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| First post | 2016-06-27 23:15 -0500 |
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Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-27 23:15 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-28 14:12 -0400
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-28 13:58 -0700
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-06-28 19:42 -0400
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 01:14 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-06-28 23:45 -0700
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 10:31 -0700
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-29 14:48 -0400
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-28 18:23 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-29 14:15 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-06-30 18:13 -0400
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 20:40 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 01:50 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-30 21:20 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 05:57 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 11:22 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 16:34 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:19 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 17:39 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 13:02 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 18:58 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:23 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:38 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:10 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:32 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:11 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 17:33 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 09:18 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:10 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:25 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 17:44 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 12:57 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:03 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:33 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 14:41 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 14:55 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:15 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:19 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:33 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:02 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 21:19 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:47 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:42 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:11 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:26 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 19:41 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:04 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:27 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:35 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 09:16 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:41 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:52 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:38 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 20:12 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 15:37 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:54 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 16:03 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:34 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:03 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 17:23 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:46 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:19 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:27 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 19:43 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:05 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:32 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 09:23 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:08 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 11:53 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 12:26 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:43 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 13:45 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:49 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 22:57 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-01 17:25 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 18:01 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:32 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:03 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:39 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 09:35 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:54 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:03 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:43 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 19:58 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 01:12 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 23:20 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 06:00 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-03 09:45 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 17:04 +0000
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:44 -0500
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die; sick or not, Swiss or not. ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 21:38 -0500
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-02 19:00 -0400
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 23:24 +0000
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 16:36 -0700
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-07-02 19:59 -0400
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 17:06 -0700
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-07-02 21:08 -0600
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-07-02 20:32 -0700
Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-07-03 14:58 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 19:55 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:16 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 20:37 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 15:59 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 21:21 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 16:45 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 22:12 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 17:36 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:38 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-01 20:16 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:41 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 10:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 17:55 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:46 -0700
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 17:07 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-03 00:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 22:44 +0000
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 20:05 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-02 14:10 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-02 16:41 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-07-03 00:16 -0500
Re: Quinine no good for leg cramps scintillators ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-07-03 10:33 -0500
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 05:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ll0k4d-nrc.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587601 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:32:22 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:25:58 -0500, Sergio wrote: >>> >>>> On 7/1/2016 4:34 PM, ClutterFreak wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:03:05 -0500, Sergio wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> its different today, even in states that have it outlawed. >>>>>> I've watched 2, and know of 2 others. >>>>>> it is between a patient and his/her Dr. >>>>>> and Drs don't want patients to suffer any pain. >>>>>> curarie not used in the end game. >>>>> >>>>> If morphine was a better way to go why Robin Williams >>>>> chose asphyxiation? He could sure put his hands on >>>>> enough morphine to do the job. >>>>> >>>> >>>> suicide is not rational, >>> >>> So you're saying he wouldn't prefer an easier way to >>> go? He probably knew a lot about morphine and could >>> arrange it. >> >> Or sleeping pills, or heroin or cocain or... >> > > No you don't know enough about it. I know what common things are lethal and easy to get, which does not include curare. >> <snip silly babble> >> >>> Back to curare vs morphine. Why didn't Williams use >>> morphine? >> >> Why didn't he OD on a lot of things he could have eaisly ODed on? >> > > He must've researched and found out asphyxiation is > the easiest and least painful. Asphyxiation is a horrible way to die especially when compared to simply falling asleep and never waking up, idiot. >>> I think probably the fear of curare as the >>> ideal suicide drug is keeping the doctors away from >>> dispensing it or having anything to do with it. >> >> Silly nonsense. >> >> The ideal suicide drug would be a major OD of just about any narcotic. >> > > No! As I said you don't know about it. Watch videos of > those in youtube who have survived suicide attempts. > For about one year I was interested about bipolars and > watched many many videos from them (youtube is an > excellent source for information on bipolars). OD is a > horrible way to go. Then they find you and drag you > out of it by force and you come back a totally fucked > up man. My neighbor's niece's husband and his brother > both OD'd together on heroin, one died one survived > although they had done everything to be successful. It > is chancy, leaves a wide margin you'd be found and > rescued. Not if you live alone and take enough; happens every day. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 09:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <6dc1xj29bzpb.fox2rqtxd04d.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587630 |
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:39:33 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> Or sleeping pills, or heroin or cocain or... >>> >> >> No you don't know enough about it. > > I know what common things are lethal and easy to get, which does not > include curare. > Anything can be lethal. Why didn't you mention alcohol? Alcohol is lethal in large doses. But it is, like others you mentioned, not the best way to go. Very nasty indeed. >> >> He must've researched and found out asphyxiation is >> the easiest and least painful. > > Asphyxiation is a horrible way to die especially when compared to > simply falling asleep and never waking up, idiot. > I don't know, my claim is based on observation only. He was an intelligent man (above average for sure). I know he had delusions and was diagnosed with brain disease, but I'm pretty sure he did it with planning and purpose. He had money and means to extend his life as long as his brain disease would let him, but he'd decided against it. He chose asphyxiation over OD. OD must be very bad cause Kurt Cobain had tried it and still chose gun. When he died he had enough narcotics in his blood to kill him five times over, but when dying time came it was bad enough to make him use the gun. These are solid facts. You can't just dismiss them. Williams had access to all sorts of narcotics. But he probably knew enough about them not to go that way. >>>> I think probably the fear of curare as the >>>> ideal suicide drug is keeping the doctors away from >>>> dispensing it or having anything to do with it. >>> >>> Silly nonsense. >>> >>> The ideal suicide drug would be a major OD of just about any narcotic. >>> >> >> No! As I said you don't know about it. Watch videos of >> those in youtube who have survived suicide attempts. >> For about one year I was interested about bipolars and >> watched many many videos from them (youtube is an >> excellent source for information on bipolars). OD is a >> horrible way to go. Then they find you and drag you >> out of it by force and you come back a totally fucked >> up man. My neighbor's niece's husband and his brother >> both OD'd together on heroin, one died one survived >> although they had done everything to be successful. It >> is chancy, leaves a wide margin you'd be found and >> rescued. > > Not if you live alone and take enough; happens every day. > Those who actually die by OD don't intend to die. They do it in strange places and that kills them (body doesn't know what's coming). Narcotics are not the easiest way to leave life according to those who tried. It just seems to be the "politically correct way" to leave life. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 17:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nnbl4d-5ch.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
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ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:39:33 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>>> Or sleeping pills, or heroin or cocain or... >>>> >>> >>> No you don't know enough about it. >> >> I know what common things are lethal and easy to get, which does not >> include curare. >> > > Anything can be lethal. Why didn't you mention > alcohol? Alcohol is lethal in large doses. But it is, > like others you mentioned, not the best way to go. > Very nasty indeed. Sure even water is lethal if you drink too much, but irrelvant to the point of easy and painless suicide. >>> >>> He must've researched and found out asphyxiation is >>> the easiest and least painful. >> >> Asphyxiation is a horrible way to die especially when compared to >> simply falling asleep and never waking up, idiot. >> > > I don't know, my claim is based on observation only. How many deaths have you observed? > He was an intelligent man (above average for sure). I > know he had delusions and was diagnosed with brain > disease, but I'm pretty sure he did it with planning > and purpose. He had money and means to extend his life > as long as his brain disease would let him, but he'd > decided against it. > > He chose asphyxiation over OD. OD must be very bad > cause Kurt Cobain had tried it and still chose gun. > When he died he had enough narcotics in his blood to > kill him five times over, but when dying time came it > was bad enough to make him use the gun. These are > solid facts. You can't just dismiss them. > > Williams had access to all sorts of narcotics. But he > probably knew enough about them not to go that way. > > >>>>> I think probably the fear of curare as the >>>>> ideal suicide drug is keeping the doctors away from >>>>> dispensing it or having anything to do with it. >>>> >>>> Silly nonsense. >>>> >>>> The ideal suicide drug would be a major OD of just about any narcotic. >>>> >>> >>> No! As I said you don't know about it. Watch videos of >>> those in youtube who have survived suicide attempts. >>> For about one year I was interested about bipolars and >>> watched many many videos from them (youtube is an >>> excellent source for information on bipolars). OD is a >>> horrible way to go. Then they find you and drag you >>> out of it by force and you come back a totally fucked >>> up man. My neighbor's niece's husband and his brother >>> both OD'd together on heroin, one died one survived >>> although they had done everything to be successful. It >>> is chancy, leaves a wide margin you'd be found and >>> rescued. >> >> Not if you live alone and take enough; happens every day. >> > > Those who actually die by OD don't intend to die. Nonsense. 15.9% of suicides are from poisioning, i.e. OD on something. 26.7% are suffocation, i.e. hanging. Statistics indicate that roughly 12 people harm themselves for every reported death by suicide. > do it in strange places and that kills them (body > doesn't know what's coming). Narcotics are not the > easiest way to leave life according to those who > tried. It just seems to be the "politically correct > way" to leave life. Almost right, 49.9% of suicides are by firearm, which is seldom survivable. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 16:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1u5ssokeqrft2.10i3540jblhfu.dlg@40tude.net> |
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On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:54:31 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 05:39:33 -0000, >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>>>> Or sleeping pills, or heroin or cocain or... >>>>> >>>> >>>> No you don't know enough about it. >>> >>> I know what common things are lethal and easy to get, which does not >>> include curare. >>> >> >> Anything can be lethal. Why didn't you mention >> alcohol? Alcohol is lethal in large doses. But it is, >> like others you mentioned, not the best way to go. >> Very nasty indeed. > > Sure even water is lethal if you drink too much, but irrelvant to the > point of easy and painless suicide. > >>>> >>>> He must've researched and found out asphyxiation is >>>> the easiest and least painful. >>> >>> Asphyxiation is a horrible way to die especially when compared to >>> simply falling asleep and never waking up, idiot. >>> >> >> I don't know, my claim is based on observation only. > > How many deaths have you observed? > Observation of circumstantial evidence :) >> He was an intelligent man (above average for sure). I >> know he had delusions and was diagnosed with brain >> disease, but I'm pretty sure he did it with planning >> and purpose. He had money and means to extend his life >> as long as his brain disease would let him, but he'd >> decided against it. >> >> He chose asphyxiation over OD. OD must be very bad >> cause Kurt Cobain had tried it and still chose gun. >> When he died he had enough narcotics in his blood to >> kill him five times over, but when dying time came it >> was bad enough to make him use the gun. These are >> solid facts. You can't just dismiss them. >> >> Williams had access to all sorts of narcotics. But he >> probably knew enough about them not to go that way. >> >> >>>>>> I think probably the fear of curare as the >>>>>> ideal suicide drug is keeping the doctors away from >>>>>> dispensing it or having anything to do with it. >>>>> >>>>> Silly nonsense. >>>>> >>>>> The ideal suicide drug would be a major OD of just about any narcotic. >>>>> >>>> >>>> No! As I said you don't know about it. Watch videos of >>>> those in youtube who have survived suicide attempts. >>>> For about one year I was interested about bipolars and >>>> watched many many videos from them (youtube is an >>>> excellent source for information on bipolars). OD is a >>>> horrible way to go. Then they find you and drag you >>>> out of it by force and you come back a totally fucked >>>> up man. My neighbor's niece's husband and his brother >>>> both OD'd together on heroin, one died one survived >>>> although they had done everything to be successful. It >>>> is chancy, leaves a wide margin you'd be found and >>>> rescued. >>> >>> Not if you live alone and take enough; happens every day. >>> >> >> Those who actually die by OD don't intend to die. > > Nonsense. > > 15.9% of suicides are from poisioning, i.e. OD on something. > Are you sure you didn't get it backwards? Perhaps it said only 15.9% of OD's turn out to be suicide attempts. > 26.7% are suffocation, i.e. hanging. > > Statistics indicate that roughly 12 people harm themselves for every > reported death by suicide. > > >> do it in strange places and that kills them (body >> doesn't know what's coming). Narcotics are not the >> easiest way to leave life according to those who >> tried. It just seems to be the "politically correct >> way" to leave life. > > Almost right, 49.9% of suicides are by firearm, which is seldom > survivable. > Firearm is effective but is nasty. It's a shame like using belts. Assisted suicide is the best way and curare could've very well been a useful part of it. Hell vets know it's best doing that for very sick cats, so why not humans as well. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 22:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6lsl4d-t4j.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587685 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:54:31 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: <snip> >> How many deaths have you observed? >> > > Observation of circumstantial evidence :) What is your native language? <snip> >> 15.9% of suicides are from poisioning, i.e. OD on something. >> > > Are you sure you didn't get it backwards? Perhaps it > said only 15.9% of OD's turn out to be suicide > attempts. Nope, the numbers are correct. <snip> > Firearm is effective but is nasty. It's a shame like > using belts. Assisted suicide is the best way and > curare could've very well been a useful part of it. Death by curare would not be a nice way to die, idiot. > Hell vets know it's best doing that for very sick > cats, so why not humans as well. Vets don't use curare, they use narcotics and the animal just goes to sleep never to wake up, idiot. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 19:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <2ql41wuc3kod.1r2p0l3o3typ8.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587711 |
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 22:43:18 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 17:54:31 -0000, >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > <snip> > >>> How many deaths have you observed? >>> >> >> Observation of circumstantial evidence :) > > What is your native language? > My statement was in response to your earlier confusion you displayed. > <snip> > >>> 15.9% of suicides are from poisioning, i.e. OD on something. >>> >> >> Are you sure you didn't get it backwards? Perhaps it >> said only 15.9% of OD's turn out to be suicide >> attempts. > > Nope, the numbers are correct. > Still doesn't say for sure OD is better than asphyxiation. > <snip> > >> Firearm is effective but is nasty. It's a shame like >> using belts. Assisted suicide is the best way and >> curare could've very well been a useful part of it. > > Death by curare would not be a nice way to die, idiot. > It is much better than belt for asphyxiation. >> Hell vets know it's best doing that for very sick >> cats, so why not humans as well. > > Vets don't use curare, they use narcotics and the animal just goes > to sleep never to wake up, idiot. > I meant assisted suicide, not curare. And I am pretty sure at least around 1999 they still used something that suddenly and totally paralyzed the cat. It couldn't have been curare though cause the heart also suddenly stopped. Curare doesn't do that. In lethal dose it only induces asphyxiation. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-03 01:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qd5m4d-g0k.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587746 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 22:43:18 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: <snip> >> What is your native language? >> > > My statement was in response to your earlier confusion > you displayed. You are avoiding the question. <snip> > Still doesn't say for sure OD is better than > asphyxiation. Try both then get back to us with a report of which you liked better. <snip> >> Death by curare would not be a nice way to die, idiot. > > It is much better than belt for asphyxiation. And you know this how? <snip> >> Vets don't use curare, they use narcotics and the animal just goes >> to sleep never to wake up, idiot. >> > > I meant assisted suicide, not curare. And I am pretty > sure at least around 1999 they still used something > that suddenly and totally paralyzed the cat. It > couldn't have been curare though cause the heart also > suddenly stopped. Curare doesn't do that. In lethal > dose it only induces asphyxiation. Nope, a large dose of an anesthetic often done in two doses; the first to relax the animal and put it to sleep and the second to cause death. It has been that way in the US since about 1990. Methods in third world hell holes may vary. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 23:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <xz0dsueqfs6h.1r819kxsqqzsu.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587750 |
On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 01:12:58 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 22:43:18 -0000, >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > <snip> > >>> What is your native language? >>> >> >> My statement was in response to your earlier confusion >> you displayed. > > You are avoiding the question. > At least I didn't snip it. You should give me credit for that. > <snip> > >> Still doesn't say for sure OD is better than >> asphyxiation. > > Try both then get back to us with a report of which you liked better. > Why would I try them myself when data is available to observe. I told you I've seen numerous reports of them, first hand, from those who survived. Youtube! > <snip> > >>> Death by curare would not be a nice way to die, idiot. >> >> It is much better than belt for asphyxiation. > > And you know this how? > Belt is disrespectful to the person. It will make you look horrible. You'd probably don't want to be seen like that. > <snip> > >>> Vets don't use curare, they use narcotics and the animal just goes >>> to sleep never to wake up, idiot. >>> >> >> I meant assisted suicide, not curare. And I am pretty >> sure at least around 1999 they still used something >> that suddenly and totally paralyzed the cat. It >> couldn't have been curare though cause the heart also >> suddenly stopped. Curare doesn't do that. In lethal >> dose it only induces asphyxiation. > > Nope, a large dose of an anesthetic often done in two doses; the first > to relax the animal and put it to sleep and the second to cause death. > > It has been that way in the US since about 1990. > > Methods in third world hell holes may vary. > This was in USA. Not quite a third world yet :) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-03 06:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <b8mm4d-ill.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587766 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 01:12:58 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: <snip> >> You are avoiding the question. >> > > At least I didn't snip it. You should give me credit > for that. You should be snipping a lot of old stuff. <snip> >> Try both then get back to us with a report of which you liked better. >> > > Why would I try them myself when data is available to > observe. I told you I've seen numerous reports of > them, first hand, from those who survived. Youtube! Didn't your mommy ever tell you movies are pretend? -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-03 09:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nple69p9m515.1viz4vz3502t7.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587800 |
On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 06:00:11 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >> On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 01:12:58 -0000, >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > <snip> > >>> You are avoiding the question. >>> >> >> At least I didn't snip it. You should give me credit >> for that. > > You should be snipping a lot of old stuff. > > <snip> > >>> Try both then get back to us with a report of which you liked better. >>> >> >> Why would I try them myself when data is available to >> observe. I told you I've seen numerous reports of >> them, first hand, from those who survived. Youtube! > > Didn't your mommy ever tell you movies are pretend? > These were serious, desperate, honest attempts on the side of the story tellers who had themselves come to youtube to find answers to their miseries. You cannot find such information even in academic and educational sources. The patients themselves had done all that together with their numerous doctors and hadn't found quite what they were looking for. You either don't know what you're talking about or are again baiting me for information. I bring all my information in, in a discussion. I'm ideal usenet netizen. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-03 17:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <h6tn4d-dpp.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587806 |
ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 06:00:11 -0000, > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 01:12:58 -0000, >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >>>> You are avoiding the question. >>>> >>> >>> At least I didn't snip it. You should give me credit >>> for that. >> >> You should be snipping a lot of old stuff. >> >> <snip> >> >>>> Try both then get back to us with a report of which you liked better. >>>> >>> >>> Why would I try them myself when data is available to >>> observe. I told you I've seen numerous reports of >>> them, first hand, from those who survived. Youtube! >> >> Didn't your mommy ever tell you movies are pretend? >> > > These were serious, desperate, honest attempts on the > side of the story tellers who had themselves come to > youtube to find answers to their miseries. You cannot > find such information even in academic and educational > sources. Yeah, right, all those youtube videos are made by geniuses that didn't need to go to medical school or do controlled studies. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 20:44 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. |
| Message-ID | <15u5f70qw7hnd.2ommqdg3a9hm.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587571 |
On Fri, 01 Jul 2016 18:07:41 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. > It's a drawn out, legal process; not SpurOfTheMoment. > Robin Williams could've done it that way. For terminally ill it is allowed (and helped). For non-terminally ill you just do it yourself of course cause you wouldn't give a damn if there was a law against it or not. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 21:38 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die; sick or not, Swiss or not. |
| Message-ID | <1me0yaed4m6kn$.al0rhow31lo0.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #587612 |
On Fri, 01 Jul 2016 18:55:57 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > You ( Mr. Freak ) replied ( to me ): >>> Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. >>> It's a drawn out, legal process; not SpurOfTheMoment. >>> Robin Williams could've done it that way. >> >> For terminally ill it is allowed ( and helped ). > Switzerland will help _anyone_ die; sick or not, Swiss or not. > Quoting " Euthanasia in _Switzerland; Debate " > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_in_Switzerland#Debate > << > In July 2009, British conductor Sir Edward Downes and > his wife Joan died together at a suicide clinic > outside Zürich "under circumstances of their own > choosing." Sir Edward was _NOT_ terminally ill, > but HIS WIFE was diagnosed with rapidly developing cancer. >>> Hmm. Yes I just read it. Things have changed towards better :) They've understood that they shouldn't play guardians for individuals. There are too many humans. Make curare in lethal doses an over the counter med in USA, complete with instructions and a syringe. Say $8.99. Like a hamburger and a drink. When dying in USA becomes as easy as having a hamburger that's when we have advanced past the Swiss. Let those who want to die, fucking die. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 19:00 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. |
| Message-ID | <5778477d$0$1508$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #587571 |
On 7/1/2016 9:07 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. > > It's a drawn out, legal process; not SpurOfTheMoment. > > Robin Williams could've done it that way. Rolf, only lefty Libs think that people need "help" to die. I mean just how Stooopid does a person have to be to be dumber and more incompetent than some progie? Something happens in life and since words and bullshit (which has the best mark-up) is all Lefty Libs know they all have everyone convinced that anyone suffering life needs to find some Lib for "counseling" to help them cope. How stupid does a person have to be to think one needs a Lib to help you? Hell, Libs can't even find their own ass if you allow them to use both hands. Plenty of examples right here. Look. There are thousands of ways any COMPETENT person can find to off themselves. People do it all the time when they don't even mean to. Lots of illegal drugs out there. Lots of tall places to jump off, lots of guns (until Hillary the commie gets elected) lots of electricity. You name it. Anyway, I presume this concern here is one of yours as you are clearly a person who needs journalist help with life's little trials (except writing software and I can tell that although your code sucks major, it is STILL orders of magnitude beyond what any of the other blowhards here are capable of! BWAHAHAHA! Just imagine HVAC trying to deal with assembler source! Is that funny or WHAT? Anyway, the point here is where I went to school there is a long standing tradition if you want to check out, you MUST jump off the Football Stadium. Do it for the old school tie! Can you imagine the SHAME at my school when that female nutjob killed herself by setting fire to her dorm room (and taking a few students with her)? Kids today! They not only don't have brains, but no sense of tradition either! Rolf, if life gets you down, don't bother with a bunch of bureaucratic paperwork! Government bullshit is WORSE than death! Just ask John. You can come use our stadium and we'll allow it a personal university "donation" to make up for that stupid firebug. RIP ROLF
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 23:24 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. |
| Message-ID | <u2vl4d-kcj.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #587719 |
In sci.physics benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote: > On 7/1/2016 9:07 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: >> Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. >> >> It's a drawn out, legal process; not SpurOfTheMoment. >> >> Robin Williams could've done it that way. > > Rolf, only lefty Libs think that people need "help" to die. How does a bedridden invalid do ANYTHING without help from other people? <snip long winded rant> -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 16:36 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. |
| Message-ID | <D39D9E0F.766A1%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #587719 |
On 7/2/16, 4:00 PM, in article 5778477d$0$1508$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com, "benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote: > On 7/1/2016 9:07 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: >> Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. >> >> It's a drawn out, legal process; not SpurOfTheMoment. >> >> Robin Williams could've done it that way. > > Rolf, only lefty Libs think that people need "help" to die. I mean just > how Stooopid does a person have to be to be dumber and more incompetent > than some progie? Something happens in life and since words and bullshit > (which has the best mark-up) is all Lefty Libs know they all have > everyone convinced that anyone suffering life needs to find some Lib for > "counseling" to help them cope. How stupid does a person have to be to > think one needs a Lib to help you? Hell, Libs can't even find their own > ass if you allow them to use both hands. Plenty of examples right here. > > Look. There are thousands of ways any COMPETENT person can find to off > themselves. People do it all the time when they don't even mean to. Lots > of illegal drugs out there. Lots of tall places to jump off, lots of > guns (until Hillary the commie gets elected) lots of electricity. You > name it. Wait... I thought Obama was going to take all the guns. What happened? I think Hillary is horrid and evil and nasty. But taking all your guns? Nope. That is just nonsense. NOT going to happen. Lots of REAL things to complain about with her... why make things up? > Anyway, I presume this concern here is one of yours as you are clearly a > person who needs journalist help with life's little trials (except > writing software and I can tell that although your code sucks major, it > is STILL orders of magnitude beyond what any of the other blowhards here > are capable of! BWAHAHAHA! Just imagine HVAC trying to deal with > assembler source! Is that funny or WHAT? > > Anyway, the point here is where I went to school there is a long > standing tradition if you want to check out, you MUST jump off the > Football Stadium. Do it for the old school tie! Can you imagine the > SHAME at my school when that female nutjob killed herself by setting > fire to her dorm room (and taking a few students with her)? Kids today! > They not only don't have brains, but no sense of tradition either! > > Rolf, if life gets you down, don't bother with a bunch of bureaucratic > paperwork! Government bullshit is WORSE than death! Just ask John. > > You can come use our stadium and we'll allow it a personal university > "donation" to make up for that stupid firebug. > > RIP ROLF -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 19:59 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. |
| Message-ID | <5778555f$0$3739$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #587734 |
On 7/2/2016 7:36 PM, Snit wrote: > On 7/2/16, 4:00 PM, in article > 5778477d$0$1508$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com, "benj" <benj@nobody.net> > wrote: > >> On 7/1/2016 9:07 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: >>> Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. >>> >>> It's a drawn out, legal process; not SpurOfTheMoment. >>> >>> Robin Williams could've done it that way. >> >> Rolf, only lefty Libs think that people need "help" to die. I mean just >> how Stooopid does a person have to be to be dumber and more incompetent >> than some progie? Something happens in life and since words and bullshit >> (which has the best mark-up) is all Lefty Libs know they all have >> everyone convinced that anyone suffering life needs to find some Lib for >> "counseling" to help them cope. How stupid does a person have to be to >> think one needs a Lib to help you? Hell, Libs can't even find their own >> ass if you allow them to use both hands. Plenty of examples right here. >> >> Look. There are thousands of ways any COMPETENT person can find to off >> themselves. People do it all the time when they don't even mean to. Lots >> of illegal drugs out there. Lots of tall places to jump off, lots of >> guns (until Hillary the commie gets elected) lots of electricity. You >> name it. > > Wait... I thought Obama was going to take all the guns. What happened? > > I think Hillary is horrid and evil and nasty. But taking all your guns? > Nope. That is just nonsense. NOT going to happen. > > Lots of REAL things to complain about with her... why make things up? What the hell? All I do is explain what other people have said and then *I* get accused of making stuff up? Hillary has been saying point blank what she is going to do and I take it you are not listening (well, you certainly can't be blamed for that) Hey, The democrats are having a "sit-in" in Congress right now demanding that all guns be removed from those not given permission (like say non-party members and non-government employees) Hillary and the Democrats are demanding that the president be given power to make an "enemies" list of anyone he deems should not have access to firearms. There you go. I suggest a real nice list of persons to have gun rights turned off can be obtained from the census bureau or the IRS. No problem. The USSR banned all private guns and they had an official crime rate of ZERO. That can happen here too. Think about it!
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 17:06 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. |
| Message-ID | <D39DA503.766AC%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #587738 |
On 7/2/16, 4:59 PM, in article 5778555f$0$3739$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com, "benj" <benj@nobody.net> wrote: > On 7/2/2016 7:36 PM, Snit wrote: >> On 7/2/16, 4:00 PM, in article >> 5778477d$0$1508$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com, "benj" <benj@nobody.net> >> wrote: >> >>> On 7/1/2016 9:07 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: >>>> Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. >>>> >>>> It's a drawn out, legal process; not SpurOfTheMoment. >>>> >>>> Robin Williams could've done it that way. >>> >>> Rolf, only lefty Libs think that people need "help" to die. I mean just >>> how Stooopid does a person have to be to be dumber and more incompetent >>> than some progie? Something happens in life and since words and bullshit >>> (which has the best mark-up) is all Lefty Libs know they all have >>> everyone convinced that anyone suffering life needs to find some Lib for >>> "counseling" to help them cope. How stupid does a person have to be to >>> think one needs a Lib to help you? Hell, Libs can't even find their own >>> ass if you allow them to use both hands. Plenty of examples right here. >>> >>> Look. There are thousands of ways any COMPETENT person can find to off >>> themselves. People do it all the time when they don't even mean to. Lots >>> of illegal drugs out there. Lots of tall places to jump off, lots of >>> guns (until Hillary the commie gets elected) lots of electricity. You >>> name it. >> >> Wait... I thought Obama was going to take all the guns. What happened? >> >> I think Hillary is horrid and evil and nasty. But taking all your guns? >> Nope. That is just nonsense. NOT going to happen. >> >> Lots of REAL things to complain about with her... why make things up? > > What the hell? All I do is explain what other people have said and then > *I* get accused of making stuff up? No: you made up a claim that Clinton was coming for all guns. > Hillary has been saying point blank what she is going to do and I take it you > are not listening (well, you certainly can't be blamed for that) Hey, The > democrats are having a "sit-in" in Congress right now demanding that all guns > be removed from those not given permission (like say non-party members and > non-government employees) Show the video of her saying she is coming for all the guns. Or even most. Would love to see it! > Hillary and the Democrats are demanding that the president be given > power to make an "enemies" list of anyone he deems should not have > access to firearms. Oh, you mean the people who Republicans agree might be terrorists and should not be able to even fly. And even then the idea is they should not buy guns... not have theirs taken. So you are just making up the thing about her coming to take guns. Do not get me wrong. The no-fly list has no due process and I think needs to be fixed. I think she should speak of that, too. But your claims are as dishonest as hers. And she is grossly dishonest. > There you go. I suggest a real nice list of persons > to have gun rights turned off can be obtained from the census bureau or > the IRS. No problem. What does the IRS have to do with the no-fly list? > The USSR banned all private guns and they had an official crime rate of > ZERO. That can happen here too. Think about it! Well, we clearly have to do something about guns in this country... but the NRA has dim wits convinced any reasonable gun laws are against the second amendment (a fairly new interpretation of the second amendment). But this has nothing to do with Clinton and your claim that she would make guns rare. Republicans said the same thing about Obama. And the last Clinton. In both cases gun sales went UP, not down. There are more guns in the hands of citizens now than 8 years ago. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 21:08 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. |
| Message-ID | <nl9vj3$okd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #587738 |
On 07/02/16 17:59, benj wrote: > On 7/2/2016 7:36 PM, Snit wrote: >> On 7/2/16, 4:00 PM, in article >> 5778477d$0$1508$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com, "benj" >> <benj@nobody.net> >> wrote: >> >>> On 7/1/2016 9:07 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: >>>> Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. >>>> >>>> It's a drawn out, legal process; not SpurOfTheMoment. >>>> >>>> Robin Williams could've done it that way. >>> >>> Rolf, only lefty Libs think that people need "help" to die. I mean just >>> how Stooopid does a person have to be to be dumber and more incompetent >>> than some progie? Something happens in life and since words and bullshit >>> (which has the best mark-up) is all Lefty Libs know they all have >>> everyone convinced that anyone suffering life needs to find some Lib for >>> "counseling" to help them cope. How stupid does a person have to be to >>> think one needs a Lib to help you? Hell, Libs can't even find their own >>> ass if you allow them to use both hands. Plenty of examples right here. >>> >>> Look. There are thousands of ways any COMPETENT person can find to off >>> themselves. People do it all the time when they don't even mean to. Lots >>> of illegal drugs out there. Lots of tall places to jump off, lots of >>> guns (until Hillary the commie gets elected) lots of electricity. You >>> name it. >> >> Wait... I thought Obama was going to take all the guns. What happened? >> >> I think Hillary is horrid and evil and nasty. But taking all your guns? >> Nope. That is just nonsense. NOT going to happen. >> >> Lots of REAL things to complain about with her... why make things up? > > What the hell? All I do is explain what other people have said and then > *I* get accused of making stuff up? Hillary has been saying point blank > what she is going to do and I take it you are not listening (well, you > certainly can't be blamed for that) Hey, The democrats are having a > "sit-in" in Congress right now demanding that all guns be removed from > those not given permission (like say non-party members and > non-government employees) > > Hillary and the Democrats are demanding that the president be given > power to make an "enemies" list of anyone he deems should not have > access to firearms. There you go. I suggest a real nice list of persons > to have gun rights turned off can be obtained from the census bureau or > the IRS. No problem. > > The USSR banned all private guns and they had an official crime rate of > ZERO. That can happen here too. Think about it! > Well, I did, and it sounds like the usual soviet lie. No such thing as a crime rate of zero.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-02 20:32 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. |
| Message-ID | <D39DD578.766D7%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #587761 |
On 7/2/16, 8:08 PM, in article nl9vj3$okd$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> wrote: > On 07/02/16 17:59, benj wrote: >> On 7/2/2016 7:36 PM, Snit wrote: >>> On 7/2/16, 4:00 PM, in article >>> 5778477d$0$1508$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com, "benj" >>> <benj@nobody.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 7/1/2016 9:07 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: >>>>> Switzerland will help _anyone_ die. >>>>> >>>>> It's a drawn out, legal process; not SpurOfTheMoment. >>>>> >>>>> Robin Williams could've done it that way. >>>> >>>> Rolf, only lefty Libs think that people need "help" to die. I mean just >>>> how Stooopid does a person have to be to be dumber and more incompetent >>>> than some progie? Something happens in life and since words and bullshit >>>> (which has the best mark-up) is all Lefty Libs know they all have >>>> everyone convinced that anyone suffering life needs to find some Lib for >>>> "counseling" to help them cope. How stupid does a person have to be to >>>> think one needs a Lib to help you? Hell, Libs can't even find their own >>>> ass if you allow them to use both hands. Plenty of examples right here. >>>> >>>> Look. There are thousands of ways any COMPETENT person can find to off >>>> themselves. People do it all the time when they don't even mean to. Lots >>>> of illegal drugs out there. Lots of tall places to jump off, lots of >>>> guns (until Hillary the commie gets elected) lots of electricity. You >>>> name it. >>> >>> Wait... I thought Obama was going to take all the guns. What happened? >>> >>> I think Hillary is horrid and evil and nasty. But taking all your guns? >>> Nope. That is just nonsense. NOT going to happen. >>> >>> Lots of REAL things to complain about with her... why make things up? >> >> What the hell? All I do is explain what other people have said and then >> *I* get accused of making stuff up? Hillary has been saying point blank >> what she is going to do and I take it you are not listening (well, you >> certainly can't be blamed for that) Hey, The democrats are having a >> "sit-in" in Congress right now demanding that all guns be removed from >> those not given permission (like say non-party members and >> non-government employees) >> >> Hillary and the Democrats are demanding that the president be given >> power to make an "enemies" list of anyone he deems should not have >> access to firearms. There you go. I suggest a real nice list of persons >> to have gun rights turned off can be obtained from the census bureau or >> the IRS. No problem. >> >> The USSR banned all private guns and they had an official crime rate of >> ZERO. That can happen here too. Think about it! >> > Well, I did, and it sounds like the usual soviet lie. No such thing as > a crime rate of zero. > > It just amazes me how people feel the need to make up stories to make even dishonest people like Clinton seem worse than they are. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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