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| Started by | Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> |
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| First post | 2015-08-04 00:39 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-08-05 06:54 -0400 |
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I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 00:39 -0700
Start Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 08:26 -0700
Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 17:07 +0000
Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:22 -0500
Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 14:31 -0500
You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 12:39 -0700
Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 14:53 -0500
Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 14:46 -0700
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 17:08 -0500
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:13 +0000
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:42 -0500
Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 15:11 -0700
Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:15 -0700
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-05 07:56 -0400
"The Bachelor" (on the TV show) is a prissy bottom. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 10:45 -0700
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:06 +0000
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:13 -0400
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:31 +0000
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:06 -0400
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 17:26 +0200
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:29 -0400
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 15:42 +0000
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:00 -0400
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 16:11 +0000
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:37 -0400
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 18:51 +0200
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:59 -0400
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 19:04 +0200
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 17:48 +0000
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 20:07 +0200
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:09 +0000
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:26 -0400
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:30 +0000
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 12:44 -0700
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:50 -0400
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-05 15:47 -0700
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 14:14 -0500
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:21 -0500
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:28 -0500
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:33 +0000
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:40 -0500
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:55 -0400
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:28 +0000
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:37 -0500
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 07:01 -0400
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:33 +0000
What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dali used both. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 11:17 -0700
Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dali used both. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:31 -0400
Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dali used both. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:45 +0000
Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dali used both. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:35 +0000
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:21 -0500
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 17:02 +0200
Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:26 -0400
Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:20 +0000
Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> - 2015-08-04 15:46 -0700
Show us your source code. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:26 -0700
Show us your source code. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:29 -0700
Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> - 2015-08-04 15:40 -0700
Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-04 22:59 +0000
Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 23:00 +0000
Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:45 -0500
Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 01:38 -0400
Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 13:46 -0400
Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 11:31 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-04 13:54 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:16 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:26 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-04 21:35 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:50 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:57 -0400
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-04 21:38 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 23:36 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:48 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:53 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:08 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 17:28 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:47 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:06 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:52 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 00:22 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 07:50 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 11:45 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 17:10 -0500
Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 15:21 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:37 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:56 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-05 08:11 -0400
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:09 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:24 -0400
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:09 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:03 -0400
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:10 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:22 -0400
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:30 -0400
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:34 -0500
Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 11:03 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 04:18 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-06 17:48 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 07:59 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 08:42 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 17:35 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 13:57 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 19:44 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 15:03 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 20:23 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 15:45 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 21:05 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 16:38 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-07 16:04 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 13:59 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 14:00 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 18:19 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-07 16:46 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 18:17 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-08 01:01 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-07 19:03 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 03:38 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 21:05 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 13:51 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:56 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:32 -0400
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:07 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Apollyon <adravirgo@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:11 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:05 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:16 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:45 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 16:52 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 22:26 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 01:24 -0400
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 05:43 -0400
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 07:43 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 10:10 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:30 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:05 -0400
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:50 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:00 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:00 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "Buck Futter" <invalid@example.com> - 2015-08-05 22:35 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 01:50 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 04:18 -0500
I'm watching you right now. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 14:19 -0700
Re: I'm watching you right now. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 16:36 -0500
Re: I'm watching you right now. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-04 17:16 -0700
Ubuntu Spyware: What to do? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:41 -0700
Re: Ubuntu Spyware: What to do? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-06 12:29 -0700
Re: I'm watching you right now. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 03:47 +0000
Re: I'm watching you right now. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:11 -0500
Re: I'm watching you right now. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 21:22 +0000
Re: I'm watching you right now. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-06 00:53 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:55 -0500
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 21:30 +0000
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "Mahipal" <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 17:44 -0700
Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:01 -0700
Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-04 14:34 -0500
Indirectly, you (chrisv) see my posts. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 12:46 -0700
Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 06:54 -0400
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 14:40 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. |
| Message-ID | <mJKdnVuZZ4Na-1_InZ2dnUU7-VudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #511446 |
On 8/5/15 2:33 PM, Fabian Russell wrote: > On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:28:29 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> >> Ah ha -- the truth comes out -- to hard for you! >> > > Fuck you, idiot. You fail to grasp any kind of rational elaboration > that goes beyond two sentences. > > Incidentally, the correct spelling is "too" and not "to." > > Nevertheless, the truth comes out -- too hard for you! Nice attempt to avoid the truth. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 15:55 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. |
| Message-ID | <mptpk1$t82$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #511449 |
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mJKdnVuZZ4Na-1_InZ2dnUU7-VudnZ2d@giganews.com... > On 8/5/15 2:33 PM, Fabian Russell wrote: >> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:28:29 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote: >> >>> >>> Ah ha -- the truth comes out -- to hard for you! >>> >> >> Fuck you, idiot. You fail to grasp any kind of rational elaboration >> that goes beyond two sentences. >> >> Incidentally, the correct spelling is "too" and not "to." >> >> > > > Nevertheless, the truth comes out -- too hard for you! Nice attempt > to avoid the truth. > He's some senile old fool that's stuck living in the past. Poor Fabian is too stupid to learn new tools and techniques. So he's stuck in some dead-end job using the same tools that people used back in the 1970's and 80's. I bet that his Betamax player is soooo much better than a modern Tivo. The world has passed him by. Some are able to adapt. Others become extinct. -- "Coding in C#, or any other object oriented language, is *not* programming. It is only arranging predetermined classes like a child will arrange toy blocks." Some idiot named Fabian Russell 5 Aug 2015 <pan.2015.08.05.14.06.13@localhost.localdomain>
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 20:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.08.05.20.28.01@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #511459 |
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:55:14 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: > > Poor Fabian is too stupid to learn new tools and techniques. So he's stuck > in some dead-end job using the same tools that people used back in the > 1970's and 80's. > I would hardly call cache hit/miss management, pipelining, and parallelism vestiges of the 1980's. In fact assembly language programming for full utilization of the processor potential, and especially concerning SSE/AVX parallelism, is vastly more difficult to master that cheap OO coding. But Ezekiel is brainwashed. He has been conditioned to believe that machine language is passe when it actually is at the forefront and the bleeding edge. Try it sometime.
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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 15:37 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. |
| Message-ID | <mpts5f$h8h$3@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #511466 |
On 8/5/2015 3:28 PM, Fabian Russell wrote: > On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:55:14 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: > >> >> Poor Fabian is too stupid to learn new tools and techniques. So he's stuck >> in some dead-end job using the same tools that people used back in the >> 1970's and 80's. >> > > I would hardly call cache hit/miss management, pipelining, and > parallelism vestiges of the 1980's. In fact assembly language > programming for full utilization of the processor potential, > and especially concerning SSE/AVX parallelism, is vastly more > difficult to master that cheap OO coding. > > But Ezekiel is brainwashed. He has been conditioned to believe > that machine language is passe when it actually is at the forefront > and the bleeding edge. > > Try it sometime. > I find it fascinating when someone like you says, "What I do is the only worthwhile thing in the world to do, and everything that others do is inferior." Points to a small-penis-complex issue. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 07:01 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. |
| Message-ID | <mpveo0$69a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #511469 |
On 8/5/2015 4:37 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> But Ezekiel is brainwashed. He has been conditioned to believe >> that machine language is passe when it actually is at the forefront >> and the bleeding edge. >> >> Try it sometime. >> > > I find it fascinating when someone like you says, "What I do is the only > worthwhile thing in the world to do, and everything that others do is > inferior." Points to a small-penis-complex issue. I love the smell of a good insult in the morning! -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 20:33 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.08.05.20.33.30@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #511449 |
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:40:55 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote: > > Nevertheless, the truth comes out -- too hard for you! > Nice attempt to avoid the truth. > Even a retarded girl scout could see through your feeble attempts at baiting. I am not going to dignify your asinine intellect with any response.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 11:17 -0700 |
| Subject | What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dali used both. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.5{11.17A.Seattle.2015}> |
| In reply to | #511378 |
Replying to Ezekiel, Melzzz wrote: > > In your world, idiots who keep re-inventing the wheel, > > by writing more string classes, more collection classes, etc. > > are "real programmers." > > > > But the developers who write Libre Office, GIMP, etc > > are not "real programmers" because they're only "arranging > > predetermined classes like a child will arrange toy blocks." > > > > Like I said before. You're a clueless idiot. Plain and simple. > > Actually he is not. I know at least one C# programmer who is not > capable to grasp algorithm if there is no handy class around. > > So actually if there is trivial solution to problem, such programmer > would rather use some complex class, which does same thing, but with > bloat, simply because he is not capable to come with algorithm. What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dalí used both. My extensions to Visual Studio 2015 are written in C#. Were I to write an extension for FireFox, I'd use JavaScript. Most of my code is Visual C++ but, mostly, it looks like C.
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 14:31 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dali used both. |
| Message-ID | <mptkm3$8mb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #511423 |
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message
news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.5{11.17A.Seattle.2015}...
> Replying to Ezekiel, Melzzz wrote:
>> > In your world, idiots who keep re-inventing the wheel,
>> > by writing more string classes, more collection classes, etc.
>> > are "real programmers."
>> >
>> > But the developers who write Libre Office, GIMP, etc
>> > are not "real programmers" because they're only "arranging
>> > predetermined classes like a child will arrange toy blocks."
>> >
>> > Like I said before. You're a clueless idiot. Plain and simple.
>>
>> Actually he is not. I know at least one C# programmer who is not
>> capable to grasp algorithm if there is no handy class around.
>>
>> So actually if there is trivial solution to problem, such programmer
>> would rather use some complex class, which does same thing, but with
>> bloat, simply because he is not capable to come with algorithm.
>
> What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dalí used both.
>
> My extensions to Visual Studio 2015 are written in C#.
> Were I to write an extension for FireFox, I'd use JavaScript.
> Most of my code is Visual C++ but, mostly, it looks like C.
The "language" used is rarely an issue. Unless there's some restriction that
VS extensions have to be in C# (or another managed language) or that Emacs
extensions have to be in Lisp, etc.
The work of programming/software development is being able to understand the
problem and to then figuring out a way to solve the problem. Once the
solution is figured out and known - the actual language used to implement
the solution isn't that big of a deal in most cases.
--
Advocate Claim: "(iOS) is A POS that needs over 8 GB of RAM."
Advocate Proof: "iPhone is available in 8GB and 16GB models at Apple Retail
Stores, AT&T Stores or online from AT&T."
A Linux "advocate" that's too stupid to know the difference between RAM and
storage.
Message-ID: <gprqmf$f87$1@news.albasani.net>
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 19:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dali used both. |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.08.05.19.45.27@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #511428 |
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:31:00 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: > > The work of programming/software development is being able to understand the > problem and to then figuring out a way to solve the problem. Once the > solution is figured out and known - the actual language used to implement > the solution isn't that big of a deal in most cases. > Well, now you are starting to make good sense. But it is all moot. Try presenting this argument to the average employer and it will fail miserably. The truth is that any programming language can be sufficiently mastered for most purposes in a very short time, but very few employers realize this truth. For them, problem analysis is secondary, if even that, to demonstrable experience in a specific language.
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 19:35 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dali used both. |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.08.05.19.35.16@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #511423 |
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 11:17:43 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > > > Most of my code is Visual C++ but, mostly, it looks like C. > To the CPU it looks like the outlandish scrawling of a demented idiot, a.k.a. typical modern programmer.
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| From | Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 09:21 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. |
| Message-ID | <mJKdnSaZZ4OagV_InZ2dnUU7-Vti4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #511356 |
On 8/5/15 9:06 AM, Fabian Russell wrote: > Real men use C or assembly. Or Pascal or Swift. -- sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of physics, news from the physics community, and physics-related social issues.
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| From | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 17:02 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. |
| Message-ID | <20150805170241.3a832cc5@maxa-pc> |
| In reply to | #511361 |
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:21:59 -0500 Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > On 8/5/15 9:06 AM, Fabian Russell wrote: > > Real men use C or assembly. > > Or Pascal or Swift. > > > Or PHP or JavaScript...
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 11:26 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. |
| Message-ID | <mpt9sl$qvc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #511371 |
"Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message news:20150805170241.3a832cc5@maxa-pc... > On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:21:59 -0500 > Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 8/5/15 9:06 AM, Fabian Russell wrote: >> > Real men use C or assembly. >> >> Or Pascal or Swift. >> >> >> > > Or PHP or JavaScript... A few years back a friend of mine wrote a web-server in bash. A bit odd and unconventional but it was certainly creative, took some problem solving skills and got him a job with ITA software (which is now owned by Google). ITA Software used to have a "programming challenge" on their website. Interested in a development job... solve one of the programming challenges, email your code/solution and maybe you'll get an interview. His web server written in bash was certainly different and interesting enough to get him in the door. It takes a lot more clever thinking and problem solving to write a web server in bash than it does to write yet another string class. -- "Microsoft Executives deposed in sworn testimony before Courts, in 2005, and in *every* quarterly SEC filing, that Linux users made up over 17% of all Internet users with a growth rate of >3% per annum." Dumb Willy Poaster - repeating the same LIE for YEARS. 08 May 2008 <pan.2008.05.08.14.38.50.828910@leafnode.amd64.eu> 19 Jul 2009 <ibjbj6-l27.ln1@jaunty64bit.unbuntulinux.org> 26 Jan 2010 <pan.2010.01.26.12.12.13.492643@mandriva2010.org>
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-08-04 21:20 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.08.04.21.20.55@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #511212 |
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 12:39:04 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > > My C# macros, to automate Visual Studio 2015: > > Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM > No one cares about your VS macros. This is a *physics* group. So how do you use your Windows machine in support of physics? What kind of scientific plotting/graphics software do you have installed? What kind of computer algebra and/or numerical simulation packages do you employ? Tell us about using Microsoft Windows for physics.
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| From | Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-04 15:46 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. |
| Message-ID | <27913613-005d-4103-8be2-12d1435732bf@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511212 |
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 2:39:07 PM UTC-5, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > gilber34 wrote: > You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it; > in fact, they often do so. Case in point: > > My C# macros, to automate Visual Studio 2015: Well OK, there's an idea. I'm in the middle of rewriting AlgLib ... now down to 150,000 lines from where it was before I got a hold of it (300,000+ lines). Wait till I finish crunching down LaPack (all 750,000 lines of it). I just finished crunching down AutoMath yesterday (from 5000 lines to beautifully-laid out 1000 lines) and am in the middle of completely redoing CFront, Indent, Bison, Flex, BYacc/J, VLC, Audacity, DarkWave, having just finally wrapping up a 2-way spectrograph <-> sound convertor. On UNIX with GCC.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> |
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| Date | 2015-08-04 17:26 -0700 |
| Subject | Show us your source code. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{5.26P.Seattle.2015}> |
| In reply to | #511272 |
<PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A !important;'><big><big> Rock_Brentwood: > You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it; > in fact, they often do so. Case in point: > > My C# macros, to automate Visual Studio 2015: > Well OK, there's an idea. I'm in the middle of > rewriting AlgLib ... now down to 150,000 lines from > where it was before I got a hold of it (300,000+ > lines). Wait till I finish crunching down LaPack (all > 750,000 lines of it). I just finished crunching down > AutoMath yesterday (from 5000 lines to > beautifully-laid out 1000 lines) and am in the middle > of completely redoing CFront, Indent, Bison, Flex, > BYacc/J, VLC, Audacity, DarkWave, having just finally > wrapping up a 2-way spectrograph <-> sound convertor. > > On UNIX with GCC. Prove it. Show us your source code. Here's a sample of my source code: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> |
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| Date | 2015-08-04 17:29 -0700 |
| Subject | Show us your source code. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{5.29P.Seattle.2015}> |
| In reply to | #511272 |
<PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A !important;'><big><big> You (Rock_Brentwood) replied (to me): > > You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it; > > in fact, they often do so. Case in point: > > > > My C# macros, to automate Visual Studio 2015: > > > > Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM > > Well OK, there's an idea. I'm in the middle of > rewriting AlgLib ... now down to 150,000 lines from > where it was before I got a hold of it (300,000+ > lines). Wait till I finish crunching down LaPack (all > 750,000 lines of it). I just finished crunching down > AutoMath yesterday (from 5000 lines to > beautifully-laid out 1000 lines) and am in the middle > of completely redoing CFront, Indent, Bison, Flex, > BYacc/J, VLC, Audacity, DarkWave, having just finally > wrapping up a 2-way spectrograph <-> sound convertor. > > On UNIX with GCC. Prove it. Show us your source code. Here's a sample of my source code: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP
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| From | Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-04 15:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <61253e34-ea40-494a-8e82-5b5db10b7ed2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #511208 |
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 2:31:13 PM UTC-5, gilber34 wrote: > On 8/4/2015 12:22 PM, Sam Wormley wrote: > > On 8/4/15 12:07 PM, Fabian Russell wrote: > >> The Start Menu was specifically created by Microsoft, at great expense, > >> to accommodate mental retards. > > > > Is that so... > > > > Microsoft is composed of 3rd world mental retards doing contract work, > everyone has known that for years. > > There are vast areas of code in Win8 and Win10 that no one knows how it > works, because the turnover rate of Microsoft software people is in the > 60% to 75% range. I've had Windows crash on my present machine in April, February; in 2014 in October, February; in 2013 in December; on a previous machine in February 2014; on an earlier machine in 2013; several other times on other machines. At a certain point the pattern finally becomes clear ... so that at last I finally remove the problem by removing its cause -- Windows. Now suddenly all those old programming projects and other items on my to do list are finally getting done (on UNIX) where *real* programmers, *real* programs & source code, *real* program libraries can be found in plenitude along with all the tools needed to make your own. None of this mediocrity-ware for Middle America and Point and Click End-User Widget nonsense. Just look at all the stuff on my G++. Try to get PhotoShop (or video editors) to do any of that. Microsoft is like the Sears or McDonalds of the computer world and any who continue to stick to it date themselves almost as badly as making regular use of the USENET does.
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| From | R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-04 22:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mprg50$1re$1@odin.sdf-eu.org> |
| In reply to | #511271 |
Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> wrote: ... > Microsoft is like the Sears or McDonalds of the computer world and any who continue to stick to it date themselves almost as badly as making regular use of the USENET does. And here I was thinking USENET predated Windows by 10-20 years. Must be my poor old mind playing tricks on me again. -- USENET gives you the ability to be a total turd with no repercussions other than being called the ass hole that you are. -- Jim Pennino <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com>, 7/22/15 1:33 PM
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-08-04 23:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.08.04.23.00.44@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #511271 |
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:40:36 -0700, Rock Brentwood wrote: > > Microsoft is like the Sears or McDonalds of the computer world > Don't say "Sears." Sears is a very good retailer with very good stuff. Microsoft, however, will soon be like the "rent to own" business where the user will end up paying, in the long term, thousands of dollars for software that is only worth less than a hundred.
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