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Rooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines

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First post2016-04-17 20:02 -0500
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  Rooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 20:02 -0500
    Re: Rooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-18 01:19 +0000
    Re: Rooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-04-17 22:41 -0400
      Re: Rooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-04-19 00:23 -0400
    Re: Rooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-17 22:15 -0500

#571249 — Rooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-17 20:02 -0500
SubjectRooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines
Message-ID<J_WdnS2mqvKGr4nKnZ2dnUU7-eWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Rooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines
> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/cloudy-places-could-be-solar-gold-mines-20253


> Nestled on the eastern shore of Lake Erie, Buffalo is considered one
> of the cloudiest, dreariest cities in the U.S. — not exactly the
> first place many people consider prime real estate for solar power
> development. But Buffalonians have good reason to be excited about
> rooftop solar, and not just because a solar panel factory is creating
> jobs.
>
> Buffalo and some other cloudy northeastern cities have the potential
> to satisfy more than half of their electricity needs if their roofs
> were fully covered in solar panels —  as much as 68 percent of
> electric power demand in Buffalo’s case, according to National
> Renewable Energy Laboratory research published in March.




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#571251

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-18 01:19 +0000
Message-ID<8apduc-ns2.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#571249
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines

For fast talking solar power installers.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#571252

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2016-04-17 22:41 -0400
Message-ID<98i8hbpfdikgdqme2ok2a76p55na4dn3di@4ax.com>
In reply to#571249
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 20:02:19 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

>Rooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines
>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/cloudy-places-could-be-solar-gold-mines-20253
>
>
>> Nestled on the eastern shore of Lake Erie, Buffalo is considered one
>> of the cloudiest, dreariest cities in the U.S. — not exactly the
>> first place many people consider prime real estate for solar power
>> development. But Buffalonians have good reason to be excited about
>> rooftop solar, and not just because a solar panel factory is creating
>> jobs.
>>
>> Buffalo and some other cloudy northeastern cities have the potential
>> to satisfy more than half of their electricity needs if their roofs
>> were fully covered in solar panels —  as much as 68 percent of
>> electric power demand in Buffalo’s case, according to National
>> Renewable Energy Laboratory research published in March.

Let's not forget your sig:

>sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>community, and physics-related social issues.

There is no mention of a payback period in your link.

Why do you think that is?

Please discuss.

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#571498

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2016-04-19 00:23 -0400
Message-ID<vgcbhb1s6a2edqall8jfmqsmh6bph96bai@4ax.com>
In reply to#571252
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 22:41:34 -0400, Wally W. wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 20:02:19 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>>Rooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines
>>> http://www.climatecentral.org/news/cloudy-places-could-be-solar-gold-mines-20253
>>
>>
>>> Nestled on the eastern shore of Lake Erie, Buffalo is considered one
>>> of the cloudiest, dreariest cities in the U.S. — not exactly the
>>> first place many people consider prime real estate for solar power
>>> development. But Buffalonians have good reason to be excited about
>>> rooftop solar, and not just because a solar panel factory is creating
>>> jobs.
>>>
>>> Buffalo and some other cloudy northeastern cities have the potential
>>> to satisfy more than half of their electricity needs if their roofs
>>> were fully covered in solar panels —  as much as 68 percent of
>>> electric power demand in Buffalo’s case, according to National
>>> Renewable Energy Laboratory research published in March.
>
>Let's not forget your sig:
>
>>sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>>to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>>community, and physics-related social issues.
>
>There is no mention of a payback period in your link.
>
>Why do you think that is?
>
>Please discuss.


I thought of you when I read this, Sam:

:>Newsgroups: comp.programming
:>Subject: Re: Read more, it is a happy day !
:>Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 14:44:02 +0100
:>Message-ID: <nf2o4o$gcv$2@dont-email.me>

:> Usenet is not a write-only medium.

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#571258

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-04-17 22:15 -0500
Message-ID<nf1ji1$ubg$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#571249
On 4/17/2016 8:02 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Rooftops in Cloudy Places Could Be Solar Gold Mines

>
>
>> Nestled on the eastern shore of Lake Erie, Buffalo is considered one
>> of the cloudiest, dreariest cities in the U.S. — not exactly the
>> first place many people consider prime real estate for solar power
>> development. But Buffalonians have good reason to be excited about
>> rooftop solar, and not just because a solar panel factory is creating
>> jobs.
>>
>> Buffalo and some other cloudy northeastern cities have the potential
>> to satisfy more than half of their electricity needs if their roofs
>> were fully covered in solar panels —  as much as 68 percent of
>> electric power demand in Buffalo’s case, according to National
>> Renewable Energy Laboratory research published in March.

however non tracking panels reduce power by 50%, and non-south lattitude 
orentation reduce output to less than 25% of what is possable.

the photo shows panels being installed flat with the roof line, which is 
very inefficient.

Also the cost of just installing the pannels exceeds the cost of the 
pannels making payback time over 10 years.

Additionally, Solar panels will have to be replaced every 30 years. (US 
Gov says that)

Making solar panels requires very toxic materials, and huge amounts of 
water.

The amount of cost put into the panel will never be recovered by the 
electricity it generates.

Pannels are more efficient when put into large fields and track sun, 
where installation costs are minimized.


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