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| First post | 2025-10-30 08:53 -0400 |
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Re: How Time Travel is probable JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 08:53 -0400
Re: How Time Travel is probable Nathan Smith <nathansmith@posteo.com> - 2025-10-30 08:49 -0600
Re: How Time Travel is probable JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 16:20 -0400
Re: How Time Travel is probable x <x@x.org> - 2025-10-30 16:29 -0700
Re: How Time Travel is probable JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 00:32 -0400
Re: How Time Travel is probable x <x@x.org> - 2025-10-31 14:19 -0700
Re: How Time Travel is probable JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 17:35 -0400
Re: How Time Travel is probable Nathan Smith <nathansmith@posteo.com> - 2025-10-30 23:06 -0600
Re: How Time Travel is probable JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 06:16 -0400
| From | JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 08:53 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: How Time Travel is probable |
| Message-ID | <10dvn44$3ma52$2@dont-email.me> |
On 10/30/25 8:35 AM, Nathan Smith wrote:
> JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> You schizophrenics are often plagued by audio hallucinations. Yes.
>> Now STOP using your extensive list of mental disorders as an
>> excuse and get specific...
> Yes, I do get audio hallucinations. Mostly random shit, sometimes
I told you: STOP using it as an excuse! You want to pretend to
find fault in what I said. So, be specific. Explain WHAT you find
fault in, specifically.
>> Own your disordered ass, or I will.
> I am glad I am autistic
So am I. It makes it easier to rip you apart. If you realized that
here on usenet you are nothing but your words, and you can choose
to be a raving lunatic or a rational human being, it would be far
more difficult to humiliate you. Thankfully, you don't seem to
know that choosing to type out reasonable, rational comments is
an option.
....like the way you avoid identifying anything specific that
you want to dispute.
> Have you ever wondered if your the issue?
No. Impossible. You never once even stated WHAT you're disagreeing
with!
--
https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
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| From | Nathan Smith <nathansmith@posteo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 08:49 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <87ms58la0q.fsf@posteo.com> |
| In reply to | #894487 |
JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> writes: > On 10/30/25 8:35 AM, Nathan Smith wrote: > >> JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> writes: > ....like the way you avoid identifying anything specific that > you want to dispute. Your a ableist fuck and I hope you get raped in the eye sockets by someone with AIDs.
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| From | JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 16:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10e0ha9$3vi18$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #894488 |
On 10/30/25 10:49 AM, Nathan Smith wrote: > Your a ableist fuck and Oh. So you need the world to bend a knee every time you tie on your crazy. No. You are in control of yourself. It's always your choice. Post intelligent, rational things and you are intelligent & rational. It's that simple. Stop making yourself out to be a needy, crazy fuck. Make a different reality. Because you own your disordered ass. -- https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
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| From | x <x@x.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 16:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10e0sdn$2uhn$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #894489 |
On 10/30/25 13:20, JTEM wrote: > On 10/30/25 10:49 AM, Nathan Smith wrote: > >> Your a ableist fuck and > > Oh. So you need the world to bend a knee every time you tie > on your crazy. > > No. You are in control of yourself. It's always your choice. > Post intelligent, rational things and you are intelligent & > rational. It's that simple. > > Stop making yourself out to be a needy, crazy fuck. > > Make a different reality. Because you own your disordered ass. Yes everyone has a different viewpoint of what they consider to be 'rational or 'sane'. It is not just true ideas and good habits anymore. Generally what is considered 'true' is cool looking sounds and images on televisions and radios and what is considered 'false' is something 'boring' like writing or text. Let's face it. Usenet is generally free if you don't want images or sound. But people only want images and sound. Strangely enough that is what they consider to be 'true'. But that is really out of it. > > >
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| From | JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-31 00:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10e1e4t$78ij$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #894490 |
On 10/30/25 7:29 PM, x wrote: > On 10/30/25 13:20, JTEM wrote: >> On 10/30/25 10:49 AM, Nathan Smith wrote: >> >>> Your a ableist fuck and >> >> Oh. So you need the world to bend a knee every time you tie >> on your crazy. >> >> No. You are in control of yourself. It's always your choice. >> Post intelligent, rational things and you are intelligent & >> rational. It's that simple. >> >> Stop making yourself out to be a needy, crazy fuck. >> >> Make a different reality. Because you own your disordered ass. > Yes everyone has a different viewpoint of what they > consider to be 'rational or 'sane'. Not really. No. If you're not interested in a topic or the poster, don't read it. Acting out like a disordered child is never a rational or sane choice. People shouldn't be triggered by the fact that if faster than light particles exist, they allow for messages to be sent backwards through time. -- https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
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| From | x <x@x.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-31 14:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10e395r$q05o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #894491 |
On 10/30/25 21:32, JTEM wrote: > On 10/30/25 7:29 PM, x wrote: >> On 10/30/25 13:20, JTEM wrote: >>> On 10/30/25 10:49 AM, Nathan Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Your a ableist fuck and >>> >>> Oh. So you need the world to bend a knee every time you tie >>> on your crazy. >>> >>> No. You are in control of yourself. It's always your choice. >>> Post intelligent, rational things and you are intelligent & >>> rational. It's that simple. >>> >>> Stop making yourself out to be a needy, crazy fuck. >>> >>> Make a different reality. Because you own your disordered ass. > >> Yes everyone has a different viewpoint of what they >> consider to be 'rational or 'sane'. > > Not really. No. If you're not interested in a topic or the > poster, don't read it. Acting out like a disordered child is > never a rational or sane choice. I do not believe in the religion, belief system, or pseudoscience known of as 'psychology'. Psyche was the wife of Cupid in the Greco-Roman religion. The word 'psyche' has also been translated as meaning 'soul'. However the article of faith of the belief system known of as 'psychology' is neither that souls exist and can be studied nor the worship of the Greco-Roman personage. Rather it is that minds undergo a health or disease process similar to the bodies of plants and animals. In other words 'mental health' and 'mental disease' are valid concepts. Now it is a religion that generally caters to what is known of as 'atheism'. The word 'atheism' generally has word origins not 'from god' but rather 'no god'. However atheists generally do not clearly specify the god they do not believe in. They also tend to be devoid of something called 'theology' in their denials. They also tend to try to monopolize their concept of 'rationality', by claiming that 'sanity' is 'rational' and 'insanity' is 'not rational'. They however tossed out the idea that 'truth' and 'falseness' or good habits and bad habits are the basis for 'sanity' long ago. They have the false belief that they did not transition from science to religion when they did that. As for 'children' or 'rationality' there are different degrees of that. Anyway I did not see the complete thread until now when I see it in another usenet group. As for this other guy, I am thinking that he is probably seriously harmed by advocating the religion or pseudoscience known of as 'psychology'. I would say that a likely good route away from this harm could be 'Christian Science', but perhaps there could be others. Some things people have to do for themselves. As for you, I think that in general time travel as you have mentioned it (other than the progression that people may experience if they are not moving at near light speeds) is speculative. I have not figured out how to set up 'killfiles'. There is of course all sorts of junk in many places. Being able to see some defecant in one's path may help you to avoid stepping in it, however organic material may be a significant percentage of the composition of 'soil' or 'dirt' anyway. (Like derived from bird droppings or worm output over the course of months or years.) > ... > People shouldn't be triggered by the fact that if faster than > light particles exist, they allow for messages to be sent > backwards through time. There are an array of different science fiction stories. I remember that 'In Search Of' with Leonard Nemoy in it where he showed something like a fossil (jellyfish) that looked like a cylindrical battery. Nonetheless if that were too easily or commonly done in the future at some point, then the net result might be something like - 'yea everyone sees time travel events all the time ... so what? Why should I care since everybody sees them every now and then anyway?' Of course if the message gets garbled upon transit (information sent versus received (Information Theory definitions of entropy)) then the net result can be the equal of - no message sent.
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| From | JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-31 17:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10e3a35$qfel$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #894496 |
On 10/31/25 5:19 PM, x wrote: > As for you, I think that in general time travel as you > have mentioned it (other than the progression that people > may experience if they are not moving at near light speeds) > is speculative. The time travel isn't speculative. You deconstructed the problem wrong. What is "Speculative" would be the faster-than-light particles. The backwards time travel would be an inescapable fact of moving faster than time, not speculation. As for the speculation regarding faster-than-light particles... There is some evidence for their existence, though clearly not at the level of "Compelling." -- https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
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| From | Nathan Smith <nathansmith@posteo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 23:06 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <87bjln3bj3.fsf@posteo.com> |
| In reply to | #894490 |
x <x@x.org> writes: > Usenet is generally free if you don't want images or sound. But > people only want images and sound. Strangely enough that is what they > consider to be 'true'. What I consider to be true is A: nothing, B: something I read in a Kurt Vonnegut book I found interesting. What the general population considers to be true is what you just said. What most people consider true and what some people tightly hold onto is social constructs. They insist that these ideas one of them came up with once is not just a concept but a objective law of reality. Their ideas are hard as rock and exist in a static state but the world does not so they shape the world to that image. If something they consider true isn't true they will make it true. If they one day decide every cow is green they will be very quick to formulate and execute a plan to turn every cow green instead of change their world view.
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| From | JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-31 06:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10e22ao$cf8n$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #894492 |
Nathan Smith wrote: > What I consider to be true So you... don't consider time to be true? You don't consider photons to be true? You don't consider the fact that a faster-than-light particle would move backwards in time to be true? -- https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
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