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  HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-14 17:58 -0500
    Re: HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-12-14 23:24 +0000
    HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 17:24 -0800
      Re: HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-14 18:09 -0800
      Re: HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-16 17:42 -0500
        Re: HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-16 15:50 -0800
          Re: HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-16 20:25 -0500
            Re: HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-17 05:04 -0800
              Re: HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-12-17 06:28 -0800
                Re: HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-17 06:38 -0800
                  Re: HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-17 20:59 -0500
              Re: HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. Yuri Kreaton <invlaid@invalid.com> - 2016-12-17 10:30 -0600
              Re: HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-17 20:44 -0500
        Re: HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-12-16 23:50 +0000

#609046 — HVAC & CHIMP... PROOF THEY ARE IGNORANT AND LIARS.

HVAC drooled:

More false claims. You have nothing except kook web sites

HVAC and Chimp have stated that it is not true that 5 government studies 
have concluded ESP and Remote viewing is real. Here is proof they know 
no science and deserve no respect.

Truth. The 5 studies in question were by:
1. Congressional Research service
2. The Army Research Institute
3. The National Research counsel (at request of U.S. Army)
4. Office of Technology assessment.
5. American institute for Research (sponsored by CIA)

ALL five reports concluded that remote viewing and ESP phenomena are 
satisfactorily demonstrated and worthy of further scientific research.

Such conclusions are exactly the opposite of what HVAC and Chimp say has 
occurred. They are both liars.

Here is a quote from the Army Research report: "The bottom line is that 
the data reviewed in this report constitute genuine scientific anomalies 
for which no one has an adequate explanation or set of explanations."

Apparently the Army doesn't agree with HVAC and CHimps explanations of 
"kooks".

For a special present to HVAC let us quote the CIA spook report. Can he 
deny his own colleagues?

"The statistical results of the studies examined are far beyond what is 
expected by chance. Arguments that these results could be due to 
methodological flaws in the experiments are soundly refuted."

There you go. HVAC and CHIMP lies are SOUNDLY REFUTED by HVAC's buddies 
at the CIA. The government though a number of agencies clearly state 
that HVAC is a moron and knows no science. HVAC says governments NEVER 
lie. So there you have it.

So, HVAC, why don't you and Chimp, put your Catholic lying tails between 
your legs and piss off and leave the science discussions here to people 
who know some science?

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#609059

benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> HVAC drooled:
> 
> More false claims. You have nothing except kook web sites
> 
> HVAC and Chimp have stated that it is not true that 5 government studies 
> have concluded ESP and Remote viewing is real. Here is proof they know 
> no science and deserve no respect.
> 
> Truth. The 5 studies in question were by:
> 1. Congressional Research service
> 2. The Army Research Institute
> 3. The National Research counsel (at request of U.S. Army)
> 4. Office of Technology assessment.
> 5. American institute for Research (sponsored by CIA)

Yep, as I have said many times now this is true.

What you ignore is the fact that ALL of them were refuted by later
studies that found numerous problems in ALL those studies and were
deemed to be false.

Would you care for a list of references?

Here's a couple:

Myers, David. (2004). Intuition: Its Powers and Perils. Yale University Press

"After thousands of experiments, no reproducible ESP phenomenon has
ever been discovered, nor has any researcher produced any individual
who can convincingly demonstrate psychic ability."

Cogan, Robert. (1998). Critical Thinking: Step by Step. University Press
of America

"When an experiment can't be repeated and get the same result, this
tends to show that the result was due to some error in experimental
procedure, rather than some real causal process. ESP experiments
simply have not turned up any repeatable paranormal phenomena."

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#609090

BJ quacked 
HVAC and Chimp have stated that it is not true that 5 government studies 
have concluded ESP and Remote viewing is real. Here is proof they know 
no science and deserve no respect. 

Truth. The 5 studies in question were by: 
-------------

No, no, no. I want to see a copy of what you read to make you a believer. I don't want a list of government agencies.

Put up or shut up... Bitch

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#609102

On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 8:24:30 PM UTC-5, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked 
> HVAC and Chimp have stated that it is not true that 5 government studies 
> have concluded ESP and Remote viewing is real. Here is proof they know 
> no science and deserve no respect. 
> 
> Truth. The 5 studies in question were by: 
> -------------
> 
> No, no, no. I want to see a copy of what you read to make you a
> believer. I don't want a list of government agencies.

What, your library card has expired?!

> Put up or shut up... Bitch

Wait wait WAIT! You HVAC and Chimp have no access to all the
literature, either pro or con, regards any ESP?! Silly fools you
both. Cite your negative results studies. Links? Make my day, Punks.

JimP, what's your fucking beef with BenjJi? You seem a reasonable man.

-- Mahipal, pronounced "My Pal" or "Maple"... as in Loops, Syrup, Wood. 

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#609290

On 12/14/2016 8:24 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> HVAC and Chimp have stated that it is not true that 5 government studies
> have concluded ESP and Remote viewing is real. Here is proof they know
> no science and deserve no respect.
>
> Truth. The 5 studies in question were by:
> -------------
>
> No, no, no. I want to see a copy of what you read to make you a believer. I don't want a list of government agencies.
>
> Put up or shut up... Bitch
>
You and Chimp are such morons. You both not only know no science but you 
aren't even aware of the current state of ESP debunking. You just keep 
saying utterly stooopid things like "there are no peer reviewed positive 
ESP papers" or "government studies found there was nothing to it." You 
guys are SO behind the debunking times. The only things you clown shoes 
can say is "I believe ESP is impossible therefore it cannot exist". 
Sure. You guys are such "authorities". Go get up to speed on current ESP 
debunking state of the art and get back with us then.

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#609319

BJ quacked 
> 
> No, no, no. I want to see a copy of what you read to make you a believer. I don't want a list of government agencies. 
> 
> Put up or shut up... Bitch 
> 
You and Chimp are such morons. You both not only know no science but you 
aren't even aware of the current state of ESP debunking. You just keep 
saying utterly stooopid things like "there are no peer reviewed positive 
ESP papers" or "government studies found there was nothing to it." You 
guys are SO behind the debunking times. The only things you clown shoes 
can say is "I believe ESP is impossible therefore it cannot exist". 
Sure. You guys are such "authorities". Go get up to speed on current ESP 
debunking state of the art and get back with us then. 
------------

So in other words I was EXACTLY correct when I said you had nothing.

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#609346

On 12/16/2016 6:50 PM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
>>
>> No, no, no. I want to see a copy of what you read to make you a believer. I don't want a list of government agencies.
>>
>> Put up or shut up... Bitch
>>
> You and Chimp are such morons. You both not only know no science but you
> aren't even aware of the current state of ESP debunking. You just keep
> saying utterly stooopid things like "there are no peer reviewed positive
> ESP papers" or "government studies found there was nothing to it." You
> guys are SO behind the debunking times. The only things you clown shoes
> can say is "I believe ESP is impossible therefore it cannot exist".
> Sure. You guys are such "authorities". Go get up to speed on current ESP
> debunking state of the art and get back with us then.
> ------------
>
> So in other words I was EXACTLY correct when I said you had nothing.
>
Nope. You have nothing as usual. All you have is you believe ESP is 
"impossible" and therefore can't exist because you say so. That's pretty 
insane, dude. I've got 5 government reports studying ESP research over 
the years and concluding it is valid science. You got nuttin' but a big 
empty mouth. no offense.

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#609366

BJ quacked 
Nope. You have nothing as usual. All you have is you believe ESP is 
"impossible" and therefore can't exist because you say so. That's pretty 
insane, dude. I've got 5 government reports studying ESP research over 
the years and concluding it is valid science. 
--------------

Those are the 5 reports that you can't produce, right? 

Lol

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#609372

On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:04:30 AM UTC-5, HVAC spat/wrote:
> BJ quacked 
>> Nope. You have nothing as usual. All you have is you believe ESP is 
>> "impossible" and therefore can't exist because you say so. That's pretty 
>> insane, dude. I've got 5 government reports studying ESP research over 
>> the years and concluding it is valid science. 
> --------------
> 
> Those are the 5 reports that you can't produce, right? 
> 
> Lol

Neither BenjJi nor others owe you nothing HVAC. Do your own god damned
homework! O wait... you'd had to have gone to college for that. Got past?!
Speaking of... hey emptyBrainDeadHVAC, what was your favourite subject
and at which fucking university? Got your resume/CV, handy? Wash hands first.

-- Mahipal “IPMM... माहिपाल ७६३८: d(me) != 0 ... me alwa(y)s changes...”

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#609373

Loopy says 
Neither BenjJi nor others owe you nothing HVAC. Do your own god damned 
homework! O wait... you'd had to have gone to college for that. Got past?! 
Speaking of... hey emptyBrainDeadHVAC, what was your favourite subject 
and at which fucking university?
----------

My my my... You've certainly got yourself worked up into a lather for a Saturday morning. But I'll tell you what. You give me a valid reason for wanting to know my personal information and I will provide it. 

I'm always fair.

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#609448

On 12/17/2016 9:38 AM, HVAC wrote:
> Loopy says
> Neither BenjJi nor others owe you nothing HVAC. Do your own god damned
> homework! O wait... you'd had to have gone to college for that. Got past?!
> Speaking of... hey emptyBrainDeadHVAC, what was your favourite subject
> and at which fucking university?
> ----------
>
> My my my... You've certainly got yourself worked up into a lather for a Saturday morning. But I'll tell you what. You give me a valid reason for wanting to know my personal information and I will provide it.
>
> I'm always fair.
>
Tell him that as a public personality and official moderator of this 
group he needs to release his income tax information as all those in the 
public eye should do. I'm fair. If Trump releases his then I expect HVAC 
to follow likewise with his returns. Fist bump?

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#609384

On 12/17/2016 7:04 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> Nope. You have nothing as usual. All you have is you believe ESP is
> "impossible" and therefore can't exist because you say so. That's pretty
> insane, dude. I've got 5 government reports studying ESP research over
> the years and concluding it is valid science.
> --------------

> Those are the 5 reports that you can't produce, right?
>
> Lol
>


here are 5;

1. White Leftist Women in Brussles uses ESP to use Obama as a flipping 
monkey puppet.

2. The Democrats use PBS as a leftist loud horn using ESP and money and 
contracts.

3. Hillary uses ESP to pick out quarts of Gin.

4. I have a "remote viewing" connection using ESP of benj and the signal 
is blank.

5. Girls  use ESP on me to pick them up all the time.

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#609445

On 12/17/2016 8:04 AM, HVAC wrote:
> BJ quacked
> Nope. You have nothing as usual. All you have is you believe ESP is
> "impossible" and therefore can't exist because you say so. That's pretty
> insane, dude. I've got 5 government reports studying ESP research over
> the years and concluding it is valid science.
> --------------
>
> Those are the 5 reports that you can't produce, right?
>
> Lol
>
I could, but since you refuse to read anything that has a chance of 
educating you, why should I bother? Read my new book yet? See what I mean?

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#609327

benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 12/14/2016 8:24 PM, HVAC wrote:
>> BJ quacked
>> HVAC and Chimp have stated that it is not true that 5 government studies
>> have concluded ESP and Remote viewing is real. Here is proof they know
>> no science and deserve no respect.
>>
>> Truth. The 5 studies in question were by:
>> -------------
>>
>> No, no, no. I want to see a copy of what you read to make you a believer. I don't want a list of government agencies.
>>
>> Put up or shut up... Bitch
>>
> You and Chimp are such morons. You both not only know no science but you 
> aren't even aware of the current state of ESP debunking. You just keep 
> saying utterly stooopid things like "there are no peer reviewed positive 
> ESP papers" or "government studies found there was nothing to it." You 
> guys are SO behind the debunking times. The only things you clown shoes 
> can say is "I believe ESP is impossible therefore it cannot exist". 
> Sure. You guys are such "authorities". Go get up to speed on current ESP 
> debunking state of the art and get back with us then.

Got anything later than 2015 kook?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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