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OT for Some | Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747

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First post2016-02-01 09:29 -0600
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  OT for Some | Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747 Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 09:29 -0600
    Re: OT for Some | Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-01 18:44 +0000
      Re: OT for Some | Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747 shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-01 18:49 +0000
        Re: OT for Some | Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747 R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2016-02-01 19:08 +0000
        Re: OT for Some | Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-01 19:18 +0000
          Re: OT for Some | Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747 shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-01 19:59 +0000
            Re: OT for Some | Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-02-01 20:52 +0000
              Re: OT for Some | Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747 shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-01 22:28 +0000

#549710 — OT for Some | Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-01 09:29 -0600
SubjectOT for Some | Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747
Message-ID<Eq6dnRA3LMVd5DLLnZ2dnUU7-L2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747
> http://phys.org/news/2016-02-sun-boeing.html


> It's difficult to imagine now, in the age of mass global travel, that
> building an aeroplane to carry hundreds of people at a time was once
> seen as a huge risk. But as the world's first wide-body airliner, the
> Boeing 747 went on to change not only aviation but the entire tourism
> industry. Its economic design did much to move international travel
> within reach of middle-class holiday goers rather than just the
> privileged few.



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#549750

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-02-01 18:44 +0000
Message-ID<4ml4oc-c5s.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#549710
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747

You mean other than it is a 50 year old design and today's market is
mainly in smaller, more efficient aircraft?


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Jim Pennino

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#549752

Fromshan <shan@enterapps.org>
Date2016-02-01 18:49 +0000
Message-ID<n8o9c9$vpq$6@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#549750
jimp wrote:

> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747
> 
> You mean other than it is a 50 year old design and today's market is
> mainly in smaller, more efficient aircraft?

Airbus is larger, if I'm not mistaken.

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#549764

FromR Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com>
Date2016-02-01 19:08 +0000
Message-ID<n8oafu$jcq$1@odin.sdf-eu.org>
In reply to#549752
shan <shan@enterapps.org> wrote:
> jimp wrote:
>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747
>> You mean other than it is a 50 year old design and today's market is
>> mainly in smaller, more efficient aircraft?
> Airbus is larger, if I'm not mistaken. 

The 747-8 is 4m longer and has a 400 nm  greater range than the 380.
Lufthansa manages to cram 526 seats into an airbus while
the '8 at the same density has space for only 467.
The Boeing has 30% more cargo space than the airbus but
I don't know how that translates to payload.


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#549772

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-02-01 19:18 +0000
Message-ID<8ln4oc-jcs.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#549752
shan <shan@enterapps.org> wrote:
> jimp wrote:
> 
>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Why the sun is setting on the Boeing 747
>> 
>> You mean other than it is a 50 year old design and today's market is
>> mainly in smaller, more efficient aircraft?
> 
> Airbus is larger, if I'm not mistaken. 

Airbus is a company.

The Airbus A380 is currently the world's largest passenger airliner.

Though the design is only about 15 years old, sales are declining for
the same reasons as the 747.



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Jim Pennino

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#549788

Fromshan <shan@enterapps.org>
Date2016-02-01 19:59 +0000
Message-ID<n8odfm$193a$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#549772
jimp wrote:

>>> You mean other than it is a 50 year old design and today's market is
>>> mainly in smaller, more efficient aircraft?
>> 
>> Airbus is larger, if I'm not mistaken.
> 
> Airbus is a company.
> 
> The Airbus A380 is currently the world's largest passenger airliner.
> 
> Though the design is only about 15 years old, sales are declining for
> the same reasons as the 747.

Not larger than TU-something, right. Tupolev is still the largest, but 
probably grounded for obvious reasons, large, old.

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#549798

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-02-01 20:52 +0000
Message-ID<05t4oc-tts.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#549788
shan <shan@enterapps.org> wrote:
> jimp wrote:
> 
>>>> You mean other than it is a 50 year old design and today's market is
>>>> mainly in smaller, more efficient aircraft?
>>> 
>>> Airbus is larger, if I'm not mistaken.
>> 
>> Airbus is a company.
>> 
>> The Airbus A380 is currently the world's largest passenger airliner.
>> 
>> Though the design is only about 15 years old, sales are declining for
>> the same reasons as the 747.
> 
> Not larger than TU-something, right. Tupolev is still the largest, but 
> probably grounded for obvious reasons, large, old.

Are you refering to the Antonov An-225?

It is concidered the largest airplane but it is a strategic airlifter,
not a passenger airliner.

See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_large_aircraft

Things are slightly muddled by which definition of "largest" you use;
size, maximum takeoff weight, number of passengers.


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Jim Pennino

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#549820

Fromshan <shan@enterapps.org>
Date2016-02-01 22:28 +0000
Message-ID<n8om6h$1otv$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#549798
jimp wrote:

> shan <shan@enterapps.org> wrote:
>> jimp wrote:
>> 
>>>>> You mean other than it is a 50 year old design and today's market is
>>>>> mainly in smaller, more efficient aircraft?
>>>> 
>>>> Airbus is larger, if I'm not mistaken.
>>> 
>>> Airbus is a company.
>>> 
>>> The Airbus A380 is currently the world's largest passenger airliner.
>>> 
>>> Though the design is only about 15 years old, sales are declining for
>>> the same reasons as the 747.
>> 
>> Not larger than TU-something, right. Tupolev is still the largest, but
>> probably grounded for obvious reasons, large, old.
> 
> Are you refering to the Antonov An-225?
> 
> It is concidered the largest airplane but it is a strategic airlifter,
> not a passenger airliner.
> 
> See:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_large_aircraft
> 
> Things are slightly muddled by which definition of "largest" you use;
> size, maximum takeoff weight, number of passengers.

Oh yeah, my bad, I thought it was a TU. An AN, Antonov ... However, I 
think their Ekranoplan is even larger, but it can't fly high.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspian_Sea_Monster

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