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  For faster battery charging, try a quantum battery? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 18:50 -0500
    Re: For faster battery charging, try a quantum battery? gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-03 21:44 -0500
    Re: For faster battery charging, try a quantum battery? "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 13:48 -0700
      Re: For faster battery charging, try a quantum battery? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:10 -0500
        Re: For faster battery charging, try a quantum battery? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-04 21:35 +0000
        Re: For faster battery charging, try a quantum battery? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 15:03 -0700

#511073 — For faster battery charging, try a quantum battery?

For faster battery charging, try a quantum battery?
> http://phys.org/news/2015-08-faster-battery-quantum.html

> (Phys.org)—Physicists have shown that a quantum battery—basically, a
> quantum system such as a qubit that stores energy in its quantum
> states—can theoretically be charged at a faster rate than
> conventional batteries. This "quantum speedup" arises from quantum
> entanglement among multiple qubits, which essentially provides a
> shortcut between the qubits' uncharged and charged states, allowing
> for faster charging.

> The physicists, Felix C. Binder, et al., have published a paper on
> the quantum battery, which they call "quantacell," in a recent issue
> of the New Journal of Physics.

> "There has been much interest in the question if quantum physics can
> provide any advantage in thermodynamic processes (thermodynamics
> being the study of work and heat and their interconversion)," Binder,
> a physicist at the University of Oxford, told Phys.org. "Our paper
> demonstrates with an example that a significant advantage can indeed
> be achieved when a short process duration is desired—quantum
> correlations ('quantum entanglement') can lead to a significant
> speedup."

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#511094

On 8/3/2015 6:50 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> For faster battery charging, try a quantum battery?
>> http://phys.org/news/2015-08-faster-battery-quantum.html
>
>> (Phys.org)—Physicists have shown that a quantum battery—basically, a
>> quantum system such as a qubit that stores energy in its quantum
>> states—can *theoretically* be charged at a faster rate than
>> conventional batteries. This "quantum speedup" arises from quantum
>> entanglement among multiple qubits, which essentially provides a
>> shortcut between the qubits' uncharged and charged states, allowing
>> for faster charging.

so, how do you hook wires to it ?

and arn't qubits error prone?

  [ theoretically = far out imagination = trolling for funding ]

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#511228

On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 4:50:36 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> For faster battery charging, try a quantum battery?
> > http://phys.org/news/2015-08-faster-battery-quantum.html
> 
> > (Phys.org)--Physicists have shown that a quantum battery--basically, a
> > quantum system such as a qubit that stores energy in its quantum
> > states--can theoretically be charged at a faster rate than
> > conventional batteries. This "quantum speedup" arises from quantum
> > entanglement among multiple qubits, which essentially provides a
> > shortcut between the qubits' uncharged and charged states, allowing
> > for faster charging.
> 
> > The physicists, Felix C. Binder, et al., have published a paper on
> > the quantum battery, which they call "quantacell," in a recent issue
> > of the New Journal of Physics.
> 
> > "There has been much interest in the question if quantum physics can
> > provide any advantage in thermodynamic processes (thermodynamics
> > being the study of work and heat and their interconversion)," Binder,
> > a physicist at the University of Oxford, told Phys.org. "Our paper
> > demonstrates with an example that a significant advantage can indeed
> > be achieved when a short process duration is desired--quantum
> > correlations ('quantum entanglement') can lead to a significant
> > speedup."
> 
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> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> community, and physics-related social issues.

Sam Reality is a 12 volt battery is two 6 volt batterys  Batterys should be in every spare area in an electric car Roof,tires fenders,and seats . All wired in unison. TreBert  Lemon fits for Edsel's TreBert

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#511232

On 8/4/15 3:48 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> Sam Reality is a 12 volt battery is two 6 volt batterys  Batterys should be in every spare area in an electric car Roof,tires fenders,and seats . All wired in unison. TreBert  Lemon fits for Edsel's TreBert

   I don't use lead acid batteries, reber. Almost everything in my Prius
   and electronics is lithium ion, or lithium whatever, or silver oxide.

   Gone are the days of lead acid batteries and alkaline batteries.

   I'm looking forward to the contributions of graphene to capacitors and
   battery technology.


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#511245

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/4/15 3:48 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> Sam Reality is a 12 volt battery is two 6 volt batterys  Batterys should be in every spare area in an electric car Roof,tires fenders,and seats . All wired in unison. TreBert  Lemon fits for Edsel's TreBert
> 
>   I don't use lead acid batteries, reber. Almost everything in my Prius
>   and electronics is lithium ion, or lithium whatever, or silver oxide.
> 
>   Gone are the days of lead acid batteries and alkaline batteries.

Utter nonsense, ass hole.

>   I'm looking forward to the contributions of graphene to capacitors and
>   battery technology.

Hold your breath until that happens, shit head.
 

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#511669

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 2:10:07 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 8/4/15 3:48 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > Sam Reality is a 12 volt battery is two 6 volt batterys  Batterys should be
> > in every spare area in an electric car Roof,tires fenders,and seats . All
> > wired in unison. TreBert  Lemon fits for Edsel's TreBert
> 
>    I don't use lead acid batteries, reber.

  There's that smug superiority of yours overshadowing actual science again, Sam.

  Bert didn't say anything about lead-acid batteries.

  He said that a 12V battery is two 6V batteries, whereas automotive lead-acid batteries comprise six 2V cells in series. If he was talking about car batteries, he was wrong. Offhand I don't know of any commercially available six volt primary cells.

  However, he was right in that every otherwise unused cubic inch of an electric car should be crammed with storage cells of whatever chemistry.

>    Almost everything in my Prius and electronics is lithium ion, or lithium
>    whatever, or silver oxide.

  The HV (main) batteries in the Prius are Ni-MH types.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius#Batteries

  Have you considered the carbon footprint of the production of the lanthanum and neodymium in your Prius, and the materials in the other battery types you mention?

  Lithium in particular is mass-produced by electrolysis of lithium salts.

>    Gone are the days of lead acid batteries and alkaline batteries.

  You do know that modern rechargeable alkaline batteries contain no mercury or cadmium, and are fairly common, don't you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechargeable_alkaline_battery

>    I'm looking forward to the contributions of graphene to capacitors and
>    battery technology.

  Keep looking, because there are severe technological barriers to its adaptation to mass manufacturing.


  Mark L. Fergerson

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