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What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out

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  What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 13:28 -0800
    What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2018-12-27 14:56 -0800
      Re: What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-12-27 15:05 -0800
        Re: What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2019-01-01 06:49 -0800
          Re: What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 17:28 -0800
            Re: What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-01 20:42 -0800
          Re: What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2019-01-03 15:13 -0800
      Re: What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 13:01 -0800
        Re: What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 16:39 -0800
          Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-28 17:04 -0800
            Re: Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-28 18:13 -0700
            Re: Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-12-30 14:27 -0800
              Everything dies; gravity is no exception. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-30 14:47 -0800
                Re: Everything dies; gravity is no exception. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 10:50 -0800
                  The hot dense sun evaporates into the cold vacuum. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-01 14:21 -0800
                  Re: Everything dies; gravity is no exception. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 13:41 -0500
                    Re: Everything dies; gravity is no exception. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 11:28 -0800
            Re: Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-02 00:15 +0000
              What doesn't evaporate, sublimate, and degrade ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-01 16:48 -0800
                Re: What doesn't evaporate, sublimate, and degrade ? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-02 05:14 +0000
                  A PERFECTLY uniform universe has no exergy/gravity. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-01 23:51 -0800
                    Re: A PERFECTLY uniform universe has no exergy/gravity. Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-01-02 11:02 -0600
                    Re: A PERFECTLY uniform universe has no exergy/gravity. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-03 15:46 +0000
                      There's no "down" in a uniform heat bath universe. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-03 14:38 -0800
                        Re: There's no "down" in a uniform heat bath universe. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-03 23:53 +0000
                          Zero kinetic energy. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-03 17:34 -0800
                            Re: Zero kinetic energy. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-04 16:22 +0000
                              Gravity is residual exergy, and it's dying off. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-04 14:48 -0800
                                Re: Gravity is residual exergy, and it's dying off. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-04 23:45 +0000
                                  The gravitational energy of our Universe is asymptotically approaching zero. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-04 16:35 -0800
                                    Re: The gravitational energy of our Universe is asymptotically approaching zero. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 01:24 +0000
                        Re: There's no "down" in a uniform heat bath universe. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 17:05 -0700
          Re: What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-12-28 20:37 -0800
    What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 17:46 -0800
    Re: What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 16:52 -0800
    Re: What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-01 23:47 -0600

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#721152 — What if The Universe was Falling in,and Not Out

This is not bad thinking since we know gravity is a one way in force.Universe so big,and galaxies so far apart.We know red light is in and with this we go with expansion.Still gravity tells me to think in this falling in posibility.How say you? Bert

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#721164

The universe, by definition, is in free fall, Reber. Everything free falling in the local spacetime curvatures.

Happy new year to of yous 

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#721166

On Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 2:56:47 PM UTC-8, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> The universe, by definition, is in free fall, Reber. Everything free falling in the local spacetime curvatures.
> 
> Happy new year to of yous


Happy New Years, Sam!

Double-A

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#721893

Happy New Year Double-A
Thank you.

I will likely get too busy to post here very often.
    http://edu-observatory.org/olli/classes.html

Maybe this will be the year (2019) that we nail down more information on Dark Matter.

Best Regards.

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#722005

On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 6:49:28 AM UTC-8, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> Happy New Year Double-A
> Thank you.
> 
> I will likely get too busy to post here very often.
>     http://edu-observatory.org/olli/classes.html
> 
> Maybe this will be the year (2019) that we nail down more information on Dark Matter.
> 
> Best Regards.

Reality gravity will win,and create an implosion that will make the Sun a white dwarf.That is the way medium stars end up.Dark matter is not part of our universe.My "time laps theory tells why. BHs could be said to be Dark Matter,but they are not.Yes I have a theory as to what is the structure inside a BH.Will post it clearly in time.Bert

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#722022

We see expansion accelerating.
Why should we not believe what we
see now? The only thing now we could
count on is sameness.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#722164

On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 6:49:28 AM UTC-8, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> Happy New Year Double-A
> Thank you.
> 
> I will likely get too busy to post here very often.
>     http://edu-observatory.org/olli/classes.html
> 
> Maybe this will be the year (2019) that we nail down more information on Dark Matter.
> 
> Best Regards.


We have a solar observatory at my alma mater Mt. Hood Community College just down the street.  Also a fine planetarium.

Double-A

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#721272

On Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 2:56:47 PM UTC-8, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> The universe, by definition, is in free fall, Reber. Everything free falling in the local spacetime curvatures.
> 
> Happy new year to of yous

Does free fall lack inertia? I think not  Have New Year and good health.Eat MSP and be like me over ninety.Bert

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#721344

On Friday, December 28, 2018 at 1:21:45 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 2:56:47 PM UTC-8, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The universe, by definition, is in free fall, Reber. Everything free falling in the local spacetime curvatures.
> > 
> > Happy new year to of yous
> 
> Does free fall lack inertia? I think not  Have New Year and good health.Eat MSP and be like me over ninety.Bert

Where ever a particle exists it makes a space dimple.Where ever a star exists it makes a dent.Where there is a galaxy its a big concave dent.etc. What keeps all from falling into each other is circular motion.Gravity force pushes in,and centrifical force pushes out.Its all well balance to last billions of years. Thus here we are,and lucky we are.Bert

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#721364 — Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P.

Sam Wormley wrote:
> > Everything free falling in the local spacetime curvatures.

The moon is "falling" away from the earth,
4.3 million tons are "falling" away from the sun every second,
and gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P.

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#721369 — Re: Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P.

On 12/28/18 6:04 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> Everything free falling in the local spacetime curvatures.
> 
> The moon is "falling" away from the earth,
> 4.3 million tons are "falling" away from the sun every second,
> and gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P.
> 

Gravity does not exist.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#721612 — Re: Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P.

On Friday, December 28, 2018 at 5:04:44 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > Everything free falling in the local spacetime curvatures.
> 
> The moon is "falling" away from the earth,
> 4.3 million tons are "falling" away from the sun every second,
> and gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P.


Gravity never dies!

Double-A

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#721615 — Everything dies; gravity is no exception.

MrAA:
> Gravity never dies!

Everything dies; gravity is no exception.

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#721911 — Re: Everything dies; gravity is no exception.

On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 2:47:30 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> MrAA:
> > Gravity never dies!
> 
> Everything dies; gravity is no exception.

Gravity is the exception.Reality is matter can not be created nor destroyed.G=EMC^2 Gravity can turn matter into energy(photons,and Neutrons)Think QED  Bert

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#721956 — The hot dense sun evaporates into the cold vacuum.

> > > Gravity never dies !
> > 
> > Everything dies; gravity is no exception.
> 
> Gravity is the exception.

The hot dense sun evaporates into the cold vacuum;
the sun is losing 4.3 million tons/second.

Eventually, all eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy,
but none of the eXergy.  

Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^−52 / Meters^2 ) tells us 
that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off;
-- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852,
   is the most likley outcome.

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#722066 — Re: Everything dies; gravity is no exception.

On 1/1/2019 1:50 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 2:47:30 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> MrAA:
>>> Gravity never dies!
>>
>> Everything dies; gravity is no exception.
> 
> Gravity is the exception.Reality is matter can not be created nor destroyed.G=EMC^2 Gravity can turn matter into energy(photons,and Neutrons)Think QED  Bert
> 
Hey Jewish fool, G-D never dies!

Remember that G in G=EMC^2 can be EITHER G-d or gravity!

Oh ya! It fits! Nobel level thinking!

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#722070 — Re: Everything dies; gravity is no exception.

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:41:44 AM UTC-8, benj wrote:
> On 1/1/2019 1:50 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 2:47:30 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >> MrAA:
> >>> Gravity never dies!
> >>
> >> Everything dies; gravity is no exception.
> > 
> > Gravity is the exception.Reality is matter can not be created nor destroyed.G=EMC^2 Gravity can turn matter into energy(photons,and Neutrons)Think QED  Bert
> > 
> Hey Jewish fool, G-D never dies!
> 
> Remember that G in G=EMC^2 can be EITHER G-d or gravity!
> 
> Oh ya! It fits! Nobel level thinking!

Its reality Nobel was Jewish too.More Jews get Nobels then Gods. My

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#721990 — Re: Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P.

Jeff-Relf.Me  @. writes:

>Sam Wormley wrote:
>> > Everything free falling in the local spacetime curvatures.

>The moon is "falling" away from the earth,

Nothing to do with "dying" gravity.  It is gaining angular momentum from
the slowing rotation of the earth, caused by tides. This causes it to 
orbit further out. (this also converts some of the energy of earth's
rotation into gravitational potential energy of the moon/earth)

If a moon orbits retrograde or orbits its planet faster than the planet
rotates, tidal effects cause it to get _closer_ to the host planet.
Eventually the moon will either collide with its planet or break up into a
ring system.  Triton orbits Neptune, it will crash into it after some
billions of years. Phobos orbits Mars faster than Mars rotates, it, too,
will break up or crash in only 30-50 million years.

Earth's moon will move away until the earth's rotation is slowed enough
to be tidally locked with the moon (earth keeps the same face to the moon
same as the moon keeps the same face to the earth), again in some billions
of years.  Nothing to do with gravity dissipating, everything to do with
complex Newtonian mechanics.

>4.3 million tons are "falling" away from the sun every second,
>and gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P.

Yes the sun has a finite life span, but the sun will die because it will
run out of hydrogen, not because it radiates energy away.  The energy
radiated away still gravitates.  The Pound-Rebka experiment effect will
also convert a little of the photon's energy to gravitational potential
energy.  Just as galaxy cluster motion converts some "dark energy" into
gravitational potential energy.

Being "inside" the photon shell, we can't detect the gravitation of the
sun's past light from here.

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#721995 — What doesn't evaporate, sublimate, and degrade ?

What doesn't evaporate, sublimate, and degrade, "Michael" ( James McGinn ) ?

WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Sublimation_(phase_transition)

Eventually, all eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy,
but none of the "eXergy" ( a type of energy that can do physical work,
force * distance ).  Gravity is residual exergy.

Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^−52 / Meters^2 ) tells us 
that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off;
-- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852,
   is the most likley outcome.

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#722024 — Re: What doesn't evaporate, sublimate, and degrade ?

Jeff-Relf.Me  @. writes:

>What doesn't evaporate, sublimate, and degrade, "Michael" ( James McGinn ) ?

>WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Sublimation_(phase_transition)

Irrelevant chemical behavior.

>Eventually, all eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy,
>leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy,
>but none of the "eXergy" ( a type of energy that can do physical work,
>force * distance ).

I have no issue with the heat death of the universe.

>  Gravity is residual exergy.

That is simply crap you made up.

>Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^−52 / Meters^2 ) tells us 
>that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off;

Again, the last phrase is just crap you made up.

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