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Convection Theory is Ephemeral and Vague

Started byJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
First post2016-03-04 14:25 -0800
Last post2016-03-04 22:37 -0800
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  Convection Theory is Ephemeral and Vague James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:25 -0800
    Re: Convection Theory is Ephemeral and Vague Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 16:44 -0600
    Re: Convection Theory is Ephemeral and Vague jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-04 22:44 +0000
      Re: Convection Theory is Ephemeral and Vague James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 18:06 -0800
        Re: Convection Theory is Ephemeral and Vague jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-05 03:33 +0000
          Re: Convection Theory is Ephemeral and Vague James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 20:07 -0800
            Re: Convection Theory is Ephemeral and Vague jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-03-05 06:56 +0000
    Convection Theory is Ephemeral and Vague HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 22:37 -0800

#559373 — Convection Theory is Ephemeral and Vague

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-04 14:25 -0800
SubjectConvection Theory is Ephemeral and Vague
Message-ID<17eb79ef-b255-45aa-8e8f-5bf54720412f@googlegroups.com>
It's funny, but when I first set out to tell the world of my new theory I expected people to be thankful that I was reviving an intellectually dead subject. Convection theory was so ephemeral and vague that I knew nobody would or could defend it, as has been the case. However, I never expected the depth of emotions that people have for what is such a non-starter of a theory. I now realize that this is just normal for humans. When a scientific theory is devoid of details and facts people's minds just naturally fill-in those details with their imagination, like children do with fairy tales. And they are more emotionally attached to these created details than they would be if the details were conveyed to them by somebody or if they had read them in a book.
Unlike any of my fellow students, when I took meteorology classes I was already well educated in physics, chemistry, math and geology. So the brain-washing aspects of meteorological indoctrination didn't have the effect on me that it had on my classmates and that it, apparently, has had on all other meteorologists. Even then I was skeptical. I had gone out of my way to take the class because I was deeply curious about severe weather. I remember sitting there as the professor explained that convection was what powered all storms. "That couldn't be right," I said to myself, "how could such a benign process as convection underlie the power and majesty of thunderstorms, tornadoes and hurricanes? There has got to be something more to it than just that."

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#559388

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-04 16:44 -0600
Message-ID<m5-dnbvF584kkkfLnZ2dnUU7-Q8AAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#559373
On 3/4/16 4:25 PM, James McGinn wrote:
> It's funny, but when I first set out to tell the world of my new theory I expected people to be thankful that I was reviving an intellectually dead subject.


   The trouble was/is, you got the basic physics wrong.


   Evaporation from soil, oceans, plants and lakes results in a
   continuous supply of Water Vapor (gaseous H2O) in the earth's
   atmosphere.

   Water vapour (H2O) like Oxygen (O2) like Nitrogen (N2) is an invisible
   gas, so there is nothing to see.

 > Water vapour (H2O molecules)

 > Water vapor, water vapour or aqueous vapor, is the *gaseous phase* of
 > water. It is one state of water within the hydrosphere. Water vapor
 > can be produced from the *evaporation or boiling of liquid water* or
 > from the *sublimation of ice* . Unlike other forms of water, water
 > vapor is invisible. Under typical atmospheric conditions, water vapor
 > is continuously generated by evaporation and removed by condensation.
 > It is *lighter than air* and *triggers convection currents* that can
 > lead to clouds.



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#559395

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-03-04 22:44 +0000
Message-ID<6ofpqc-04d.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#559373
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's funny, but when I first set out to tell the world of my new theory
> I expected people to be thankful

And instead you find yourself being laughed at as a delusional kook.

How disappointing for you.

> Unlike any of my fellow students, when I took meteorology classes I
> was already well educated in physics, chemistry, math and geology.

Meteorology IS selected subjects from physics, chemistry, math and geology
and complely consistant with physics, chemistry, math and geology.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#559458

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-04 18:06 -0800
Message-ID<e2345498-2894-45c1-9678-1645e58a8b63@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#559395
On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 2:46:17 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's funny, but when I first set out to tell the world of my new theory
> > I expected people to be thankful
> 
> And instead you find yourself being laughed at as a delusional kook.
> 
> How disappointing for you.
> 
> > Unlike any of my fellow students, when I took meteorology classes I
> > was already well educated in physics, chemistry, math and geology.
> 
> Meteorology IS selected subjects from physics, chemistry, math and geology
> and complely consistant with physics, chemistry, math and geology.

Prove it.

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#559488

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-03-05 03:33 +0000
Message-ID<il0qqc-tqe.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#559458
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 2:46:17 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > It's funny, but when I first set out to tell the world of my new theory
>> > I expected people to be thankful
>> 
>> And instead you find yourself being laughed at as a delusional kook.
>> 
>> How disappointing for you.
>> 
>> > Unlike any of my fellow students, when I took meteorology classes I
>> > was already well educated in physics, chemistry, math and geology.
>> 
>> Meteorology IS selected subjects from physics, chemistry, math and geology
>> and complely consistant with physics, chemistry, math and geology.
> 
> Prove it.

If you had actually taken meteorology classes as you claim, you would
know this as it is the very definition of meteorology.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#559492

FromJames McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-04 20:07 -0800
Message-ID<6ebc907e-c857-4b17-9cc1-319d04da348c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#559488
On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 8:01:06 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 2:46:17 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > It's funny, but when I first set out to tell the world of my new theory
> >> > I expected people to be thankful
> >> 
> >> And instead you find yourself being laughed at as a delusional kook.
> >> 
> >> How disappointing for you.
> >> 
> >> > Unlike any of my fellow students, when I took meteorology classes I
> >> > was already well educated in physics, chemistry, math and geology.
> >> 
> >> Meteorology IS selected subjects from physics, chemistry, math and geology
> >> and complely consistant with physics, chemistry, math and geology.
> > 
> > Prove it.
> 
> If you had actually taken meteorology classes as you claim, you would
> know this as it is the very definition of meteorology.

You are clueless.

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#559543

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-03-05 06:56 +0000
Message-ID<iicqqc-uuf.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#559492
James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 8:01:06 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 2:46:17 PM UTC-8, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >> James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > It's funny, but when I first set out to tell the world of my new theory
>> >> > I expected people to be thankful
>> >> 
>> >> And instead you find yourself being laughed at as a delusional kook.
>> >> 
>> >> How disappointing for you.
>> >> 
>> >> > Unlike any of my fellow students, when I took meteorology classes I
>> >> > was already well educated in physics, chemistry, math and geology.
>> >> 
>> >> Meteorology IS selected subjects from physics, chemistry, math and geology
>> >> and complely consistant with physics, chemistry, math and geology.
>> > 
>> > Prove it.
>> 
>> If you had actually taken meteorology classes as you claim, you would
>> know this as it is the very definition of meteorology.
> 
> You are clueless.

QED; never taken a meteorology class.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#559514

FromHVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-04 22:37 -0800
Message-ID<a62a9469-9747-44a9-87ad-c0d2373fcb34@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#559373
McFly says
It's funny, but when I first set out to tell the world of my new theory I expected people 
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Lightning kills more people each year than any other weather related cause

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