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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2015-11-20 10:49 -0800 |
| Last post | 2015-12-10 19:29 +0000 |
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Based On Nonsense The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-20 10:49 -0800
Re: Based On Nonsense The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-20 11:00 -0800
Re: Based On Nonsense The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-21 17:16 -0800
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 00:57 -0500
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 22:17 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 01:30 -0500
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:18 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' "Alex Sutter" <invalid@troll-lo-lo.com> - 2015-11-22 08:36 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:48 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 09:17 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:31 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:26 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' Puppet_Sock <puppet_sock@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-24 12:43 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-24 16:28 -0600
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 15:25 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 23:49 -0500
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-24 16:27 -0600
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-21 23:11 -0800
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-11-22 09:30 +0100
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-22 00:41 -0800
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:40 -0500
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 07:45 -0800
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-22 13:00 -0800
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-11-26 07:10 +0100
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-11-26 09:01 -0600
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2015-11-22 22:32 +0100
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-22 14:17 -0800
Re: Based On Nonsense The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-22 21:37 -0800
Re: Based On Nonsense The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-24 22:08 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 22:20 -0800
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-11-25 07:40 +0100
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 10:24 -0800
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ Jack Monaco <jacksh@umbBertopal.org> - 2015-11-25 18:32 +0000
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-25 12:01 -0800
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-11-26 04:48 +0100
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ Jack Monaco <jacksh@umbBertopal.org> - 2015-11-26 14:21 +0000
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-11-27 08:05 +0100
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-23 11:02 -0600
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-23 11:38 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' Walter Ilinois <walin@wej98j5q.org> - 2015-11-23 20:44 +0000
Re: We're robots, programmed to get food, water, air, etc. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 19:57 -0800
Re: We're robots, programmed to get food, water, air, etc. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 23:40 -0500
Re: The great unwashed. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-11-23 21:46 -0800
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-23 22:23 -0800
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-24 08:31 -0500
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. "W.T.S. = Golden_Truth_Golden_Light!!!" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-11-24 06:00 -0600
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-24 06:49 -0600
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-24 08:57 -0500
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-11-24 10:10 -0800
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-24 11:14 -0700
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 13:59 -0500
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-24 12:07 -0700
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 14:48 -0500
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-24 13:03 -0700
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2015-11-24 08:16 -0600
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-11-24 15:54 +0100
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 13:43 -0500
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-24 12:07 -0700
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 14:50 -0500
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-24 13:02 -0700
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-11-24 14:04 -0600
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-24 13:08 -0700
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-11-24 18:05 -0600
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-24 17:15 -0700
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-11-24 13:56 -0600
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2015-11-24 14:32 -0600
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-24 14:44 -0600
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 12:55 -0800
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-24 14:10 -0700
Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 13:22 -0500
Re: We're robots, programmed to get food, water, air, etc. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 06:08 -0800
Re: The great unwashed. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-24 13:21 -0500
Re: The great unwashed. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-11-24 11:35 -0800
Re: The great unwashed. snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe, DoW #2) - 2015-11-24 19:56 +0000
Ben Jacoby should play poker. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-26 06:02 -0800
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-11-26 11:42 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-26 12:48 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-11-26 13:17 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-11-26 10:41 -0800
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-11-26 13:48 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. buZZard <buzz@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-26 20:32 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-26 23:52 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. buZZard <buzz@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-26 20:29 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-27 00:14 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-11-26 10:39 -0800
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-11-26 13:46 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-27 00:10 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-26 12:36 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-11-26 12:49 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-11-26 10:43 -0800
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-11-26 13:51 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. buZZard <buzz@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-26 20:34 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2015-11-26 20:41 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. buZZard <buzz@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-26 20:58 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-11-26 20:23 -0800
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. buZZard <buzz@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-26 23:30 -0500
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-11-26 20:23 -0800
Re: Ben Jacoby should play poker. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-27 00:15 -0500
Re: We're robots, programmed to get food, water, air, etc. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-27 11:14 -0800
Re: We're robots, programmed to get food, water, air, etc. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-27 12:00 -0800
Re: We're robots, programmed to get food, water, air, etc. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-27 16:53 -0800
Re: We're robots, programmed to get food, water, air, etc. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-11-27 19:15 -0800
Re: We're robots, programmed to get food, water, air, etc. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-28 08:43 -0800
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-11-26 08:26 -0500
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2015-12-09 10:34 +0000
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 03:18 -0800
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-09 08:31 -0600
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 07:51 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 16:41 -0500
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-12-10 16:28 +0000
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 16:01 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' "Alfred Summers" <invalid@eyample.com> - 2015-12-10 17:55 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-12-11 03:23 +0000
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 07:23 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-12-11 22:33 +0000
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 15:41 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 22:10 -0800
Re: 'Based On Nonsense' pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-10 23:24 -0800
Re: ‘Based On Nonsense’ Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2015-12-10 19:29 +0000
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| From | Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-23 19:57 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: We're robots, programmed to get food, water, air, etc. |
| Message-ID | <27ec6dcf-4b7f-44dd-a468-e28675e0946e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534817 |
On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 7:35:57 PM UTC-5, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > > Most scientists think "Life" requires liquid water. > Ben_Jacoby (benj), on the other hand, > thinks something like "Star Wars" could be true. > > Darwin showed how we're related to monkeys; > fearing it might justify murder and such, many reject it. > > Truth is: > > We're robots, programmed to get food, water, air, etc. Speak for yourself you preprogrammed robot Jeff. STFU too. > Like the sun, stars and everything else... > we consume "exergy" (energy that can do work); > i.e. we ratchet entropy. Whatever. I mean "Whatever." Spelling makes it so "exergetic." > "Randomness" is ignorance, nothing more. That you randomly display your "ignorance" "Jeff," brings it "home." -- Mahipal "IPMM... I use quotes Quotes QUOTES, therefore I am."
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-23 23:40 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: We're robots, programmed to get food, water, air, etc. |
| Message-ID | <kTR4y.175869$MN.85876@fx12.iad> |
| In reply to | #534974 |
On 11/23/2015 10:57 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 7:35:57 PM UTC-5, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>
>> Most scientists think "Life" requires liquid water.
>> Ben_Jacoby (benj), on the other hand,
>> thinks something like "Star Wars" could be true.
>>
>> Darwin showed how we're related to monkeys;
>> fearing it might justify murder and such, many reject it.
>>
>> Truth is:
>>
>> We're robots, programmed to get food, water, air, etc.
>
> Speak for yourself you preprogrammed robot Jeff. STFU too.
>
>> Like the sun, stars and everything else...
>> we consume "exergy" (energy that can do work);
>> i.e. we ratchet entropy.
>
> Whatever. I mean "Whatever." Spelling makes it so "exergetic."
>
>> "Randomness" is ignorance, nothing more.
>
> That you randomly display your "ignorance" "Jeff," brings it "home."
>
> -- Mahipal "IPMM... I use quotes Quotes QUOTES, therefore I am."
Think of this Mypal: Causality is a natural law in the earth. This is
well established in science. Therefore Rolf's idea that everything is
"already written" as they say, has a certain logic to it.
Oddly, religion takes a different view. Take the atheist religion for
example. They go with Darwin and thus their "creator" is random chance.
But science has said there is no random chance! Causality reigns!
So is Rolf correct then? Puleeeze! You know better than that! Most major
religions teach that while causality is a natural law, it can be trumped
by "free will". This means that MANKIND is the master of His (includes
her) own destiny. IT is the WILL of man that interacts with the
luminiferous aether to create all we term reality.
Oddly if man chooses NOT to exercise his choice which is to say his
will, then the future just chugs along EXACTLY as ROLF submits! Scary!
which is why it is important to constantly be making conscious choices
about the things you do! Other wise you end up like ROLF! Nuff said.
HVAC will think this is "froth" as he calls it. Of course it's only his
total ignorance showing. One should NEVER let LIB writers be put in
charge of ANYTHING. HVAC is proof positive of that rule.
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| From | "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> |
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| Date | 2015-11-23 21:46 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: The great unwashed. |
| Message-ID | <MPG.30bd997b25fabcc998b842@news.altopia.com> |
| In reply to | #534983 |
In article <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{9.43P.Seattle.2015}>, Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>
says...
>
> <PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'><big><big>Â
> You (Ben_Jacoby) wrote:
> > It's the WILL of man that interacts with the
> > luminiferous aether to create all we term reality.
>
> General Relativity put stop to the "luminiferous aether";
> you don't want to understand that, so you don't.
> You cling to ignorance, the abode of your God.
>
> You flip a coin, hoping for heads, God willing;
> you have a 50% of getting it.
> In the end, you say "God Spoke".
>
> Your God is confined to the shaddows;
> banish _ignorance_, and your God is exposed, naked.
>
> Truth is:
>
> What you want, all you desire,
> has been programmed into you (by nature).
> You're a robot.
>
> Darwin showed how we're related to monkeys;
> fearing it might justify murder and such, many reject it.
> Likewise, you (the great unwashed) reject Einstein.
Most won't "get" this, but I do.
--
Checkmate, AUK DoW #1
Official AUK Award Giver-Outer
Originator of the "Dance for me" (tm) lame
Copyright © 2015
all rights reserved
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| From | pnalsing@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-11-23 22:23 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <3593e7eb-a479-45af-8cfe-e574a84cd9e1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #534994 |
On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 10:12:11 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution: Wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolution
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 08:31 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <uhp85b5s39q4pn9mjdmb0pm3ijnqqq3l2a@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #534995 |
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 22:23:07 -0800 (PST), pnalsing@gmail.com wrote: >On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 10:12:11 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > >> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution: > >Wrong. > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolution From your Wikipedia link: Only 14% believed that "human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process"
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| From | "W.T.S. = Golden_Truth_Golden_Light!!!" <m14m@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 06:00 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <XnsA55C3D1193DD0m14mearthlinknet@216.168.4.170> |
| In reply to | #534994 |
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
The other 86% are ignorant fools.
Evolution, perfect truth.
Creationism, perfect lie.
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 06:49 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <27n85bd154pc8bl6o52gt2fsspootcc959@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #535011 |
W.T.S. = Golden_Truth_Golden_Light!!! wrote:
>Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
*plonk*
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| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 08:57 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <n31q7k$619$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #535015 |
On 2015-11-24 7:49 AM, chrisv wrote:
> W.T.S. = Golden_Truth_Golden_Light!!! wrote:
>
>> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
>
> *plonk*
You're a real man, cumresiduev.
--
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW & PETA supporter
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| From | "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 10:10 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <MPG.30be480b7becc04c98b84e@news.altopia.com> |
| In reply to | #535011 |
In article <XnsA55C3D1193DD0m14mearthlinknet@216.168.4.170>,
m14m@earthlink.net says...
>
> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
>
> > Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
> The other 86% are ignorant fools.
>
> Evolution, perfect truth.
> Creationism, perfect lie.
HINT: Maybe it's a little of both...
--
Checkmate, AUK DoW #1
Official AUK Award Giver-Outer
Originator of the "Dance for me" (tm) lame
Copyright © 2015
all rights reserved
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-24 11:14 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <D279F6F9.651B0%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #535079 |
On 11/24/15, 11:10 AM, in article
MPG.30be480b7becc04c98b84e@news.altopia.com, "Checkmate, DoW #1"
<Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:
> In article <XnsA55C3D1193DD0m14mearthlinknet@216.168.4.170>,
> m14m@earthlink.net says...
>
>
>>
>> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
>>
>>> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
>> The other 86% are ignorant fools.
>>
>> Evolution, perfect truth.
>> Creationism, perfect lie.
>
> HINT: Maybe it's a little of both...
People can believe as they wish... but in a science class in a public school
evolution should be taught, given that it is science and creationism is not.
It makes no more sense to teach creationism in schools or to use it in
public policy than it does to assume that pi = 3 in math (even though it
says it does in the Bible).
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-24 13:59 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <Wr25y.105415$ij2.46850@fx08.iad> |
| In reply to | #535079 |
On 11/24/2015 01:10 PM, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
> In article <XnsA55C3D1193DD0m14mearthlinknet@216.168.4.170>,
> m14m@earthlink.net says...
>
>
>>
>> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
>>
>>> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
>> The other 86% are ignorant fools.
>>
>> Evolution, perfect truth.
>> Creationism, perfect lie.
>
> HINT: Maybe it's a little of both...
>
Ignorant fools are the ones thinking that "consensus" in science is
determined by a democratic vote.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-24 12:07 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <D27A0373.651CA%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #535104 |
On 11/24/15, 11:59 AM, in article Wr25y.105415$ij2.46850@fx08.iad, "benj"
<none@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/24/2015 01:10 PM, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>> In article <XnsA55C3D1193DD0m14mearthlinknet@216.168.4.170>,
>> m14m@earthlink.net says...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
>>>
>>>> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
>>> The other 86% are ignorant fools.
>>>
>>> Evolution, perfect truth.
>>> Creationism, perfect lie.
>>
>> HINT: Maybe it's a little of both...
>>
> Ignorant fools are the ones thinking that "consensus" in science is
> determined by a democratic vote.
Maybe you need to look up the word "consensus"? When pretty much all of a
group believe on thing, then yes, that is a consensus.
With evolution there is near universal consensus ... and given the massive
evidence and lack of any other theory that makes sense.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-24 14:48 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <da35y.198124$MN.90151@fx12.iad> |
| In reply to | #535111 |
On 11/24/2015 02:07 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 11/24/15, 11:59 AM, in article Wr25y.105415$ij2.46850@fx08.iad, "benj"
> <none@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/24/2015 01:10 PM, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>> In article <XnsA55C3D1193DD0m14mearthlinknet@216.168.4.170>,
>>> m14m@earthlink.net says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
>>>>
>>>>> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
>>>> The other 86% are ignorant fools.
>>>>
>>>> Evolution, perfect truth.
>>>> Creationism, perfect lie.
>>>
>>> HINT: Maybe it's a little of both...
>>>
>> Ignorant fools are the ones thinking that "consensus" in science is
>> determined by a democratic vote.
>
> Maybe you need to look up the word "consensus"? When pretty much all of a
> group believe on thing, then yes, that is a consensus.
>
> With evolution there is near universal consensus ... and given the massive
> evidence and lack of any other theory that makes sense.
Perhaps you should look up the term "science". Unlike what nutjob HVAC
always promotes, science is not based upon faith or belief.
Evolution evidence is FAR from "massive" AND CERTAINLY NOT CONCLUSIVE in
spite of great efforts to sweep annoying data under the scientific rug.
There is no rule in science that says a lack of any other theory, is
proof that your theory is true. Do you really know so little about science?
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-24 13:03 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <D27A10BC.651DC%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #535136 |
On 11/24/15, 12:48 PM, in article da35y.198124$MN.90151@fx12.iad, "benj"
<none@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/24/2015 02:07 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 11/24/15, 11:59 AM, in article Wr25y.105415$ij2.46850@fx08.iad, "benj"
>> <none@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/24/2015 01:10 PM, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>>> In article <XnsA55C3D1193DD0m14mearthlinknet@216.168.4.170>,
>>>> m14m@earthlink.net says...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
>>>>> The other 86% are ignorant fools.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evolution, perfect truth.
>>>>> Creationism, perfect lie.
>>>>
>>>> HINT: Maybe it's a little of both...
>>>>
>>> Ignorant fools are the ones thinking that "consensus" in science is
>>> determined by a democratic vote.
>>
>> Maybe you need to look up the word "consensus"? When pretty much all of a
>> group believe on thing, then yes, that is a consensus.
>>
>> With evolution there is near universal consensus ... and given the massive
>> evidence and lack of any other theory that makes sense.
>
> Perhaps you should look up the term "science". Unlike what nutjob HVAC
> always promotes, science is not based upon faith or belief.
Well, there are basic tenants of reproducibility and the like. :)
> Evolution evidence is FAR from "massive" AND CERTAINLY NOT CONCLUSIVE in
> spite of great efforts to sweep annoying data under the scientific rug.
So point to the scientific sites (actual scientific sites) which show better
ideas. Or propose one and become famous!
> There is no rule in science that says a lack of any other theory, is
> proof that your theory is true.
Nor did anyone suggest that was the case. Other than you. :)
> Do you really know so little about science?
Clearly you know that little. :)
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-24 08:16 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <XnsA55C53DBB3C9Cnoemailattnet@216.166.97.131> |
| In reply to | #534994 |
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
> <PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'><big><big>
> You (Checkmate) replied (to me):
>> > What you want, all you desire,
>> > has been programmed into you (by nature).
>> > You're a robot.
>> >
>> > Darwin showed how we're related to monkeys;
>> > fearing it might justify murder and such, many reject it.
>> > Likewise, you (the great unwashed) reject Einstein.
>>
>> Most won't "get" this, but I do.
>
> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
Until they need a vaccination or antibiotic.
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| From | "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-24 15:54 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <dbjc15Fqkl6U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #535039 |
On 24/11/2015 15:16, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
>
>> <PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'><big><big>Â
>> You (Checkmate) replied (to me):
>>>> What you want, all you desire,
>>>> has been programmed into you (by nature).
>>>> You're a robot.
>>>>
>>>> Darwin showed how we're related to monkeys;
>>>> fearing it might justify murder and such, many reject it.
>>>> Likewise, you (the great unwashed) reject Einstein.
>>>
>>> Most won't "get" this, but I do.
>>
>> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
>
>
> Until they need a vaccination or antibiotic.
>
And then they continue to disbelieve evolution.
True believers have an almost endless capacity to disregard cognitive
dissonance.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-24 13:43 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <vd25y.201968$eK.18142@fx11.iad> |
| In reply to | #535039 |
On 11/24/2015 09:16 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
>
>> <PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'><big><big>Â
>> You (Checkmate) replied (to me):
>>>> What you want, all you desire,
>>>> has been programmed into you (by nature).
>>>> You're a robot.
>>>>
>>>> Darwin showed how we're related to monkeys;
>>>> fearing it might justify murder and such, many reject it.
>>>> Likewise, you (the great unwashed) reject Einstein.
>>>
>>> Most won't "get" this, but I do.
>>
>> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
>
>
> Until they need a vaccination or antibiotic.
So you think you'll be cured by "chance"? That even a bigger stretch
than hoping God does it.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-24 12:07 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <D27A0390.651CB%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #535094 |
On 11/24/15, 11:43 AM, in article vd25y.201968$eK.18142@fx11.iad, "benj"
<none@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/24/2015 09:16 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
>>
>>> <PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'><big><big>Â
>>> You (Checkmate) replied (to me):
>>>>> What you want, all you desire,
>>>>> has been programmed into you (by nature).
>>>>> You're a robot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Darwin showed how we're related to monkeys;
>>>>> fearing it might justify murder and such, many reject it.
>>>>> Likewise, you (the great unwashed) reject Einstein.
>>>>
>>>> Most won't "get" this, but I do.
>>>
>>> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
>>
>>
>> Until they need a vaccination or antibiotic.
>
> So you think you'll be cured by "chance"? That even a bigger stretch
> than hoping God does it.
That is YOUR stretch... you made it up.
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-24 14:50 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <Rb35y.198125$MN.77236@fx12.iad> |
| In reply to | #535112 |
On 11/24/2015 02:07 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 11/24/15, 11:43 AM, in article vd25y.201968$eK.18142@fx11.iad, "benj"
> <none@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/24/2015 09:16 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
>>>
>>>> <PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'><big><big>Â
>>>> You (Checkmate) replied (to me):
>>>>>> What you want, all you desire,
>>>>>> has been programmed into you (by nature).
>>>>>> You're a robot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darwin showed how we're related to monkeys;
>>>>>> fearing it might justify murder and such, many reject it.
>>>>>> Likewise, you (the great unwashed) reject Einstein.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most won't "get" this, but I do.
>>>>
>>>> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
>>>
>>>
>>> Until they need a vaccination or antibiotic.
>>
>> So you think you'll be cured by "chance"? That even a bigger stretch
>> than hoping God does it.
>
> That is YOUR stretch... you made it up.
I did no such thing. Do you deny that the theory of evolution is based
upon genetic variations determined by chance? Your whole religion is
based upon belief in chance.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-24 13:02 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution. |
| Message-ID | <D27A106A.651DB%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #535139 |
On 11/24/15, 12:50 PM, in article Rb35y.198125$MN.77236@fx12.iad, "benj"
<none@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/24/2015 02:07 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 11/24/15, 11:43 AM, in article vd25y.201968$eK.18142@fx11.iad, "benj"
>> <none@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/24/2015 09:16 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote in news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23{10.12P.Seattle.2015}:
>>>>
>>>>> <PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'><big><big>Â
>>>>> You (Checkmate) replied (to me):
>>>>>>> What you want, all you desire,
>>>>>>> has been programmed into you (by nature).
>>>>>>> You're a robot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Darwin showed how we're related to monkeys;
>>>>>>> fearing it might justify murder and such, many reject it.
>>>>>>> Likewise, you (the great unwashed) reject Einstein.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most won't "get" this, but I do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only 14% of Americans believe in GodlessEvolution:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Until they need a vaccination or antibiotic.
>>>
>>> So you think you'll be cured by "chance"? That even a bigger stretch
>>> than hoping God does it.
>>
>> That is YOUR stretch... you made it up.
>
> I did no such thing.
You made up the idea he would be cured by chance.
> Do you deny that the theory of evolution is based upon genetic variations
> determined by chance?
That was not your claim.
> Your whole religion is based upon belief in chance.
I am an atheist.
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