong force, and the weak force.  The electromagnetic force and the weak are also thought to have been combined when the temperature of the universe was above  1015 K.  Those are the only real forces. 
> > > > 
> > > > Double-A
> > > =======================
> > > thanks double A
> > > --
> > > so ???
> > > but you see that all those that yo mentioned above 
> > > are stemming/involved  from/with  mass ??
> > > or not ??
> > > so 
> > > how come ??
> > > =======================
> > > TIA
> > > Y.P
> > > ======
> > 
> > 
> > The thing is that "force" is defined as something that has an effect on physical objects.  Physical objects have mass, as opposed to ghosts, or imaginary objects upon which force has no effect.  Therefore, yes, force is always related to mass.
> > 
> > Double-A
> =========================
> T  H  A   N  K !!! you 
>  my good  friend A  A 
> BRAVO !!!
> 
> you hot it at last !!
> NOW
> the punch line that I still don't see it
> black on while :
> 
> ========================================
> even so  fantastic revolutionary !!!
> ==========
> MASS*** IS THE 'MOTHER /CRATOR !! OF ALL FORCES **INCLUDING GRAVITY***!!!!!!
> =================================================
> 
> I hope that that very  simple understanding will be 
> 
> enshrined -  from now on and 'forever' 
> as a very basic understanding about forces !!!
> and by that
>  will save a lot of human(wasted ) resources  !!!
> =============================================
> 7/ 6 /2018
> --
> Eng
> Yehiel .Porat
> =============================

Hi My friend A  A 
 I am curious 

can we know 
what   is your real name ??!!!
==
thanks in advance (TIA)

================
Eng
Yehiel   .Porat
==================

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#692800

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-07-06 14:52 -0700
Message-ID<a3ed4149-0d7e-4522-8ec7-1477e02aa3cc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692735
On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:02:21 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 6:50:17 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:20:50 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:42:00 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 12:26:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Do you know about ANY  force 
> > > > > > > > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> > > > > > > > > not   associated with it ??!
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > and if so ??(if not )
> > > > > > > > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > =================================================
> > > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > > Y. Porat
> > > > > > > > > =====================
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > There only 4 of them.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > > > ============================
> > > > > > > sorry
> > > > > > > I didn't get you 
> > > > > > > while you say 
> > > > > > > only 4 of them 
> > > > > > > there are more 
> > > > > > > which for example 
> > > > > > > lets hear about it 
> > > > > > > =====
> > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > > ======================
> > > > > > we have 
> > > > > > electric 
> > > > > > magnetic
> > > > > > electro magnetic 
> > > > > > strong force
> > > > > > weak force 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > potential force 
> > > > > > what else ??
> > > > > > all of them are  **always * involved with mass
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > why ??
> > > > > > what is hidden behind ??
> > > > > > =========================
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > ====================
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The electric and magnetic forces were combined years ago into the electromagnetic force.  Then there are gravity, the strong force, and the weak force.  The electromagnetic force and the weak are also thought to have been combined when the temperature of the universe was above  1015 K.  Those are the only real forces. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Double-A
> > > > =======================
> > > > thanks double A
> > > > --
> > > > so ???
> > > > but you see that all those that yo mentioned above 
> > > > are stemming/involved  from/with  mass ??
> > > > or not ??
> > > > so 
> > > > how come ??
> > > > =======================
> > > > TIA
> > > > Y.P
> > > > ======
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The thing is that "force" is defined as something that has an effect on physical objects.  Physical objects have mass, as opposed to ghosts, or imaginary objects upon which force has no effect.  Therefore, yes, force is always related to mass.
> > > 
> > > Double-A
> > =========================
> > T  H  A   N  K !!! you 
> >  my good  friend A  A 
> > BRAVO !!!
> > 
> > you hot it at last !!
> > NOW
> > the punch line that I still don't see it
> > black on while :
> > 
> > ========================================
> > even so  fantastic revolutionary !!!
> > ==========
> > MASS*** IS THE 'MOTHER /CRATOR !! OF ALL FORCES **INCLUDING GRAVITY***!!!!!!
> > =================================================
> > 
> > I hope that that very  simple understanding will be 
> > 
> > enshrined -  from now on and 'forever' 
> > as a very basic understanding about forces !!!
> > and by that
> >  will save a lot of human(wasted ) resources  !!!
> > =============================================
> > 7/ 6 /2018
> > --
> > Eng
> > Yehiel .Porat
> > =============================
> 
> Hi My friend A  A 
>  I am curious 
> 
> can we know 
> what   is your real name ??!!!
> ==
> thanks in advance (TIA)
> 
> ================
> Eng
> Yehiel   .Porat
> ==================


What good would my real name do you?  I am not published anywhere.  You could not look me up.  What is in a name, anyway?

Double-A

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#692803 — MrAA is ashamed of his name.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-07-06 15:00 -0700
SubjectMrAA is ashamed of his name.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.6--3.00pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#692800
You ( MrAA ) are ashamed of your name.

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#692839

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-06 17:20 -0700
Message-ID<cf3f1998-42f1-46b8-a197-41979da50728@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692800
On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:52:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:02:21 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 6:50:17 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:20:50 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:42:00 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 12:26:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Do you know about ANY  force 
> > > > > > > > > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> > > > > > > > > > not   associated with it ??!
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > and if so ??(if not )
> > > > > > > > > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > =================================================
> > > > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > > > Y. Porat
> > > > > > > > > > =====================
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > There only 4 of them.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > > > > ============================
> > > > > > > > sorry
> > > > > > > > I didn't get you 
> > > > > > > > while you say 
> > > > > > > > only 4 of them 
> > > > > > > > there are more 
> > > > > > > > which for example 
> > > > > > > > lets hear about it 
> > > > > > > > =====
> > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > > > ======================
> > > > > > > we have 
> > > > > > > electric 
> > > > > > > magnetic
> > > > > > > electro magnetic 
> > > > > > > strong force
> > > > > > > weak force 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > potential force 
> > > > > > > what else ??
> > > > > > > all of them are  **always * involved with mass
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > why ??
> > > > > > > what is hidden behind ??
> > > > > > > =========================
> > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > > ====================
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The electric and magnetic forces were combined years ago into the electromagnetic force.  Then there are gravity, the strong force, and the weak force.  The electromagnetic force and the weak are also thought to have been combined when the temperature of the universe was above  1015 K.  Those are the only real forces. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > =======================
> > > > > thanks double A
> > > > > --
> > > > > so ???
> > > > > but you see that all those that yo mentioned above 
> > > > > are stemming/involved  from/with  mass ??
> > > > > or not ??
> > > > > so 
> > > > > how come ??
> > > > > =======================
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Y.P
> > > > > ======
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The thing is that "force" is defined as something that has an effect on physical objects.  Physical objects have mass, as opposed to ghosts, or imaginary objects upon which force has no effect.  Therefore, yes, force is always related to mass.
> > > > 
> > > > Double-A
> > > =========================
> > > T  H  A   N  K !!! you 
> > >  my good  friend A  A 
> > > BRAVO !!!
> > > 
> > > you hot it at last !!
> > > NOW
> > > the punch line that I still don't see it
> > > black on while :
> > > 
> > > ========================================
> > > even so  fantastic revolutionary !!!
> > > ==========
> > > MASS*** IS THE 'MOTHER /CRATOR !! OF ALL FORCES **INCLUDING GRAVITY***!!!!!!
> > > =================================================
> > > 
> > > I hope that that very  simple understanding will be 
> > > 
> > > enshrined -  from now on and 'forever' 
> > > as a very basic understanding about forces !!!
> > > and by that
> > >  will save a lot of human(wasted ) resources  !!!
> > > =============================================
> > > 7/ 6 /2018
> > > --
> > > Eng
> > > Yehiel .Porat
> > > =============================
> > 
> > Hi My friend A  A 
> >  I am curious 
> > 
> > can we know 
> > what   is your real name ??!!!
> > ==
> > thanks in advance (TIA)
> > 
> > ================
> > Eng
> > Yehiel   .Porat
> > ==================
> 
> 
> What good would my real name do you?  I am not published anywhere.  You could not look me up.  What is in a name, anyway?
> 
> Double-A
===
Hi A A
don't be so modest !
you helped me 
to do an unprecedented advance !!
so
it is not0nly for me and you
you are for a change here 
an honest decent cleaver man (or woman ??)

I wonder that you don't get
what we did above 
is more important than 
just ''ego massaging ''

it is much more than our private benefit !
and people like us 
deserve  a bit more attention
not only for our 'private business'  

Tanks gain
==
Y.P
====================

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#693005

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-07-07 14:33 -0700
Message-ID<a71b738c-7126-4eb0-a5a1-4aeb1ef71e5b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#692839
On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 5:20:09 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:52:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:02:21 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 6:50:17 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:20:50 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:42:00 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 12:26:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Do you know about ANY  force 
> > > > > > > > > > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> > > > > > > > > > > not   associated with it ??!
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > and if so ??(if not )
> > > > > > > > > > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > =================================================
> > > > > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > > > > Y. Porat
> > > > > > > > > > > =====================
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > There only 4 of them.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > > > > > ============================
> > > > > > > > > sorry
> > > > > > > > > I didn't get you 
> > > > > > > > > while you say 
> > > > > > > > > only 4 of them 
> > > > > > > > > there are more 
> > > > > > > > > which for example 
> > > > > > > > > lets hear about it 
> > > > > > > > > =====
> > > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > > > > ======================
> > > > > > > > we have 
> > > > > > > > electric 
> > > > > > > > magnetic
> > > > > > > > electro magnetic 
> > > > > > > > strong force
> > > > > > > > weak force 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > potential force 
> > > > > > > > what else ??
> > > > > > > > all of them are  **always * involved with mass
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > why ??
> > > > > > > > what is hidden behind ??
> > > > > > > > =========================
> > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > > > ====================
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The electric and magnetic forces were combined years ago into the electromagnetic force.  Then there are gravity, the strong force, and the weak force.  The electromagnetic force and the weak are also thought to have been combined when the temperature of the universe was above  1015 K.  Those are the only real forces. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > > =======================
> > > > > > thanks double A
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > so ???
> > > > > > but you see that all those that yo mentioned above 
> > > > > > are stemming/involved  from/with  mass ??
> > > > > > or not ??
> > > > > > so 
> > > > > > how come ??
> > > > > > =======================
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > Y.P
> > > > > > ======
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The thing is that "force" is defined as something that has an effect on physical objects.  Physical objects have mass, as opposed to ghosts, or imaginary objects upon which force has no effect.  Therefore, yes, force is always related to mass.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Double-A
> > > > =========================
> > > > T  H  A   N  K !!! you 
> > > >  my good  friend A  A 
> > > > BRAVO !!!
> > > > 
> > > > you hot it at last !!
> > > > NOW
> > > > the punch line that I still don't see it
> > > > black on while :
> > > > 
> > > > ========================================
> > > > even so  fantastic revolutionary !!!
> > > > ==========
> > > > MASS*** IS THE 'MOTHER /CRATOR !! OF ALL FORCES **INCLUDING GRAVITY***!!!!!!
> > > > =================================================
> > > > 
> > > > I hope that that very  simple understanding will be 
> > > > 
> > > > enshrined -  from now on and 'forever' 
> > > > as a very basic understanding about forces !!!
> > > > and by that
> > > >  will save a lot of human(wasted ) resources  !!!
> > > > =============================================
> > > > 7/ 6 /2018
> > > > --
> > > > Eng
> > > > Yehiel .Porat
> > > > =============================
> > > 
> > > Hi My friend A  A 
> > >  I am curious 
> > > 
> > > can we know 
> > > what   is your real name ??!!!
> > > ==
> > > thanks in advance (TIA)
> > > 
> > > ================
> > > Eng
> > > Yehiel   .Porat
> > > ==================
> > 
> > 
> > What good would my real name do you?  I am not published anywhere.  You could not look me up.  What is in a name, anyway?
> > 
> > Double-A
> ===
> Hi A A
> don't be so modest !
> you helped me 
> to do an unprecedented advance !!
> so
> it is not0nly for me and you
> you are for a change here 
> an honest decent cleaver man (or woman ??)
> 
> I wonder that you don't get
> what we did above 
> is more important than 
> just ''ego massaging ''
> 
> it is much more than our private benefit !
> and people like us 
> deserve  a bit more attention
> not only for our 'private business'  
> 
> Tanks gain
> ==
> Y.P
> ====================


If you win the Nobel in physics for it, I'll let you take all the credit.

Double-A

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#693070

Fromporaty6@gmail.com
Date2018-07-07 23:23 -0700
Message-ID<cd547c39-4af5-4fb1-9c8a-7f9725169536@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#693005
On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 12:33:58 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 5:20:09 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:52:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:02:21 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 6:50:17 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:20:50 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:42:00 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 12:26:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Do you know about ANY  force 
> > > > > > > > > > > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> > > > > > > > > > > > not   associated with it ??!
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > and if so ??(if not )
> > > > > > > > > > > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================
> > > > > > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > > > > > Y. Porat
> > > > > > > > > > > > =====================
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > There only 4 of them.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > > > > > > ============================
> > > > > > > > > > sorry
> > > > > > > > > > I didn't get you 
> > > > > > > > > > while you say 
> > > > > > > > > > only 4 of them 
> > > > > > > > > > there are more 
> > > > > > > > > > which for example 
> > > > > > > > > > lets hear about it 
> > > > > > > > > > =====
> > > > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > > > > > ======================
> > > > > > > > > we have 
> > > > > > > > > electric 
> > > > > > > > > magnetic
> > > > > > > > > electro magnetic 
> > > > > > > > > strong force
> > > > > > > > > weak force 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > potential force 
> > > > > > > > > what else ??
> > > > > > > > > all of them are  **always * involved with mass
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > why ??
> > > > > > > > > what is hidden behind ??
> > > > > > > > > =========================
> > > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > > > > ====================
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The electric and magnetic forces were combined years ago into the electromagnetic force.  Then there are gravity, the strong force, and the weak force.  The electromagnetic force and the weak are also thought to have been combined when the temperature of the universe was above  1015 K.  Those are the only real forces. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > > > =======================
> > > > > > > thanks double A
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > so ???
> > > > > > > but you see that all those that yo mentioned above 
> > > > > > > are stemming/involved  from/with  mass ??
> > > > > > > or not ??
> > > > > > > so 
> > > > > > > how come ??
> > > > > > > =======================
> > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > Y.P
> > > > > > > ======
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The thing is that "force" is defined as something that has an effect on physical objects.  Physical objects have mass, as opposed to ghosts, or imaginary objects upon which force has no effect.  Therefore, yes, force is always related to mass.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > =========================
> > > > > T  H  A   N  K !!! you 
> > > > >  my good  friend A  A 
> > > > > BRAVO !!!
> > > > > 
> > > > > you hot it at last !!
> > > > > NOW
> > > > > the punch line that I still don't see it
> > > > > black on while :
> > > > > 
> > > > > ========================================
> > > > > even so  fantastic revolutionary !!!
> > > > > ==========
> > > > > MASS*** IS THE 'MOTHER /CRATOR !! OF ALL FORCES **INCLUDING GRAVITY***!!!!!!
> > > > > =================================================
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hope that that very  simple understanding will be 
> > > > > 
> > > > > enshrined -  from now on and 'forever' 
> > > > > as a very basic understanding about forces !!!
> > > > > and by that
> > > > >  will save a lot of human(wasted ) resources  !!!
> > > > > =============================================
> > > > > 7/ 6 /2018
> > > > > --
> > > > > Eng
> > > > > Yehiel .Porat
> > > > > =============================
> > > > 
> > > > Hi My friend A  A 
> > > >  I am curious 
> > > > 
> > > > can we know 
> > > > what   is your real name ??!!!
> > > > ==
> > > > thanks in advance (TIA)
> > > > 
> > > > ================
> > > > Eng
> > > > Yehiel   .Porat
> > > > ==================
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What good would my real name do you?  I am not published anywhere.  You could not look me up.  What is in a name, anyway?
> > > 
> > > Double-A
> > ===
> > Hi A A
> > don't be so modest !
> > you helped me 
> > to do an unprecedented advance !!
> > so
> > it is not0nly for me and you
> > you are for a change here 
> > an honest decent cleaver man (or woman ??)
> > 
> > I wonder that you don't get
> > what we did above 
> > is more important than 
> > just ''ego massaging ''
> > 
> > it is much more than our private benefit !
> > and people like us 
> > deserve  a bit more attention
> > not only for our 'private business'  
> > 
> > Tanks gain
> > ==
> > Y.P
> > ====================
> 
> 
> If you win the Nobel in physics for it, I'll let you take all the credit.
> 
> Double-A

=====================
we are not here for bestowing Nobel s 
before ''Nobel
we have to swat a bit with a lot of work !!

ie
to be deserved of it   

and try to believe me :
not all there is  nice and clear and clean !!

for instance 
the ''Higgs Boson'' award and  '' story
was a one big stinking  business shameless   case !!!!! 

====
ATB
Y.Porat
===========================

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#693337

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-07-09 14:04 -0700
Message-ID<2ba32cb5-b2bc-47e1-b327-809aeb32d0e4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#693070
On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 11:23:57 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 12:33:58 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 5:20:09 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:52:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:02:21 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 6:50:17 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:20:50 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:42:00 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 12:26:32 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:30:54 PM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:19:17 AM UTC+3, Double-A wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, por...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you know about ANY  force 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of which  * mass*  is somehow 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not   associated with it ??!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and if so ??(if not )
> > > > > > > > > > > > > can we draw some   * new* insights  about it  ??
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================
> > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Y. Porat
> > > > > > > > > > > > > =====================
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > There only 4 of them.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > > > > > > > ============================
> > > > > > > > > > > sorry
> > > > > > > > > > > I didn't get you 
> > > > > > > > > > > while you say 
> > > > > > > > > > > only 4 of them 
> > > > > > > > > > > there are more 
> > > > > > > > > > > which for example 
> > > > > > > > > > > lets hear about it 
> > > > > > > > > > > =====
> > > > > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > > > > > > ======================
> > > > > > > > > > we have 
> > > > > > > > > > electric 
> > > > > > > > > > magnetic
> > > > > > > > > > electro magnetic 
> > > > > > > > > > strong force
> > > > > > > > > > weak force 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > potential force 
> > > > > > > > > > what else ??
> > > > > > > > > > all of them are  **always * involved with mass
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > why ??
> > > > > > > > > > what is hidden behind ??
> > > > > > > > > > =========================
> > > > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > > > > > ====================
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The electric and magnetic forces were combined years ago into the electromagnetic force.  Then there are gravity, the strong force, and the weak force.  The electromagnetic force and the weak are also thought to have been combined when the temperature of the universe was above  1015 K.  Those are the only real forces. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > > > > =======================
> > > > > > > > thanks double A
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > so ???
> > > > > > > > but you see that all those that yo mentioned above 
> > > > > > > > are stemming/involved  from/with  mass ??
> > > > > > > > or not ??
> > > > > > > > so 
> > > > > > > > how come ??
> > > > > > > > =======================
> > > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > > Y.P
> > > > > > > > ======
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The thing is that "force" is defined as something that has an effect on physical objects.  Physical objects have mass, as opposed to ghosts, or imaginary objects upon which force has no effect.  Therefore, yes, force is always related to mass.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Double-A
> > > > > > =========================
> > > > > > T  H  A   N  K !!! you 
> > > > > >  my good  friend A  A 
> > > > > > BRAVO !!!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > you hot it at last !!
> > > > > > NOW
> > > > > > the punch line that I still don't see it
> > > > > > black on while :
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ========================================
> > > > > > even so  fantastic revolutionary !!!
> > > > > > ==========
> > > > > > MASS*** IS THE 'MOTHER /CRATOR !! OF ALL FORCES **INCLUDING GRAVITY***!!!!!!
> > > > > > =================================================
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I hope that that very  simple understanding will be 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > enshrined -  from now on and 'forever' 
> > > > > > as a very basic understanding about forces !!!
> > > > > > and by that
> > > > > >  will save a lot of human(wasted ) resources  !!!
> > > > > > =============================================
> > > > > > 7/ 6 /2018
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Eng
> > > > > > Yehiel .Porat
> > > > > > =============================
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi My friend A  A 
> > > > >  I am curious 
> > > > > 
> > > > > can we know 
> > > > > what   is your real name ??!!!
> > > > > ==
> > > > > thanks in advance (TIA)
> > > > > 
> > > > > ================
> > > > > Eng
> > > > > Yehiel   .Porat
> > > > > ==================
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > What good would my real name do you?  I am not published anywhere.  You could not look me up.  What is in a name, anyway?
> > > > 
> > > > Double-A
> > > ===
> > > Hi A A
> > > don't be so modest !
> > > you helped me 
> > > to do an unprecedented advance !!
> > > so
> > > it is not0nly for me and you
> > > you are for a change here 
> > > an honest decent cleaver man (or woman ??)
> > > 
> > > I wonder that you don't get
> > > what we did above 
> > > is more important than 
> > > just ''ego massaging ''
> > > 
> > > it is much more than our private benefit !
> > > and people like us 
> > > deserve  a bit more attention
> > > not only for our 'private business'  
> > > 
> > > Tanks gain
> > > ==
> > > Y.P
> > > ====================
> > 
> > 
> > If you win the Nobel in physics for it, I'll let you take all the credit.
> > 
> > Double-A
> 
> =====================
> we are not here for bestowing Nobel s 
> before ''Nobel
> we have to swat a bit with a lot of work !!
> 
> ie
> to be deserved of it   
> 
> and try to believe me :
> not all there is  nice and clear and clean !!
> 
> for instance 
> the ''Higgs Boson'' award and  '' story
> was a one big stinking  business shameless   case !!!!! 
> 
> ====
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> ===========================


What about gravitational waves?

Double-A

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