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  Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 13:16 -0800
    Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think Boris Mohar <borism_void_@sympatico.ca> - 2018-12-07 04:50 -0500
    Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-12-10 14:37 -0800
      Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 08:00 -0800
        Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 12:17 +0000
          Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 04:45 -0800
      Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think sam.wormley@gmail.com - 2018-12-12 13:34 -0800
        Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-12 23:01 +0000
          Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-12 23:29 +0000
            Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-13 00:22 +0000
              Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 01:23 +0000
                Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-13 03:29 +0000
                  Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 11:59 +0000
                    Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 15:54 -0500
                    Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-12-13 23:43 +0000
          Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 15:45 -0500
        Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-12-13 12:59 -0800
          Robots will replace us. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-13 14:36 -0800
            Re: Robots will replace us. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-12-13 14:55 -0800
      Re: Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-14 09:49 -0800

#716983 — Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think

Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07586-5

"In October, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) released a report setting out why we must stop global warming at 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels, and how to do so1. It is grim reading. If the planet warms by 2 °C — the widely touted temperature limit in the 2015 Paris climate agreement — twice as many people will face water scarcity than if warming is limited to 1.5 °C. That extra warming will also expose more than 1.5 billion people to deadly heat extremes, and hundreds of millions of individuals to vector-borne diseases such as malaria, among other harms.

"But the latest IPCC special report underplays another alarming fact: global warming is accelerating. Three trends — rising emissions, declining air pollution and natural climate cycles — will combine over the next 20 years to make climate change faster and more furious than anticipated. In our view, there’s a good chance that we could breach the 1.5 °C level by 2030, not by 2040 as projected in the special report (see ‘Accelerated warming’). The climate-modelling community has not grappled enough with the rapid changes that policymakers care most about, preferring to focus on longer-term trends and equilibria."
  
Here’s the CO2 concentration updated yesterday:
    https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/wp-content/plugins/sio-bluemoon/graphs/mlo_full_record.png


Further References:
   Fourth National Climate Assessment (NCA4), Volume I
       https://science2017.globalchange.gov
   Fourth National Climate Assessment (NCA4), Volume II
       https://nca2018.globalchange.gov
   IPCC
      http://www.ipcc.ch

   Climate Change Indicators
       https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/indicators.php
       http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
       https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/weather-climate

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#717065

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 13:16:06 -0800 (PST), sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:

>Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think

On the other hand:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2018/12/05/story-behind-an-incredible-sky-scene-new-hampshire/?utm_term=.be11ccdddcdf

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=professor+valentina+zharkova+breaks+her+silence

https://www.iceagenow.info/lack-of-sunspots-to-bring-record-cold-warns-nasa-scientist/

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/09/09/empirical-evidence-shows-temperature-increases-before-co2-increase-in-all-records/
-- 
Boris

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#717604

On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-8, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think
> https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07586-5
> 
> "In October, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) released a report setting out why we must stop global warming at 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels, and how to do so1. It is grim reading. If the planet warms by 2 °C — the widely touted temperature limit in the 2015 Paris climate agreement — twice as many people will face water scarcity than if warming is limited to 1.5 °C. That extra warming will also expose more than 1.5 billion people to deadly heat extremes, and hundreds of millions of individuals to vector-borne diseases such as malaria, among other harms.
> 
> "But the latest IPCC special report underplays another alarming fact: global warming is accelerating. Three trends — rising emissions, declining air pollution and natural climate cycles — will combine over the next 20 years to make climate change faster and more furious than anticipated. In our view, there’s a good chance that we could breach the 1.5 °C level by 2030, not by 2040 as projected in the special report (see ‘Accelerated warming’). The climate-modelling community has not grappled enough with the rapid changes that policymakers care most about, preferring to focus on longer-term trends and equilibria."
>   
> Here’s the CO2 concentration updated yesterday:
>     https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/wp-content/plugins/sio-bluemoon/graphs/mlo_full_record.png
> 
> 
> Further References:
>    Fourth National Climate Assessment (NCA4), Volume I
>        https://science2017.globalchange.gov
>    Fourth National Climate Assessment (NCA4), Volume II
>        https://nca2018.globalchange.gov
>    IPCC
>       http://www.ipcc.ch
> 
>    Climate Change Indicators
>        https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/indicators.php
>        http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
>        https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/weather-climate


Climate changes are brought about by the way Jupiter affects the Earth's precession in its orbit.  The real question is not how hot is it going to get, but rather how soon we will enter the next ice age.

Double-A

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#717682

Sam
“Starting to look grim - ”
Yes. Lack of Sunspots.
Caused by Humans

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#717847

john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sam
> “Starting to look grim - ”
> Yes. Lack of Sunspots.
> Caused by Humans
> 

What do you think humans can possibly do that affects the sun??

SERIOUSLY John?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#717848

Odd
“What do you think humans can possibly do that affects the sun?? 

SERIOUSLY John? ”

Nothing.
That’s the point.

You know, Odd, you ALWAYS miss the point?
It’s some kind of reverse intelligence- might be useful in a backwards organization of some kind

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#717959

Burning hundreds of millions of years of sequestered carbon in a couple of centuries is not without its consequences.

Humans may be reversing the climate clock, by 50 million years
https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter


Incase you missed this paragraph:

All of the species on Earth today had an ancestor that survived the Eocene and the Pliocene, but whether humans and the flora and fauna we are familiar with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen. The accelerated rate of change appears to be faster than anything life on the planet has experienced before.

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html#jCp

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#718028

sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
> Burning hundreds of millions of years of sequestered carbon in a couple of centuries is not without its consequences.
> 
> Humans may be reversing the climate clock, by 50 million years
> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter
> 
> 
> Incase you missed this paragraph:
> 
> All of the species on Earth today had an ancestor that survived the Eocene and the Pliocene, but whether humans and the flora and fauna we are familiar with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen. The accelerated rate of change appears to be faster than anything life on the planet has experienced before.
> 
> Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html#jCp

A temperature rise that can only be detected with laboratory grade thermometers
and statistical analysis is not a threat to anything in the real world.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#718041

<jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>> Burning hundreds of millions of years of sequestered carbon in a couple
>> of centuries is not without its consequences.
>> 
>> Humans may be reversing the climate clock, by 50 million years
>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter
>> 
>> 
>> Incase you missed this paragraph:
>> 
>> All of the species on Earth today had an ancestor that survived the
>> Eocene and the Pliocene, but whether humans and the flora and fauna we
>> are familiar with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen.
>> The accelerated rate of change appears to be faster than anything life
>> on the planet has experienced before.
>> 
>> Read more at:
>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html#jCp
> 
> A temperature rise that can only be detected with laboratory grade thermometers
> and statistical analysis is not a threat to anything in the real world.
> 
> 

Depends on whether you’re talking about a threat to living individuals, who
will certainly die before the impact is significant, or to a species, who
may well die from the impact. 

Right now, the political argument is whether having more jobs in the next
two years is more important than having a viable civilization a hundred
years from now. It’s the “I’ll be dead by then anyway” mentality. 

To which I say: Good plan, good plan. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#718049

Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Burning hundreds of millions of years of sequestered carbon in a couple
>>> of centuries is not without its consequences.
>>> 
>>> Humans may be reversing the climate clock, by 50 million years
>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Incase you missed this paragraph:
>>> 
>>> All of the species on Earth today had an ancestor that survived the
>>> Eocene and the Pliocene, but whether humans and the flora and fauna we
>>> are familiar with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen.
>>> The accelerated rate of change appears to be faster than anything life
>>> on the planet has experienced before.
>>> 
>>> Read more at:
>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html#jCp
>> 
>> A temperature rise that can only be detected with laboratory grade thermometers
>> and statistical analysis is not a threat to anything in the real world.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Depends on whether you're talking about a threat to living individuals, who
> will certainly die before the impact is significant, or to a species, who
> may well die from the impact.

Both of which are pure speculation that the impact will ever become
significant.

<snip remainder>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#718051

<jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>> sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Burning hundreds of millions of years of sequestered carbon in a couple
>>>> of centuries is not without its consequences.
>>>> 
>>>> Humans may be reversing the climate clock, by 50 million years
>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Incase you missed this paragraph:
>>>> 
>>>> All of the species on Earth today had an ancestor that survived the
>>>> Eocene and the Pliocene, but whether humans and the flora and fauna we
>>>> are familiar with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen.
>>>> The accelerated rate of change appears to be faster than anything life
>>>> on the planet has experienced before.
>>>> 
>>>> Read more at:
>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html#jCp
>>> 
>>> A temperature rise that can only be detected with laboratory grade thermometers
>>> and statistical analysis is not a threat to anything in the real world.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Depends on whether you're talking about a threat to living individuals, who
>> will certainly die before the impact is significant, or to a species, who
>> may well die from the impact.
> 
> Both of which are pure speculation that the impact will ever become
> significant.

Well, that’s the thing about precision measurements with those fancy
thermometers you speak about, as well as long timebase records. You can
extrapolate with some pretty good precision. Kind of like knowing where
Saturn is going to be 35 years from now, in case you want to launch a probe
in that direction. 

Some people say, it’s only a sure thing on the day that it’s obvious from
my backyard thermometer. By which time of course it’s already a done deal.
Out of sight, out of mind, as they say. 

> 
> <snip remainder>
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#718084

Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>> sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Burning hundreds of millions of years of sequestered carbon in a couple
>>>>> of centuries is not without its consequences.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Humans may be reversing the climate clock, by 50 million years
>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Incase you missed this paragraph:
>>>>> 
>>>>> All of the species on Earth today had an ancestor that survived the
>>>>> Eocene and the Pliocene, but whether humans and the flora and fauna we
>>>>> are familiar with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen.
>>>>> The accelerated rate of change appears to be faster than anything life
>>>>> on the planet has experienced before.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Read more at:
>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html#jCp
>>>> 
>>>> A temperature rise that can only be detected with laboratory grade thermometers
>>>> and statistical analysis is not a threat to anything in the real world.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Depends on whether you're talking about a threat to living individuals, who
>>> will certainly die before the impact is significant, or to a species, who
>>> may well die from the impact.
>> 
>> Both of which are pure speculation that the impact will ever become
>> significant.
> 
> Well, that's the thing about precision measurements with those fancy
> thermometers you speak about, as well as long timebase records. You can
> extrapolate with some pretty good precision.

Such extrapolation has been to date far less than precise.

>Kind of like knowing where
> Saturn is going to be 35 years from now, in case you want to launch a probe
> in that direction.

Why would it take 35 years to get a probe to Saturn?

Is this the same science that speculates that tiny temperature changes
are a coming apocalypse?

<snip remainder>

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#718150

<jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>> sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Burning hundreds of millions of years of sequestered carbon in a couple
>>>>>> of centuries is not without its consequences.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Humans may be reversing the climate clock, by 50 million years
>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Incase you missed this paragraph:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All of the species on Earth today had an ancestor that survived the
>>>>>> Eocene and the Pliocene, but whether humans and the flora and fauna we
>>>>>> are familiar with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen.
>>>>>> The accelerated rate of change appears to be faster than anything life
>>>>>> on the planet has experienced before.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Read more at:
>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html#jCp
>>>>> 
>>>>> A temperature rise that can only be detected with laboratory grade thermometers
>>>>> and statistical analysis is not a threat to anything in the real world.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Depends on whether you're talking about a threat to living individuals, who
>>>> will certainly die before the impact is significant, or to a species, who
>>>> may well die from the impact.
>>> 
>>> Both of which are pure speculation that the impact will ever become
>>> significant.
>> 
>> Well, that's the thing about precision measurements with those fancy
>> thermometers you speak about, as well as long timebase records. You can
>> extrapolate with some pretty good precision.
> 
> Such extrapolation has been to date far less than precise.
> 
>> Kind of like knowing where
>> Saturn is going to be 35 years from now, in case you want to launch a probe
>> in that direction.
> 
> Why would it take 35 years to get a probe to Saturn?
> 
> Is this the same science that speculates that tiny temperature changes
> are a coming apocalypse?

Yeah, I get it. Nothing that is in a range beyond my lifetime matters.
Nothing behind the next 24 months matters. Stay in the moment. 

> 
> <snip remainder>
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#718208

On 12/13/2018 6:59 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>> sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Burning hundreds of millions of years of sequestered carbon in a couple
>>>>>>> of centuries is not without its consequences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Humans may be reversing the climate clock, by 50 million years
>>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Incase you missed this paragraph:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All of the species on Earth today had an ancestor that survived the
>>>>>>> Eocene and the Pliocene, but whether humans and the flora and fauna we
>>>>>>> are familiar with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen.
>>>>>>> The accelerated rate of change appears to be faster than anything life
>>>>>>> on the planet has experienced before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Read more at:
>>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html#jCp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A temperature rise that can only be detected with laboratory grade thermometers
>>>>>> and statistical analysis is not a threat to anything in the real world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Depends on whether you're talking about a threat to living individuals, who
>>>>> will certainly die before the impact is significant, or to a species, who
>>>>> may well die from the impact.
>>>>
>>>> Both of which are pure speculation that the impact will ever become
>>>> significant.
>>>
>>> Well, that's the thing about precision measurements with those fancy
>>> thermometers you speak about, as well as long timebase records. You can
>>> extrapolate with some pretty good precision.
>>
>> Such extrapolation has been to date far less than precise.
>>
>>> Kind of like knowing where
>>> Saturn is going to be 35 years from now, in case you want to launch a probe
>>> in that direction.
>>
>> Why would it take 35 years to get a probe to Saturn?
>>
>> Is this the same science that speculates that tiny temperature changes
>> are a coming apocalypse?
> 
> Yeah, I get it. Nothing that is in a range beyond my lifetime matters.
> Nothing behind the next 24 months matters. Stay in the moment.

Hey Boinker, are you dying of cancer? Just two years to live? Say, just 
how old a geezer are you anyway. You got Bert beat?

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#718251

Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>> Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>>>>>> sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Burning hundreds of millions of years of sequestered carbon in a couple
>>>>>>> of centuries is not without its consequences.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Humans may be reversing the climate clock, by 50 million years
>>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Incase you missed this paragraph:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All of the species on Earth today had an ancestor that survived the
>>>>>>> Eocene and the Pliocene, but whether humans and the flora and fauna we
>>>>>>> are familiar with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen.
>>>>>>> The accelerated rate of change appears to be faster than anything life
>>>>>>> on the planet has experienced before.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Read more at:
>>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html#jCp
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A temperature rise that can only be detected with laboratory grade thermometers
>>>>>> and statistical analysis is not a threat to anything in the real world.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Depends on whether you're talking about a threat to living individuals, who
>>>>> will certainly die before the impact is significant, or to a species, who
>>>>> may well die from the impact.
>>>> 
>>>> Both of which are pure speculation that the impact will ever become
>>>> significant.
>>> 
>>> Well, that's the thing about precision measurements with those fancy
>>> thermometers you speak about, as well as long timebase records. You can
>>> extrapolate with some pretty good precision.
>> 
>> Such extrapolation has been to date far less than precise.
>> 
>>> Kind of like knowing where
>>> Saturn is going to be 35 years from now, in case you want to launch a probe
>>> in that direction.
>> 
>> Why would it take 35 years to get a probe to Saturn?
>> 
>> Is this the same science that speculates that tiny temperature changes
>> are a coming apocalypse?
> 
> Yeah, I get it. Nothing that is in a range beyond my lifetime matters.
> Nothing behind the next 24 months matters. Stay in the moment. 

Nope, not at all.

What matters is observable, net negative effects.

So far no flooded cities, no massive crop failures, no pile of bodies...

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#718206

On 12/12/2018 6:01 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> sam.wormley@gmail.com wrote:
>> Burning hundreds of millions of years of sequestered carbon in a couple of centuries is not without its consequences.
>>
>> Humans may be reversing the climate clock, by 50 million years
>> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter
>>
>>
>> Incase you missed this paragraph:
>>
>> All of the species on Earth today had an ancestor that survived the Eocene and the Pliocene, but whether humans and the flora and fauna we are familiar with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen. The accelerated rate of change appears to be faster than anything life on the planet has experienced before.
>>
>> Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html#jCp
> 
> A temperature rise that can only be detected with laboratory grade thermometers
> and statistical analysis is not a threat to anything in the real world.
> 
> 
Oddly none of the climate conners seem to be able to comprehend that in 
the temperate zones that comprise much of the earth, over a year 
temperatures typically range from below zero to nearly 100 degrees F. 
Oddly all the plants and animals are just thriving while a couple of 
degree rise is touted as killing all life on the planet.

The problem seems to be Jimp that you are a toxic male patriarch who 
can't understand anything while all warmballers are sensitive artists 
who can easily become upset when temperature changes a mere fraction of 
a degree.

Say, are they paying Sam Warmly to spam groups with climate lies again?

Hey Sam, WEATHER DOES NOT EQUAL CLIMATE! OK?

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#718210

On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 1:34:59 PM UTC-8, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> Burning hundreds of millions of years of sequestered carbon in a couple of centuries is not without its consequences.
> 
> Humans may be reversing the climate clock, by 50 million years
> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html?utm_source=nwletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter
> 
> 
> Incase you missed this paragraph:
> 
> All of the species on Earth today had an ancestor that survived the Eocene and the Pliocene, but whether humans and the flora and fauna we are familiar with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen. The accelerated rate of change appears to be faster than anything life on the planet has experienced before.
> 
> Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html#jCp


No previous species had the brains to make air conditioners!  Don't worry!

Double-A

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#718228 — Robots will replace us.

> > whether humans and the flora and fauna we are familiar
> > with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen.
> > phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html
> 
> No previous species had the brains to make air conditioners!
> Don't worry!  ...

... because robots will replace us.

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#718232 — Re: Robots will replace us.

On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 2:36:21 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > whether humans and the flora and fauna we are familiar
> > > with can adapt to these rapid changes remains to be seen.
> > > phys.org/news/2018-12-humans-reversing-climate-clock-million.html
> > 
> > No previous species had the brains to make air conditioners!
> > Don't worry!  ...
> 
> ... because robots will replace us.


That too ...

Double-A

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#718351

On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 2:37:10 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote:
> On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-8, sam.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Starting to look grim - Global warming will happen faster than we think
> > https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07586-5
> > 
> > "In October, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) released a report setting out why we must stop global warming at 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels, and how to do so1. It is grim reading. If the planet warms by 2 °C — the widely touted temperature limit in the 2015 Paris climate agreement — twice as many people will face water scarcity than if warming is limited to 1.5 °C. That extra warming will also expose more than 1.5 billion people to deadly heat extremes, and hundreds of millions of individuals to vector-borne diseases such as malaria, among other harms.
> > 
> > "But the latest IPCC special report underplays another alarming fact: global warming is accelerating. Three trends — rising emissions, declining air pollution and natural climate cycles — will combine over the next 20 years to make climate change faster and more furious than anticipated. In our view, there’s a good chance that we could breach the 1.5 °C level by 2030, not by 2040 as projected in the special report (see ‘Accelerated warming’). The climate-modelling community has not grappled enough with the rapid changes that policymakers care most about, preferring to focus on longer-term trends and equilibria."
> >   
> > Here’s the CO2 concentration updated yesterday:
> >     https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/wp-content/plugins/sio-bluemoon/graphs/mlo_full_record.png
> > 
> > 
> > Further References:
> >    Fourth National Climate Assessment (NCA4), Volume I
> >        https://science2017.globalchange.gov
> >    Fourth National Climate Assessment (NCA4), Volume II
> >        https://nca2018.globalchange.gov
> >    IPCC
> >       http://www.ipcc.ch
> > 
> >    Climate Change Indicators
> >        https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/indicators.php
> >        http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
> >        https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/weather-climate
> 
> 
> Climate changes are brought about by the way Jupiter affects the Earth's precession in its orbit.  The real question is not how hot is it going to get, but rather how soon we will enter the next ice age.
> 
> Double-A

Better to be warm than cold.That is why I live in Calif.Today its sunny and nice.I can live with that Bert

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