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Future Advances in Physics...

Started bybenj <nobody@gmail.com>
First post2015-12-16 02:38 -0500
Last post2015-12-26 22:22 -0800
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  Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 02:38 -0500
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... "J.B. Wood" <arl_123234@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-16 06:19 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 04:18 -0800
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:02 -0500
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 07:46 -0600
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 16:06 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 09:22 -0600
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:08 -0500
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 12:36 -0600
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:01 -0600
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 20:08 +0000
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 20:11 +0000
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-16 22:09 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-16 22:08 +0100
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-16 22:13 +0100
                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 21:21 +0000
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-16 21:17 +0000
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 22:41 -0800
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 06:50 -0800
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 22:21 -0800
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-16 18:39 +0100
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:04 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 12:19 -0600
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-17 01:37 +0100
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Bill Miller <KT4YE@YAHOO.COM> - 2015-12-16 09:58 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:06 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-16 20:26 +0100
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Bill Miller" <kt4ye@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-20 11:27 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-16 20:18 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 00:45 -0500
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-17 07:27 +0100
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 07:50 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-16 10:08 -0600
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 08:18 -0800
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:23 -0500
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 13:40 -0600
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 01:04 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 10:43 -0600
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 20:16 -0500
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 07:03 -0800
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 03:15 -0800
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 00:26 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-17 03:42 +0100
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 01:23 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 07:47 -0800
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-17 21:54 +0100
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 20:00 -0500
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 05:49 +0100
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 04:43 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 20:26 +0100
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 22:36 -0500
                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-19 05:51 +0100
                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 00:55 -0500
                        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-20 08:05 +0100
                          Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 02:26 -0500
                            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-20 12:04 +0100
                              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-20 16:37 +0100
                              Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 01:57 -0500
                                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-22 05:48 +0100
                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-19 12:00 +0100
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 09:11 -0600
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 07:52 -0800
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 10:06 -0600
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 08:18 -0800
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 10:44 -0600
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-17 22:04 +0100
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org> - 2015-12-17 21:07 +0000
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 15:35 -0600
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 05:17 +0100
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 07:45 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 08:24 -0800
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Mapple Babble" <invalid@example.com> - 2015-12-19 11:28 -0800
                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 11:59 -0800
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 12:15 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 20:29 +0100
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 13:52 -0600
                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-18 21:23 +0100
                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 14:50 -0600
                        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-20 12:54 +0100
                          Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 01:51 -0500
                            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-22 05:12 +0100
                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 00:40 -0800
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 21:39 -0500
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 07:48 -0800
                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 13:46 -0500
                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 02:22 -0800
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 10:53 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 22:33 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... xxein1@att.net - 2015-12-17 10:36 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 08:51 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-18 10:58 -0600
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Ezra Farrow <ezrafa@dubtechno.org> - 2015-12-18 18:02 +0000
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-18 13:17 -0600
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Ezra Farrow <ezrafa@dubtechno.org> - 2015-12-18 22:01 +0000
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 22:24 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-19 11:51 +0100
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 13:36 -0500
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 10:52 -0800
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 03:29 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-19 17:54 -0600
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 02:20 -0500
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-20 10:51 +0100
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 02:17 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-21 12:07 +0100
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 13:53 -0500
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-18 23:39 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-19 06:52 +0100
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 01:43 -0500
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... "szczepan  bialek" <sz.bialek@wp.pl> - 2015-12-19 09:48 +0100
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 13:33 -0500
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 13:32 -0500
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-19 21:06 +0100
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 01:47 -0500
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-20 10:36 +0100
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 02:55 -0500
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-21 11:50 +0100
                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... "szczepan  bialek" <sz.bialek@wp.pl> - 2015-12-21 18:08 +0100
                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 12:17 -0600
                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 13:22 -0500
                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-21 20:02 +0100
                        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 21:26 -0500
                          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-22 21:56 +0100
                            Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 23:46 -0500
                              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:19 -0600
                                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 14:10 -0500
                                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 13:49 -0600
                                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 22:03 -0500
                                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 11:00 -0600
                                        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 21:17 -0500
                                          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 12:39 -0600
                                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-23 23:46 -0600
                                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-24 15:15 +0000
                                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 22:04 +0000
                                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 16:29 -0600
                                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-23 22:53 +0000
                              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Don Kelly <dhky@shaw.ca> - 2015-12-24 18:24 -0800
                                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 22:18 -0500
                                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Don Kelly <dhky@shaw.ca> - 2015-12-25 15:54 -0800
                                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 03:58 -0500
                                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-26 11:35 +0100
                                        Re: Future Advances in Physics... john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 04:01 -0800
                                          Re: Future Advances in Physics... john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 04:19 -0800
                                          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 13:09 -0600
                                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 05:14 -0800
                                        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 14:16 -0500
                                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 14:54 -0800
                                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-25 10:50 +0100
                                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-25 11:46 -0600
                                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-25 20:28 +0100
                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-25 03:09 +0100
                        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 04:00 -0500
                          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Jos Bergervoet <jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-25 11:01 +0100
                            Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 14:39 -0500
                              Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Bill Miller" <kt4ye@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-22 18:17 -0500
                                Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 17:23 -0800
                                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 19:44 -0800
                                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 02:27 -0800
                                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 02:45 -0500
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-12-19 01:29 -0800
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 13:58 -0500
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... dobri karagorgov <dobrikarate.gov@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 11:15 -0800
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-12-19 13:07 -0800
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 03:23 -0500
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-12-21 01:11 -0800
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 16:47 -0800
    Re: Future Advances in Physics... "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 12:17 -0800
      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-12-19 13:22 -0800
        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 03:27 -0500
          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-12-21 00:57 -0800
            Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 14:00 -0500
              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 14:21 -0600
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Timo <timo@physics.uq.edu.au> - 2015-12-21 17:12 -0800
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 21:44 -0500
                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 07:53 -0600
                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 13:12 -0500
                        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:34 -0600
                          Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 18:13 -0500
                            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:14 -0600
                              Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 14:03 -0500
                                Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 16:16 -0800
                                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 22:24 -0800
                                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-27 14:03 -0800
                                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 16:48 -0800
                        Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:38 -0600
                          Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 18:20 -0500
                            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:16 -0600
                              Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 14:09 -0500
                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 21:20 -0500
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 07:38 -0600
                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 13:03 -0500
                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:23 -0600
                        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 17:56 -0500
                          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 17:46 -0600
                            Re: Future Advances in Physics... HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 20:11 -0800
                              Re: Future Advances in Physics... john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 05:14 -0800
                                Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:21 -0600
                                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 00:48 -0800
                                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 11:13 -0600
                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 07:44 -0600
                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 13:05 -0500
                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 12:28 -0600
                        Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 18:03 -0500
                          Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 10:14 -0600
                            Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 10:32 -0600
                              Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 22:00 -0500
                            Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 21:57 -0500
                              Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 11:12 -0600
                                Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 21:19 -0500
                                  Re: Future Advances in Physics... Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 13:03 -0600
                                    Re: Future Advances in Physics... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 14:12 -0500
                                      Re: Future Advances in Physics... "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 22:22 -0800

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#539548 — Future Advances in Physics...

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 02:38 -0500
SubjectFuture Advances in Physics...
Message-ID<_x8cy.4543$h27.3447@fx23.iad>
Where does the future of physics lie?

So, you want to be the next "Einstein" developing the next big thing in 
physics. Where you do investigate? Spend a lot of tax money to smash 
things together and then name all the pieces? Pretty much like studying 
architecture by grinding up bricks and studying the dust under a 
microscope.

Well, if you look on the INTERNET, it's pretty clear that most current 
efforts are all along the lines of word games, proving Relativity 
"wrong" and obscure mathematical complexity.

In a way it's just an imitation of Einstein who everyone imagines just 
cranked out a complex mathematical theory that nobody understands off 
the top of his genius head.

But discoveries really don't work that way, even with Einstein it 
started with a simple thing. In his case was the question if Galileo's 
theory of relativity held for electromagnetic phenomena. It did.

The point here, gentle reader, is that while so many today in physics 
strain mightily with obscure mathematics and word games that literally 
make no logical sense in an attempt to "explain" how up is really down 
and black is really white and nothing at all can have "behavior", the 
place one needs to look for the "next big thing", is on the list of 
"forbidden" topics.

As Professor Benade (who I used to work for once) told me: Don't be like 
the guy who lost a quarter over there but is looking over here because 
the light is better!

Point is while strategic writers like HVAC and Odd try to ridicule any 
mention of a forbidden topic and discourage any actual investigation, 
this is exactly where the next advances will occur. They say, these 
things can't be real (never looking at the actual data, of course) 
because there is no theory to explain them! Ding! Ding! Ding!

It is the very FACT that there is no theory that "explains" them that 
shows that they NEED to be studied! So today there is a HUGE list of 
"forbidden topics" that are off-limits to official support and 
publication and it is little wonder that official physics has lapsed 
into some monster word game of people trying to "explain" the universe 
using ever more and more illogical and meaningless "explanations".

So if you think that "remote viewing" or ESP or PK are not "real" and 
are all hoaxes, it probably means you somehow are so lazy that you just 
accept some anonymous voice on the INTERNET who proclaims infallible 
omniscient truth because he says he does. And that means you are NEVER 
going to amount to diddly shit in science no matter how many people 
swoon over your complex mathematics and how many editors make sure your 
screed hits the "big" journals. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi.  Got it?


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#539564

From"J.B. Wood" <arl_123234@hotmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 06:19 -0500
Message-ID<n4rhc8$d1f$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#539548
On 12/16/2015 02:38 AM, benj wrote:
> Where does the future of physics lie?
>
> So, you want to be the next "Einstein" developing the next big thing in
> physics. Where you do investigate? Spend a lot of tax money to smash
> things together and then name all the pieces? Pretty much like studying
> architecture by grinding up bricks and studying the dust under a
> microscope.
>
> Well, if you look on the INTERNET, it's pretty clear that most current
> efforts are all along the lines of word games, proving Relativity
> "wrong" and obscure mathematical complexity.
>
> In a way it's just an imitation of Einstein who everyone imagines just
> cranked out a complex mathematical theory that nobody understands off
> the top of his genius head.
>
> But discoveries really don't work that way, even with Einstein it
> started with a simple thing. In his case was the question if Galileo's
> theory of relativity held for electromagnetic phenomena. It did.
>
> The point here, gentle reader, is that while so many today in physics
> strain mightily with obscure mathematics and word games that literally
> make no logical sense in an attempt to "explain" how up is really down
> and black is really white and nothing at all can have "behavior", the
> place one needs to look for the "next big thing", is on the list of
> "forbidden" topics.
>
> As Professor Benade (who I used to work for once) told me: Don't be like
> the guy who lost a quarter over there but is looking over here because
> the light is better!
>
> Point is while strategic writers like HVAC and Odd try to ridicule any
> mention of a forbidden topic and discourage any actual investigation,
> this is exactly where the next advances will occur. They say, these
> things can't be real (never looking at the actual data, of course)
> because there is no theory to explain them! Ding! Ding! Ding!
>
> It is the very FACT that there is no theory that "explains" them that
> shows that they NEED to be studied! So today there is a HUGE list of
> "forbidden topics" that are off-limits to official support and
> publication and it is little wonder that official physics has lapsed
> into some monster word game of people trying to "explain" the universe
> using ever more and more illogical and meaningless "explanations".
>
> So if you think that "remote viewing" or ESP or PK are not "real" and
> are all hoaxes, it probably means you somehow are so lazy that you just
> accept some anonymous voice on the INTERNET who proclaims infallible
> omniscient truth because he says he does. And that means you are NEVER
> going to amount to diddly shit in science no matter how many people
> swoon over your complex mathematics and how many editors make sure your
> screed hits the "big" journals. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi.  Got it?
>
>
Well, from a practical standpoint, without a follow-up by engineers it 
don't mean squat.  IOW ya got the foundation but where's the house? 
Sincerely,

-- 
J. B. Wood	            e-mail: arl_123234@hotmail.com

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#539568

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 04:18 -0800
Message-ID<2945e113-3197-46ef-884d-432dd54b85a8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#539564
They don't have a foundation.
Remember?
Electrons have no structure 

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#539609

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 13:02 -0500
Message-ID<VGhcy.127$uJ5.118@fx35.iad>
In reply to#539564
On 12/16/2015 06:19 AM, J.B. Wood wrote:
> On 12/16/2015 02:38 AM, benj wrote:
>> Where does the future of physics lie?
>>
>> So, you want to be the next "Einstein" developing the next big thing in
>> physics. Where you do investigate? Spend a lot of tax money to smash
>> things together and then name all the pieces? Pretty much like studying
>> architecture by grinding up bricks and studying the dust under a
>> microscope.
>>
>> Well, if you look on the INTERNET, it's pretty clear that most current
>> efforts are all along the lines of word games, proving Relativity
>> "wrong" and obscure mathematical complexity.
>>
>> In a way it's just an imitation of Einstein who everyone imagines just
>> cranked out a complex mathematical theory that nobody understands off
>> the top of his genius head.
>>
>> But discoveries really don't work that way, even with Einstein it
>> started with a simple thing. In his case was the question if Galileo's
>> theory of relativity held for electromagnetic phenomena. It did.
>>
>> The point here, gentle reader, is that while so many today in physics
>> strain mightily with obscure mathematics and word games that literally
>> make no logical sense in an attempt to "explain" how up is really down
>> and black is really white and nothing at all can have "behavior", the
>> place one needs to look for the "next big thing", is on the list of
>> "forbidden" topics.
>>
>> As Professor Benade (who I used to work for once) told me: Don't be like
>> the guy who lost a quarter over there but is looking over here because
>> the light is better!
>>
>> Point is while strategic writers like HVAC and Odd try to ridicule any
>> mention of a forbidden topic and discourage any actual investigation,
>> this is exactly where the next advances will occur. They say, these
>> things can't be real (never looking at the actual data, of course)
>> because there is no theory to explain them! Ding! Ding! Ding!
>>
>> It is the very FACT that there is no theory that "explains" them that
>> shows that they NEED to be studied! So today there is a HUGE list of
>> "forbidden topics" that are off-limits to official support and
>> publication and it is little wonder that official physics has lapsed
>> into some monster word game of people trying to "explain" the universe
>> using ever more and more illogical and meaningless "explanations".
>>
>> So if you think that "remote viewing" or ESP or PK are not "real" and
>> are all hoaxes, it probably means you somehow are so lazy that you just
>> accept some anonymous voice on the INTERNET who proclaims infallible
>> omniscient truth because he says he does. And that means you are NEVER
>> going to amount to diddly shit in science no matter how many people
>> swoon over your complex mathematics and how many editors make sure your
>> screed hits the "big" journals. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi.  Got it?
>>
>>
> Well, from a practical standpoint, without a follow-up by engineers it
> don't mean squat.  IOW ya got the foundation but where's the house?
> Sincerely,

 From a practical standpoint engineers work from a theory. Science 
starts with the unknown and then (hopefully) provides a theory.

The argument (often presented here) that since there is no theory then 
the effects can't exist is clearly nonsense. If followed throughout 
science NOTHING new would have ever been figured out!

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#539578

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 07:46 -0600
Message-ID<n4rpvm$2hk$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#539548
On 12/16/2015 1:38 AM, benj wrote:
>
> In a way it's just an imitation of Einstein who everyone imagines just
> cranked out a complex mathematical theory that nobody understands off
> the top of his genius head.

Speak for yourself, Ben.
I do not believe that the theory of relativity is all that complex.
I do not believe that nobody understands it.
I do not believe it takes a genius to understand it.

Now, it might be that YOU think nobody understands it. It might be that 
YOU think it's complex. It might be that YOU imagine that Einstein just 
cranked it out so that it would be above everyone's head. But that's 
just YOU, and you don't speak for anyone else but you.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#539587

FromPoutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 16:06 +0100
Message-ID<n4ruhb$5eo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#539578
On 12/16/2015 02:46 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 12/16/2015 1:38 AM, benj wrote:
>>
>> In a way it's just an imitation of Einstein who everyone imagines just
>> cranked out a complex mathematical theory that nobody understands off
>> the top of his genius head.
> 
> Speak for yourself, Ben.
> I do not believe that the theory of relativity is all that complex.
> I do not believe that nobody understands it.
> I do not believe it takes a genius to understand it.
> 
> Now, it might be that YOU think nobody understands it. It might be that 
> YOU think it's complex. It might be that YOU imagine that Einstein just 
> cranked it out so that it would be above everyone's head. But that's 
> just YOU, and you don't speak for anyone else but you.
> 

If anybody claims
all what he does not understand is useless nonsense and word salad,
it helps keeping him big in his eyes.

If he admitted
it might be true but out of his league,
he would have also admit
he is not as smart as he thought or claimed.

Such idea is impossible to withstand. So as a Parthian withdrawal,
there is recommended back-shooting of arrows of personal offences
to distract people from his lack of knowledge.

-- 
Poutnik ( the Czech word for a wanderer )

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#539589

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 09:22 -0600
Message-ID<n4rvj0$hlt$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#539587
On 12/16/2015 9:06 AM, Poutnik wrote:
> On 12/16/2015 02:46 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 12/16/2015 1:38 AM, benj wrote:
>>>
>>> In a way it's just an imitation of Einstein who everyone imagines just
>>> cranked out a complex mathematical theory that nobody understands off
>>> the top of his genius head.
>>
>> Speak for yourself, Ben.
>> I do not believe that the theory of relativity is all that complex.
>> I do not believe that nobody understands it.
>> I do not believe it takes a genius to understand it.
>>
>> Now, it might be that YOU think nobody understands it. It might be that
>> YOU think it's complex. It might be that YOU imagine that Einstein just
>> cranked it out so that it would be above everyone's head. But that's
>> just YOU, and you don't speak for anyone else but you.
>>
>
> If anybody claims
> all what he does not understand is useless nonsense and word salad,
> it helps keeping him big in his eyes.
>
> If he admitted
> it might be true but out of his league,
> he would have also admit
> he is not as smart as he thought or claimed.
>
> Such idea is impossible to withstand. So as a Parthian withdrawal,
> there is recommended back-shooting of arrows of personal offences
> to distract people from his lack of knowledge.
>

Right. Ben Jacoby is tired of people telling him he doesn't understand 
some things. And so when someone else claims to understand something he 
doesn't then Ben overreacts, saying "Oh, so you're claiming to be some 
kind of GENIUS!" No. Understanding something that Ben doesn't understand 
doesn't require genius.

Ben is also fond of overgeneralizing, saying that if he doesn't 
understand something, then NOBODY understands it either. And if he has a 
belief, then he's prone to say that EVERYONE believes the same thing. 
Which is nonsense.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#539617

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 13:08 -0500
Message-ID<WMhcy.130$uJ5.45@fx35.iad>
In reply to#539589
On 12/16/2015 10:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 12/16/2015 9:06 AM, Poutnik wrote:
>> On 12/16/2015 02:46 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2015 1:38 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In a way it's just an imitation of Einstein who everyone imagines just
>>>> cranked out a complex mathematical theory that nobody understands off
>>>> the top of his genius head.
>>>
>>> Speak for yourself, Ben.
>>> I do not believe that the theory of relativity is all that complex.
>>> I do not believe that nobody understands it.
>>> I do not believe it takes a genius to understand it.
>>>
>>> Now, it might be that YOU think nobody understands it. It might be that
>>> YOU think it's complex. It might be that YOU imagine that Einstein just
>>> cranked it out so that it would be above everyone's head. But that's
>>> just YOU, and you don't speak for anyone else but you.
>>>
>>
>> If anybody claims
>> all what he does not understand is useless nonsense and word salad,
>> it helps keeping him big in his eyes.
>>
>> If he admitted
>> it might be true but out of his league,
>> he would have also admit
>> he is not as smart as he thought or claimed.
>>
>> Such idea is impossible to withstand. So as a Parthian withdrawal,
>> there is recommended back-shooting of arrows of personal offences
>> to distract people from his lack of knowledge.
>>
>
> Right. Ben Jacoby is tired of people telling him he doesn't understand
> some things. And so when someone else claims to understand something he
> doesn't then Ben overreacts, saying "Oh, so you're claiming to be some
> kind of GENIUS!" No. Understanding something that Ben doesn't understand
> doesn't require genius.
>
> Ben is also fond of overgeneralizing, saying that if he doesn't
> understand something, then NOBODY understands it either. And if he has a
> belief, then he's prone to say that EVERYONE believes the same thing.
> Which is nonsense.

Boinker has been in his Ivory tower so long he is totally unaware of the 
media and public perception. In truth Einstein and relativity has been 
so hyped by media for so long that the very IMAGE (including hairdoo) of 
a science "genius" has been changed in the public mind!

Boinker really needs to get out more.



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#539625

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 12:36 -0600
Message-ID<n4savn$fac$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#539617
On 12/16/2015 12:08 PM, benj wrote:
> Boinker has been in his Ivory tower so long he is totally unaware of the
> media and public perception.

I'm a member of the public. I'm aware of media hype around Einstein. I 
do not share the vision hyped by the media, even though I'm a member of 
the public. I believe there are lots of intelligent people who are also 
unaffected by the media hype, and that they know better to go find 
better sources than the media hype. People who are swayed by media hype 
deserve exactly the misinformation they get. I see no reason to bitch 
about media hype and those who are swayed by it.

There are lots of intelligent people who don't give a flying flip about 
Kim Kartrashian, Donald Dumb-as-a-Stump, Classless Hilton, 
Whoever-the-hell-left One Direction, or who's on the chopping block at 
Dancing With the Stars. And these people don't care about the 
lip-foamers about Einstein, either.

Did you know that after 1919, when Einstein published a paper, there 
would be department store owners who would paste his paper up in the 
display windows so that window-shoppers could read the paper? Do you 
know how stupid that is?

> In truth Einstein and relativity has been
> so hyped by media for so long that the very IMAGE (including hairdoo) of
> a science "genius" has been changed in the public mind!
>
> Boinker really needs to get out more.


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#539632

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 13:01 -0600
Message-ID<n4scea$isd$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#539617
On 12/16/2015 12:08 PM, benj wrote:
> In truth Einstein and relativity has been
> so hyped by media for so long that the very IMAGE (including hairdoo) of
> a science "genius" has been changed in the public mind!

So, really the question is: why should anyone care?
Why do YOU care this has happened?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#539648

FromJürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org>
Date2015-12-16 20:08 +0000
Message-ID<n4sgco$se3$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#539632
Odd Bodkin wrote:

> On 12/16/2015 12:08 PM, benj wrote:
>> In truth Einstein and relativity has been so hyped by media for so long
>> that the very IMAGE (including hairdoo) of a science "genius" has been
>> changed in the public mind!
> 
> So, really the question is: why should anyone care?
> Why do YOU care this has happened?

LHC sees hint of boson heavier than Higgs
http://www.nature.com/news/lhc-sees-hint-of-boson-heavier-than-higgs-1.19036

Amazing how wrong they can be. LHC is already an old obsolete
apparatus, ha ha ha.

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#539649

FromJürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org>
Date2015-12-16 20:11 +0000
Message-ID<n4sghd$se3$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#539648
Jürgen Großenbach wrote:

> Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
>> On 12/16/2015 12:08 PM, benj wrote:
>>> In truth Einstein and relativity has been so hyped by media for so long
>>> that the very IMAGE (including hairdoo) of a science "genius" has been
>>> changed in the public mind!
>> 
>> So, really the question is: why should anyone care?
>> Why do YOU care this has happened?
> 
> LHC sees hint of boson heavier than Higgs
> http://www.nature.com/news/lhc-sees-hint-of-boson-heavier-than-
higgs-1.19036
> 
> Amazing how wrong they can be. LHC is already an old obsolete
> apparatus, ha ha ha.

ha ha ha "Corrected: An earlier version of this article stated, 
incorrectly, that the two photons have masses of about 750 GeV each and 
that the new particle would have a mass of 1,500 GeV."

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#539664

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2015-12-16 22:09 +0100
Message-ID<4090326.tIYEUPOZxQ@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#539649
The ‘nym-shifting troll posted as “Jürgen Großenbach”:

>> LHC sees hint of boson heavier than Higgs
>> http://www.nature.com/news/lhc-sees-hint-of-boson-heavier-than-> higgs-1.19036
>> 
>> Amazing how wrong they can be. LHC is already an old obsolete
>> apparatus, ha ha ha.
> 
> ha ha ha "Corrected: An earlier version of this article stated,
> incorrectly, that the two photons have masses of about 750 GeV each and
> that the new particle would have a mass of 1,500 GeV."

And *that* is science, too.

*PLONK*


PointedEars
-- 
Q: Why is electricity so dangerous?  
A: It doesn't conduct itself.

(from: WolframAlpha)

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#539663

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2015-12-16 22:08 +0100
Message-ID<8486258.UNWtVgUWtI@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#539648
The ’nym-shifting troll posted as “Jürgen Großenbach”:

> LHC sees hint of boson heavier than Higgs
> http://www.nature.com/news/lhc-sees-hint-of-boson-heavier-than-higgs-1.19036
> 
> Amazing how wrong they can be.

That is *science*, which you will probably never understand, ’nym-shifting 
troll.

*The very purpose* of science (from Latin «scientia» „knowledge“) is 
learning things that you did *not* know before.  That includes learning that 
what you thought you knew before is not quite correct or outright wrong 
because now you have found something that contradicts it.  Science is the 
falsification or confirmation of ideas through experiment or application of 
logic.

> LHC is already an old obsolete apparatus, ha ha ha.

It is not.


PointedEars
-- 
Q: What did the nuclear physicist post on the laboratory door
   when he went camping?  
A: 'Gone fission'.
(from: WolframAlpha)

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#539666

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2015-12-16 22:13 +0100
Message-ID<n4sk5r$dh5$1@node2.news.atman.pl>
In reply to#539663

Użytkownik "Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:8486258.UNWtVgUWtI@PointedEars.de...

|because now you have found something that contradicts it.  Science is the
|falsification or confirmation of ideas through experiment or application of
|logic.

No, it is not. Science is something, what you will surely never
understand, poor idiot. 

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#539669

FromJürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org>
Date2015-12-16 21:21 +0000
Message-ID<n4skll$71c$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#539666
Maciej Woźniak wrote:

> Użytkownik "Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:8486258.UNWtVgUWtI@PointedEars.de...
> 
> |because now you have found something that contradicts it.  Science is
> the |falsification or confirmation of ideas through experiment or
> application of |logic.
> 
> No, it is not. Science is something, what you will surely never
> understand, poor idiot.

Ahaha, good one Maciek, thanks.

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#539668

FromJürgen Großenbach <jurgengb@adenauer.org>
Date2015-12-16 21:17 +0000
Message-ID<n4skd9$71c$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#539663
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> *The very purpose* of science (from Latin «scientia» „knowledge“) is

Scientia is rather a verb, to sciente, which means *to know*

>> LHC is already an old obsolete apparatus, ha ha ha.
> 
> It is not.

Overdimensionated, overcostly, overpaid accumulation of complexity of 
totally nonsense.

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#539767

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 22:41 -0800
Message-ID<6f037254-0596-4d62-b6bc-74a7559a3065@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#539617
On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 8:08:58 PM UTC+2, benj wrote:
> On 12/16/2015 10:22 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> > On 12/16/2015 9:06 AM, Poutnik wrote:
> >> On 12/16/2015 02:46 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >>> On 12/16/2015 1:38 AM, benj wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> In a way it's just an imitation of Einstein who everyone imagines just
> >>>> cranked out a complex mathematical theory that nobody understands off
> >>>> the top of his genius head.
> >>>
> >>> Speak for yourself, Ben.
> >>> I do not believe that the theory of relativity is all that complex.
> >>> I do not believe that nobody understands it.
> >>> I do not believe it takes a genius to understand it.
> >>>
> >>> Now, it might be that YOU think nobody understands it. It might be that
> >>> YOU think it's complex. It might be that YOU imagine that Einstein just
> >>> cranked it out so that it would be above everyone's head. But that's
> >>> just YOU, and you don't speak for anyone else but you.
> >>>
> >>
> >> If anybody claims
> >> all what he does not understand is useless nonsense and word salad,
> >> it helps keeping him big in his eyes.
> >>
> >> If he admitted
> >> it might be true but out of his league,
> >> he would have also admit
> >> he is not as smart as he thought or claimed.
> >>
> >> Such idea is impossible to withstand. So as a Parthian withdrawal,
> >> there is recommended back-shooting of arrows of personal offences
> >> to distract people from his lack of knowledge.
> >>
> >
> > Right. Ben Jacoby is tired of people telling him he doesn't understand
> > some things. And so when someone else claims to understand something he
> > doesn't then Ben overreacts, saying "Oh, so you're claiming to be some
> > kind of GENIUS!" No. Understanding something that Ben doesn't understand
> > doesn't require genius.
> >
> > Ben is also fond of overgeneralizing, saying that if he doesn't
> > understand something, then NOBODY understands it either. And if he has a
> > belief, then he's prone to say that EVERYONE believes the same thing.
> > Which is nonsense.
> 
> Boinker has been in his Ivory tower so long he is totally unaware of the 
> media and public perception. In truth Einstein and relativity has been 
> so hyped by media for so long that the very IMAGE (including hairdoo) of 
> a science "genius" has been changed in the public mind!
> 
> Boinker really needs to get out more.
> 
> > -- 
>          ___           ___           ___            ___
  
>=============================
you can say it much simpler :

anonymous !! again anonymous ' Bodkin
ie PAUL DRAPER (P D )
is one of the greatest pigs and
shameless  thieves here 
======================
Y.Porat
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#539800

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-17 06:50 -0800
Message-ID<ba3bd92d-f09a-401c-83ba-fab579c50728@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#539617
Four angry/insane posts in a row. I think that constitutes a rant.

Good thing you're not mad

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#539759

From"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com>
Date2015-12-16 22:21 -0800
Message-ID<bc01ed2b-63a9-46b4-9ef1-28a4551af581@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#539589
On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 5:22:14 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 12/16/2015 9:06 AM, Poutnik wrote:
> > On 12/16/2015 02:46 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> >> On 12/16/2015 1:38 AM, benj wrote:
> >>>
> >>> In a way it's just an imitation of Einstein who everyone imagines just
> >>> cranked out a complex mathematical theory that nobody understands off
> >>> the top of his genius head.
> >>
> >> Speak for yourself, Ben.
> >> I do not believe that the theory of relativity is all that complex.
> >> I do not believe that nobody understands it.
> >> I do not believe it takes a genius to understand it.
> >>
> >> Now, it might be that YOU think nobody understands it. It might be that
> >> YOU think it's complex. It might be that YOU imagine that Einstein just
> >> cranked it out so that it would be above everyone's head. But that's
> >> just YOU, and you don't speak for anyone else but you.
> >>
> >
> > If anybody claims
> > all what he does not understand is useless nonsense and word salad,
> > it helps keeping him big in his eyes.
> >
> > If he admitted
> > it might be true but out of his league,
> > he would have also admit
> > he is not as smart as he thought or claimed.
> >
> > Such idea is impossible to withstand. So as a Parthian withdrawal,
> > there is recommended back-shooting of arrows of personal offences
> > to distract people from his lack of knowledge.
> >
> 
> Right. Ben Jacoby is tired of people telling him he doesn't understand 
> some things. And so when someone else claims to understand something he 
> doesn't then Ben overreacts, saying "Oh, so you're claiming to be some 
> kind of GENIUS!" No. Understanding something that Ben doesn't understand 
> doesn't require genius.
> 
> Ben is also fond of overgeneralizing, saying that if he doesn't 
> understand something, then NOBODY understands it either. And if he has a 
> belief, then he's prone to say that EVERYONE believes the same thing. 
> Which is nonsense.
> 
> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
=====================
and we are tired of nasty pigs 
who pose that they understand every think
for  just a little instance:

if spce curves



TO WHICH DIRECTION DOES IT CURVE :

A
to left side
b
to right side
c to up 
d
to down side 
and if to one of them 
WHY ????!!

TIA
Y.Porat
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