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'Space' is never empty

Started byMusatov <tomusatov@gmail.com>
First post2018-10-05 19:08 -0700
Last post2018-10-12 13:32 -0700
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  'Space' is never empty Musatov <tomusatov@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 19:08 -0700
    Re: 'Space' is never empty Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-05 21:54 -0500
      Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-05 22:21 -0700
    Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-05 23:27 -0700
    Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 14:54 +0000
      Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 17:17 -0400
        Re: 'Space' is never empty Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-06 16:46 -0500
          Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 22:10 -0400
      Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-06 21:31 -0700
        Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 12:25 +0000
          Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 05:31 -0700
            Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 14:30 +0000
          Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 09:07 -0700
            Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-07 20:36 +0000
              Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-07 21:31 -0700
                Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 06:02 -0700
                  Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 11:54 -0400
                  Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 10:24 -0700
                    Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 12:33 -0700
                      Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 19:44 +0000
                        Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 09:00 -0700
                          Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 18:58 +0000
                            Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 14:53 -0700
                              Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 20:59 -0400
                                Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-09 21:23 -0700
                                Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 05:52 -0700
                                  Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 09:44 -0400
                                    Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 06:59 -0700
                                      Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 15:59 +0000
                                        Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 09:12 -0700
                                        Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 18:01 -0400
                                          Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 22:14 +0000
                                            Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 15:41 -0700
                                              Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 00:07 +0000
                                                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 20:50 -0400
                                                  Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 23:33 -0700
                                                  Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 13:06 +0000
                                                    Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 13:01 -0400
                                                      Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 17:57 +0000
                                                        Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 18:28 -0400
                                                          Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 22:52 +0000
                                                          Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 09:58 -0700
                                                            Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 15:57 -0400
                                                              Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 22:34 +0000
                                              Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 20:45 -0400
                                                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 13:06 +0000
                                                  Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 13:13 -0400
                                                    Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 17:57 +0000
                                                      Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 18:52 -0400
                                                        Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 22:56 +0000
                                                          Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 05:55 -0700
                                                            Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 13:15 +0000
                                                              Re: 'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 06:51 -0700
                                                                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 14:13 +0000
                                                                  Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:07 -0400
                                                                    Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 17:52 +0000
                                                                      Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 17:20 -0400
                                                                        Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 22:11 +0000
                                                                          Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 21:49 -0400
                                                                            Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 13:35 +0000
                                                                              Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-13 21:59 -0700
                                                                              You can't _ measure motion if you never stop measuring. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-13 22:51 -0700
                                                Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 10:17 -0700
                                                  Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 18:20 -0400
                                                    Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 09:50 -0700
                                                      Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 15:24 -0400
                                                        Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 12:47 -0700
                                            Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 20:43 -0400
                                              Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-11 00:03 -0700
                                              Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 12:29 +0000
                                                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 12:49 -0400
                                                  Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 16:59 +0000
                                                    Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-11 18:23 -0700
                                                      Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 13:27 +0000
                                                        Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 07:39 -0700
                                                        Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:00 -0400
                                                Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-13 22:38 -0700
                                                  Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-13 23:39 -0700
                                                  Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 14:45 +0000
                                                    Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 08:04 -0700
                                                      Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 16:12 +0000
                                                        Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 09:33 -0700
                                                          Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 20:20 +0000
                                                            Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-14 13:40 -0700
                                                            Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 13:52 -0700
                                                              Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 21:09 +0000
                                                                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-14 18:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 05:34 -0700
                                                                  Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 14:24 +0000
                                                          Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-14 21:44 -0700
                                                    Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Rogue Cormac <kremvax2004@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-14 10:58 -0600
                                                      Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 19:06 +0200
                                                  Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-10-14 14:49 -0700
                                                    Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 23:06 +0000
                                              Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 10:34 -0700
                                          Re: 'Space' is never empty "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 09:33 -0700
                                            Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:48 -0400
                                              Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 13:35 -0700
                                                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 17:29 -0400
                                                  Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-13 11:10 -0700
                                                    Re: 'Space' is never empty Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-17 14:33 -0500
                                              Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 18:58 -0700
                                                Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 23:54 -0700
                              Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 13:22 +0000
                                Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 09:42 -0400
                                  Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 15:59 +0000
                Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 13:21 +0000
                  Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 11:55 -0400
                    Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 09:47 -0700
                    Re: 'Space' is never empty Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-08 11:51 -0500
                  Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-08 09:58 -0700
                    Re: 'Space' is never empty Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 17:13 +0000
                      Re: 'Space' is never empty yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 12:04 -0700
                  Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-10 17:39 -0700
                    Re: 'Space' is never empty Ivan Smith <invalid@example.com> - 2018-10-11 08:28 -0700
                      Re: 'Space' is never empty poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-10-11 18:20 -0700
                    Re: 'Space' is never empty Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-10-11 19:43 -0500
        Re: 'Space' is never empty Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 10:20 -0700
          Re: 'Space' is never empty yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 11:58 -0700
            Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-17 12:13 -0700
              Re: 'Space' is never empty benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-17 15:51 -0400
    'Space' is never empty john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 07:55 -0700
    Re: 'Space' is never empty mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-10-12 13:32 -0700

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#707948 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-14 16:12 +0000
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<ppvptj$hie$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#707903
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Quite right! It was Rutherford who made that comment. 
> ”
> And none of them thought the electron doesn’t rapidly orbit the nucleus.
> One of them, maybe Rutherford, said the electron ‘slows down’ at each end
> of its orbital, which is exactly what happens with orthogonal, in phase, 1:2 spin.
> 

John, I’ve asked you for a reference for this many times. You’ve never been
able to cough it up. 

One thing to remember: that old model preceded quantum mechanics. In other
words, mistakes were found in what they thought. Why hang onto mistakes?



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#707953 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-14 09:33 -0700
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<2db62839-0d71-402e-a43c-f6b91ab447fb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#707948
Odd
“other 
words, mistakes were found in what they thought. Why hang onto mistakes? ”
These very smart people clearly saw electrons moving around atoms at high speed.
You say they’re mistaken.
I prefer to think that it’s you who are mistaken.
You lost Logic along the way and now you’re just Lost

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#708006 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-14 20:20 +0000
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<pq08eu$19mp$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#707953
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “other 
> words, mistakes were found in what they thought. Why hang onto mistakes? ”
> These very smart people clearly saw electrons moving around atoms at high speed.

No, John, they did not. They imagined a model where this happened. This
model ends up having enough problems that it was declared wrong. Even Bohr
declared the original model wrong and then went about the business of
finding the right model, along with Schrödinger, Pauli, Heisenberg, Dirac,
and others. 

You claim that someone in this pool “saw” electrons slowing down in an
orbital, but you and I both know this is just your bullshit.

> You say they’re mistaken.

THEY say they were mistaken. Then they fixed it. 

> I prefer to think that it’s you who are mistaken.

You can prefer to think whatever you want. History proves otherwise.
Educate yourself. 

> You lost Logic along the way and now you’re just Lost
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#708012 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-10-14 13:40 -0700
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<7669c84a-fbb3-40bd-8371-05113cdbd0a8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#708006
If there is no light wave or matter dimension is empty.
If there is a light wave or more or an atom dimension is occupied.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#708024 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-14 13:52 -0700
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<134760c7-24a6-4ca9-95d5-e401d6abf23c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#708006
Odd
“You can prefer to think whatever you want. History proves otherwise. 
Educate yourself. ”
Femtosecond cameras are here, Odd.
History is being made.
We’ll see what atoms do

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#708042 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-14 21:09 +0000
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<pq0b9v$1e8l$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#708024
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “You can prefer to think whatever you want. History proves otherwise. 
> Educate yourself. ”
> Femtosecond cameras are here, Odd.
> History is being made.
> We’ll see what atoms do
> 

Yes we will. Are you prepared to be wrong? I am, but you?

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#708087 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-10-14 18:18 -0700
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<794671dd-9de6-436f-b42c-12e30f305444@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#708042
On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 2:09:24 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Odd
> > “You can prefer to think whatever you want. History proves otherwise. 
> > Educate yourself. ”
> > Femtosecond cameras are here, Odd.
> > History is being made.
> > We’ll see what atoms do
> > 
> 
> Yes we will. Are you prepared to be wrong? I am, but you?

You are talking to yourself Roy Masters?
You are answering to a hypocrite.

Mitchell Raemsch

> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#708190 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-15 05:34 -0700
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<d5641dee-d102-4650-871b-0ebd65829f38@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#708042
Odd
“Yes we will. Are you prepared to be wrong? I am, but you? ”
The difference between us is that I have known what to look for. For years.
It’s good that you’re prepared- you must have been a scout

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#708201 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-15 14:24 +0000
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<pq27uo$c5i$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#708190
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> Odd
> “Yes we will. Are you prepared to be wrong? I am, but you? ”
> The difference between us is that I have known what to look for. For years.
> It’s good that you’re prepared- you must have been a scout
> 

LOL. So you are not prepared to be wrong, because you have special
insights. I see.  

-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#708129 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

Fromporaty149@gmail.com
Date2018-10-14 21:44 -0700
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<1de69e3b-f2da-4518-9e9f-19eb17da3187@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#707953
On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 7:33:34 PM UTC+3, john wrote:
> Odd
> “other 
> words, mistakes were found in what they thought. Why hang onto mistakes? ”
> These very smart people clearly saw electrons moving around atoms at high speed.
> You say they’re mistaken.
> I prefer to think that it’s you who are mistaken.
> You lost Logic along the way and now you’re just Lost
==================================
Jhon 
you are   wrong  !
electrons do not orbit and not shmorbit 
it was an  idea of Bhore 
9he got a nobel '' about it ..
see how far delusions can go 
indeed the formula of an orbiting object -are 
quite exactly as a VIBRATION OBJECT 
but as you know
mathematics is not all in physics 
i learning about it as a civil engineer 
dealing with 
earthquakes !!
2
see my model 
and its 

CHAIN OF ORBITALS SYSTEM ''

reminding the string theory 
but i found it independently !!
after big efforts and toil 
it works perfectly allo along
atomic and nuclear 3D structure 
btw
particles are 3D all along 
yet 
you have to be educated about dealing with it
and to understand 3D
and to express yourself 3D
and to think 3D !

not common ability !!! not everyone education 
in short 
see a ''little'' example :
(that i was working on it about 10 years 
day and some  night ...

http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract 
====
TIA
Y.P
======================

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#707955 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

FromRogue Cormac <kremvax2004@yahoo.com>
Date2018-10-14 10:58 -0600
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<OAKwD.131230$um3.122521@fx32.iad>
In reply to#707899
On 10/14/2018 8:45 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> <Jeff-Relf.Me  @.> wrote:
>> Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
>>
>> Whenever you hear an "Einstein" quote you can be pretty sure it's fake.
>>
> 
> Quite right! It was Rutherford who made that comment.

We were graced with his quote because Heisenburg said
Rutherford usually could not be reached for comment.

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#707958 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

FromHadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-14 19:06 +0200
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<8736t81mqd.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#707955
Rogue Cormac <kremvax2004@yahoo.com> writes:

> On 10/14/2018 8:45 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <Jeff-Relf.Me  @.> wrote:
>>> Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
>>>
>>> Whenever you hear an "Einstein" quote you can be pretty sure it's fake.
>>>
>>
>> Quite right! It was Rutherford who made that comment.
>
> We were graced with his quote because Heisenburg said
> Rutherford usually could not be reached for comment.
>

He said he was unable to determine if he could ask Rutherford for
comment.


-- 
chrisv alias turdv is a turd

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#708058 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2018-10-14 14:49 -0700
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<bee214da-b71c-4b75-a517-210e31291161@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#707851
On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 10:38:57 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
> 
> Whenever you hear an "Einstein" quote you can be pretty sure it's fake.


Like when they quote Einstein predicting gravitational waves!

Double-A

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#708078 — Re: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-14 23:06 +0000
SubjectRe: Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
Message-ID<pq0i6j$1oh0$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#708058
Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 10:38:57 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> Einstein never said you should be able to explain physics to a barmaid.
>> 
>> Whenever you hear an "Einstein" quote you can be pretty sure it's fake.
> 
> 
> Like when they quote Einstein predicting gravitational waves!

https://einsteinpapers.press.princeton.edu/vol7-trans/25

> 
> Double-A
> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#707198

FromEdward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-11 10:34 -0700
Message-ID<b42d19ca-79ed-455c-a210-1e9d43d01a17@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#707061
On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 8:43:08 PM UTC-4, benj wrote:
> On 10/10/2018 6:14 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> > I don’t find mathematics indecipherable. Maybe you and John do. Maybe you
> > think this is somehow unfair, like John does. John wants no science that a
> > third grader can’t follow.
> > 
> I have never heard you explain any of your so-called "science" either in 
> words OR math. Einstein said one should be able to explain science to 
> anyone. You can't explain your science to anyone who speaks both science 
> AND math. YOU just then explain that by saying that THEY are uneducated 
> and stupid. What is the flaw in your thinking?

Just to keep the record straight: Odd has never called anyone stupid.
Odd and I both have said John could use a little more education.


> John at least understands 
> the IDEA behind his theories. yeah, sometimes he's wrong, but at least 
> he knows what the idea he had was. You on the other hand have NO ideas. 

IMHO, John does not understand his own theory.
As far as ideas, those are cheap. I have many ideas daily.
Most are trivial, a few are potentially profound.
Most are quickly evaluated, found wanting, and discarded.

Would you prefer I annoyed you and many others in this group
with useless ideas? 

And since we are on that subject, I have not seen too many ideas
come from you, benj. But, no one is keeping score.

Enjoy the ideas,
ed

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#707461

From"reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-12 09:33 -0700
Message-ID<f9c7bdc7-52e4-4bc7-bdaa-058b9ce58d6c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#707046
On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 3:01:31 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> On 10/10/2018 11:59 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> benj
> >> “Proof? Odd's proof is he gets out textbooks and thumps them. It's his
> >> version of bible thumping. What's yours? ”
> >> ed and Odd are stuck in an epicycle
> >>
> > 
> > Just grab any word handy that sounds awful. Lib, epicycle, polyunsaturated.
> > Something’s gonna stick, right?
> > 
> Typical Odd. He thinks science is all about political debate. He thinks 
> you do science by arguing about words. He's even worse than the people 
> who think science is all about how complex and indecipherable your 
> mathematics are. Odd doesn't even have mathematics. Just words.

Einstein and I agree."Space is the most dynamic part of the universe" Its where all is created.It is the source of gravity,and never forget G=EMC^2  Bert

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#707464

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-12 12:48 -0400
Message-ID<ppqj8a$ih8$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#707461
On 10/12/2018 12:33 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 3:01:31 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>> On 10/10/2018 11:59 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> benj
>>>> “Proof? Odd's proof is he gets out textbooks and thumps them. It's his
>>>> version of bible thumping. What's yours? ”
>>>> ed and Odd are stuck in an epicycle
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just grab any word handy that sounds awful. Lib, epicycle, polyunsaturated.
>>> Something’s gonna stick, right?
>>>
>> Typical Odd. He thinks science is all about political debate. He thinks
>> you do science by arguing about words. He's even worse than the people
>> who think science is all about how complex and indecipherable your
>> mathematics are. Odd doesn't even have mathematics. Just words.
> 
> Einstein and I agree."Space is the most dynamic part of the universe" Its where all is created.It is the source of gravity,and never forget G=EMC^2  Bert
> 
It is not SPACE that is dynamic. Space is "empty" it is the Aether in 
Space where it all is created. That is a given!

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#707490

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-10-12 13:35 -0700
Message-ID<0afb19f2-bc33-4c07-878f-503858b15760@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#707464
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 9:48:15 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 12:33 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 3:01:31 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> >> On 10/10/2018 11:59 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> benj
> >>>> “Proof? Odd's proof is he gets out textbooks and thumps them. It's his
> >>>> version of bible thumping. What's yours? ”
> >>>> ed and Odd are stuck in an epicycle
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Just grab any word handy that sounds awful. Lib, epicycle, polyunsaturated.
> >>> Something’s gonna stick, right?
> >>>
> >> Typical Odd. He thinks science is all about political debate. He thinks
> >> you do science by arguing about words. He's even worse than the people
> >> who think science is all about how complex and indecipherable your
> >> mathematics are. Odd doesn't even have mathematics. Just words.
> > 
> > Einstein and I agree."Space is the most dynamic part of the universe" Its where all is created.It is the source of gravity,and never forget G=EMC^2  Bert
> > 
> It is not SPACE that is dynamic. Space is "empty" it is the Aether in 
> Space where it all is created. That is a given!

No. Only God is a given for any creation...

Space is expanding. And there is more than aether...


Mitchell Raemsch

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#707512

Frombenj <benj.fake@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-12 17:29 -0400
Message-ID<ppr3mq$1e6u$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#707490
On 10/12/2018 4:35 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 9:48:15 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>> On 10/12/2018 12:33 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 3:01:31 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
>>>> On 10/10/2018 11:59 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> benj
>>>>>> “Proof? Odd's proof is he gets out textbooks and thumps them. It's his
>>>>>> version of bible thumping. What's yours? ”
>>>>>> ed and Odd are stuck in an epicycle
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just grab any word handy that sounds awful. Lib, epicycle, polyunsaturated.
>>>>> Something’s gonna stick, right?
>>>>>
>>>> Typical Odd. He thinks science is all about political debate. He thinks
>>>> you do science by arguing about words. He's even worse than the people
>>>> who think science is all about how complex and indecipherable your
>>>> mathematics are. Odd doesn't even have mathematics. Just words.
>>>
>>> Einstein and I agree."Space is the most dynamic part of the universe" Its where all is created.It is the source of gravity,and never forget G=EMC^2  Bert
>>>
>> It is not SPACE that is dynamic. Space is "empty" it is the Aether in
>> Space where it all is created. That is a given!
> 
> No. Only God is a given for any creation...
> 
> Space is expanding. And there is more than aether...
> 
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
Space is NOT expanding. That is a bogus error. Aether is the TOE! That 
is a given!

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#707712

Frommitchrae3323@gmail.com
Date2018-10-13 11:10 -0700
Message-ID<8fa6c3b1-7a02-4f52-b5cc-7a96940b6d74@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#707512
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 2:29:03 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 4:35 PM, mitchrae3323@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 9:48:15 AM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> >> On 10/12/2018 12:33 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 3:01:31 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> >>>> On 10/10/2018 11:59 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>>>> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> benj
> >>>>>> “Proof? Odd's proof is he gets out textbooks and thumps them. It's his
> >>>>>> version of bible thumping. What's yours? ”
> >>>>>> ed and Odd are stuck in an epicycle
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just grab any word handy that sounds awful. Lib, epicycle, polyunsaturated.
> >>>>> Something’s gonna stick, right?
> >>>>>
> >>>> Typical Odd. He thinks science is all about political debate. He thinks
> >>>> you do science by arguing about words. He's even worse than the people
> >>>> who think science is all about how complex and indecipherable your
> >>>> mathematics are. Odd doesn't even have mathematics. Just words.
> >>>
> >>> Einstein and I agree."Space is the most dynamic part of the universe" Its where all is created.It is the source of gravity,and never forget G=EMC^2  Bert
> >>>
> >> It is not SPACE that is dynamic. Space is "empty" it is the Aether in
> >> Space where it all is created. That is a given!
> > 
> > No. Only God is a given for any creation...
> > 
> > Space is expanding. And there is more than aether...
> > 
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> Space is NOT expanding. That is a bogus error. Aether is the TOE! That 
> is a given!

You are wrong on both accounts Roy Masters.

Mitchell Raemsch

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