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When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis'

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First post2016-05-27 16:50 -0500
Last post2016-05-29 13:47 -0700
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  When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 16:50 -0500
    Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-28 00:29 +0000
      Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-28 16:40 -0700
        Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-28 20:27 -0400
        Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-29 11:03 -0500
          Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-29 09:09 -0700
    Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-27 21:30 -0500
      Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-27 23:58 -0400
        Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 05:00 -0700
          Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-28 11:18 -0400
            Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 08:40 -0700
              Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-28 12:04 -0400
                Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-28 15:22 -0500
                  Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-05-28 21:31 +0000
                    Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-05-28 18:21 -0500
                    Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-28 16:33 -0700
                  Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-28 18:33 -0400
            Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-29 11:31 -0500
              Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-29 13:47 -0700
        Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-29 11:26 -0500
      Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' ClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> - 2016-05-29 11:25 -0500
        Re: When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis' "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-29 13:47 -0700

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#581089 — When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis'

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-27 16:50 -0500
SubjectWhen Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis'
Message-ID<vfednaNaS66HXNXKnZ2dnUU7-IednZ2d@giganews.com>
When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis'
> http://www.npr.org/2016/05/24/477921050/when-great-minds-think-unlike-inside-sciences-replication-crisis


> After following the steps of the original scientists—recruiting
> subjects, administering tests, running statistical analyses—they came
> up with an unsettling figure: just 39 of the 100 experiments they ran
> produced the same results as in the originals. In other words, nearly
> two-thirds of psychology studies—on topics ranging from fear to
> teaching math—failed to replicate.
>
> The so-called "crisis" seemed to be rejected as soon as it was
> declared with a swell of articles coming to psychology's defense with
> headlines like "Failure Is Moving Science Forwards," "The Crisis In
> Social Psychology That Isn't," and, most bluntly, "Psychology Is Not
> In Crisis."
>
> What's going on? This week, Hidden Brain looks at the "replication
> crisis" through zooming in on one seminal paper that was the focus of
> two replication efforts: one succeeded in replicating the original
> finding, the other failed.



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#581121

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-05-28 00:29 +0000
Message-ID<pb5n1d-58s.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#581089
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis'

So what the fuck does psychology have to do with physics, shit head?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#581339

FromRichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com>
Date2016-05-28 16:40 -0700
Message-ID<1d0163fb-b8fd-4d85-ad76-f5725e80ba26@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#581121
On May 27,  ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis'
> 
> So what the fuck does psychology have to do with physics, shit head?

Them physicists are hominids, hence inclined to herd behavior, not to mention...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8P80A8vy9I



--
Rich

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#581358

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-05-28 20:27 -0400
Message-ID<574a375e$0$48764$b1db1813$e2fc9064@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#581339
On 05/28/2016 07:40 PM, RichD wrote:
> On May 27,  ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis'
>>
>> So what the fuck does psychology have to do with physics, shit head?
>
> Them physicists are hominids, hence inclined to herd behavior, not to mention...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8P80A8vy9I


I heard that life is a cabaret, my friend.

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#581469

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-05-29 11:03 -0500
Message-ID<xxriqjtta25j.jhudx09mbo9q.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#581339
On Sat, 28 May 2016 16:40:18 -0700 (PDT), RichD wrote:

> On May 27,  ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis'
>> 
>> So what the fuck does psychology have to do with physics, shit head?
> 
> Them physicists are hominids, hence inclined to herd behavior, not to mention...
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8P80A8vy9I
> 

Cold war shit again.. Sick of it then, still sick of
it now. 

-- 
    "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And 
     have a good laugh when it seeps down on 
     your face."
                            - Bert

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#581474

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-05-29 09:09 -0700
Message-ID<nif44g$mp2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#581469
"ClutterFreak" <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com> wrote:
> Cold war shit again.. Sick of it then, still sick of it now. 
> -- 
>    "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And 
>     have a good laugh when it seeps down on 
>     your face."
>                            - Bert
> 
hanson wrote:
Mehram, yesterday when you posted right after you took
your anti-psychotic meds you had  a brief period of lucidity
as is seen when you signed off on your few posts with
--
"My country is the country in which I can work for Iran."
                          - Ehsan Yarshater
>
So, Mehran, THAT was commendable, you standing up for 
your Iranian interests.... but apparently the grip of  the 
clutches from.by the dying & deranged 88 year old Jew 
<herbertglazier0@gmail.com> Glazier proved stronger...
>
Mehram, given your post-op state which you so proudly
posted in <http://tinyurl.com/Maleki-the-TG-Girl> it is a
shame that all your submissive love (a Muslim trait)  and 
your sacrifices that you made for Jew Glazier has not
even earned you single word of thanks from him. Pity...
... but thanks for the laughs.... ahahahahahanson

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#581131

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-05-27 21:30 -0500
Message-ID<niavtb$eck$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#581089
On 5/27/2016 4:50 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis'
>> http://www.npr.org/2016/05/24/477921050/when-great-minds-think-unlike-inside-sciences-replication-crisis
>>
>
>
>> After following the steps of the original scientists—recruiting
>> subjects, administering tests, running statistical analyses—they came
>> up with an unsettling figure: just 39 of the 100 experiments they ran
>> produced the same results as in the originals. \


    just like Global Worming "scientists"

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#581135

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-05-27 23:58 -0400
Message-ID<57491759$0$63797$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#581131
On 05/27/2016 10:30 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 5/27/2016 4:50 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> When Great Minds Think Unlike: Inside Science's 'Replication Crisis'
>>> http://www.npr.org/2016/05/24/477921050/when-great-minds-think-unlike-inside-sciences-replication-crisis
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> After following the steps of the original scientists—recruiting
>>> subjects, administering tests, running statistical analyses—they came
>>> up with an unsettling figure: just 39 of the 100 experiments they ran
>>> produced the same results as in the originals. \
>
>
>     just like Global Worming "scientists"
>

Sammy doesn't realize that psychology isn't really a science. It's still 
a "discipline" So no wonder the experiments are shit and not repeatable. 
Sam is impressed with all non-sciences. That's why he's such a stanch 
warmist. HVAC is into psychology too, which is why you can't ever get 
him to discuss any science. If ever there was proof that psychology is 
NOT a science, HVAC is it.

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#581161

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-28 05:00 -0700
Message-ID<a0b6920e-b759-462f-a8f9-8faee552fb0c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#581135
BJ quacked
Sammy doesn't realize that psychology isn't really a science. It's still 
a "discipline" So no wonder the experiments are shit and not repeatable. 
Sam is impressed with all non-sciences. That's why he's such a stanch 
warmist. HVAC is into psychology too, which is why you can't ever get 
him to discuss any science. If ever there was proof that psychology is 
NOT a science, HVAC is it. 
------------

Of course by 'science', BJ means his brand of science which includes ghosts, esp and Velikovskian orbital mechanics.

The reality is that I am far better educated and trained in all disciplines of science than BJ is...Even tho I don't have a self made business card saying 'scientist'.

(Now don't get mad BJ)

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#581213

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-05-28 11:18 -0400
Message-ID<5749b6b8$0$64969$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#581161
On 05/28/2016 08:00 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> Sammy doesn't realize that psychology isn't really a science. It's still
> a "discipline" So no wonder the experiments are shit and not repeatable.
> Sam is impressed with all non-sciences. That's why he's such a stanch
> warmist. HVAC is into psychology too, which is why you can't ever get
> him to discuss any science. If ever there was proof that psychology is
> NOT a science, HVAC is it.
> ------------
>
> Of course by 'science', BJ means his brand of science which includes ghosts, esp and Velikovskian orbital mechanics.
>
> The reality is that I am far better educated and trained in all disciplines of science than BJ is...Even tho I don't have a self made business card saying 'scientist'.
>
> (Now don't get mad BJ)

Why can't you even mention where you went to school, what you studied, 
what your favorite subjects were, what degrees you earned or for that 
matter why not tell us how many honorary degrees you hold?

It's pretty clear that just because you SAY you are wonderful and 
intelligent given the total lack of evidence of same, it's just hot air. 
HVAC hopes you will repeat how educated and knowledgeable he is without 
stopping to remember that the place you heard it was from HIM.

Still believe in "Venusians"? Velikovsky predicted molten lead on Venus. 
What did they teach you in school?

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#581228

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-28 08:40 -0700
Message-ID<00b37442-940a-4a53-9e43-691e52592496@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#581213
BJ quacked
> (Now don't get mad BJ) 

Why can't you even mention where you went to school, what you studied, 
what your favorite subjects were, what degrees you earned or for that 
matter why not tell us how many honorary degrees you hold? 

It's pretty clear that just because you SAY you are wonderful and 
intelligent given the total lack of evidence of same, it's just hot air. 
HVAC hopes you will repeat how educated and knowledgeable he is without 
stopping to remember that the place you heard it was from HIM. 

Still believe in "Venusians"? Velikovsky predicted molten lead on Venus. 
What did they teach you in school?
-----------

Yep, as I predicted, BJ got mad.

Velikovsky and his crackpot ideas are a hot button issue for BJ. Every time the topic is brought up, BBJ goes all mental. I wonder if I should rip that band aid off and see exactly WHY BJ is so defensive regarding Velikovsky...Nah. It's memorial day weekend. I don't want BJ to bust an aneurysm 

Hope you have a great holiday weekend BJ!

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#581238

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-05-28 12:04 -0400
Message-ID<5749c197$0$27697$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#581228
On 05/28/2016 11:40 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
>> (Now don't get mad BJ)
>
> Why can't you even mention where you went to school, what you studied,
> what your favorite subjects were, what degrees you earned or for that
> matter why not tell us how many honorary degrees you hold?
>
> It's pretty clear that just because you SAY you are wonderful and
> intelligent given the total lack of evidence of same, it's just hot air.
> HVAC hopes you will repeat how educated and knowledgeable he is without
> stopping to remember that the place you heard it was from HIM.
>
> Still believe in "Venusians"? Velikovsky predicted molten lead on Venus.
> What did they teach you in school?
> -----------
>
> Yep, as I predicted, BJ got mad.
>
> Velikovsky and his crackpot ideas are a hot button issue for BJ. Every time the topic is brought up, BBJ goes all mental. I wonder if I should rip that band aid off and see exactly WHY BJ is so defensive regarding Velikovsky...Nah. It's memorial day weekend. I don't want BJ to bust an aneurysm
>
> Hope you have a great holiday weekend BJ!
>
No answer to Venus questions noted.

HVAC doesn't do facts.

Hey, do have a nice holiday HVAC.

(We are like lawyers, we lie like mad about each other but really we are 
colleagues and great pals out of court. Getting mad is for amateurs)

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#581286

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-05-28 15:22 -0500
Message-ID<nicumj$urb$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#581238
On 5/28/2016 11:04 AM, benj wrote:
> On 05/28/2016 11:40 AM, HVAC wrote:
>> BJ quacked
>>> (Now don't get mad BJ)
>>
>> Why can't you even mention where you went to school, what you studied,
>> what your favorite subjects were, what degrees you earned or for that
>> matter why not tell us how many honorary degrees you hold?

>> Still believe in "Venusians"? Velikovsky predicted molten lead on Venus.
>> What did they teach you in school?
>> -----------


>> Velikovsky and his crackpot ideas are a hot button issue for BJ. Every
>> time the topic is brought up, BBJ goes all mental. I wonder if I
>> should rip that band aid off and see exactly WHY BJ is so defensive
>> regarding Velikovsky...Nah. It's memorial day weekend. I don't want BJ
>> to bust an aneurysm
>>
>> Hope you have a great holiday weekend BJ!
>>
> No answer to Venus questions noted.
>
> HVAC doesn't do facts.
>
> Hey, do have a nice holiday HVAC.
>
> (We are like lawyers, we lie like mad about each other but really we are
> colleagues and great pals out of court. Getting mad is for amateurs)


some places don't have any schools, or colleges... like that area in 
Russia where there are no lights at night, and also North Korea, I have 
never met any degreed person from North Korea.

and some college have majors where you don't learn anything anyway like 
Journalism.

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#581308

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-05-28 21:31 +0000
Message-ID<8bfp1d-8j6.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#581286
Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 5/28/2016 11:04 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 05/28/2016 11:40 AM, HVAC wrote:
>>> BJ quacked
>>>> (Now don't get mad BJ)
>>>
>>> Why can't you even mention where you went to school, what you studied,
>>> what your favorite subjects were, what degrees you earned or for that
>>> matter why not tell us how many honorary degrees you hold?
> 
>>> Still believe in "Venusians"? Velikovsky predicted molten lead on Venus.
>>> What did they teach you in school?
>>> -----------
> 
> 
>>> Velikovsky and his crackpot ideas are a hot button issue for BJ. Every
>>> time the topic is brought up, BBJ goes all mental. I wonder if I
>>> should rip that band aid off and see exactly WHY BJ is so defensive
>>> regarding Velikovsky...Nah. It's memorial day weekend. I don't want BJ
>>> to bust an aneurysm
>>>
>>> Hope you have a great holiday weekend BJ!
>>>
>> No answer to Venus questions noted.
>>
>> HVAC doesn't do facts.
>>
>> Hey, do have a nice holiday HVAC.
>>
>> (We are like lawyers, we lie like mad about each other but really we are
>> colleagues and great pals out of court. Getting mad is for amateurs)
> 
> 
> some places don't have any schools, or colleges... like that area in 
> Russia where there are no lights at night, and also North Korea, I have 
> never met any degreed person from North Korea.

Have you ever met ANYONE from North Korea?

North Korea has over 300 colleges.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#581332

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-05-28 18:21 -0500
Message-ID<nid96u$1ch3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#581308
On 5/28/2016 4:31 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 5/28/2016 11:04 AM, benj wrote:
>>> On 05/28/2016 11:40 AM, HVAC wrote:
>>>> BJ quacked
>>>>> (Now don't get mad BJ)
>>>>
>>>> Why can't you even mention where you went to school, what you studied,
>>>> what your favorite subjects were, what degrees you earned or for that
>>>> matter why not tell us how many honorary degrees you hold?
>>
>>>> Still believe in "Venusians"? Velikovsky predicted molten lead on Venus.
>>>> What did they teach you in school?
>>>> -----------
>>

>>> (We are like lawyers, we lie like mad about each other but really we are
>>> colleagues and great pals out of court. Getting mad is for amateurs)
>>
>>
>> some places don't have any schools, or colleges... like that area in
>> Russia where there are no lights at night, and also North Korea, I have
>> never met any degreed person from North Korea.
>
> Have you ever met ANYONE from North Korea?

nope, not a one.

>
> North Korea has over 300 colleges.

bet they have major Physics degrees if they are building Nuclear things.

They have potential, South Korea is a powerhouse in electronics

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#581336

FromRichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com>
Date2016-05-28 16:33 -0700
Message-ID<9f95ac5b-0586-459f-9d43-632a5582e261@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#581308
On May 28, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Have you ever met ANYONE from North Korea?
> North Korea has over 300 colleges.

Marxist economics is a popular major - and the Obamarx 
Dept. of Indoctrination, er I mean Edjication, finds that 
mighty inspiring - 

--
Rich

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#581322

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-05-28 18:33 -0400
Message-ID<574a1cd7$0$38700$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#581286
On 05/28/2016 04:22 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 5/28/2016 11:04 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 05/28/2016 11:40 AM, HVAC wrote:
>>> BJ quacked
>>>> (Now don't get mad BJ)
>>>
>>> Why can't you even mention where you went to school, what you studied,
>>> what your favorite subjects were, what degrees you earned or for that
>>> matter why not tell us how many honorary degrees you hold?
>
>>> Still believe in "Venusians"? Velikovsky predicted molten lead on Venus.
>>> What did they teach you in school?
>>> -----------
>
>
>>> Velikovsky and his crackpot ideas are a hot button issue for BJ. Every
>>> time the topic is brought up, BBJ goes all mental. I wonder if I
>>> should rip that band aid off and see exactly WHY BJ is so defensive
>>> regarding Velikovsky...Nah. It's memorial day weekend. I don't want BJ
>>> to bust an aneurysm
>>>
>>> Hope you have a great holiday weekend BJ!
>>>
>> No answer to Venus questions noted.
>>
>> HVAC doesn't do facts.
>>
>> Hey, do have a nice holiday HVAC.
>>
>> (We are like lawyers, we lie like mad about each other but really we are
>> colleagues and great pals out of court. Getting mad is for amateurs)
>
>
> some places don't have any schools, or colleges... like that area in
> Russia where there are no lights at night, and also North Korea, I have
> never met any degreed person from North Korea.
>
> and some college have majors where you don't learn anything anyway like
> Journalism.

They learn how to lie and make it believable to the Goy.

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#581479

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-05-29 11:31 -0500
Message-ID<2fl6so0d99uj$.jec9w52rhnr4$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#581213
On Sat, 28 May 2016 11:18:15 -0400, benj wrote:

> Why can't you even mention where you went to school, what you studied, 
> what your favorite subjects were, what degrees you earned or for that 
> matter

Too late for hvac. No? He fucked it up by misbehaving
all the time under his other alias. Imprisoned by his
own acts :) What a fool. 
-- 
    "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And 
     have a good laugh when it seeps down on 
     your face."
                            - Bert

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#581560

From"hanson" <hanson@quick.net>
Date2016-05-29 13:47 -0700
Message-ID<nifkmi$6vu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#581479
"<clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> "ClutterFreak",
aka Mehram Maleki the Iranian USA hater 
> is Imprisoned by his own acts... keeping busy with 
laying himself UNDER Bert Glazier's Sphincter 
for getting & eating
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg
>
> What a fool...  that Maleki is still under the control 
of the  88 year old Jew <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> 
Bert Glazier, who has never given Maleki even a
single word of thanks for Maleki's labor. Pity...
... but thanks for the laughs.... ahahahahahanson
ROTFLMAO

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#581477

FromClutterFreak <ClutterFreak@FakeAddress.com>
Date2016-05-29 11:26 -0500
Message-ID<1wf0pd0lfo3jv.586aiqo0s41l$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#581135
On Fri, 27 May 2016 23:58:16 -0400, benj wrote:

> HVAC is into psychology too, which is why you can't ever get 
> him to discuss any science.

He used to do a little bit of that under his other
alias till he got sicker. 
-- 
    "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And 
     have a good laugh when it seeps down on 
     your face."
                            - Bert

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