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How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed

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  How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 09:39 -0700
    How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 09:56 -0700
      Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-24 23:52 -0400
        Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 11:49 -0700
          Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 14:37 -0500
            Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-25 21:14 -0500
    Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-24 12:17 -0500
    Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 14:14 -0500
    Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-04-24 13:41 -0700
      Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 16:19 -0700
        Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 16:45 -0700
        Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 11:45 -0700
          Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 14:25 -0500
            Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-25 19:39 +0000
            Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-04-25 17:08 -0700
              Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 19:16 -0500
                Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-26 00:41 +0000
                Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-04-25 23:05 -0400
                  Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-26 03:11 -0400
                    Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-26 17:29 -0500
                  Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-04-26 13:11 -0700
                    Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 19:03 -0500
            Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-25 21:59 -0400
    Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-27 11:33 +1000
      Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-04-26 22:58 -0400
        Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-27 13:14 +1000
          Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-04-26 23:32 -0400
            Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-27 13:49 +1000
              Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-04-26 23:53 -0400
                Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-04-27 00:06 -0400
              Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-27 01:25 -0400
                Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-04-27 15:41 +1000
                  Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-04-27 07:06 -0400
                    Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-04-27 05:31 -0700
                      Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-04-27 09:21 -0400
                        Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-04-27 11:06 -0700
                  Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-27 11:22 -0400
                    Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-27 16:44 +0000
                  Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 11:35 -0700
                    Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-27 18:44 -0400
                      Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-04-27 22:16 -0400
                        Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-27 23:09 -0400
        Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-26 23:34 -0400
    Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 11:44 -0700
      Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 15:45 -0500
        Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-27 22:30 -0500
          Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-28 00:38 -0400
      Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-27 18:43 -0400
    Re: How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed gyansorova@gmail.com - 2016-04-27 11:58 -0700

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#572905 — How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-24 09:39 -0700
SubjectHow Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed
Message-ID<c94d8a5b-330e-405c-bec7-ccdcb6c984e5@googlegroups.com>
It even pulls in more electrons when doing moire work automatically.WOW  I can see why the thickness of a wire obeys the inverse square law.  I love electric motors,and I'm big on electron flow. Trebert

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#572908

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-24 09:56 -0700
Message-ID<388a078a-65ef-468f-ba5a-e6d2f620cc5b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#572905
How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed?
--------------

And they say there are no stupid questions. How's that again?

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#573011

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-24 23:52 -0400
Message-ID<571d947c$0$28908$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#572908
On 04/24/2016 12:56 PM, HVAC wrote:
> How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed?
> --------------
>
> And they say there are no stupid questions. How's that again?
>

What in hell? Did Herb ask this? (checks back in posts) Yep. He did.

Tell Treeb that the motor doesn't know but just tells the demon in the 
wire to "gimme all you got!".

I thought treeb knew how everything works?

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#573144

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-25 11:49 -0700
Message-ID<5ad285d1-76ac-44ac-a458-9fc1679f852a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#573011
On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 8:52:30 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> On 04/24/2016 12:56 PM, HVAC wrote:
> > How Does an Electric Motor Know How Much Electricity Is Needed?
> > --------------
> >
> > And they say there are no stupid questions. How's that again?
> >
> 
> What in hell? Did Herb ask this? (checks back in posts) Yep. He did.
> 
> Tell Treeb that the motor doesn't know but just tells the demon in the 
> wire to "gimme all you got!".
> 
> I thought treeb knew how everything works?

benj Keep in mind the wire has to obey the inverse square law. Think  TreBert

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#573162

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-25 14:37 -0500
Message-ID<s-KdnclIeeN27IPKnZ2dnUU7-cudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#573144
On 4/25/16 1:49 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> Keep in mind the wire has to obey the inverse square law.




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#573295

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-04-25 21:14 -0500
Message-ID<nfmitf$mun$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#573162
On 4/25/2016 2:37 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 4/25/16 1:49 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> Keep in mind the wire has to obey the inverse square law.
>
>
>
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Think,

it does obey the inverse square law,

as the diameter of the wire goes up, the resistance of the wire 
diminishes by the square

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#572912

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-04-24 12:17 -0500
Message-ID<nfiv2k$11ml$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#572905
On 4/24/2016 11:39 AM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> It even pulls in more electrons when doing moire work
> automatically.WOW  I can see why the thickness of a wire obeys the
> inverse square law.  I love electric motors,and I'm big on electron
> flow. Trebert
>

and if it does less work, it does not use as many electrons. at the same
voltage

power = I * V

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#572924

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-24 14:14 -0500
Message-ID<OZadnRcDl-m6hoDKnZ2dnUU7-emdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#572905
On 4/24/16 11:39 AM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> It even pulls in more electrons when doing moire work automatically.WOW


   Smart motors obeying Maxwell's laws -- goes back to the time
   of Faraday.


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#572938

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-04-24 13:41 -0700
Message-ID<f7696b8c-4e15-4ba6-869a-c387a1643c85@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#572905
On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 9:39:43 AM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> It even pulls in more electrons when doing moire work automatically.WOW  I can see why the thickness of a wire obeys the inverse square law.  I love electric motors,and I'm big on electron flow. Trebert


Have you also noticed that hand turned generators (think crank phones) are harder to turn when you put a load on them?

Double-A

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#572970

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-24 16:19 -0700
Message-ID<c2f3217c-18e0-42f9-b40c-7f4606984bb6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#572938
On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 1:42:01 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 9:39:43 AM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > It even pulls in more electrons when doing moire work automatically.WOW  I can see why the thickness of a wire obeys the inverse square law.  I love electric motors,and I'm big on electron flow. Trebert
> 
> 
> Have you also noticed that hand turned generators (think crank phones) are harder to turn when you put a load on them?
> 
> Double-A

Put my van in cruise control and it gets more gas to maintain its speed going up hills.Still that is done by computer.Electric motor all on its own.I like that  Trebert

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#572974

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-24 16:45 -0700
Message-ID<98a6db5f-7c24-47ac-afe1-05e370c08e11@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#572970
reber g=emc^2
- show quoted text -
Put my van in cruise control and it gets more gas to maintain its speed going up hills.Still that is done by computer.Electric motor all on its own.I like that  Trebert 
---------------

The tumult and the shouting dies
The Captains and the Kings depart 
Still stands thine ancient sacrifice
A humble and a contrite heart


Right right?

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#573142

From"reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-25 11:45 -0700
Message-ID<e5269ea6-2aab-4019-8fe5-e36a300d0f29@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#572970
On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 4:19:37 PM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 1:42:01 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 9:39:43 AM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > > It even pulls in more electrons when doing moire work automatically.WOW  I can see why the thickness of a wire obeys the inverse square law.  I love electric motors,and I'm big on electron flow. Trebert
> > 
> > 
> > Have you also noticed that hand turned generators (think crank phones) are harder to turn when you put a load on them?
> > 
> > Double-A
> 
> Put my van in cruise control and it gets more gas to maintain its speed going up hills.Still that is done by computer.Electric motor all on its own.I like that  Trebert

Electric motor only uses enough electricity as needed.Electricity is by far our greatest energy.So clean.So quite So easy to transfer.To bad it can't be stored.TreBert

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#573155

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-25 14:25 -0500
Message-ID<s-Kdnc9IeeOx8oPKnZ2dnUU7-cudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#573142
On 4/25/16 1:45 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> Electricity is by far our greatest energy.So clean.So quite


   You need to poke your head into the chimney of the coal power plant
   that generates the "clean", "quiet" energy, reber.  :-o


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#573165

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-25 19:39 +0000
Message-ID<rb82vc-kjb.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#573155
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/25/16 1:45 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>> Electricity is by far our greatest energy.So clean.So quite
> 
> 
>   You need to poke your head into the chimney of the coal power plant
>   that generates the "clean", "quiet" energy, reber.  :-o
 
Or listen to the roar of windmills, or smell the stink of geothermal. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#573265

FromDouble-A <double-a3@hush.com>
Date2016-04-25 17:08 -0700
Message-ID<379e80d0-8fdb-42c9-b017-75cbf550defa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#573155
On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 4/25/16 1:45 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> > Electricity is by far our greatest energy.So clean.So quite
> 
> 
>    You need to poke your head into the chimney of the coal power plant
>    that generates the "clean", "quiet" energy, reber.  :-o
> 
> 

Enough of this "war on coal"!  It heated my family home back in the day, and Bert has admitted it heated his too!

Double-A

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#573269

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-25 19:16 -0500
Message-ID<TZqdnb2Q4NzALoPKnZ2dnUU7-XsAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#573265
On 4/25/16 7:08 PM, Double-A wrote:
> On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 4/25/16 1:45 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>> Electricity is by far our greatest energy.So clean.So quite
>>
>>
>>     You need to poke your head into the chimney of the coal power plant
>>     that generates the "clean", "quiet" energy, reber.  :-o
>>
>>
>
> Enough of this "war on coal"!  It heated my family home back in the day, and Bert has admitted it heated his too!
>
> Double-A
>

   Coal (the burning of what's left in the ground) has the ability
   to assure the extinction of the human race.

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#573277

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-04-26 00:41 +0000
Message-ID<72q2vc-mbd.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#573269
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/25/16 7:08 PM, Double-A wrote:
>> On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> On 4/25/16 1:45 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>>> Electricity is by far our greatest energy.So clean.So quite
>>>
>>>
>>>     You need to poke your head into the chimney of the coal power plant
>>>     that generates the "clean", "quiet" energy, reber.  :-o
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Enough of this "war on coal"!  It heated my family home back in the day, and Bert has admitted it heated his too!
>>
>> Double-A
>>
> 
>   Coal (the burning of what's left in the ground) has the ability
>   to assure the extinction of the human race.

Sure it does, cut and paste, copyright violating, spammer, according
to all the failed climate models.

 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#573302

FromWally W. <ww84wa@aim.com>
Date2016-04-25 23:05 -0400
Message-ID<jdmthbprf6a4af5qtq6uvqd7g4qbuv2ls6@4ax.com>
In reply to#573269
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 19:16:29 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

>On 4/25/16 7:08 PM, Double-A wrote:
>> On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>> On 4/25/16 1:45 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>>> Electricity is by far our greatest energy.So clean.So quite
>>>
>>>
>>>     You need to poke your head into the chimney of the coal power plant
>>>     that generates the "clean", "quiet" energy, reber.  :-o
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Enough of this "war on coal"!  It heated my family home back in the day, and Bert has admitted it heated his too!
>>
>> Double-A
>>
>
>   Coal (the burning of what's left in the ground) has the ability
>   to assure the extinction of the human race.

Absolutely ludricrous.

Where is there any credible study that asserts the entire planet will
become uninhabitable for humans if we spew more CO2?

You are claiming "climate change" will change *all* climates so
drastically that humans will go extinct.

What rational justification for that claim can you possibly have?

>sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>community, and physics-related social issues.

Please discuss.

FYI:

:>Newsgroups: comp.programming
:>Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 14:44:02 +0100
:>Message-ID: <nf2o4o$gcv$2@dont-email.me>

:> Usenet is not a write-only medium.

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#573350

Frombenj <nobodyxx@gmail>
Date2016-04-26 03:11 -0400
Message-ID<571f1497$0$57923$c3e8da3$c8b7d2e6@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#573302
On 04/25/2016 11:05 PM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 19:16:29 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>> On 4/25/16 7:08 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>> On 4/25/16 1:45 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>>>>> Electricity is by far our greatest energy.So clean.So quite
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      You need to poke your head into the chimney of the coal power plant
>>>>      that generates the "clean", "quiet" energy, reber.  :-o
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Enough of this "war on coal"!  It heated my family home back in the day, and Bert has admitted it heated his too!
>>>
>>> Double-A
>>>
>>
>>    Coal (the burning of what's left in the ground) has the ability
>>    to assure the extinction of the human race.
>
> Absolutely ludricrous.
>
> Where is there any credible study that asserts the entire planet will
> become uninhabitable for humans if we spew more CO2?
>
> You are claiming "climate change" will change *all* climates so
> drastically that humans will go extinct.
>
> What rational justification for that claim can you possibly have?
>
>> sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
>> to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
>> community, and physics-related social issues.
>
> Please discuss.
>
> FYI:
>
> :>Newsgroups: comp.programming
> :>Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 14:44:02 +0100
> :>Message-ID: <nf2o4o$gcv$2@dont-email.me>
>
> :> Usenet is not a write-only medium.
>

Sammy uses the HVAC science method: If he can IMAGINE it then you must 
believe that everything he says is TRUE.

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#573552

FromSergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2016-04-26 17:29 -0500
Message-ID<nfoq4e$dc6$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#573350
On 4/26/2016 2:11 AM, benj wrote:
> On 04/25/2016 11:05 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 19:16:29 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

>>
>> FYI:
>>
>> :>Newsgroups: comp.programming
>> :>Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 14:44:02 +0100
>> :>Message-ID: <nf2o4o$gcv$2@dont-email.me>
>>
>> :> Usenet is not a write-only medium.
>>
>
> Sammy uses the HVAC science method: If he can IMAGINE it then you must
> believe that everything he says is TRUE.
>

McFly does that too!

really simplifies everything

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