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| Started by | "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-06-16 23:01 -0700 |
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'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 23:01 -0700
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-06-20 12:31 -0700
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 17:52 -0700
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-20 20:36 -0500
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 08:40 -0500
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-21 10:50 -0500
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 11:41 -0500
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 02:45 -0700
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 15:09 -0700
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-21 19:17 -0500
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-22 15:51 +0000
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 02:50 -0700
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-21 19:36 -0500
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 18:55 -0700
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 09:53 -0700
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-06-22 13:35 -0500
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 14:58 -0700
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 23:47 -0700
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-21 02:06 +0000
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-06-21 13:30 -0700
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 18:29 -0700
Re: 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 00:46 -0700
corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 14:32 -0700
Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 23:55 -0700
Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 06:10 -0700
Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 02:48 -0700
Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 16:21 -0700
Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 16:52 -0700
Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 17:00 -0700
Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-27 17:13 -0700
Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 00:27 -0700
space is free with atoms in it noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 10:54 -0700
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-20 18:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2f54d377-36c4-4ad2-8139-0308de59d551@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #585854 |
that is just a reification of the ideal of Newton, who also said tha tlight goes faster in ... tarpaper > Of course. All other particles have mass, so why not photons? Just because our science has not yet precise enough instruments to measure it does not mean it does not exist. > > Double-A
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| From | "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-21 00:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9913cbb6-2444-4be2-8621-a223491ff471@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #585854 |
On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 10:31:14 PM UTC+3, Double-A wrote: > On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 11:01:08 PM UTC-7, Y.Porat wrote: > > 'NO MASS' -THE ONLY **ONE* !!!! MASS -== NO REAL PHYSICS !!! > > > > Even photons have mass = the only one mass ! > > (not ''relativistic'' and not 'schmelativistic '' mass !! > > > > old copyright by > > > > TIA > > Eng > > Y.Porat > > ================================ > > > Of course. All other particles have mass, so why not photons? Just because our science has not yet precise enough instruments to measure it does not mean it does not exist. > > Double-A =========================== right mi will tell you why it was so difficult for physicists togetit it started with the relativistic rule that NO MASS CAN REAC c'''.. ie if it Actually moves at c '''''ITS MASS SHOULD BECOME INFINIRE """!!!! SO 'SMATIES' SAIED IF SO '''IT MAS NO MASS '' !! and that was disastrous for advance in physics !! it didn t occur to those smart mathematicians that call themselves physicist THAT THE PHOTON (MASS) IS A EXCEPTION TO THE RULE THAT 'NO MASS CN REACH C ''' please note that even mathematically while v=c the gamma factor becomes UNDEFINED EVEN MATHEMATICALLY !!! AGAIN EVEN MATHEMATICASLLY IT IS UNDEFINED !! so they picked the alternative that fited their crippled biased notion that the photon has no mass and instead adopted the new crocked idea that IT HAS ONLY ''RELATIVISTIC MASS' THEY COULD NOT RUN AWAY FROM ADMITTTUNG MAASS BECAUSE THE MASS DINENTUIN IS BUILT IN THE FORMULA! ======================== than came an anonymous called Y Porat and told the smaties E ''single' [photon is not E single = hf but rather E single photon energy is = hf times n while 0 > n <<<<<<1.000 proves by a simple experiment that light is emitted during much MUCH less that a second WHILE F IS ONE SECOND DEFINED !!! in shot historic break through in physics ! by an anonymous called -------------- Eng Yehiel Porat ---------------------------- yet the bad part of it is that it takes so long(much too long ) for **decent* honest cleaver people to admit it and internalize it for real advance in physics may be because of private personal politics in physics !! ============================= 2 the mass of the real single photon was calculated by me as about expo -90 Kilogram THEONLY ONE KILOGRAM 11 not relativistic and not 'schmelativistic' ie it will never be even ****detected** !!as ''a single' but as a huge bundle of single photons and here goes that 'double slit phenomenon 'enigmas'' ) as well 11.... ======================== TIA anonymous Y.P =========================================
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-21 14:32 -0700 |
| Subject | corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version |
| Message-ID | <7a972cfd-5432-4cb6-afa5-45bac9fd3164@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #585962 |
this is just an artifact of the newtonion corpuscle, which was completely wrong, because eL Fig alleged that light goes faster in denser media. so, anyway, *all* properties of light are those of waves in the matter of free space, totally dependent on the index of refraction of the medium ... index for air at sealevel is 1.0003; so, at what heighth would the index be 1.00003, 1.000003, 1.0000003 etc. > it didn t occur to those smart mathematicians that call themselves physicist > THAT THE PHOTON (MASS) IS A EXCEPTION TO THE RULE THAT > 'NO MASS CN REACH C ''' > > please note that even mathematically > while v=c > > the gamma factor becomes UNDEFINED EVEN MATHEMATICALLY !!! > AGAIN EVEN MATHEMATICASLLY IT IS UNDEFINED !! > > so they picked the alternative that fited their > crippled biased notion that > the photon has no mass > and instead adopted the new crocked idea > that > IT HAS ONLY ''RELATIVISTIC MASS' > > THEY COULD NOT RUN AWAY FROM ADMITTTUNG MAASS > BECAUSE THE MASS DINENTUIN IS BUILT IN THE FORMULA! > ======================== > than came an anonymous called Y Porat > and told the smaties > E ''single' [photon > is not E single = hf > but rather > > E single photon energy is = hf times n > while > 0 > n <<<<<<1.000 > proves by a simple experiment that > light is emitted during much MUCH less that a second > > WHILE F IS ONE SECOND DEFINED !!! > in shot > historic break through in physics ! > by an anonymous called > -------------- > Eng > Yehiel Porat > ---------------------------- > yet the bad part of it is > that it takes so long(much too long ) for **decent* > honest cleaver people > to admit it and internalize it > for real advance in physics > may be because of private personal > politics in physics !! > ============================= > 2 > the mass of the real single photon was calculated by me > as > about expo -90 Kilogram > THEONLY ONE KILOGRAM 11 > not relativistic and not 'schmelativistic' > ie > it will never be even ****detected** !!as ''a single' > but as a huge bundle of single photons > and here goes that > 'double slit phenomenon 'enigmas'' ) as well 11.... > ======================== > TIA > anonymous > Y.P > =========================================
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| From | "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-21 23:55 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version |
| Message-ID | <94ea9407-e4ab-4f8a-b1f4-e7b71b23fc76@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #586074 |
On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 12:32:44 AM UTC+3, noTthaTguY wrote: > this is just an artifact of the newtonion corpuscle, > which was completely wrong, because > eL Fig alleged that light goes faster in denser media. so, anyway, > *all* properties of light are those of waves > in the matter of free space, > totally dependent on the index of refraction of the medium ... > index for air at sealevel is 1.0003; so, > at what heighth would the index be 1.00003, 1.000003, 1.0000003 etc. > > > it didn t occur to those smart mathematicians that call themselves physicist > > THAT THE PHOTON (MASS) IS A EXCEPTION TO THE RULE THAT > > 'NO MASS CN REACH C ''' > > > > please note that even mathematically > > while v=c > > > > the gamma factor becomes UNDEFINED EVEN MATHEMATICALLY !!! > > AGAIN EVEN MATHEMATICASLLY IT IS UNDEFINED !! > > > > so they picked the alternative that fited their > > crippled biased notion that > > the photon has no mass > > and instead adopted the new crocked idea > > that > > IT HAS ONLY ''RELATIVISTIC MASS' > > > > THEY COULD NOT RUN AWAY FROM ADMITTTUNG MAASS > > BECAUSE THE MASS DINENTUIN IS BUILT IN THE FORMULA! > > ======================== > > than came an anonymous called Y Porat > > and told the smaties > > E ''single' [photon > > is not E single = hf > > but rather > > > > E single photon energy is = hf times n > > while > > 0 > n <<<<<<1.000 > > proves by a simple experiment that > > light is emitted during much MUCH less that a second > > > > WHILE F IS ONE SECOND DEFINED !!! > > in shot > > historic break through in physics ! > > by an anonymous called > > -------------- > > Eng > > Yehiel Porat > > ---------------------------- > > yet the bad part of it is > > that it takes so long(much too long ) for **decent* > > honest cleaver people > > to admit it and internalize it > > for real advance in physics > > may be because of private personal > > politics in physics !! > > ============================= > > 2 > > the mass of the real single photon was calculated by me > > as > > about expo -90 Kilogram > > THEONLY ONE KILOGRAM 11 > > not relativistic and not 'schmelativistic' > > ie > > it will never be even ****detected** !!as ''a single' > > but as a huge bundle of single photons > > and here goes that > > 'double slit phenomenon 'enigmas'' ) as well 11.... > > ======================== > > TIA > > anonymous > > Y.P > > ========================================= even photons has mass THE ONLY MASS !! NOT RELATIVISTIC MASS AND NOT SCHMELATIVISTIC MASS JJUST THE ONE ONLY MASS !! ATB Y.Porat ===============================================
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| From | john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-22 06:10 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version |
| Message-ID | <db1f4cf5-f6fd-4dcf-8b7a-eb6a15dcfffb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #586132 |
Mass is caused by the interaction between the 'ocean' of Space and the matter in question. That matter is absorbing energy from the incoming 'waves' of energy all the time by being in sync with them. Since matter is vibrating in all directions equally, it absorbs from all directions equally. It is possible to control the matter's vibrations to one plane, instantaneously, by having all the atoms precess in sync, which limits the direction of absorption to the axis of precession, making the matter "massless" from all other directions
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| From | "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-25 02:48 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version |
| Message-ID | <5ebbd4b0-77ca-4088-b92c-877c6a2ffe45@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #586158 |
On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 4:10:37 PM UTC+3, john wrote: > Mass is caused by the interaction > between the 'ocean' of Space and > the matter in question. That matter > is absorbing energy from the incoming 'waves' > of energy all the time by being in sync > with them. Since matter is vibrating > in all directions equally, it absorbs from > all directions equally. > It is possible to control the matter's > vibrations to one plane, instantaneously, > by having all the atoms precess in sync, > which limits the direction of absorption > to the axis of precession, making the > matter "massless" from all other > directions =========================== mass is not caused from anything else!! it is there ever since !! 2 it is the mother of all forces including gravity and if so it is the mother of anything we know 2 the only property of space is to host mass !! ATB Y.Porat ================================================================
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-25 16:21 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version |
| Message-ID | <1ce38eee-7db9-41a7-b3a3-ae2176b0140c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #586554 |
neither one of you has bothered to use Snell's laW, which is the simplest use of the law of sines, other than a/sinA = c/sinC > > by having all the atoms precess in sync, > > which limits the direction of absorption > > to the axis of precession, making the > > matter "massless" from all other > > directions > =========================== > mass is not caused from anything else!! > it is there ever since !! > 2 > it is the mother of all forces including gravity > and if so > it is the mother of anything we know > 2 > the only property of space is to host mass !! > > ATB > Y.Porat > ================================================================
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-25 16:52 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version |
| Message-ID | <ec76bdee-e09e-481d-89e7-6339546b3526@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #586706 |
the actual proof is to construct the diameter from any of the vertices > other than a/sinA = c/sinC
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-26 17:00 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version |
| Message-ID | <bc633509-eb4b-4c63-b80b-59010cf555a6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #586718 |
conventionally, sinC/c = diameter. or some thing; apply to TetrahedronometrY 0.0001 of course, Snell's law is applied to a lino-of-sight, thus substituting a single normal to the wavefront (a "ray > the actual proof is to construct the diameter > from any of the vertices > > > other than a/sinA = c/sinC
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-27 17:13 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version |
| Message-ID | <468f4653-7d15-4b7c-81a4-5118cd166f37@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #586840 |
for a rough, instantaneous average, take the normal ray as a diameter > of course, Snell's law is applied > to a linE-of-sight, > thus substituting a single normal to the wavefront > (a "ray
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| From | "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-28 00:27 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: corpuscles are onion\newty (and Snell's laW is the simplest sine law, other then the law of sines (a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC ... what is the spatial version |
| Message-ID | <d434f12d-3305-4047-a705-a1950cb02073@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #587031 |
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 3:13:59 AM UTC+3, noTthaTguY wrote: > for a rough, instantaneous average, > take the normal ray as a diameter > > > of course, Snell's law is applied > > to a linE-of-sight, > > thus substituting a single normal to the wavefront > > (a "ray ================================ next to human beings !! TIA Y.Porat ========================================
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| From | noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-28 10:54 -0700 |
| Subject | space is free with atoms in it |
| Message-ID | <1682f133-f775-49ce-93c5-c353eeb01a0c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #587084 |
this, if you have a pair of detectors placed diametrically, gives you the average index of refraction, that far into "free space > > for a rough, instantaneous average, > > take the normal ray as a diameter > > > > > of course, Snell's law is applied > > > to a linE-of-sight, > > > thus substituting a single normal to the wavefront > > > (a "ray > ================================ > next to human beings !! > TIA > Y.Porat > ========================================
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