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| Started by | Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> |
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| First post | 2025-12-18 15:18 -0900 |
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Coefficients for actual spring-mass-damper system Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> - 2025-12-18 15:18 -0900
Re: Coefficients for actual spring-mass-damper system John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2025-12-18 19:29 -0600
Re: Coefficients for actual spring-mass-damper system John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2025-12-19 08:17 -0600
| From | Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-18 15:18 -0900 |
| Subject | Coefficients for actual spring-mass-damper system |
| Message-ID | <87a4zf2uk5.fsf@librehacker.com> |
Hi, I am playing around with model spring-mass-damper systems on my analog computer. I was wanting, for comparison purposes, to make an actual system with a spring and a mass. But I am a little confused how I would know what the damping coefficient and spring coefficient is for any given spring, as that doesn't seem to be listed for any springs I can purchase on the Internet. Is there some catalog of springs out there that lists those coefficients, or a way to calculate them from some other listed parameter, or a practical way to measure them? -- Christopher Howard
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| From | John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-18 19:29 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <875xa3jm2q.fsf@sugarbit.com> |
| In reply to | #894795 |
Spring catalogs will list nominal spring constants but there's lots of variation. Better to measure your particular spring. As far as I know nobody publishes damping coefficients. You could compute them from the spring dimensions and the material properties but I don't think that would be very accurate. You can measure the spring constant by measuring the spring, applying a known force, and measuring again. The spring constant is the force divided by the change in length. Knowing the spring constant you can then hang a mass from it, start it oscillating, measure the period and decay time constant, and calculate the damping coefficient. That way you would be including the effects of the air. Hang it from something rigid and massive, of course. -- John Hasler john@sugarbit.com Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-19 08:17 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <871pkqk12x.fsf@sugarbit.com> |
| In reply to | #894797 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_oscillator#Damped_harmonic_oscillator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass-spring-damper_model -- John Hasler john@sugarbit.com Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA
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