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| Started by | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| First post | 2018-12-05 11:40 -0800 |
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Einstein never believed in the collapsar mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-05 11:40 -0800
Re: Einstein never believed in the collapsar "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-06 18:56 -0800
Re: Einstein never believed in the collapsar mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-06 19:16 -0800
Re: Einstein never believed in the collapsar Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-12-10 14:42 -0800
General Relativity doesn't explain quantum mechanics. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-12-10 14:48 -0800
Re: General Relativity doesn't explain quantum mechanics. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 22:10 -0500
Re: Einstein never believed in the collapsar Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-11 02:01 +0100
Re: Einstein never believed in the collapsar mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-10 17:14 -0800
Re: Einstein never believed in the collapsar Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-12-13 13:44 -0800
Re: Einstein never believed in the collapsar mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-13 14:28 -0800
Re: Einstein never believed in the collapsar Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-12-15 15:50 +0100
Re: Einstein never believed in the collapsar mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-15 12:32 -0800
Re: Einstein never believed in the collapsar "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 11:30 -0800
Re: Einstein never believed in the collapsar mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-12-11 14:46 -0800
Re: Einstein never believed in the collapsar "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-12-11 16:28 -0800
| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-05 11:40 -0800 |
| Subject | Einstein never believed in the collapsar |
| Message-ID | <242d164f-e105-4f9d-9543-ff4c840e856a@googlegroups.com> |
He did not believe in black holes. There are no exceptions to the exclusion principle. Atoms collapse into Neutrons stars but Neutron stars won't collapse further. No reason to believe in black holes. There are reasons not to. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-06 18:56 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <eeea7c32-c7d6-47ad-b018-26c711b98bed@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #716793 |
On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:40:29 AM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > He did not believe in black holes. > There are no exceptions to the exclusion > principle. Atoms collapse into Neutrons > stars but Neutron stars won't collapse > further. No reason to believe in black > holes. There are reasons not to. > > Mitchell Raemsch GR takes in a lot more than what Einstein used it for.Bert
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-06 19:16 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <518695b5-1d2e-4683-a64f-579e410b6843@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717039 |
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 6:56:36 PM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote: > On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:40:29 AM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > He did not believe in black holes. > > There are no exceptions to the exclusion > > principle. Atoms collapse into Neutrons > > stars but Neutron stars won't collapse > > further. No reason to believe in black > > holes. There are reasons not to. > > > > Mitchell Raemsch > > GR takes in a lot more than what Einstein used it for.Bert It's gravity curve curves motion. It does not slow a light bubble leaving. The atom motion curves by space curve... it just the same for light... don't believe Roy Masters. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-10 14:42 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <7c4e847d-9ac5-4c77-9f49-2e39b979b6dd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #716793 |
On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:40:29 AM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > He did not believe in black holes. > There are no exceptions to the exclusion > principle. Atoms collapse into Neutrons > stars but Neutron stars won't collapse > further. No reason to believe in black > holes. There are reasons not to. > > Mitchell Raemsch Whether something is a black hole does not depend on how compressed it can get. The black hole at the center of a galaxy could be nothing more than a tightly grouped bunch of individual stars. Don't believe me? Do the math! Double-A
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-12-10 14:48 -0800 |
| Subject | General Relativity doesn't explain quantum mechanics. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.10--2.48pm.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #717606 |
> > No reason to believe in black holes. There are reasons not to. Amen to that; black holes are "science" FICTION. > > Atoms collapse into Neutrons stars > > but Neutron stars won't collapse further. > > The black hole at the center of a galaxy could be nothing more than > a tightly grouped bunch of individual stars. Don't believe me? > Do the math! General Relativity doesn't explain quantum mechanics.
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-10 22:10 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: General Relativity doesn't explain quantum mechanics. |
| Message-ID | <pun9qj$1vrd$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #717609 |
On 12/10/2018 5:48 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>> No reason to believe in black holes. There are reasons not to. > > Amen to that; black holes are "science" FICTION. > >>> Atoms collapse into Neutrons stars >>> but Neutron stars won't collapse further. >> >> The black hole at the center of a galaxy could be nothing more than >> a tightly grouped bunch of individual stars. Don't believe me? >> Do the math! > > General Relativity doesn't explain quantum mechanics. > That's OK Rolf. QM doesn't explain General Relativity either.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-12-11 02:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bc43ada3-d2ad-2413-6fc5-5e094674c066@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #717606 |
Double-A wrote: > Whether something is a black hole does not depend on how compressed it can get. But it does. > The black hole at the center of a galaxy could be nothing more than a tightly > grouped bunch of individual stars. Don't believe me? Do the math! BTDT. Your turn. (Are you even able to?) <https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1825/> IOW: The matter is settled since July 2018. There *is* a black hole in the center of the Milky Way. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-10 17:14 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <19cea111-72ad-42ce-92ec-3ce66f3493da@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717616 |
On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:01:20 PM UTC-8, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Double-A wrote: > > Whether something is a black hole does not depend on how compressed it can get. > > But it does. > > > The black hole at the center of a galaxy could be nothing more than a tightly > > grouped bunch of individual stars. Don't believe me? Do the math! > > BTDT. Your turn. (Are you even able to?) > > <https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1825/> > > IOW: The matter is settled since July 2018. There *is* a black hole in the > center of the Milky Way. > > -- > PointedEars > > Twitter: @PointedEars2 > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. Light's motion curve under gravity is parabolic... Sobral; Shapiro Light does not obey any escape velocity because of its constant speed. If it slowed like matter it would obey escape velocity; but it doesn't. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-13 13:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6cc81167-99c9-4575-ac8d-7bc4d584c256@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717616 |
On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:01:20 PM UTC-8, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Double-A wrote: > > Whether something is a black hole does not depend on how compressed it can get. > > But it does. > > > The black hole at the center of a galaxy could be nothing more than a tightly > > grouped bunch of individual stars. Don't believe me? Do the math! > > BTDT. Your turn. (Are you even able to?) > > <https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1825/> > > IOW: The matter is settled since July 2018. There *is* a black hole in the > center of the Milky Way. > > -- > PointedEars > > Twitter: @PointedEars2 > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. The density of a massive black hole can be very small. https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-minimum-density-of-a-black-hole Double-A
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-13 14:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <7f84606c-b677-41ac-9dd3-c11e93cee6c4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #718220 |
On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 2:04:24 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote: > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:01:20 PM UTC-8, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > Double-A wrote: > > > Whether something is a black hole does not depend on how compressed it can get. > > > > But it does. > > > > > The black hole at the center of a galaxy could be nothing more than a tightly > > > grouped bunch of individual stars. Don't believe me? Do the math! > > > > BTDT. Your turn. (Are you even able to?) > > > > <https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1825/> > > > > IOW: The matter is settled since July 2018. There *is* a black hole in the > > center of the Milky Way. > > > > -- > > PointedEars > > > > Twitter: @PointedEars2 > > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. > > > The density of a massive black hole can be very small. Fall reaches light speed forming a singularity. That is the size of density of all BH. It doesn't matter if it can't be seen you still use the same theory inside. Mitchell Raemsch > > https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-minimum-density-of-a-black-hole > > Double-A
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-12-15 15:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <f7782d90-29ad-6564-85bb-3dce84a24b1a@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #718220 |
Double-A wrote: > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:01:20 PM UTC-8, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> Double-A wrote: >>> Whether something is a black hole does not depend on how compressed it can get. >> But it does. >> >>> The black hole at the center of a galaxy could be nothing more than a tightly >>> grouped bunch of individual stars. Don't believe me? Do the math! >> >> BTDT. Your turn. (Are you even able to?) >> >> <https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1825/> >> >> IOW: The matter is settled since July 2018. There *is* a black hole in the >> center of the Milky Way. > > The density of a massive black hole can be very small. Red herring. > https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-minimum-density-of-a-black-hole Note that the answer that you are probably referring to there (you are not actually saying what statement you are referring to, so this does NOT amount to evidence, let alone a calculation done by *you*, and a calculation *on the contentious subject*) was posted by “Rick McGeer, Serious researcher in many CS topics, and I play around with Physics”. -- PointedEars Twitter: @PointedEars2 Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-15 12:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d33b1ef9-e3ac-4af1-b0e6-4d23df05f0e1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #718548 |
On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 6:50:46 AM UTC-8, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Double-A wrote: > > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 5:01:20 PM UTC-8, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > >> Double-A wrote: > >>> Whether something is a black hole does not depend on how compressed it can get. > >> But it does. > >> > >>> The black hole at the center of a galaxy could be nothing more than a tightly > >>> grouped bunch of individual stars. Don't believe me? Do the math! > >> > >> BTDT. Your turn. (Are you even able to?) > >> > >> <https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1825/> > >> > >> IOW: The matter is settled since July 2018. There *is* a black hole in the > >> center of the Milky Way. > > > > The density of a massive black hole can be very small. > > Red herring. > > > https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-minimum-density-of-a-black-hole > > Note that the answer that you are probably referring to there (you are not > actually saying what statement you are referring to, so this does NOT amount > to evidence, let alone a calculation done by *you*, and a calculation *on > the contentious subject*) was posted by “Rick McGeer, Serious researcher in > many CS topics, and I play around with Physics”. > > -- > PointedEars > > Twitter: @PointedEars2 > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. If there is drop off gravity for the Earth's inside it would apply to a black hole. So there is zero gravity and at the same time infinite gravity inside the black hole...? Science is a liar to its own self and to the world. By the way Original GR didn't have inner drop off. Einstein said it was equal gravity strength to center... Richard Feynman monkeyed with it... His mistake. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-11 11:30 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <fd4452cc-1385-46c2-a824-2b4f977bc9c2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717606 |
On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 2:42:31 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote: > On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:40:29 AM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > He did not believe in black holes. > > There are no exceptions to the exclusion > > principle. Atoms collapse into Neutrons > > stars but Neutron stars won't collapse > > further. No reason to believe in black > > holes. There are reasons not to. > > > > Mitchell Raemsch > > > Whether something is a black hole does not depend on how compressed it can get. The black hole at the center of a galaxy could be nothing more than a tightly grouped bunch of individual stars. Don't believe me? Do the math! > > Double-A Milky Way core could be a285,000 stars orbiting each 5 times the mass density of the Sun taking up a system half a light year across.Why not.It would make a very bright area,and so it is.Bert
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| From | mitchrae3323@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-12-11 14:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5d63198a-217c-40b7-a755-d5d127ca0e8b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #717716 |
On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 11:30:34 AM UTC-8, reber G=emc^2 wrote: > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 2:42:31 PM UTC-8, Double-A wrote: > > On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:40:29 AM UTC-8, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > > > He did not believe in black holes. > > > There are no exceptions to the exclusion > > > principle. Atoms collapse into Neutrons > > > stars but Neutron stars won't collapse > > > further. No reason to believe in black > > > holes. There are reasons not to. > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch > > > > > > Whether something is a black hole does not depend on how compressed it can get. The black hole at the center of a galaxy could be nothing more than a tightly grouped bunch of individual stars. Don't believe me? Do the math! > > > > Double-A > Milky Way core could be a285,000 stars orbiting each 5 times the mass density of the Sun taking up a system half a light year across.Why not.It would make a very bright area,and so it is.Bert No. The small core luminosity is not happening. The core of galactic gravity is supposed to be black hole. Why isn't the core of Andromeda as bright as you would imply? Looking into our Milky Way toward the core there is obviously more stars by density for your luminosity instead... not the actual core. Mitchell Raemsch
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2018-12-11 16:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <pupkn2$ato$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #717716 |
"homo-reber G=emc^2" <herbertgay-lazier0@gmail.com> is not only a self-righteous Jewish moron, Bert is sanctimonious and phony, and posts anything to draw attention to SwineBert's ONLY achievement, namely to shit into other posters mouth, have them murdered for him to be able to piss onto their graves, as <http://tinyurl.com/The-Chosen-Graveyard-Vandal> who is characterized by the eminent Jewish scholars HWR in the epic <http://tinyurl.com/The-HW-Rosenthal-interview-XT>, that shows <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier-s-REAL-intent>, O ya. Bert.
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